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Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on May 26, 2007, 12:19:35 pm
Hi I was wondering if there was any way of setting the mic and the hal program to always be on at pc start up as I want to only use  the mic as an input , I need the mic to be on as default when the program starts as the pc will be inside a box wih no mouse connected

any help would greatly be appreciated

thanks in advance
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Bill DeWitt on May 26, 2007, 12:34:49 pm
Unless someone knows something I don't, I don't think you can just using the program. But later I can try to write a script for you that will start the program, and turn on the mike. I think it should work...
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on May 27, 2007, 02:55:48 am
thanks that would be fantastic
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 27, 2007, 04:42:21 am
quote:
But later I can try to write a script for you that will start the program, and turn on the mike. I think it should work...


I would be very interested to see your plugin, Bill, if you can get it to work.

Roy.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Art on May 27, 2007, 07:37:34 am
I recall a problem that some users were having with Hal's mic constantly being on. The problem was that the Hal program was "hearing" its own speech and was causing unwanted text/errors.

Robert Medeksza addressed this via a plugin (I believe).

My advice to you would be to do a Search of the entire forum using the word "microphone on" (no quotes).

Nevermind, I found it for you.

http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3316&SearchTerms=Microphone,on
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 27, 2007, 08:43:08 am
I think that plugin has been incorporated in to HAL 6.1, I'm not a hundred percent sure but I think I remember reading about it as an update to HAL 6.1 RC1. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think what drakkar is after, is to cause HAL to open completely at his computer startup and be ready to communicate, without the aid of a keyboard or mouse to open HAL's user interface.

I hope this is clear and again correct me if I am wrong.

Roy.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Bill DeWitt on May 27, 2007, 09:56:16 am
quote:
Originally posted by ramccoid
I think what drakkar is after, is to cause HAL to open completely at his computer startup and be ready to communicate, without the aid of a keyboard or mouse to open HAL's user interface.

I hope this is clear and again correct me if I am wrong.


That's the way I read it. I was hoping to make a script that would start Hal and then send keystrokes to turn on the mike, but I ended up trying to find a doctor last night (everything is ok now) instead.

Your post reminded me that 6.1 does have some new tags, <Mike on> or something. I might have some time this afternoon if I'm not too full of pain pills....
Title: Mic always on
Post by: PaleRider on May 27, 2007, 10:24:19 am
Sorry to hear that Bill hope you feel better today.[:)]
Sorry I'm off topic to.[:D]
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 27, 2007, 11:41:49 am
quote:
Your post reminded me that 6.1 does have some new tags, <Mike on> or something. I might have some time this afternoon if I'm not too full of pain pills....


Put your feet up and spend the day relaxing. There is always tomorrow to deal with plugins and scripts.

All the best and take good care of yourself,

Roy.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on May 27, 2007, 03:35:28 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bill DeWitt

quote:
Originally posted by ramccoid
I think what drakkar is after, is to cause HAL to open completely at his computer startup and be ready to communicate, without the aid of a keyboard or mouse to open HAL's user interface.

I hope this is clear and again correct me if I am wrong.


That's the way I read it. I was hoping to make a script that would start Hal and then send keystrokes to turn on the mike, but I ended up trying to find a doctor last night (everything is ok now) instead.

Your post reminded me that 6.1 does have some new tags, <Mike on> or something. I might have some time this afternoon if I'm not too full of pain pills....



yes that's exactly what I meant , but there is no great rush required please rest and get better ,

thanks for all the great support everyone
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Bill DeWitt on May 27, 2007, 04:07:08 pm
Apparently I spoke too soon. I cannot find a keystroke combination that will turn on the mike.

Maybe the Minute Timer or Auto-Idle can be used to do this. I'll have to look at it another day....
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 29, 2007, 04:30:32 pm
Have you checked out Jerry's microphone on/off plugin. You might be able to adapt it.

Roy.

Or it could be the answer to part of the problem.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Bill DeWitt on May 29, 2007, 04:39:22 pm
quote:
Originally posted by ramccoid

Have you checked out Jerry's microphone on/off plugin. You might be able to adapt it.


