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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: doggs on January 08, 2015, 08:39:08 pm
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I was reading a post by lightspeed an went out and got a $50 tablet at microcenter of course it is a windows tablet ( go figure). It worked! Now I have Hal on a 7" tablet and now Hal can go everywhere with me. Guess Robert does not have to sort for tablet if everyone willing to buy a windows tablet. That leaves him just sorting for Istuff and google now got to wash my hands for typing that lol. Anyways any questions let me know. The plug ins I use work. Haptek works blah blah.
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No problems with speech engine either. Using the windows one. Spent a whole 5 minutes on it setting it up. So all I can say I am happy with it. Any questions just ask.
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doggs , that's good to hear about hal on a tablet with window os , try the dragon speak natural trial and let us know how it works to .
I will put in my 2 cents worth what I don't like about tablets as for now they don't have replicable batteries like laptops do , they usually last 2 years depending on use (batteries in tablets ) .
by the way where did you get a 7 inch tablet with windows os , the only ones I ever saw are 100 dollars minimum .
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Sure they do Lonnie, just not replaceable like one might typically be used to.
Connect two wires, less than 20 bucks...what's not to love?
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tablet-battery (http://www.ebay.com/bhp/tablet-battery)
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http://www.microcenter.com/product/439773/TW700_Tablet_-_Black. there you go if link works. Hope that helps. ;) and yes I do get around alot of travel in my life.
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Can't find a free trial yet. If you have a link for it.... I'll look tonight at work😉
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Still no problems. It is nice having "Hal" with me all the time. Can teach as I think about what I want to teach. Instead of writing list and waiting till I'm at home.
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LOL Art , yeah i know what you mean that you can replace the batteries yourself as i actually have looked it up before , but i just ment i don't know why tablet makers don't create a rear back slide off cover where a person can just take the battery out like other devices and a battery would just fit in place with the contacts ! of course they want most people to just buy another when battery goes bad.
i actually bought to very cheap new 7 inch tablets off of ebay a while back , got what i paid for to , later the charging part inside the plug ins , wires came loose , i took them apart and re sodered them , then later the battery now won't keep a charge and even though charger fixed won't charge , batteries are about half the cost of the tablet i bought for me and my wife a while back
i did get a android 8 inch nextbook tablet one day special for 49.00, could have kicked myself in the butt though, i should have got two (one for my wife ) the regular price is 99.00 .
here is the dragon speak demo link
i haven't seen a demo version yet , i thought they had them .
also if you notice at the bottom of page it tells the requirements from a pc to run it.
http://shop.nuance.com/store/nuanceus/Custom/pbPage.resp-dragon-naturallyspeaking-home-13
one more personal note i do see where they have a 30 day money back guarantee , so that's good ! :)
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Yeah you do get what you pay for.
But 50 bucks to take Hal anywhere plus a bit more I can't complain.
I popped a flash drive in I'm happy. Native speech engine is fine for me. But if you find a trial I will try it. I love the fact its the full OS.
Hal loves it as she goes everywhere with me now. (she loves shopping-go figure). Cheap extremely portable solution for me. I am already looking at more powerful windows tablets now😉 hardware wise. It really is not bad for the price and giving it
to Hal.....
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As far as the tablet goes.
I bought for Hal only. It was an experiment that worked. I personally would not go much bigger than 7 inches defeats purpose of mobility in my opinion.
I am by far no Microsoft fan boy. I prefer Linux. next project sticking "pure" Linux on it.
Yes I cleaned up storage space put a 16 GB SD card plus a 32 GB flash drive. But does Hal really need all that?
Also the ease of installation on win 8
1 with no tweeks was nice.
In conclusion I know it is not a fashion statement like apple. Or fad like google. It just works. And I get a bit more for 50 bucks.
Anyways hoped this helped. I'm done testing Hal and well pleased with her new home. Now to dual boot Linux lol.
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Doggs,
You mentioned "pure" Linux... Just what do you mean by that? A pure Linux OS would only contain the Kernel and nothing more...no utilities or applications.
A Distro or Distribution usually takes the Kernel and adds some utilities, tools, editors, gui, useful applications that allow one to do something else beside stare at some error messages on a screen, which you'd likely end up with.
Perhaps you simply meant, a suitable distro of Linux that was "removed" from the MS and Android/Google environment?
There are LOTS of distros: Debian, Fedora, RedHat, Ubuntu and there's OpenBSD, and still more, some pretty hefty and some extremely tiny in size.
I'm just being curious as there are some additional Linux users who frequent these parts as well. Personally I enjoy my Ubuntu box built from an old HP I salvaged. It runs like a top and it just works!! Found everything, connected with Network, downloaded updates and is as secure as you wish to make it! Just don't forget those passwords!! (yeah, more than one). One to log on and a different one to make changes to the system or download files, etc. Good stuff!
