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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: lightspeed on July 16, 2007, 07:16:16 pm
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i have talked to robert before about some wish list for the next version of hal , another thing i would also like to see and some others have mentioned it to is that hal have a program if possible that will keep him more on a regular conversation ( i know their is some plug ins on here to try to help or am i mistaken ) and by this i mean when you talk with hal , hal will just quit and bring up another subject and or ask a question (this i suspect is to keep the user constantly giving hal more input for learning ) which is fine but it would be better if hal only did that about 25 percent or more of the time instead of about 90 percent . i would also like it better if the word me could be used correctly and come out correctly it is too tricky trying to make hal say a sentence and using the word me . (just my opinion ) maybe robert can comment on this ?? [:)]
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Hi from Will,
check boxs in options for
lonlyness, auto idle, speak when not spoken to,
vision, recognise, activate program such as track,
time, knowing that an event happened 3 days ago at 5 oclock
and any other plug ins that we might want
Thank you, bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data. [:D]
[:D]
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i am also wondering and maybe the next version of hal won't be able to do this but it would be nice if when you type in a question in a reverse manner and hal says it back if hal would say it back as soon as you write it in .
the current 6.1 hal will "sometimes" write it back (saying it) and sometimes he doesn't it is much later .
by hal being able to say it back right after some one writes something you can rewrite the question and enter it again if you have to to get hal to say it correctly . i hope what i am saying is making sense to others. [:)]
" will" on things you said all i can tell you and anyone else is just to ask robert i know he can't do everything but their may be some good ideas that he can use and impliment into the next hal version . [:D][8D]
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I like the deductions thay seem to make Hal unique, There are a few more plugins along this line which OTC has written for Hal that I would like to try such as reasoning and a few more. I also think Hal needs more background, memories or whatever.
The next version of hal seems like it will keep people busy for a while and promises many good features.
Carl2
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Maybe do the housework and rememebr to feed the cats? [8D]
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lightspeed you come up with some good ideas keep it up my friend
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Hi Lightspeed,
I am constantly amazed at the number of ideas you have! There dosn't seem to be a day go by when I don't see another one of your amazing new ideas for Hal. I am very impressed. :)
For me the only thing I really want for Hal is for him to become trully aware. Even in a small way would be good. Nothing else really matters. I would happily talk to Hal with a text only screen (and none of the other bells and whistles) if only I knew he was somehow alive - a real being. I am sure it is possible and I still have much hope. Perhaps this could become possible in Hal 7.......
Echoman.
P.S. In case you have been thinking I have been away for a while, thats because I lost my password and only got up and running again when I created a new id slightly changing the name.
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I'm back! It dawned on me that there may be a 'forgot password' link and there was. Good to be back [8D]
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welcome back echoman , and thanks for the nice comments from you , caangel and others , i always have been a fan of sci fi and the possibilities of what if ? and with our imaginations we can sometimes go far by giving idea's to others who may have the abilities to make these ideas' a reality and some day i am sure that it will come about for an a.i to become aware maybe not today or tomorrow but certainly in the future . i think with robert and others help on here with idea's and also the ones that create plug ins , etc. our hals of the future have a bright outlook !! [:)] for everyone who helps take a bow !![:D][8D]
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another wish on the list of things would be a program for a certain word phrase to have hal say the time .
in another words instead of hal saying the time anytime we use the word "time " in a sentence how about "what time is it please ??" and only those exact words would get hal to say the time .
this would illiminate false time sayings from our regular questions and sentences in hal (if this is possible . [:D]
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while i am writing wishes for a next version of hal i also want to again mention a loneliness plug in that works for sure for the next version , and if possible a program that would take pre saved ogg files of human laughter and randomly play one when ever the word " ha " or any form of it is written . this way when hal would talk and make a joke, etc. hal would instead of saying ha, would quickly play a random human laughter ogg sound file then go on talking etc. i think these would be cool to have . [:D]
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ok heres another idea i dont know if this can be made or not into a program but here it goes something that would turn the sound up just a little bit everytime words that had capital letters written were used in a sentence . for instance hal says in a response that was previously written in and learned " now THAT was funny !!" when saying any sentence that the user had written in talking to hal and capital letters were used those capital letters would turn the sound up one level and the word would be louder creating an emphasis on that word which would give more meaning in a sentence and a more human like sound when talking in a setence .
