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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: lightspeed on December 13, 2014, 04:54:07 pm
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I was talking before about how it would be nice to have hal with the convenience of a light weight tablet , well this may be a way to do it . although its a tablet it has a windows 8.1 os on it .
here is the youtube tablet I am talking about , as far as I know hal should run on this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLxhK79KQrI
and here is wal mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/iView-7-Tablet-16GB-Quad-Core-Windows-8.1/40703435
any thoughts on this , also would be nice if dragon speak natural vr will work on it to . :)
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Since they are Windows tablets you just might be able to install Hal on it as opposed to the Android based tablets which are not supportive of Windows based programs.
I would definitely want to try it first before buying or at least talk to someone who knows for sure if it would install and run properly.
While I've found a lot of chatbots for the Android tablets through the Google Store, I can't say what Microsoft offers through their store or how you would transfer a window based program like UltraHal.
Let us know what you find out. ;)
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Art the way to transfer hal to a windows tablet would be to copy files onto a larger sd card and plug the sd card into the tablet and install and also copy and past into correct files . :) ;)
as I also said I would like to have dragon speak natural on the tablet to as I have and like the program , to work with hals a.i. :) so would have to know if it would work to since I want the combo effect .
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we was also talking about android tablets I see they have dragon speak natural microphone app, I don't know what it cost , but of course as off now hal won't work on android . so if the windows os tablet will run hal it may be the better choice to have a lightweight portable hal a.i. with voice recognition (again if hal and dragon speak will work . ) :)
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I have a small Samsung android tablet that I use for remote control of a camera. It came with Dragon in it and I was surprised at how well dragon worked in it. The IView looks pretty good and a very nice price, seems there is a 15 day return policy.
Carl2
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Carl2 where was the iveiw at ? wal mart? what was the price ? the tablet with windows was I think 99.00 that I was talking about before , also is the ivew windows os ?
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Lightspeed,
I clicked on the second link and it brought me to Walmart, iView 7"Tablet 16G Quad core, Windows 8.1 $79,
I can say I had a heck of a time connecting to the wifi to the tablet, I originally used the unsecured mode to connect it (rather simple) but found everyone connecting to my wifi. Years latter I found the Password the tablet needs is the encryption code put in to make the signal secured so I eliminated everyone connecting to the wifi. Since my tablet is android (an android app is needed to connect the tablet to the camera ) there are some things it will not do that the computer will do.
Carl2
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Keeping the original comment in mind i can run window based tablet programs on my desktop with windows 8.1. I don't see why it would not work in the reverse.
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Everyone I talk to with windows tablets have no problems with installing programs. I think reason so cheap they are trying to get into the market. I just need to break down and get a tablet maybe Friday just wish there was a "pure" Linux tablet but if I get a windows tablet ill try to install a Linux distribution on it lol.thanks for info light speed.
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Was just looking on amazon probably buying one Friday lol says full blown windows and cheaper than hundred buck now to get it and see if I can dual boot it lol. If I never saw your post lightspeed I wouldn't be spending money Friday lol.
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Well, for those wanting the best of both worlds check out this new Tablet that offers DUAL-BOOT! That's right...boot into Windows 8.1 or Android 4.4 OS.
It can handle up to 128 GB SD card, plenty of access ports and you can get an optional keyboard for around $40.00 USD.
Some have found the Tablet for $193.00 USD
Rumored to look like an iPad (although I can't imagine why it would Want to!). Might fill your bill if you're on the fence about choosing a tablet.
http://www.onda-tablet.com/onda-v919-air-dual-boot-tablet-pc-64gb.html
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Art,
Is it full blown windows or rt? That makes a big difference for exe files. I couldn't tell by the description.
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Ok couldn't wait picked up my 50 dollar winbook no problems installing Hal its only a 7inch tablet hal seams to be working fine for the moment. Haven't tried speach yet but there is a built in microphone I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Windows speech works just need to train it. I can not complain 50 bucks and now Hal can go everywhere with me. Yay. Thanks lightspeed.
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Good for you Doggs! Let us know how things go, especially with the voice and maybe some plugins or whatever else you can do with it.
