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Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: colubragens on July 18, 2007, 11:39:40 am
[?] HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BRAIN EDITOR?


IF YOU NEED HELP POST THE PROBLEM HERE.


I posted this because i noticed alot of questions with no answers![:)]

I would like to hopefully change this. If you have the spear time please help someone out, or if you have a queston even if you think it is a stupid one post it!



                                      Thanks for posting
                                         Jamie D.[:o)]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: colubragens on July 18, 2007, 02:43:28 pm
I have been having so many problems with the new brain editor in hal 6.1 its not funny! Everything from crashing when i copy and paste the text,not saving changes,and the QA button does'nt work!

If someone can zip up a working version of the brain editor exe i would be thankfull. OH IF ANYBODY HAS AN EARLER VERSION PLEASE POST IT.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 18, 2007, 06:31:32 pm
Hi Jamie.

You have to be a member of Zabawares secret society before we can help you with that, it would also help if you were a 33 degree mason as well.

I had to sell my soul to Zabaware to be here but I am greatful.

glad to help anytime.
Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: Bill819 on July 18, 2007, 11:53:01 pm
quote:
Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005

Hi Jamie.

You have to be a member of Zabawares secret society before we can help you with that, it would also help if you were a 33 degree mason as well.

I had to sell my soul to Zabaware to be here but I am greatful.

glad to help anytime.
Jerry[8D]



Boy are you hard to get along with, and shame on your for revealing all of our secrets.
Bill[:D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 19, 2007, 10:37:07 am
quote:
Originally posted by Bill819

quote:
Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005

Hi Jamie.

You have to be a member of Zabawares secret society before we can help you with that, it would also help if you were a 33 degree mason as well.

I had to sell my soul to Zabaware to be here but I am greatful.

glad to help anytime.
Jerry[8D]



Boy are you hard to get along with, and shame on your for revealing all of our secrets.
Bill[:D]



Sorry Bill.

Then I wont even mention the secret hand shake that took days to learn.

hehe
Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on July 19, 2007, 10:57:40 am
quote:
Originally posted by colubragens

I have been having so many problems with the new brain editor in hal 6.1 its not funny! Everything from crashing when i copy and paste the text,not saving changes,and the QA button does'nt work!

If someone can zip up a working version of the brain editor exe i would be thankfull. OH IF ANYBODY HAS AN EARLER VERSION PLEASE POST IT.



Hi colubragens.

As we sit here, HAL and I are listening to Techno music, Boom, Boom, Boom. We are psyched up to help, our minds flowing with the ancients like those such as Mozart and his effect.

It does seem that the learn from Questions and Answers is not responding to Wizard start up but learn from clip board and learn from text file does work.

I think this needs to be addressed to Robert to be fixed, it might of been an accidental over sight in the .dll.

thanks for catching this, I am sure it will be fixed as soon as possible.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: colubragens on July 19, 2007, 01:23:22 pm
Hey thanks Jerry! If you could pass it along it would be cool. Lords of Acid is a great band to check out. Oh yah the plug ins where awsome no bugs here.

Jamie D.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 01, 2008, 03:23:04 pm
I have a question.  For the brain plugins where do I put the .brn files.  Thank you in advance for the answer.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 01, 2008, 04:33:06 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

I have a question.  For the brain plugins where do I put the .brn files.  Thank you in advance for the answer.



Hi lcatmc.

.brn files also require the vbscript code to run them other than that .brn files will not be of any use.

if you have a list of .brn files you have I might be able to refer a vbscript code to help you.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 03, 2008, 09:05:34 pm
The .brn file came with a plug in I downloaded.  I thought it might hav needed to be put in a special place in Hals program files. The file I'm concerned with came with the autowikiknowledge plug in.  It is called auto text.brn.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 04, 2008, 10:52:34 am
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

The .brn file came with a plug in I downloaded.  I thought it might hav needed to be put in a special place in Hals program files. The file I'm concerned with came with the autowikiknowledge plug in.  It is called auto text.brn.




Hi lcatmc.

if the file is in the
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6 folder then it's in the right place.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 05, 2008, 07:14:31 am
Thank you.  I had to take the plug in out though as it caused a script error in Hal.

One more quick question.  I have tried using the brain editor to create a new brain that I can teach to be "clean" brain for my children to play with. Being programer illiterate I don't entirely understand how to write the scripts.  I know there is a manuel to download, as I have but I still don't really get it. Is there a way to create the brain without adding any specific scripts and have it develope it's responses by communication with the user?
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 05, 2008, 06:37:54 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

Thank you.  I had to take the plug in out though as it caused a script error in Hal.