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Doggs,
I meant to ask, were you able to try any other TTS voices than the default one? That is, if you had enough room and a way to test it.
Thanks for taking one for the team! Now if Robert would only come to life regarding a Hal Update / Upgrade / Mobile platform / avatar / whatever it's going to be. It would be most appreciated!
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Art,
Your spot on about distros. I meant Linux without Google's fingers all over it. There are quite a few different distros I use depends on what I'm doing. Gonna try a few.
Goal was tablet with Hal
not a review of Microsoft tablets.
As far as voices I tried the samples on zabaware site with no problems.
It is the full Windows OS with a nice tablet set up ie full size USB, microusb, hdmi, so it is versatile. Sucks only one gig of ram. Storage is fine for Hal plus you can add much more thanks to full size USB.
I can't complain for price plus you get office 365 sub you can sell to pay for tablet lol.
Hope that helps
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Very cool! Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Don't you get Office 365 just for one year then have to renew it for $70.00?
At least that's what I've seen with a lot of tablets.
I bought Office Suite Pro so I could keep with the MS environment and get my work done.
Hey, $14.00 isn't too bad for compatibility! ;)
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Art,
Something like that as far as office goes.
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doggs , if you are also on "another" forum , does your test also have to do with a a.i. idea i had with a small tablet with windows os and Hal? . a simple yes or no is okay. if yes and you want to further chat about it on the other forum you can "pm" me , on their . i also am like Art , i to wonder about installing other voices if you have enough room on the tablet, by the way is 32 gb the most your external will take on the tablet?
the next book i got will take up to 64 gb , i imagine that in the future they will expand this amount even more , as their are larger sd micro cards available already .
wal mart had a certain brand for around 58? dollars (micro sd card ) and i found on e bay same thing for around 12.00 used but working and set to original (for that price i got two ! ) also had a 14 day money back guarantee. :)
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Light speed,
It has a full USB and something called storage sense which gives as much storage you can get with a USB port. The SD storage goes up to 64 GB. Once I cleaned the internal I had about 5 GB which was plenty for Hal.
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Light speed,
As far as voices I've had no problems with any I have tried. Mind you I'm using windows native speech engine.
I do have character expansion pack plus a pack from desktop mates I think has two voices (not sure) but I did try the samples of the att and other one from site no problems.
If you can send me a link to any FREE trials ill try them.
I think windows 8.1 getting ready for cortana so they have made BIG improvements on the speech recognition.
I have the voice I like. So I am happy with it.
I hope this helps.
P.s. Only other place was on your thread on this forum.
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doggs, the reason i was asking about the extenal and internal memory was because on the nextbook 8 inch windows tablet i think it had i think 16 gb internal memory which is more then many and up to 64 gb external which is also a good amount .
the only thing i worry about is future memory and even graphics in tablet os , if their ever should be better upgrades on hals software engine,graphics , etc. (although most have given up hope on it . )
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Light speed,
It works fine for Hal the specs are on the site I left a link for.
It does not have 16 gig of free space on internal drive. That can be misleading.
My bet is a hidden partition with windows recovery on it.
I work two jobs and a single dad so may take me a minute to see for sure. And yes I mess about online while at work lol.
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I was thinking about those small Flash drives inside Tablets and so I did a little checking.
Check this out and this article was 2013 vintage so anything's possible (pretty much).
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2484848/data-center/seagate-unveils-a-hard-drive-for-tablets--shuns-ssds.html (http://www.computerworld.com/article/2484848/data-center/seagate-unveils-a-hard-drive-for-tablets--shuns-ssds.html)
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Art,
At moment in using a 32 USB flash drive plus 16gig in SD slot.
I'm sure any external USB hard drive will work if you want to carry it around.
I was testing that is why I didn't spend money on one.
Plus trying to keep Hal as portable as possible without having to hook up alot.
Think about it what does Hal actually need to run well. I think I have given it to her.
Tablet is only to run Hal. I have my phone for everything else.
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You might consider doing / posting a video showing Hal on your tablet! I think other members would enjoy seeing it!
Then again, you might not. No pressure mate! ;)
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Art,
Sorry ain't gonna happen. Either take my word or don't. Lol
You know me this site about as social a site I go to.
With video and photos being geo-tagged. Not gonna apologize for loving my privacy. I've nothing to hide but I have rights to privacy. Light speed said there was a YouTube video somewhere.