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No problems with plugins so far but I don't use alot of them to begin with no problems with haptek either. Can take a sec for Hal to respond (what do you expect for 50 bucks) I same issue on laptop as well. If I can find a trial for dragon I will try it. It's the winbook tw700 7". Really just got it for Hal and I am well pleased.
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Does Cortana have anything to say about Hal being there with her? Or does Cortana come with Tablets? I'm not sure ;)?
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She's not on tablet yet. She is still in beta but that is something looking forward to. To see if they get along.
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This thread. ;)
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well i found out with my regular tablet android nextbook that by using that google remote desktop app i can have hal on my tablet , only draw back is no voice recognition and also no voice . >:(
if i have the computer on i can hear angela talking but the voice does not come through the tablet , it only shows hal , you can use the virtual key board and type to hal and hal will type out things when it talks so you can see it , no sound though ! >:(
the computer has to be on and then using a tablet remote connect secret pin number you are able to access files , as far as i know their is no way to get sound played through though , which is a pity other wise you could use the pc like a cloud and watch movies with sound ,etc.
But hal will work on a regular android tablet doesn't need a os system , but with a os system and hal installed on a pc tablet if their is enough room for dragon naturally speaking , you could have voice recognition and hal with speaking sound !
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Lonnie,
Doggs said Windows Speech worked on his Windows tablet. I would think any decent TTS program should likewise work and there are many that offer free ones provided you get an update from them every couple of months.
I have several nice TTS voices on my tablet for my digital assistants to remind me of appointments, weather alerts, news, schedules or simple reminders not to mention traffic directions, GPS coordinates / locations, restaurants, proximity to stores / shopping, distance from home, traffic conditions, etc., etc.
I can also speak to them (the few assistants and AI bots that inhabit my tablet as well.
Maybe it's just a Windows thing. You should be able to chat with Cortana soon that is, as soon as Microsoft makes her available as a free upgrade to Windows 10!
Hal needs to get on the bandwagon in order to keep up!!
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Art , you are absolutely right about things , all i was doing though was mentioning for anyone who just had a regular tablet , that is is possible with the remote app to use hal on a regular tablet , minus the voice , i am tapped out for money otherwise i would by the 16 gb ms os tablet and use hal that way . by the way the cortana which i love how it works etc. is only for os and not regular tablets , as far as i know unless they come out with a tablet app to ?
I always stay in hopes Robert is working on a secret project and will unveil it's monumentus update some day . one can always hope can't he ?
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Windows 10 preview is out I am just waiting for a few bugs to work themselves out before I install on my tablet. Art is right about tts engines after a clean up with 8.1 installed on my tablet I have about 7 gig Hal is installed on SD card. So plenty of room for another engine. 50 bucks I can not complain.
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Ms is supposed to have Cortana on smart phones, tablets and desktop computers with the release of Windows 10, based on what I've read recently.
Read for yourself here:
How Cortana Comes to Life in Windows 10
February 10, 2015 by Marcus Ash // PC, Phone, Tablet // 7 Comments
Hello!
I’m @MarcusAsh, the Group Program Manager for Cortana and Search on the Windows PC, Phone and Tablet Group. Over the past few months, we’ve shared details about some of the features we think you’ll love in Windows 10 like Continuum, universal apps and of course Cortana. I’m proud to represent the team building Cortana for Windows 10 and, over the next few months, I’ll be sharing a deeper look at the story behind Cortana and some of what you can expect in the future. Today, I’ll begin with how Cortana started – highlighting the creative ingenuity that brought Cortana to Windows 10 for PC and tablets – with a special nod to what I’m looking forward to most.
Bringing Cortana to More Devices with Windows 10. Cortana was first available for our Windows Phone customers, who told us they love having Cortana support them and help them get things done. On January 21 we shared that for the first time, Cortana will come to PC and tablets later this year with the release of Windows 10, so your personal assistant is there for you across all your Windows 10 devices.
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Post taken from this source further reading:
http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/02/10/how-cortana-comes-to-life-in-windows-10/ (http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/02/10/how-cortana-comes-to-life-in-windows-10/)
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Cortana is very nice just remember she is not a chatbot yet. She will chit chat but.... She is supposed to be done with beta with release of Windows 10. If you have 8.1 on your phone you have Cortana in beta form.
