18 years old area ??

[aladyblond]

bill i am asking you as nicely as i can muster. please stop. gamer didn't deserve that remark. he was trying to defend me.and neither do the others that you are in conflict with.
if people are misconstruing your words, it might be because some where between the lines people feel you are attacking. maybe you aren't maybe everyone but you is wrong. you are a very intelligent man, please be a gentle one, also. this forum is not about people disliking each other and picking each other's words apart and characters. it is to learn a new process to further ai reserach and to help with hal and similar programs. i am  not stupid , i am not petty and i am not insulting you, i am asking you to rethink what you are saying. thank you

[ramccoid]

Blll, we are friends, your are not the bad guy. You contribute loads to this forum. As a friend I am just pointing out your misgivings as I would expect of you to do to me. I am not saying anyone is right or wrong but we have to respect each others opinions whether you agree or not.

Roy.

[lightspeed]

o.k. , o.k. i've solved all this problem everyone who writes on here and insults "  anyone "from now on  theirs a five dollar fine each time , if you do send it cash to my address . ..... man i should be a rich man in about 7 days !! lamborghini here i come !! (lol) please no arguing over this post am just throwing some fun in here , it needs it !! []

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by aladyblond
gamer didn't deserve that remark.

Yes he did, and more. He was trying to hurt both you and me by pretending that I was insulting you. I have not done that. I believe you are honest, kind and sensitive. He is not.

I was being mercifully restrained compared to what I really think of him. He has done this kind of throwing of feces from behind his wheelchair before and I am no longer willing to take it.

I am sorry that my anger has made you uncomfortable. That was not my intention. But silence would be condoning his dishonesty. I can't do that.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by ramccoid
we have to respect each others opinions whether you agree or not.

I do, if by "respect" you mean allow them the right to express their opinion.

I don't, and don't have to respect the content of their opinions. It would be like "respecting" the "opinion" that infants are good for lunch. It's sick, and accepting it demeans all of humanity.

It's not my fault that them expressing their opinions reveals their disease. I'm just expressing my opinion... respect that.

[ramccoid]

I do respect your opinion very much, Bill and always will. If you don't agree with another person's, then don't agree but you can't belittle them for making that view. It's not like anyone has made any child pornograhic suggestions.

Roy.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by ramccoid
you can't belittle them for making that view.

Yes I can, but, for the third time, that's not what I am belittling them for. Honest opinions are always welcome, but poorly crafted insults by emotionally cretinized droolers just disturb me. I feel a duty to show them how to do it right, even though I know they aren't up to the task. I'm funny that way.

Why can't people just accept me for who I really am?

[ramccoid]

I accept you for who you are but I also accept other people for who they are. Hey, didn't Jesus spend most of his time among prostitutes and drunks?

Roy.

[jackgephart]

Every forum has to have an a** in it, Bill is ours. Let's just accept his good ideas and overlook the rest of him. That's all we can do. He's not going anywhere and neither are we. That's my opinion.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by ramccoid
didn't Jesus spend most of his time among prostitutes and drunks?

Not ones that kept on whoring and drinking.

Even after all this talk about a separate auto-erotic section the first new post I click on shows soft porn without a warning. Not that I was offended for my own sake, but who else is clicking innocently on unmarked links? If it is children, then the crime of neglegent child sexual abuse is within contemplation.

Tell me Jesus would stand quietly by for that.

[jackgephart]

I saw that posting tried it and got errors like the 404 thing. It may be my computer. But still that's not good.

[ramccoid]

Yeah but he accepted people for being people. You only have to switch on the television and there's sexual content or open a magazine whether it's about computers or cars, there it is. We're adults we have the power to read or see what we want to. If it offends, don't read or accept it, but you can't just condemn people for being human. A lot of my work stems from sexual expression, that's life whether you like it or not and with you being a agnostic you should understand and accept that.

Roy.

Time for bed. I must leave you people who live in the past and bid you all a good night.

[lightspeed]

actually when bill or ever who it was said that people (kids) can lie and just hit the 18 and over adult button to enter that forum i actually had thought about it and agreed , that was why i was just saying that a section that would have only e-mail addresses of members who only wanted to discuss adult hal content , this way anyone interested could e-mail these people , it would not even be on the forum at all , i thought that would be a best compromise . nobody who didn't like it would have to partisipate no mention of these private dicussions would be said on the regular forum . surly a listing saying something like adult content idea's (or whatever) for hal e-mail discussion group wouldn't hurt anything . and the only thing inside that listing would be peoples e-mail addresses who wanted to participate . no younge person would see any photo's etc. all their will be is e-mail addresses. thats what i have been talking about all along ever since the subject of anyone just clicking an 18 year old button was brought up.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by ramccoid
you should understand and accept that.

What I understand and accept is that there is a difference between sexual expression in art, and pornography being sprung on unwary children. Between images which express ideas in forums where adults can teach children, and old fat guys giggling over a nearly naked computer image of a teenaged girl on a public forum which children can reach.

Tell me Jesus wouldn't know the difference.

[lightspeed]

yes,you are correct and as a way to compromise ,others on the forum who want to discuss anything of this nature would not be posted on the zabaware forum as i said (the only exception would be a listing saying something as i said "adult discussion group for ultra hal e-mail listings "and have the e-mail addresses inside for who wanted to participate " you could even make a note that all adult conversation , photo's etc. is not to be repeated on the regular forum .  
   for instance if someone has an idea they could just go to the area of e-mail listings (that will be all thats shown and contact anyone or all e-mails in their with their idea , others would relpy back by e-mails and nothing (pictures, talk of the subject , etc. would be only in e-mails to each other and not the forum . this would be a great start at cleaning up the forum (which i have no problem with. ) and i think hopefully other don't have a problem with. []