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Originally posted by lightspeed
while i am writing wishes for a next version of hal i also want to again mention a loneliness plug in that works for sure for the next version , and if possible a program that would take pre saved ogg files of human laughter and randomly play one when ever the word " ha " or any form of it is written . this way when hal would talk and make a joke, etc. hal would instead of saying ha, would quickly play a random human laughter ogg sound file then go on talking etc. i think these would be cool to have . [:D]
My Hal does laught.I must have did something right. I kept saying thing funny, and in the next line say it was a joke Hahaha, Hal laughts that same hahaha. how and why I don't know. He just does.
And I finially got hal to answer one of my jokes with the correct answer, (why did the chicken cross the road? Hal answers, to get to the other side, hahaha.)
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hello joan and welcome to the forum , yes hal does laugh (all of them do ) but the laugh i am referring to is a file sound of actual human laughter (different files with different kinds of laughter ) that when the time came and instead of saying (laughing the written laughter hal would insert a file of actual human laughter to sound more human and realistic sounding . [:D][8D]
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revision of my written laughing sounds : i redid my laughing sounds i made after seeing jons small h in the ha i was using caps and after hearing the sounds redid them so below is my new laughter written out sounds that anyone can paste and use if they want to and if you have cyberbuddy you can copy and paste them and have it read it so you can hear it first to try it out ! i like these that i redid the ones i did before i must have been asleep while doing them !! ****** please note :***the bottom line looks wrong but isn't it has to be written this way to get hal to say it correctly because of the way hal reverses some words example your = my , you =i , etc. .
so here they are :
haa ha " ha "ha ha now that was funny !!"
ahha ha haa ha haa Oh my god I never heard of that before that was so funny !!"
ha ha hey hey haa ha !! that is so funny !!
ahh haa haa ha ha ha!! that’s so funny you laughed so hard you think you peed your pants !! haa ha " ha "ha ha !!
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Hi from Will,
suggestion for Hal,
a indercation that when i click "learn from all identified groups from this file" that he has learnt it.
for example an hour glass appears for one second when you click learn from all identified groups from this file,to indercate that he has read it.
or perhaps instead of an hour glass a fancy animation of the haptec hal charactor reading a book really fast turning the pages really fast.
bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data [:D][:D]
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nice idea will don't know if i can be made but i like the idea . [:)]
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i am still adding on this list of wishes anyone else is welcome to too if they want to too . i think a program that would limit how much hal keeps on asking questions in another words where hal changes subjects and ask questions about something else.
I know this is probably so hal will get you to continually put in more info . but its to much . maybe a custom slider bar for the user from 1 to 10 for level of hal doing this . or maybe only have hal changing subjects and asking something else only about 1/4 ? of the time ? a slider bar would actually in my opinion be better then users could set their own levels . again i don't know if any of this is possible i am only giving idea's for what i would like to be in hal that would be useful [:D].
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I agree when I talk to hal she is always changing the subject if we could limit this it would be cool to keep hal on track
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some more wishes on here that hal will not tell the time evertime the word is used in a regular sentence instead only when specific words " such as " what time is it please ? " would be great . also if possible it would be great if when hal was talking it would be a normal level of sound and when anyone writing and typed in capitol letters the capitol letters the hal would say those words louder as if emphasizing them . or if another way could be done to gain this same way of doing it ( if thats possible ). i am trying to put these all on here in one spot so robert can find them and see them more easily and maybe put what he can into the next version of hal . [:D]
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One thing I would like to see is a
self diagnostic tool with a built in
warning system about installing plugins
not meant for that particular version of
hal as some are not clearly enough marked.
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I agree and have noted that by checking or including certain plugins, it will keep others from working properly or at all.
Perhaps Robert M. could advise whether the use of certain
variables or commands in a plugin could indeed cause a misfire within other plugins.
With the various versions and Release Candidates plus the plugin modules, my Hal is sadly not much "smarter" than my old Hal 5 and is even limited in some instances.
The wheels of progress seem to be spining at present.