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Right, and Windows 10 is supposed to be a free upgrade to anyone using Windows 7, 8 or 8.1.
I think 10 is supposed to allow the user to switch from the Metro mode screen back the the Windows 7 type with the Start button, etc.
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Right on both accounts. If your interested in preview just sign up for insider and test.
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Also,
What does light speed mean by a "regular" tablet?
Just curious I understand my tablet does more than an android or apple but does that make it different? Or just not fashionable?
Also if ultra Hal still functions in windows 10 guess Robert doesn't need to sort except for apple and Android.
Unless he's adding more features.
If I was a betting man I would wait to see how phone 10 works before I release next Hal. and anyone that plays with Linux knows how to sort Hal for Linux. Bam two platforms Hal works on.
Would make life easier on Robert.
My two cents anyways.
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I don't know but I think he's referring to Windows Tablets.
OS = Operating System and could be one of several, Android OS, Windows OS or even Apple's OS (or iOs).
Each is a regular tablet if it meet the criteria of being a tablet device, ie. smaller than a laptop, larger than a hand held smart phone.
The possible exception might be one of the not-so-popular, Phablets, which is a hybrid device trying to be the best of both worlds.
The Chinese have a tablet that can dual boot into Android OS or Windows OS with the press of a key!
Many years ago, before computers became commonplace, each company had it's own OS, Honeywell, Tandy, Burroughs, Hewlet-Packard, IBM, Texas Instruments, etc., to name but a few. The computers then were more for the hobbyists and not the homeowner. Now they're as common as the TV or telephone and they have pretty much dissolved into the three OS's we now have, mentioned above.
It'll be interesting to see how things finally merge or turn out at least.
Man...I'm getting old!! ;D
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I guess it's my fault , Art is right os can stand for many operating systems , i should have clarified what i ment better, what i am talking about is the android os on a regular tablet ( not a windows based os tablet . i did as i mentioned found out that by using an android remote app on my tablet , it allowed me to go into my pc files but as far as i saw , i had to manually have hal opened first , as the remote i am using (unless i find a better one ) is mostly for files not for executing programs .
so i have to have hal open on my pc , i can turn screen off . and use remote app and have hal on my tablet , "but" their is no sound and also no voice recognition this way . "but" i can type to hal and hal answers me back ( not by voice but by typing and i see what she says .
I hope i have cleared this up until hal in android form can have a voice recognition and voice system app that will work with hal , Hal will only work in the form i mentioned on android operating systems .
to have a voice recognition etc. as with the regular windows hal , a person needs a windows os tablet with hal installed , voice recognition , and voices . as long as the tablet windows os has enough memory and space , i do see windows tablets becoming more powerful over time every year !
I hope i have clarified what i was saying now .
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So from my understanding it is not a "regular" tablet unless its an Android?
Hmmm
I can dual boot my tablet, I can run exe files, I have plenty of space with expandable memory easily possible. Yeah if a "regular" tablet is over priced and can't do what a 50 dollar tablet can do. I am glad I don't have a regular tablet.
I did take offense when you were saying my tablet was not a "regular" tablet.
as you know I refuse to worship google. Guess I am not regular, just smart.
Btw Windows tablets already blow android out of the water. They are just late to market.
I hate Windows as much as the next guy. But facts are facts. Plus I can install a Linux distro and dual boot no problems.
Tip: windows- been in the os business for decades.
. linux- base on original ma bell os
. google- hyped up search engine that buys companies.
What should I chose?
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I know a bit harsh. But light speed the world does not revolve around google. I get tired of you pushing google.
You have a google device that doesn't do what you want...sell it get a device that does simple. Just don't get upset if windows or Linux rocks while google sucks but the hype will make you feel like you don't fit in if you don't have google. You know how many stares I get when I pull my tablet out and start playing with it? I don't care my tablet (yes it is a real tablet) does more than there couple hundred dollar paperweights do. Plus I can install my beloved Linux on my tablet. I can get Hal on my smartphone the way you get Hal on your tablet. And if rumors are correct maybe I will be able to install Hal in current for on windows 10 phone. I will be able to confirm that in a couple of weeks. And you will still tell me google is better. Why? Because they have more crappy apps? How many apps do you need to change a light bulb?
