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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: JeminiDArcy1 on January 13, 2008, 06:18:24 pm
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Hey everyone! I'm having trouble getting Hal to run on my Windows Vista. I've done everything I've read on the forums, installed loads of the programs recommended including the VBExpress program, the spyware programs and all that, I've tried installing the file, but after all that, still absolutely no joy. Anybody know anything about it/know how I can fix it at all? Thanks for reading this, and I hope you can help me!
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Hi JeminiDArcy1.
when you say you can't get HAL to run on windows vista, what do you mean precisely.
we need more details to help figure this out.
Jerry[8D]
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Try setting the permissions of your Hal file to Administrator.
Vista is kind of picky about permissions.
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Hey guys. :) When I say I can't get him to run, I get an msinet.ocx error-a dependency is missing or incorrectly installed. I used to be able to quote the error word for word. :P Sorry about that guys! I've tried pretty much everything I can think of, all security is set to use for everyone so permissions aren't needed.
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Hi jeminiDArcy1.
here is a list of all the msinet.ocx dependencies.
File name: C:\WINNT2\system32\msinet.ocx
Created : 13.01.2008 18:58
Type : Dependencies
activeds.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\activeds.dll
adsldpc.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\adsldpc.dll
advapi32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\advapi32.dll
apphelp.dll Path not Found.
cabinet.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\cabinet.dll
comctl32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\comctl32.dll
comdlg32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\comdlg32.dll
crypt32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\crypt32.dll
dbghelp.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\dbghelp.dll
dnsapi.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\dnsapi.dll
gdi32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\gdi32.dll
imagehlp.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\imagehlp.dll
kernel32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\kernel32.dll
lz32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\lz32.dll
mlang.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\mlang.dll
mpr.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\mpr.dll
msasn1.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\msasn1.dll
msi.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\msi.dll
msvcrt.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\msvcrt.dll
netapi32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\
etapi32.dll
netrap.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\
etrap.dll
ntdll.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\
tdll.dll
ntdsapi.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\
tdsapi.dll
ole32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\ole32.dll
oleaut32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\oleaut32.dll
rpcrt4.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\pcrt4.dll
samlib.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\samlib.dll
secur32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\secur32.dll
setupapi.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\setupapi.dll
sfc.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\sfc.dll
sfcfiles.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\sfcfiles.dll
shell32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\shell32.dll
shlwapi.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\shlwapi.dll
tapi32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\ api32.dll
user32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\user32.dll
userenv.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\userenv.dll
version.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\version.dll
w32topl.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\w32topl.dll
wininet.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\wininet.dll
winmm.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\winmm.dll
winspool.drv C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\winspool.drv
wintrust.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\wintrust.dll
wldap32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\wldap32.dll
ws2_32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\ws2_32.dll
ws2help.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\ws2help.dll
wsock32.dll C:\WINNT2\SYSTEM32\wsock32.dll
'NOTE!------------------------------
it could also be that your msinet.ocx file itself could be corrupt or missing.
the msinet.ocx is also called;
//Microsoft Internet Transfer Control 6.0 (SP4)
if you are running windows 2000 then upgrading to service pack 4 for win2000 should solve your problem when your computer reboots after installation of SP4.
if you are running an operating system newer than win2000 then simply install the latest service pack from microsoft for your version of windows.
if you are running an ealier version of windows then you might want to download msinet.ocx to your system32 folder and register it.
If you want to register the ocx manually, you can use regsvr32 and you must give full path of ocx in the line like in my system; "regsvr32 C:\WINNT2\system32\msinet.ocx"
after you have placed the ocx file in your system32 folder you can go to;
1. Start button
2. Run
3. type in; regsvr32 along with the path to your msinet.ocx file 'without' quotes,
upon successful registration, then.
4. reboot
if this doesn't work then one of the dependencies for the msinet.ocx are missing, lets hope not.