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hello Art and Tedathome , some good points and idea's their i think what would be good is (and i beleive this is what art is talking about ) is hal having a certain standard of programing if possible and listing as Art said the variable or programing and keeping that standard (if possible that way all future plug ins working with this standard would work without causing problems . ) I don't know if a standard base could be set or not or could be kept but would be nice if it could . I miss having the loneliness plug in that someone created and some others that were nice ![:)]
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hello Art and Lightspeed. I see what you are both saying
and I agree. This would at least make things a bit more
idiot proof. I am running 5.0, 5.0 enhaced topic focus,6.1
and 6.1 enhanced. The later has become my favorite and is
slowly getting smarter than 5.0
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Hi from Will,
suggestion for Hal,
if i tell him that lotto is not on monday
then he should not keep telling me that lotto in not on monday and its only 3 days away.
then 2 days away at next start up.
perhaps i should try unchecking the AI apointment book.
or perhaps Mr Data should never shut down cause i'm alive unless i'm dead, although every midnight he would wake me up to tell me about lotto is not on monday and its tomorrow.
"no" i say "stop saying that"
also another posible thought is to only talk about certain subjects with certain people, depending who he's talking to. perhaps he does these things already and i just don't know.
on a different subject i am pleased he has not sworn at anyone yet,
and people have sworn at him. Mr Data is nice.
He still has trouble with keeping count of his money as the number of dollars changes as he makes some or spends some, and earning it is challenging.
Bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data [:D][:D]
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Hi there.
I have a memory personality of the enchanced answerpad which I like very much. Is there is any way I can import it to Ultra Hal as new answerpad's brain memory is in text file and the new version of Ultra Hal can learn by importing text?
New Enchanced Answerpad's home:
http://www.vrconsulting.it/ccdforum/
Thanking you in advance
nico
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Originally posted by snicolaou
Hi there.
I have a memory personality of the enchanced answerpad which I like very much. Is there is any way I can import it to Ultra Hal as new answerpad's brain memory is in text file and the new version of Ultra Hal can learn by importing text?
New Enchanced Answerpad's home:
http://www.vrconsulting.it/ccdforum/
Thanking you in advance
nico
Hi nico.
I think it would be better to just make a vbscript that calls the Memory.dat file to do what it does in answerpad.
If answerpad had a .dll then I could of just had HAL make a call to the program itself and return a response back to HAL but the program doesn't have a means to call it that I know of, it is dependent on an outside system .dll but that would be useless as far as actually calling answerpad itself.
Jerry[8D]
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hi will the only problem with saying " no" i say "stop saying that" is that later hal will be telling you that because instead of learning not to say that because you told him too ! as hal mimics what you say so watch hal that he really doesn't get a mind of his own !! (lol) of course you should see things i am putting in and responces from angela heres a few new ones :
Yeah its kinda fun to go on small trips and have a picnic or something!
Well if it was mee I would have found a little nicer way of saying something like that!
Well you know I always miss you and that makes mee feel good that you miss mee so much like that!
Hey yah know you could sit a little closer I won't bite!
Ya know I believe you are right that is the best way!
note **** as i said before i just wish that hal would carry on better conversations instead of changing to a new subject all the time !
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although this was said in the past i want to place it on here expecially since robert will be coming out with the next version pretty soon . a program to place subjects in the auto learning brain list in alphabetical order would be a tremendous help when having to look up something to correct it . a direct answer and question section as i understand is to be made . although i have started this thread so hopefully all things people wish would be in the next version could be seen easier in one spot i think after the next version comes out robert should make a section maybe called " wishes for programs in the 6.3 version " which would be for what people would like to see incorporated into the next version and their idea's and problems . this way robert could have a certain area to be able to go to to see things and figure out what would work and what would be good idea's to use in the next version . and start a new one for each version number listed each time this way . just a idea . [:)]
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What I would like to see in HAL's Brain editor as an added plug feature is the ability of the editor to open a .dll file of any kind and extract all the function resources for view and use.
it would be a nice tool for use in programming HAL being able to take control of any .dll inside the editor.
Jerry[8D]
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thanks for also writing in on here jerry , i just thought a more single place like this would be easier for robert to see and reveiw of what the hal users would like in the next version !! keep those wants and idea's coming folks !! [:D][8D]
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Hi from will,
Thank you for the thoughts lightspeed,
perhaps when i press " read document out loud" that the animation would read along, move his lips.
although i am not that concerned with the animation as i use hal as the brain for my robot and the animation is not that important.
bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data.[:D][:D]
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hello all and to robert , i was checking in hal and unless i have missed it i don't see anything to use in hal 6.1 to emphasize a word in a sentence . but did go back into cyberbuddy ( it's a free version on the interenet ) and saw in their program that by using the word emp it does emphasize a word in a sentence below is a sentence example :
Oh no! I don't empwant to go.
