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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: raybe on April 30, 2010, 03:40:54 pm
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I'm just going to post this one more time out of curiosity. It probably doesn't matter to most but I'm sure new members might just hesitate.WOT is an add in for some open source browsers like Firefox and now I believe Chrome or Opera. WOT rates the site to be a safe site to visit or not. I use Firefox and the WOT plugin but Zabaware comes up with a poor rating. Does anyone know why or care about this subject? Just checking if anyone feels this is an accurate rating or should something be done?
raybe
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could it be because we post code and scripting on here to others to show our work, etc. and so it is perceived by browsers and others as crack, hacks, and thusforth potentially "making" the site appear as if its a dangerouse site to visit??
thats my only thoughts i could think of , anyone else have any thoughts on it??
[;)]
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Thanks for the reply lightspeed but I even noticed on 'Virtual Humans' web site they get a good rating and talk about posting different scripting and anything else you can imagine for AI development it sure doesn't effect that site at all and many of the members are frequent visitors or members on this site. Like I said I don't know if people really care or really pay any attention to such a rating but I am curious after being on this site for many years.
raybe
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Correct me if I am wrong but after looking at the WOT site, it appears that it is the users that rate a site. That would mean things like programming code would probably not make a difference.
I guess it could be disgruntled users.
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disgruntled users.???[B)] why, we'll kick their butts !!![:D]
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Freddy, I believe you are correct that ratings from people that had a good or bad experience with the site create the ratings. Thinking about it your probably right because there are times people don't understand the product or Robert and other members don't respond to them in 20 seconds. 'Virtual Humans' is more of a forum although there are members that develop AI programs unrelated to the site. Thanks just seemed so wrong to give this site a bad rating and I have sent WOT my own rating.
lightspeed, go get them and if there are too many I'll be right behind you.(lol)Thanks guys.
raybe
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Yes, let's do it !!!
They are idiots. [;)]
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Yeah well, you know what the net can be like sometimes, like you say some people want instant five second fixes and sometimes that just isn't possible.
As for my experience on this site, the only problem I had was a couple of years ago when someone hacked the forum here, but after I alerted Robert he pretty much fixed it straight away. So to me the site is a safe one.
Incidentally, I use AVG anti-virus and they have a safe search feature that warns you about sites, and I also have Google Chrome warning me about dodgy sites too. And neither of these has ever said there is any thing wrong with Zabaware.
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You know maybe robert should check further into this as , whatever this is could be keeping people that might be interested in the hal forum from coming to it .
Of course that parts up to Robert to do ![:)]
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Freddy I have Chrome also and don't remember how it sets itself up for safe sites but that's good to know. Also AVG not having problems with the rating of the site. Just concerned me as lightspeed said I was hoping that the WOT signature for this site did not stop anyone from taking a look.
Thanks
raybe
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Well I don't get many warnings from Chrome, but what usually happens is the screen goes red and it gives you a warning about the site - you can then either 'go back to safety' or continue into the site.
Personally if I get that warning I don't go into the site. So yes I think you two are right, it could certainly impact visitors. I guess Rob has to assess this and figure something out if he wants to.
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When Roberts launches the new web site will that give Zabaware a nice clean history with WOT?
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When Roberts launches the new web site will that give Zabaware a nice clean history with WOT?
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Depends on how WOT refers to a site - if it works on the domain name then possibly not - however if it works using individual URL's then possibly yes.
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Hi Freddy, I tried going to the new forum site and yes WOT still gives Zabaware a poor rating. I know the site isn't totally finished but I don't believe it will change anything. It just annoys the heck out of me because it has come up with other people if I send them to the site and they will call just to check if Zabaware forum and purchases are safe. I guess enough people use WOT.
raybe
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Well it must be just domain name then, I guess it's a blanket effect and any links on the Zabaware domain will be alerted.
I had not come across WOT myself before, as you say a lot of people must use it. I would imagine there is some way for webmasters to get their sites off the black list though if mistakes have been made etc.
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I'm using Norton 360, I'd say it is the best I've used, the results I got are:
zabaware.com
Summary
Norton Safe Web found no issues with this site.
•Computer Threats: 0
•Identity Threats: 0
•Annoyance factors: 0
Total threats on this site: 0
•Community Reviews: 0
The Norton rating is a result of Symantec's automated analysis system. Learn more.
The opinions of our users are reflected separately in the community rating on the right.
General Info
Web Site Location United States of America
Norton Safe Web has analyzed zabaware.com for safety and security problems.
Threat Report
Total threats found: 0
Viruses (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Drive-By Downloads (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Malicious Downloads (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Worms (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Suspicious Applications (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Suspicious Browser Changes (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Security Risks (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Heuristic Viruses (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Adware (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Trojans (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Phishing Attacks (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Spyware (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Backdoors (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Remote Access Software (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Information Stealers (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Dialers (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Downloaders (what's this?) Threats found: 0
Now to find WOT.
Carl2
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This is what I got from Wot:
Trustworthiness 55
Vendor reliability 65
Privacy 64
Child Safety 66
You need the Pro version to get more info.
The rating could be better so I'll use Nortons and not get upset about it.
Carl2
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Unfortunately Carl2 it's a Norton Product. That automated ratings comes from their analysis system? Sorry but a little bit more partial to an open source rating then Norton. As Freddy also mentioned Chrome will red flag the site as well. I never worry about the good stuff and I don't like to dwell on the negative but it just makes me wonder why.
Didn't mean to knock Norton 360 but they are just another company that makes me wonder why sometimes.
raybe
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Don't know if anyone else is like me but I used to find WOT so anoying that I disabled it in the end. It seemed that so many sites were a 'threat' that it made surfing pointless. I remember quite a few sites that I had visited for many years flagged up on WOT. I found it pretty inacurate and irritating. I cannot imagine many people taking much notice of it. But its wide spread use is still a threat to Zabaware and should be taken seriously.
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I think most of these web advisers are flawed in one way or another. Now especially that all anti virus type programs have no way of keeping up with creative ways we get infected. But the one common thing is if you have or get any type of warning from even those sites you trust these rating advisers do make you think twice especially after reading all the hype about infected web pages these days. So to 'echoman' I agree that these things need to be taken seriously. Maybe inquiring about the Zabaware site to one service at a time like WOT can lead to better answers especially if it is just a single site you frequent often like this one. Just a thought. again I know that many people may not even care and just use a rating system that says the site is okay. There is still a chance it is misinformed or hasn't been told that there has been any problems so people won't second guess the site. Not intentionally trying to spread infections but just as Zabaware has had one problem that was repaired I'm confident that other sites have encountered the same problems. I'm not trying to be an alarmist just looking at the picture as it stands today. I think we all know enough about the internet and if you don't like it then don't use it.
raybe
raybe