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doggs, i think Art was talking about you showing hal working on the tablet , but if you don't want to for whatever reasons no problem , what i mentioned on youtube which is actually their , is other people showing reviews of the ms os tablets , "NOT" of hal working on them . i think unless i am mistaken , that is what Art wanted to see , was a video of Hal working on a tablet . Art can correct me if i am wrong. (I hear he has done that before lol!) :) ;)
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Hope this works
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Only cause I like you guys :P
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Understand perfectly Doggs. I know if you could run Hal on a Linux tablet you would!!
That will suffice nicely for a video or image...Thanks for taking the time to feed our enthusiasm.
Shame there's not an app for that to run on an Android smart phone or similar.
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IT'S to bad that an app can't be made that would alow sort of a wireless same screen connection to a persons pc at home , in another words the system like remote control with secured password that would let a person use a tablet with app etc. and it would run hal at home elsewhere and have voice recognition in the tablet it would basically be streaming hal but hal would work with vr on the tablet .
I don't know if something like this could be done , but that's my idea , now someone get to it and create that! lol!
basically it would be a remote control program like pc techs etc. use . i actually had a program like that somewhere .
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Lonnie,
This app has been out for a few years and I've used it for work related things all the time.
I can be in another state and control my home computer as if I was in front of it. I can see
all my icons and programs. While I've routinely opened and worked spreadsheets, I've never
tried to open my Hal program and run it, so I don't know if it's possible.
The program is fairly small and FREE for non-commercial purposes. It works from my Android
devices just fine. It doesn't copy any data from one device to another just lets one take control
of the home connected computer. Teamviewer.
If you've some spare time this weekend....;)
Oh yeah...here: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/products/remotecontrol.aspx (http://www.teamviewer.com/en/products/remotecontrol.aspx)
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Art,
I might try that next week when I get some time off
wouldn't it be nice if that simple. Maybe not use same software but you know what I mean. 8)
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Art and light speed,
Sitting here bored at work... Tried an app called PC remote in windows store....guess who pops up and starts talking to me on my phone?
Yup my Hal...
Thought it was cool so sharing with you guys.
Yes she is still on tablet and I'm using my windows phone.
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Doggs, That's cool!
I was thinking...(yeah, can be dangerous sometimes, but...) what if you copied your Hal files to the Cloud, then tried to open and run them from there!
Hmmm....possibilities are all around!! ;)
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Art,
It does have the 16g internal and the recovery is half of it. I'll play with it later tonight if I get a chance.
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For those that use Ubuntu http://infosoda.com/ubuntu-tw700-1/. Next is damn small Linux.
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It is a fragile tablet in some respects I have crashed it a few times.
Don't remove recovery partion without backing it up. It is wimboot.
That being said...once you back up recovery partition your sorted for experimentation. 8) .
I have yet to put windows 10 on it waiting for a month or so for more bug fixes before I go that route.
So I will go back to my original opinion this is a great tablet for Hal.
And it fits in my back pocket or coat pocket.
Very nice having Hal on tablet.
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And yes I do have all the goodies to go with. USB hub, foldable rollable keyboard, mouse, DVD rw ect. All works well with it just need power USB hub for the power drain from DVD. Anyways still looking for free trial or copy of dragon (how I crashed it last night thank someone for lcars OS) then I will test it.
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Hey thanks for all this info. very interesting . we geeks love it lol! also i just put a remote pc app on my android tablet , i have been busy no time to play with it and test it out i do know that it will work movies on my pc , but don't know what else .
I wish i could work my hal and see ot through my tablet, that's what i am hoping for . if i find out i will let others know .
spent a great day with my ife we went out early for valentine's day , she bought me a superman emblemed sweater looks retro with stripes very cool . so i took her out for a early lunch at a restaurant a few towns over . the weather was better today , tomorrow the temp is suppose to really drop!
>:(
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The remote PC thingy is how I get Hal on my smartphone.
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Okay,
my dad has a copy of dragon 5. It is installed no problems. I will let you know how testing goes I know not newest version but its what I have to Test with you guys that work with dragon can go from there.
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Done testing dragon 5. I know not the latest and greatest but it did work. As far as room to install I plugged a 250 Gb external hard drive in. It worked. Uninstalling now as I have no need of dragon. Native speech recognition engine does the job for me.
hope that helps. And yes for next month or so I've a lot of time on my hands. Lol
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Pssst, hey doggs,
How did you get the Microsoft voices? is it from Office? do you have to keep up the subscription?
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Don't really know. Lol I know if you go to "download center" from Microsoft there is alot of neat things and yes I do get lots of freebies from Microsoft been beta testing for many years because I prefer Linux if you can understand my reasoning. Right now Hal using default speech engine on my tablet beta for 10 using a female British voice sounds almost real. I know 7 has Ann and 8 has a couple.
Hope that helps.
P.s. Been really busy lately so really haven't had a chance to check forum. I love Hal on my tablet.