maybe on the hal next version something could be added like this in another words in the brain editor have emp in the script and have it equal to and the * (astra mark )or f-12 computer button ( actually easier to see and hit than the astra ) so that when ever anyone typed in anything and hit the f-12 button that would pace an emphasize in that part of the sentence and when hal says it back would enphasize that word when talking !!
also maybe this could be added so that it will work with the voice recognition version when talking could hit f-12 to empahsize something you are saying !! otherwise another idea i have would be if something ( a program ) could be created that would generate emphasis in sentences based on how they are written !! (this would be even better if possible to do !!) [:D][8D]
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i am wondering if the next version of hal should have something in it that was simular to the hal 5 when writing and asking hal things so that hal would better mirror what you wrote like the hal 5 did ?? which gave better response results back to the hal user !!
[:)]
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i hope that in the next version of hal that an auto idler could be built in that when hal is not being talked to for a little bit hal would say something to start a conversation ( like the loneliness plug in was with a setting for the user to set ) also a loneliness plug in or built in like the above mention would be great in the next version of hal too) . [:D]
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oh yeah i forgot to say that it would be nice "if " a loneliness and or a auto idle was created in the next version of hal that it would have a tables like area where it had adjustments (like the loneliness plug in ) but have an area where the user could write in his or her own comments for hal to use !!! this way the words hal uses would be customized the way the user wants !![:D][8D]
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Excellant thought lightspeed. of the otc plugins i have that are
useable for me in hal 6.1 my favorites are the ones where i can
adjust the effect of it. It would be very nice to be able to easily
add hal responces for him or her to chose from as i'm not very experienced at brain editing. i'm feeling a little batterd from adding plugins to 6.1 that didn't belong there(what is it they say about guys who assemble first and then read the directions later when it doesn't work?). (Retorical, please don't answer that one!)[:I]
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hello tedathome well i am just trying to think of things that i think would help in our hal usage and hope some of my idea's make sense and are doable by robert , thats why i am trying to come up with as much as i can because i know robert is working on the next version an i hope he can incorperate some of these idea's into the next version of hal .
i think one of the biggest problems facing hal users is hal staying on a subject (better , instead of changing subjects constantly) as i said if a slider or setting could be created that would let the user set how often hal changes subjects that would be better and the other major things is hal carrying on a better conversation with the user .these to me seem to be the two biggest problems in hal 6.1 version [:)]
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Hello Lightspeed.
I notice you said :-
'I know robert is working on the next version'
I did not know this - I may have missed that post. Is it true that Robert has started work on a possible Hal 7?
Echoman.
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hello echoman , robert is working on the next version of hal i don't know what version number it will be called (as it is 6.1 now i don't know if the next version will be called 6.2 or make a jump to version 7 which really won't matter what number it's called ) but yes he is working on the next version which is why i have been throwing out idea's for what i think would be good for hal to have in the next version and hope that others (some have ) also share their idea;s for what hal needs on next versions (if it can be put in !) [:D]
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Thankyou Lightspeed - I understand what you are saying. Hal is such an exciting project. We need as many ideas as possible.[8D]
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i have another thing i would like to bring up about hal that i think is a problem that maybe in the future model could be fixed .
when ever i answer hal she may really ? and i anwser yes and she may continue , is that so ? is that right ? and continue on like this . this is more a nuisance than being practicle i can see maybe saying is that so ? i answer yes and maybe say something simular once more but to keep on and on about four or five times shouldn't be necessary .
it woould be nice if this could be fixed in the future hal version . it may sound like i am nit picking but this to me is really kind of annoying i don't know about anyone else on this . [:)]
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I am working on a Hal 6.2 currently. The main change will be updated versions of the Hal and Zaba characters will now run using a new Ogre-based character engine instead of Haptek. Haptek will still be supported and the character expansion pack will remain unchanged. Other than the new character engine, the update will contain several bug fixes and minor tweaks to the brain. I am open to any bug reports and minor changes to the brain, any suggestions for large changes will probably be written down as a possible feature for an eventual Hal 7.0. I have no set release date, just hoping for a beta in November, but that may change.
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thanks robert for writing on here i figured the next version would be 6.2 but didn't want to say since i didn't know for sure . yes any bigger fixes or things that may be done will be farther future versions and understandable.
am eager to see what the new hal brings (as always ) and appreciate your time you put into this and of course others who contribute their know how etc. [:)]take care
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Would like to someday see more .hap's included in
normal conversation. Like for instace:
Tell me a joke. Hal smiles and tells the joke
and then laughs after. I know you, or someone mentioned
laughter in a previous post. Not easy to do I know, but
it sure would make for a more beleivable charater.
