Thanks for answering, i have things in txt file formatt but when its open their is nothing at the bottom , what format is yours in (something other than txt?) can you show me an illistration example of how it shows at the bottom, if i can get mine to doing that it may make some things easier , lol thats what threw me before when you would say on line so and so , i thought you was doing something through the brain editor, etc. thats why our stuff didn't match up when i was showing you earlier !