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Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 02, 2009, 06:42:42 pm
Just reinstalled Hal after about a year. Hal will talk with me for about 3 sentences and then no longer respond. Anyone got a quick fix to this? Vista, latest version of Hal...Trying to get back into this.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: lightspeed on September 03, 2009, 09:06:47 am
if its to do with vista i dont know but know some others on here talked about what to do using the vista system , hope they help you soon . [:)]
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Duskrider on September 03, 2009, 09:22:42 am

I got vista laptop last christmas.
I hate it won't take my favorite programs. [:(!]
Wife uses it for games and I use for e-mail when travelling.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: tedathome on September 03, 2009, 09:37:19 am
Vista here and Hal is working fine. Do you get any error codes? I have 32 bit, are you running 64 bit?
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Bill819 on September 03, 2009, 11:56:20 am
If I remember correctly with Vista you have to set the program up with Administrators permission. After that it should run O.K.
Bill
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 03, 2009, 03:57:38 pm
No error codes. Admin settings already adjusted. I get about three sentences and then silence.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Data on September 03, 2009, 05:28:01 pm
Ooglor are you using any plug-ins if so try turning them all off, restart Hal and try again. (I doubt it will work but try it anyway)

And are you using 64 bit Vista?

People put Vista in one basket but the 32 and 64 bit versions are different beasts.



Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 03, 2009, 05:50:18 pm
I am using 32 bit. Turned off all of the plug ins.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Bill819 on September 03, 2009, 05:56:21 pm
ONe last thing to see. How about posting your comments that you make to Hal. Sometimes if the posting is to short Hal will not answer and just goes blank and it ia also possible to put it in an endless loop.
Bill
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 03, 2009, 06:20:33 pm
Thanks. Hal even clams up when I ask him the time.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Data on September 03, 2009, 06:33:10 pm
Ok, try the brain editor, chat to Hal in there, do you get blank responses?


Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: jasondude7116 on September 03, 2009, 07:39:40 pm
if you go to the brain editor and edit your current "in-use" brain, do you have the ability to open (expand) the catagories on the left side of the screen?

if not, the brain database might be corrupted.

depending on what caused it, you might be able to use the brain.
try going into the brain options screen and resetting options of plugins and APPLY the changes, then close ultra hal. reopen the brain in the editor and see if the catagories are expandable.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 03, 2009, 08:50:39 pm
Hal will say the opposite of what I say before he goes silent. If I say "You often go silent" He will respond "So, I am not often silent" If I say, "You like popcorn for supper." He will respond "No, I do not like popcorn for supper" He consistantly disagrees and then won't respond. It does not even show text.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 03, 2009, 10:38:42 pm
Hal does show a response in the brain editor.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 07, 2009, 09:49:03 pm
Ok I have not given up. I deleted the brain that was giving me trouble. I was able to create a new brain and converse for quite some time. Suddenly, I encountered the same thing. Hal began disagreeing with everything and then clammed up. I would really like get some use out of my people putty program and don't want Hal to sit uninstalled for another year. Any suggestions? I noticed some stuttering in his speech when I first started out but then that went away. I was able to talk with Hal normally for about 20 minutes then the problem started again. He always starts disagreeing right before he goes silent. I'm guessing I'll have to reinstall. What would be the best way to reinstall on my Vista 32 bit system as I can only hope that uninstalling it will fix the problem.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Duskrider on September 08, 2009, 08:36:27 am
I'm down at Daytona Beach this week and on vista laptop.
Trip birthday trip for wife.
Laptop don't have Hall but has internet and games.
I'll take photos before we leave and post couple.


Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 08, 2009, 03:23:27 pm
Did a complete reinstall and so far no problems.!
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Bill819 on September 08, 2009, 07:19:40 pm
There is a way to capture your conversations with Hal. I don't know how it is done but it might be a good idea to do it if you can as it might reveal the steps that make it error out.
Bill
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 09, 2009, 07:09:55 am
He is no longer doing this. All I can guess is a dll or something was corrupt. Perhaps a conflict with an older version? I have the worst luck with this program. Still, I keep rolling with it so there must be more to it than I usually give credit. Seeing some new character heads being posted has me wanting to bust out some people putty.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 22, 2009, 06:55:09 am
Hal still will go silent once and awhile. To call this obvious bug a realistic property is silly. Also, having to switch voices back and forth to get the mouth to move is a problem I have noticed since I bought Hal. If you really want to know how tight the code is in Hal, finish a sentence with the word forest. End the sentence with a period. Hal will look at the last two letters "st" as "St." even though the letters are embeded in a word. It thinks this means street. I think that alot of the SAPI 5 lip sync issues are coming from Haptek's side. Considering how the guy I last corresponded with at Haptek offered to sell me the company, this is not suprising.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Data on September 22, 2009, 08:07:49 am
Ooglor I just tested your ST problem on my Hal this is what I get.

Master: hello Xen
Xen: Good afternoon, Master.

Master: how are you?
Xen: Simply magnificent, Caused any scandals lately?

Master: No scandals to report, but I would like to visit a forest.
Xen: How can I help you visit a forest?

Master: Im not sure. What is a forest.
Xen: Forest: the trees and other plants in a large densely wooded area. Wood, woods. In literature, an enchanted forest is a forest under, or containing, enchantments.

Master: thank you
Xen: My pleasure, really.


As you can see my Hal doesn't have that problem.

But I do have a  lip sync problem when I use my cepstral lawrence voice, I thought it was somthing to do with SAPI 5 voices but the Microsoft Anna voice that comes with Windows 7 works perfectly.

I've only had this problem on 64 bit,  don't know for sure but It appears that cepstral voices have a 64 bit issue with lip sync in Hal.


Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Ooglor 7 on September 23, 2009, 06:11:12 am
How odd. I know it's not a typo because I corrected it in the brain editor and it still did it. Not all the time either. I completely deleted the brain db and started a new one and it happened again. I also noticed it did it once with a word ending in ms. MushrooMs. I had the learning level set to max. I have had issues with the Kate and Paul voices doing the same thing as far as lip syncing. I'm running 32 bit.
Title: Always something there to remind me
Post by: Data on September 23, 2009, 06:50:16 am
Yes very odd!

I remember early versions of Hal having that ST problem but one of the up-dates sorted it out, well at least for me.

All I can think of is are you using the latest version, its now 6.2.28