One more quick question.  I have tried using the brain editor to create a new brain that I can teach to be "clean" brain for my children to play with. Being programer illiterate I don't entirely understand how to write the scripts.  I know there is a manuel to download, as I have but I still don't really get it. Is there a way to create the brain without adding any specific scripts and have it develope it's responses by communication with the user?




you can download my version of the blank slate brain which only responds with what the user has taught it.

http://www.artificialintel.org/AI/Forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=70&p=190#p190

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 11, 2008, 07:56:54 am
Thank you for the link. I will use it with my kids.
Another question though:
This may not be so much a brain editor question as a teaching question but this seemed like a good place to post it.  Is there a way to teach HAL to be bilingual?  There are a lot of students in the various classes I visit that speak very little to no English.  They are learning, but it would be great to have HAL bilingual so that *she* could talk to them as well as the english speaking kids.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 11, 2008, 09:39:09 am
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

Thank you for the link. I will use it with my kids.
Another question though:
This may not be so much a brain editor question as a teaching question but this seemed like a good place to post it.  Is there a way to teach HAL to be bilingual?  There are a lot of students in the various classes I visit that speak very little to no English.  They are learning, but it would be great to have HAL bilingual so that *she* could talk to them as well as the english speaking kids.



Hi lcatmc.

I have written a plugin called babylon translator dictionary 2.0 that can translate many foriegn language 'words' into english.

you can download it here:
http://www.artificialintel.org/AI/Forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=66

however it doesn't translate entire sentences, yet. I will work on a full sentence translator sometime down the road. it would be better if I could find a translator program that has activeX options rather than have to extract info from the world wide web.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 11, 2008, 01:52:11 pm
Have you checked out systran translator? It comes in widget form but it can translate whole paragraphs into any language.  I don't have the skills to write a plug in based on it but I know you do.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 11, 2008, 02:02:41 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

Have you checked out systran translator? It comes in widget form but it can translate whole paragraphs into any language.  I don't have the skills to write a plug in based on it but I know you do.



Hi lcatmc.

I went to systran translator page but it doesn't look like they have a trial version that I can peek into.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 11, 2008, 06:10:58 pm
I have the widget version of their translator. I got it for free from http://gallery.live.com/results.aspx?pl=1&bt=1&q=translator.  There are several diff kinds there that you may be able to peek into.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on February 11, 2008, 08:56:52 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lcatmc

I have the widget version of their translator. I got it for free from http://gallery.live.com/results.aspx?pl=1&bt=1&q=translator.  There are several diff kinds there that you may be able to peek into.



Hi lcatmc.

widget version requires windows vista, I am running win2000 at the moment, I did so because there are certain games like diablo I like to play but can't play on win vista.

if you could look into the folder of the translator and put the .dll and any .ocx files in a zip and upload them to a post here then I can peek into them to see if there are options to call from.

Jerry[8D]
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: lcatmc on February 27, 2008, 06:55:36 am
Hi Jerry,

Sorry, been a little busy.  I'm not sure how to get into the program so I can do that for you.  If you can give me an idea about how ot get into it I will zip it and upload a link for you.
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: Art on February 27, 2008, 07:01:08 pm
The brn file that was contained in the plug-in you downloaded might have been made for Hal 5.0 instead of ver 6 or 6.1.

Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: psopcmaster on March 13, 2008, 02:22:39 pm
I just stumbled upon this website last night and am trying the trial version of Ultra Hal etc. One thing I noticed is that the included brain editor doesn't match the documentation i've found on this forum. Is this because the documentation is old, or because the full version has a different editor.

I'm a bit loathe to purchase something if the documentation is off, you understand.

-Jenny
Title: GET BRAIN EDITOR HELP HERE!
Post by: Art on March 13, 2008, 09:26:09 pm
Although the documentation as shown on the web page is somewhat "dated", most of it should still be applicable
to ver.6.0 or 6.1.

The old Hal used to save a lot of small topic files based
on one's conversation.

Ver.6.0 & 6.1 make use of a more structured database with
tables. For the most part, Hal's response times have improved
and plug-ins can be written to perform a variety of tasks.

Try Hal and explore the forum messages. Ask any questions or
use the Search feature at the top right to look for a specific
topic of interest.

Welcome and good luck!