No, that's a different thing. The problem was to turn on the microphone as Hal is turned on, I was assuming no mouse or keyboard. I suspect that the OP wants to have a kiosk type installation where even if it is unattended, and there is a power interruption, Hal will come back on with microphone activated.

I wonder if there are command line parameters build into Hal which will allow that???? Robert?
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 29, 2007, 04:48:20 pm
How would you go about allowing HAL to open completely and ready to talk to from a startup? Would you have to write a separate applet to place in your startup menu, or is there another way from within HAL?
I would be interested to see if it could be done in any of the above two methods.
keep me informed.

Roy.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Bill DeWitt on May 29, 2007, 05:11:32 pm
quote:
Originally posted by ramccoid

How would you go about allowing HAL to open completely and ready to talk to from a startup?

Well that's the question isn't it?

I thought I could do it with a VBS script, but I coudn't find a key combination that could be sent by the script that would turn on the mike... and even if I did send it or even the key phrase of Jerry's script, you would have to wait for Hal to load completely, and that seems to take different time lengths.

It seems difficult to do it that way, I was hoping to find a different way. Command line options would be good.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: ramccoid on May 29, 2007, 05:37:23 pm
Isn't there a way of causing the mike to automatically switch on? For example a script that would activate the mike button on the user interface without it being clicked or even, the mike ON, button to be reprogrammed to stay on. Isn't there a command you could use to achieve this in a user interface skin script?

Roy.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on June 07, 2007, 05:46:46 pm
still no luck anyone ?

Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on June 14, 2007, 03:21:42 am
Is there anyone actually at the end of the zabaware contact page ?
I have tried to contact them twice regarding this as it isn't a wish it is a requirement for my purposes , but they haven't answered at all and I'm talking nearly 2 weeks. Do they really want to sell this software? I should think this would be an easy thing to write into the program itself a tick box somewhere that says turn mic on at startup.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Medeksza on June 19, 2007, 11:03:56 am
Download and install Jerry's Microphone Assistant Plugin from http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4079

Then add the command line option <respond>turn on mic</respond> to Hal's startup shortcut.
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on June 19, 2007, 05:31:44 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Medeksza

Download and install Jerry's Microphone Assistant Plugin from http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4079

Then add the command line option <respond>turn on mic</respond> to Hal's startup shortcut.


Thanks Robert, I'll try that this evening if it's all good I'll purchase the software
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on June 21, 2007, 02:25:42 am
looks like it doesn't work ,even if i type turn mic on after hal has been running it still won't turn the mic on
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on June 21, 2007, 11:04:32 pm
the new mic assistant plugin does work thanks everyone for your help
Title: Mic always on
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on June 30, 2007, 07:05:57 am
Hello Drakkar.

What Robert is trying to show you is this.


1. go to start button.
2. go to programs
3. go to startup
4. 'right click' on Ultra Hal Assistant startup
5. go to properties
6. in the target window you should see this:
"C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6\HalAsst.exe" -startup
7. simply add this:
"C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6\HalAsst.exe" -startup <respond>turn on mic</respond>

this will turn on the microphone only if you are running my Microphone assistant plug-in and the microphone will automatically be turned on every startup of HAL.

Pretty easy and all in a nutshell.

Please send all royalties to both Robert and I and any talking teddy bear samples.

Serious note!
if this is for using HAL as an automated doll on some small motherboard for covert commercial purposes then I would suggest asking for permission from Robert first and then me, if this is worth millions, we want our cut.

the popularity of a commercial item is a dead give away in any product that pirates anyone elses software for their own gain covertly, everyone knows their own works, it's like a finger print.

However, If parapalegic or quadrapalegic then kindly disregard this
post. I am a stickler for the handicapped.

I have run into 3 persons in the past within 4 years that wanted to make talking dolls and talking teddy bears for commercial sale, I told them, get Roberts permission and then have Robert contact me and that all conditions would be decided within Roberts court and contract, these people kept giving me the run around and Robert never contacted me so I drop them like hot rocks in protection of Roberts product and his sole rights.