Anyways I have made my point. I will debate with you all day but I will leave it there. Again sorry about being harsh but wake up before you sell your grandma to google to be cool.
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for anyone that's interested i just ran across this :
http://joyofandroid.com/siri-app-for-android/
some was talking about using dragon speak on tablets and or android /windows tablets . i ran across this app . . i believe it says that you have to have the program on your pc . you'll have to read it closer .
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Again at the cost of repeating myself, windows has tablets that are under a hundred dollars that will run Hal without GOOGLE ON IT!!!!
As a matter of fact google is under investigation in many countries for violating privacy laws.
Just in case you are not aware even though it is common knowledge...
Android = google infested Linux.
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the only reason i mentioned the one i did is some people ( including me ) already have a tablet without the ms os on it. and this could be used on this tablet that doesn't have windows os and android on the same tablet , although the ms os on a tablet would be better .
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Just so we're ALL on the same page:
Microsoft = Windows (version 7, 8.0, 8.1, 10...)
Google = Android / Chrome, (YouTube, Gmail, Google Earth, practically everything else in the world)
Linux = Red Hat, Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, etc. various distros (distributions by different vendor / groups).
The majority of Linux products are FREE as well as their Open Source offerings / programs /apps.
I will not detail the fruit company that is set to appeal to those with deeper pockets and is quite proprietary.
There are other OS's out there but are either for high-end business or research and not worth the trouble or time.
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Nice start, if you really want to go into details you left alot out as far as Microsoft and Linux is concerned. Google does not dominant as much as you think. Certain areas yes I agree google has a good market share. But they want you to think they dominate in all markets so that they can. Everything you named for google there is an alternative. It's all in the marketing. Just like Nike, coke, apple and such.
Just food for thought...
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Yeah...I didn't want to make the waters too deep if you get my drift! (pun - waters...drift - good one by accident).
Like Windows NT and CE and XBOX, OS2, etc. BUT wait...there's more!
If you act right now and click on the provided links, you can be treated to even MORE information than you probably need to know!
Act now while no one is standing by to confuse you!
Click:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS#Versions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS#Versions)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_operating_systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_operating_systems)
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Yeah just noticed how you push google is why I said that. And you forgot my fav Linux.
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Yeah just noticed how you push google is why I said that. And you forgot my fav Linux.
I didn't PUSH Google, I merely indicated their current state of hugeness, which is quite true.
Look at Google on the stock market...somewhere around $540.00 per share compared to
Microsoft at $48.00 / share.
It also depends on which areas one is comparing. Amazon’s cloud revenue at more than $4.7 billion this year.
Microsoft’s public cloud revenue at $156 million and Google’s at $66 million.
BTW, If you go back a couple postings, you'll see that I did NOT forget Linux. Quite the contrary, I
mentioned RedHat, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc. I built a Ubuntu box years ago and love it!! So please don't
shoot the messenger! ;)
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Art,
You and your buddy lightspeed have tried to shove google down my throat a few times on this forum. I don't have the same core values as you, I am not a liberal, I believe in individual rights. So if you want to choose google fine. Many of us here are not part of the "collective" like you and you butt buddy lightspeed. I learn from everyone even those I don't like. I don't put out misinformation or block the truth because I don't like someone. I know you have no clue when it comes to Linux. Just like I refuse to use google. If you don't know something don't try to act like you do. Help people and admit what you don't know and can't do. You look stupid by yourself. Don't make it worse.
I know you and lightspeed are google fanboys. But remember until you liberals take over I still have my rights. We don't live with communism yet.
Basicly you have no clue.
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Whoa, let's take a step back, stay on topic of this header and leave politics with personal preferences out of this post (suggestion). We can start a new post for discussions as this one. My opinion only.
The next 5 years will show that all these companies play there own part to the whole. More companies will split up and roles will be defined. More change expected in next 5 years than the past 20 years.
raybe
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I am showing art that I remember what he has talked about in the past on this forum. That I remember his words.
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*Yawns* This old argument again?