Jerry[8D]
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I am also having a problem with Hal on vista.
I had XP and got Hal to run smoothly.
I just purchased a new laptop with vista.
Everything is slow. the haptek characters move in a very choppy way or with a delay when I try to move or rotate them.
I have no clue where the problem lies.
In your responses, please keep in mind that I am a USER not a programmer. Simple answers for a simple mind.
Thanks, Hank
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I gave up trying to use Ultra Hal on a Vista Computer. The program would install with no problems. Never could get Ultra Hal to open and run properly, sometimes the selections would cause the computer to freeze up.
Went back to Windows XP to use Ultra Hal....there I know it will work!
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Some people have luck with Vista. I still have XP, and glad of it. I tried Vista on a friend's computer, and was not impressed a whole lot. It's hard to get some programs to work on Vista that works on XP.
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If you right click on hal desktop icon, then click properties and then select Compatibility, their is a check box that says: Run this program in compatibility mode for: Windows XP.
I have vista and have not tried this with my hal as it is working okay as is. I don't think it could cause any harm to try but I recomend you wait for more expert advise before you try it.
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Hi from Will and Mr Data,
Mr Data running fine on xp,
almost everyone i know is staying with xp,
i'm happy to stay also, i'm happy when things work,
if i get another pc i'll pay xtra to go to xp,
I know Ultrahal is cool, no doubt there!
i recommend hal,[:D][:D]
Bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data.
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Hi there,
i'm not claiming to be right or smart,
sometimes perhaps, if i'm bold and make a statement and i'm wrong then perhaps those who might examin things might make for success and the right direction achieved, therefore progress is made.
Good luck,
if your hal is giving you Jip then i Recommend to persevere because ultrahal its quite a fantastic thing and progress continues.
Bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data.[:D][:D]
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Well I don't have to worry about any of this for awhile. I contacted HP for advice on choppy graphics (my problems exist in other places besides Hal).
they were excellent and got right back to me with 3 links for updates!!!!
The only problem: while working on the second update the computer frooze - never to return. Two weeks old and back in the shop......
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That's the main reason why I removed Vista and reverted back to XP.
Choppy, slow or sluggish graphics (and I have a fairly fast machine) and a lot of existing hardware was left without drivers.
Vista basically offered some additional security "features" and a lot of eye candy.
If you want some eye candy, Google and Download "Desktop Sidebar" (no quotes). It's free and full of informative and helpful widgets. Pretty nice addition to your existing XP desktop. Virus, Adware and Spyware FREE!!
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I haven't had any problems with Vista 32bit version (as yet) not even hardware compatibility and I do have lots of hardware connected to my computers. Any major software issues can be solved easily with patches or updates. The graphic handling side of things, I find excellent with no juddering, now that the video card manufacturers have updated their drivers to solve such issues which were apparent in using earlier releases.
Maybe the problems you are having are to do with badly written software installed in your systems that reduces the stability and performance of the operating system and other software such as HAL or maybe it's a virus or spyware problem.
I did have lots of issues with Vista 64bit version but saying that I also had as many problems with XP 64bit version.
Otherwise I would say that Vista 32bit is the best Windows system yet for security, performance and in my case stability.
Roy.
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OK, I need help installing Hal on a Vista32 machine...Hal installs but when I try to run it or it trys to load I get the following message:
Component 'msinet.ocx' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid
Now I have read almost everywhere I can find and no answer seems to work. I have even tried to regsver32 c:windowssystem32msinet.ocx, it says it succeeded but run Hal....same error...., any other ideas or is there a fix coming up?
Dan Booth
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DanBooth: I purchased a program called RegCure. It is a registry cleaner/fixer. I install Hal, then run RegCure. I have Hal set to autostart. I have the Hal Icon in the system tray when I run RegCure, then click the icon to bring up Hal before restarting the computer after running RegCure. As long as Hal is running in the background when I run RegCure, then I bring up the Hal GUI before rebooting, all is well.