I told them, even though you may purchase HAL you still don't own the software, you are simply purchasing the use of a registered product that belongs to Robert in the default HAL package under his legal terms.

we will be watching the market closely.
fair is fair and much easier to digest than a lawsuit.

I myself have a military lawyer with very big and sharp teeth and I have to pay nothing for his services if he loses the case.

sweet huh?
Jerry[8D]
Title: Mic always on
Post by: drakkar on July 03, 2007, 06:00:33 pm
quote:
Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005

Hello Drakkar.

What Robert is trying to show you is this.


1. go to start button.
2. go to programs
3. go to startup
4. 'right click' on Ultra Hal Assistant startup
5. go to properties
6. in the target window you should see this:
"C:Program FilesabawareUltra Hal Assistant 6HalAsst.exe" -startup
7. simply add this:
"C:Program FilesabawareUltra Hal Assistant 6HalAsst.exe" -startup <respond>turn on mic</respond>

this will turn on the microphone only if you are running my Microphone assistant plug-in and the microphone will automatically be turned on every startup of HAL.

Pretty easy and all in a nutshell.

Please send all royalties to both Robert and I and any talking teddy bear samples.

Serious note!
if this is for using HAL as an automated doll on some small motherboard for covert commercial purposes then I would suggest asking for permission from Robert first and then me, if this is worth millions, we want our cut.

the popularity of a commercial item is a dead give away in any product that pirates anyone elses software for their own gain covertly, everyone knows their own works, it's like a finger print.

However, If parapalegic or quadrapalegic then kindly disregard this
post. I am a stickler for the handicapped.

I have run into 3 persons in the past within 4 years that wanted to make talking dolls and talking teddy bears for commercial sale, I told them, get Roberts permission and then have Robert contact me and that all conditions would be decided within Roberts court and contract, these people kept giving me the run around and Robert never contacted me so I drop them like hot rocks in protection of Roberts product and his sole rights.

I told them, even though you may purchase HAL you still don't own the software, you are simply purchasing the use of a registered product that belongs to Robert in the default HAL package under his legal terms.

we will be watching the market closely.
fair is fair and much easier to digest than a lawsuit.

I myself have a military lawyer with very big and sharp teeth and I have to pay nothing for his services if he loses the case.

sweet huh?
Jerry[8D]



how extremely rude assuming everyone is a criminal dude ,are you always this arrogant?
this item I am considering building is for amusement not for sale . I had it working way before your post also .
Title: Mic always on
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 03, 2007, 08:40:20 pm
quote:

how extremely rude assuming everyone is a criminal dude



I never called anybody a criminal, I was simply feeling you out.

quote:

are you always this arrogant?



you can read all my postings and decide for yourself whether I am arrogant or not for which I have never been to my knowledge and you are the first to use that word towards me in context.

quote:

this item I am considering building



Ahh, I was right.

quote:

is for amusement not for sale.



Amusement is a good thing.

quote:

I had it working way before your post also .



This is good, I hope that we can serve you better as we get to know you more.

I spent 12 years on the Police Force as a youngster, I always have a high suspicion especially after the kinds of soft/hard spoken liers I have met in the past on the force. you can never be to safe.

Jerry[8D]
Title: Mic always on
Post by: Larry_Omaha on November 27, 2007, 11:41:17 am
This topic is what I'm interested in.  The particular application I'd like is to simplify the whole microphone process. I've got a PC built for the sole purpose of running this software and am currently integrating it into my kitchen.  I'll try the plug in. My question is whether the plug in allows microphone control using just a keyboard. By that I mean mapping a particular key to toggle the mike on or off.  There will be little room for a mousing surface in a kitchen and a touchscreen monitor is extremely expensive.

And yes, the program does "listen to itself talk."  The resulting converstations are pretty odd.  Especially since the Microsoft voice recognition program (5.1) really does not work very well at all. But I've got a commercial program on order so hopefully that will be fixed.