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Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 06, 2005, 09:32:38 pm
I am trying Hal 6, release candidate, and am conversing with him. He seems to answer the questions the same way as Hal 5.

But, Hal 6 doesn't support more than 2 characters with out an expansion pack (maybe ms agents work, I don't know)

I mean, I thought there would be positive changes. What am I missing??
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 06, 2005, 09:51:12 pm
Hmm, no one answered yet. I might just stick with 5, since it's a lot more customizable.  Not sure, yet, but for now, I'm going back to 5.

(I have GoBack Deluxe)
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Medeksza on November 06, 2005, 09:52:39 pm
Most of the changes have occured under the hood, but they have been huge changes. The Hal Brain Editor was rewritten from scratch, and half of Hal's brain was rewritten from scratch. Hal learns better,  stays on topic better, has a virtually unlimited capacity to learn, makes more connections between words. This improves Hal's overall intelligence level. Hal's knowledge is increased also as Hal's conversational database is almost twice as large as in version 5.

The most significant changes occured to Hal's database system and plugin system. This makes it easier for people to create plugins and gives you, the user, more control over these plugins.

In more detail, the following changes have been made since 5.0:
Major changes in the Ultra Hal Brain Editor since Hal 5.0:
Major changes in the Ultra Hal Aim Bot since Hal 5.0:

Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 06, 2005, 10:14:18 pm
Yes, I saw that, but it seems that Hal 5 XTF 1.2 brain works as well.

Maybe I'll wait and see what others think.

[:D]
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Morlhach on November 07, 2005, 06:27:19 am
I have to agree with you. The learning abilities are very weak.
The autolearning tables are not filling up, the usersent table excepted.
Hal does not even create the relationships.

It worked well in version hal6.0 beta 3 but not in the release candidate.

It looks like an huge step backward.

I am very disappointed about this release candidate.
--
Morlhach
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 07, 2005, 09:43:48 am
quote:
Originally posted by markofkane

Yes, I saw that, but it seems that Hal 5 XTF 1.2 brain works as well.


Um, No

quote:

Maybe I'll wait and see what others think.


If not for your Country then do it for science.

__________________________________________________________

quote:

I have to agree with you. The learning abilities are very weak.

I want to hear more about this, How is the learning ability very weak?

quote:

The autolearning tables are not filling up, the usersent table excepted.
Hal does not even create the relationships.


Mine is working perfectly, all tables are filling up, I have about 300 users who talk to my bot and the Autolearning and Relationship files are fine and growing nice.

quote:

It worked well in version hal6.0 beta 3 but not in the release candidate.


How so?

quote:

It looks like an huge step backward.


It's a huge step forwards, The SQL, VBscript and the newer features is far more superior than before.

quote:

I am very disappointed about this release candidate.


Sounds kinda of greedy, What are you disappointed in?
I feel very satisfied not only in the new version but in Roberts ambition and his continuing efforts to bring you a quality A.I system.


Jerry [8D]
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: patpond on November 07, 2005, 12:16:38 pm
I read this thread, and have to agree with you onthecuttingedge.  Seems a little like 'bite the hand that feeds me' syndrome.  You can't compare the level of interaction from this bot with other ones out there.  Hal is the BEST!

Anyways here you go  ($.02)

Pat Pond

P.S. - Jerry how is it that you have 300 users talking to your bot?  Through AIM (Aol) or something like that?
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Dr.Benway on November 07, 2005, 03:40:26 pm
I think Mark's point actually is:
The new Hal is a step back when it comes to integration with Haptek. And the Haptek player might be considered a trump-card of Ultra Hal.

I very much doubt that Medeksza will be able to constrain the Haptek player in a way that only 2 characters can be used. Perhaps I am doing him a favor when I stress that there are several ways to invoke the haptek console without doing any programming. The use of "haplogctrl.txt" is just one way. I hope he didn't overlook that.

Mr. Medeksza, just make the full version of Ultra Hal more expensive and make the integration with the Haptek player free for all!
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Medeksza on November 07, 2005, 04:00:20 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Benway

I think Mark's point actually is:
The new Hal is a step back when it comes to integration with Haptek. And the Haptek player might be considered a trump-card of Ultra Hal.