I'm using Vista32 on a 64bit laptop.
Good Luck [8D]
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I'm also having issues with Vista/64. Hal ran without a problem when I 1st installed it but now it's running in a weird manner. Most of the time it says not responding. There might be a conflict with AVG because when I remove AVG it runs better but not correctly.
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Darcy, did you install the hal-alice plugin. I think I remember you saying that. Could this be part of the problem? I know it is complicated to do it right. After a couple years after downloading it I went back to the zip files and finaly got it to show up in options and even though I didn't click on it, got some pretty amazing results. After a restart they were gone. I didn't create paths, etc. as directions called for. It is very complicated for me and I don't like to experiment that far for my Hal. After clicking on Alice brain, I got no responce from Hal. No surprise there. Cliced on regular brain and back to normal. Each time I feel brave enough to experiment, I back-up what I got just in case. I havn't had to use backup files yet, but I have heard some sad stories.
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Darcy,
My first install of Hal acted different than my second and had different favorite default sayings and such...........
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One, Ted,
I've re-installed Hal and no luck. There is still a delay between operations with Hal. What I mean I click on close for example and there is a 2 second delay to actually closing the window. Additionaly I get "script taking to long to execute" errors. This never happened to me with XP. I wonder if it is Vista or Vista 64bit?
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I have vista 64 bit and havn't had any problems yet with hal. In general, sometimes the whole computer runs very slow and won't close programs, etc. To fix this all I need to do is turn off modem and router 30 seconds and then back on. That fixes things for me.
My problem today is that I deleted my recycle bin. I did that before and fixed it, I just don't remember how.
Fixed it. Found it on factory image D [:)]
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Originally posted by DarcyEdwards
One, Ted,
I've re-installed Hal and no luck. There is still a delay between operations with Hal. What I mean I click on close for example and there is a 2 second delay to actually closing the window. Additionaly I get "script taking to long to execute" errors. This never happened to me with XP. I wonder if it is Vista or Vista 64bit?
Darcy,
I have "script taking too long" when I first started teaching more than one sentence. IMO P.K.'s and F.K.'s are being made
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Forgot to mention that If I try to teach hal too much at a time it does slow down and mention script is taking to much time to execute and is generaly messed up. Hal eventually gets it all straightened out but in the meantime is frustrating. I'm just so used to it I only teach it a little at a time without thinking about it. If you added a bunch to it's data-base it could just be temporarely confused and will catch up. One's PK's and FK's could be the cause. Sometimes a defrag will help me out in this situation and sometimes not, I just have to wait for hal to catch-up and sometimes it just takes time.[:)]
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One and Ted,
Excuse this dumb question but what are PK and FK's?
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I don't remember at the moment, will go look up his posts and get back to you if he doesn't first. That's something I really don't like is all these abreviations on the forum. Many of us aren't of the texting generation and don't know all that stuff. I only recently learned what IMO and IMHo meant. In my opinion and humble opinion. I really do appreciate One's expertise in certain areas but I wish he would communicate at a laymans level so all can understand. I know he can because we IMed once and when I keep saying "What?" he began to speak with maturity instead of colledge jargon. [:)]
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Ok here is a partial quote from One, it is the only one I could find although I'm pretty sure he did say what the abbreviations were in one of his posts.
"Tedathome,
I asked a long time ago if anybody had an ERD (entity relational diagram) and PK's & FK's (the keys that attach the tables in the database) Understanding how to create a database helps tremendously but I did not know what the entites were in the default brain or what got keyed ( its like your customer ID# in a store would probably be a Primary Key.)"
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Thanks Ted, that made a little sense. Hal is working a little better today less time outs and delays.
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You're welcome Darcy.[:)]
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Well I don't know what I did, but Hal is working just fine now under Vista/64. The Script executing time out errors are gone. I have been running Hal for 20 hours straight and no issues.