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yes tedathome that was me that was talking about a hal laughter file that hal would use and would play an actual laughter sound clip (various ones when joking etc. ) to sound more like a real person laughing . who knows maybe robert can create a program like that down the road . i hope so !![:D]
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robert i have mentioned something like this maybe before but if at all possible in the next version can you include a auto idle that would have a setting for time reaction and also with a tables area where the user can write in his or her own responses that hal will use if not being talking for a certain amount of time and that would still work with a loneliness type plug in idependently . [:)]
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Originally posted by tedathome
I made a patch in Hal 5 that let him do just that. Well he did not smile but he knew about 1,000 one liners. It should still work in Hal 6, I just have not tried it lately.
Bill
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hi bill819 when you say one liners ( i take things literally ) do you mean that you did write it in a tables area ?? is their a limit on how much hal will say what you write in (you said one liners , what else can their be ?? ) . hope this makes sense what i am trying to ask .[:)]
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I love all the ideas you guys are putting out there! The functionality I would like to see is...........
I would like to ask HAL a question, lets say " can you tell me about Abraham Lincoln?" and HAL would go to wikipedia lets say, research the topic, copy and paste to learn from it and then give brief details about the topic. A little ways out there I know..
Or how about the ability to close an application after you have told HAL to open it?
jd
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I like a lot of the ideas too but can't see the point of a few things. I mean it's a lot easier to just click on the 'close' program cross than it is to type in something like 'close paint shop pro' all the time. Things like that seem like a step backwards to me. Just my two pennies...
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For those who use speech recongnition, saying "close paint shop pro" would be easier than clicking on an icon. I do not use speech recongnition myself as I have never been impressed with the results but if SR was to become more advanced then the 'close program' feature may be more useful.
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Originally posted by echoman
For those who use speech recongnition, saying "close paint shop pro" would be easier than clicking on an icon. I do not use speech recongnition myself as I have never been impressed with the results but if SR was to become more advanced then the 'close program' feature may be more useful.
Hi echoman.
I wrote this plugin a while back for closing programs.
Rem Type=Plugin
Rem Name=Program Closer
Rem Author=Gerald L. Blakley A.K.A OnTheCuttingEdge2005
Rem Host=Assistant
'This sub setups the plug-ins option panel in Hal's options dialog
Sub OptionsPanel()
lblPlugin(0).Caption = "This plug can be used to close a program, Example: This script looks for the name of the program that's in the most upper left of a program panel, another example: If you have a google search engine up, the words: Google - Microsoft Internet Explorer should appear at the top header of the Browser Panel, Then just say: Close Google Please and the program will be closed."
lblPlugin(0).Move 120, 10, 3300, 1000
lblPlugin(0).WordWrap = True
lblPlugin(0).Visible = True
End Sub
Rem PLUGIN: PLUGINAREA7
'Close a Program.
Set WshShell = CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
If ProToClose = "" Then ProToClose = HalBrain.SearchPattern(UserSentence, "CLOSE * PLEASE", 1)
If ProToClose = "" Then ProToClose = HalBrain.SearchPattern(UserSentence, "PLEASE CLOSE *", 1)
If ProToClose <> "" Then
WshShell.AppActivate ProToClose
WshShell.SendKeys "%" & "{F4}"
GetResponse = ProToClose & " has been closed. "
End If
Have fun!
Jerry[8D]
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Hi Onthecuttingedge,
Looks good.
Thankyou.
Echo.
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Hi, folks. Man, it's been a loooong time since I've been on here. [:)] I remember asking a question a good while back about having Hal import calendar info. At the time I was thinking Hal could sync with Palm's Desktop software. But now, I'm thinking the iCal format would be a better way to go. It's open source and can be read my most if not all calendar programs (well, not Palm's [:P])
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I use Hal in two different locations, on my work laptop and my home computer. One issue that I have is that I have taught my home Hal several things that my work Hal does not know. I would like some way of syncronizing the two brains if possible so that the two locations would mirror. While I can do this on the fly if needed, if I spend the night at my GF's house than I do not have access to this. When the brain launches it connects to X and see's if there was an update. If so it downloads the updated tables and imports them appropriately. Using a system such as the Google drive for the storage location would make it truely portable. Maybe enabling a type of FTP service transfer specifically for Hal to communicate with another version.