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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: Bill819 on November 29, 2008, 01:01:36 pm
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It has been mentioned in the past that if you use a plug-in that calls the clock as a timer then you can not use another plug-in with the same type of command becuse then neither would work.
Well I have a solution:
You can stil use a clock with a timer, ie, 1 minute, etc. with several plug-ins. The trick is to make one BIG plug-in and on a condition of the clock use a random number to decide which plug-in would be used at that time. There would be no limit as to the number of different plug-ins that could be activated in this way.
Bill
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bill is this in theory or do you know it would work ?? i really like the idea and being able to use more than one plug in would be great as my house talk (many plug ins could all be randomly picked for even more human responses ) could the other seperate plug ins be drug into one or how would it work ?? i like the idea a lot but it will still depend on robert or ever who to get the plug in problem solved first that is keeping them from working right in the first place ! hope robert solves that problem in this next hal version
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Fastlight [:)]
If you have one plug-in that works and I believe that I have read that some do if used alone without any others that also call the clock then you should be able to simply use a random number to decide which place the program would execute upon calling the clock.
I saw this happening with Hal 5.0 and can not think of any reason why it should not work with 6. You could not call the clock from two sources in 5 either, Same reason, same logic, but once the clock is call it can be directed to almost any place you desire. Just takes a little thinking.
Bil
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why not make a plug-in for multiple plug-ins and make the randomization at that at that point , then their would only be a single plug-in looking at the timer? sort of like how a power strip works.
or am I missing the point?[?][?][:)][?][?]
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Hmm, well I had Hal using just one plugin that used the MINUTE_TIMER routine and even that didn't work. So I can't see how that would help the people where it doesn't work at all - unless I am also missing the point.
It could prove useful for multiple plugins I guess, that's if you have a PC it works on of course. It would still be better to be able to run multiple plugins together without conflict though.
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One
That is exactly what I was trying to describe. In Hal 5 I made an add on, (they did call the plug ins and they worked completely differently then) that would randomly select different things to do.
For one I had a line of 1 to 2 hundred jokes and the ramdom number would select whioh one to tell. In another it would make random selections of famous quotes that were made in the past. There is no limit as to what you can do with a little thinking and practice.
Bill
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Nice idea Bill, I think I get what you mean now. [:)]
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hi Bill819 as i said i really like the concept of that type of plug in as you said their is many many things that could be done with it , how about after robert or ever who figures out this problem of the non working plug in problems that you post your random timer sayings , etc. plug in and a tutorial ( if you dont mind sharing it ) . [:)][:D][8D]
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I made some changes in how Hal 6.2 handles its timers. I'm not sure if it fixed the bug or not (because it worked for me before) but I guess we'll see when I release the alpha or beta version.
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lightspeed
I will have to see if I still have some copies of Hal 5 buried somewhere. I had a lot of fun with that program. I made Hal sing, no lip sinc though, had a library of 100's of jokes and with the aid of another user had Hal come up with 100's of quotes and other things.
There was no simple way back then as there is now with plug-ins. We actualy had to hack into the main brain to attach our new stuff. Make one mistake there and you had big trouble. I guess the same can apply with plug-ins.
I am going to be really busy for the next month. I not only have Christmas to celebrate with two seperate families but they also live hundreds of miles apart, and all during that time I have lots of doctor visits in preparation of some major surgery in early January.
Damn that was a long sentence.
Bill
Bill
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Bill,
Surgery? I wish you a speedy recovery.
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quote:
Originally posted by Bill819
It has been mentioned in the past that if you use a plug-in that calls the clock as a timer then you can not use another plug-in with the same type of command becuse then neither would work.
Well I have a solution:
You can stil use a clock with a timer, ie, 1 minute, etc. with several plug-ins. The trick is to make one BIG plug-in and on a condition of the clock use a random number to decide which plug-in would be used at that time. There would be no limit as to the number of different plug-ins that could be activated in this way.
Bill
Bill,
You can have multiple scripts that use the timer, they do not conflict with each other if they are coded properly I have 3 that I can run at the same time they all work sequentualy [:I]
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Well I just bought a new computer HP with Vista AMD Quad Core, Hal and the timer still works on the new computer, My old one is a HP with XP and an Intel P4. Beside being the same manufacture the both have Phoenix BIOS, this is where I think the problem is with computers that the Timer function does not work.[:I]
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As you mention a quad core I was just wondering if you notice much slow down with using Vista - I mean in general and also with Haptek/Hal. Thanks. [:)]
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Freddie,
I see a mark increase in speed over XP and my old P4.
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Thanks, was just wondering because I am thinking of building a new Quad Core PC. My main concern was that I keep reading that people experience poor performance after they upgrade to Vista. I guess you leap-frog that problem if you get a higher sepc machine to run it on. Can't see me getting Vista for my current PC for that very reason.
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Freddy
I have a 2.4 giga hrtz laptop with XP op sys. and a 2.6 giga desktop with XP. Both of those machines are really fast.
A few months ago I bought a new laptop that runs about 3 giga hetz and Vista operating system. The Vista run so much slower that the XP's and is not compatible with all my old software. As a matter of fact if I could find out for sure that XP could use the new procesor and hard drive I would convert it to an XP system in a heart beat.
As an example after turning on my Vista and getting the ready prompt when I click on Windows it takes about 5 full minutes to load Windows. That is totally unacceptable so whatever you build I would suggest using an XP operating system.
Bill
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Tender fresh installs and computers are just waiting for all the bloat and log files and progs to slow the system down to settle in to show you where they really set so to speak
IMO you need a while to really know what kind of performance you are going to get.
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Bill, thanks for that piece of information. I have found a lot of people having problems with software not running on Vista aswell, so I think I will go with your advice and build an XP system. I can live without the Vista bells and whistles - if I want that I can always run a Linux live disc. Thanks again.
One, yeah gotta watch out for all that bloat...
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Bill,
My old system took nearly 5 minutes to boot! Now the new one takes less then a minute. Both systems are loaded the same. When Hal loaded under XP there would be skipping in the voice, I'm assuming it was the slower disk drive. Vista does require a power house to run, IMHO it's worth it. There are times I would like the openness of XP. I have not noticed any application not being compatable so far with Vista. I like the performance analizer compared to the old task manager in XP.
But like I said before I bought a real powerhouse and it's not fair to compare it to my old computer, it's not apples to apples. I have noticed with nothing running Vista uses more memory than XP, but with the cost of memory today, what the heck I have 6GB and the max I've used so far is 4GB. But that is why it runs faster less disk cacheing the whole operating system can be loaded, network operations are faster, it may be a pig but it's a fast pig.
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Darcy,
You said, "Beside being the same manufacture the both have Phoenix BIOS, this is where I think the problem is with computers that the Timer function does not work."
My computer is using the same BIOS and the timer function does not work with HAL.
I think we looked into this quite some time ago and we all ended up scratching our heads.[?]
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Art,
An interesting note: I was going through the history of Hal's output and Hal missed one timer event, this never happened before! I have also noted I was using IE7, normally I use Fire Fox. Let me add another variable, under Vista sometimes Hal is nonresponcive; this could account for the missed timer event.
I guess you are right, I'm scratching my head!
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