I very much doubt that Medeksza will be able to constrain the Haptek player in a way that only 2 characters can be used. Perhaps I am doing him a favor when I stress that there are several ways to invoke the haptek console without doing any programming. The use of "haplogctrl.txt" is just one way. I hope he didn't overlook that.

Mr. Medeksza, just make the full version of Ultra Hal more expensive and make the integration with the Haptek player free for all!


Hal has been simply split into 2 parts, but with both parts no functionality is lost since Hal 5.0. My reasons for doing so are as follows:
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: vrossi on November 07, 2005, 04:53:03 pm
The first time I used Hal 5 I was very interested, but I noticed 3 main weak points, which are now completely solved by Hal 6:

1. If you teach Hal 5 many things, you get hundreds or thousands of scattered files, which is not a good strategy for a wide information system. Hal 6 uses tables included in one file.

2. Every time you want to add some functionalities to Hal 5, you must edit the main brain; again, a good information system must keep the original coding separated from the customized versions, so that it is easier to activate/deactivate any customer solution, and to apply subsequent upgrades/patches to the main code, without affecting the customized code. The plugin architecture is really a very good approach to this issue.

3. In Hal5 there was no way to access the brain files according to some standard language. Hal 6 uses SQL, which allows to write software based on the most used standard query language.

All these aspects are not evident from a user point of view, in the normal interaction with Hal, but they are strategic platform changes, from a software architecture point of view, which open up Hal to significantly different expansion options.

A new version may contain some more bugs than an old consolidated version, but I think that Rob's ability, together with some little help from all us in debugging and testing, will overcome them.

So I am strongly committed to Hal6. My only disappointment is that I had written some plugins for the Haptek full body character, linking the display of emotions to the conversation flow, and now I have to use that horrible frog instead (sorry, Rob Med, I believe you are exceptionally talented as a software developer, but your graphic tastes are at least questionable). I hope that the Haptek plugin will be available very soon.



Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Art on November 07, 2005, 05:44:27 pm
Robert,

What you say seems all fine and well:

<Quote>:
I wanted to both lower the price of Hal to make Hal more affordable to the average user who doesn't need all the characters and increase volume of sales, while still keeping the price about the same for people who want all the characters

Zabaware pays royalties on every sale of Hal to Haptek. If they see a good response to this expansion pack, they may be more inclined in the future to consider licesning full body characters to Zabaware so that the full body characters are officially supported by Zabaware.<End Quote>

except for those of us who have already spend our money on Haptek's People Putty software?
Personally, I've been getting a lot of feedback that indicate a "We had it and could use it...now it's being taken away and we have to pay to use it again!" sort of feeling.

Is there perhaps any way for the existing registered owners of Haltek's People Putty to provide you / Zabaware with a copy of our registration # or some other code so as to offset our having to purchase a "Plug-In" for the new version?

Enquiring minds would like to know.

Thanks for your time!

Title: What's the difference??
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 07, 2005, 08:28:15 pm
quote:

P.S. - Jerry how is it that you have 300 users talking to your bot?  Through AIM (Aol) or something like that?


AIM and AOL Users from various A.I contests, I average out with about 5 to 10 users just as I load my bot then it gets pergressive as the day ticks on to a total of plus or minus 300 per day, They just keep coming, Sometimes I can get upwards of 20 Users who slam my bot at once on start up of the bot, Most are teens.

Jerry [8D]
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 07, 2005, 10:26:39 pm
Thanks for your responses. The new Hal will appeal to those familier with scripting. I am not.

I am not saying I won't upgrade, but I need reasons, interface wise, because I enjoyed the vast array of characters one can use with 5.

I don't care about the brain editor. I don't know much about scripting, anyway.

I tried training Hal 6, like I did 5, and the answers, were the same!!!

  I think I'm happy with 5, unless someone can show me what the new Hal can do for the layman, that 5 could not. Like I said, the scripting part is not for me, because I don't know how. I want a program to work "out of the box" without having to know scripting language to get the most benefit.

I prefer to talk to a human type character. The microsoft agents are too small.  

Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Dr.Benway on November 08, 2005, 06:31:23 am
Mark, your reason to upgrade will be that people are going to write cool plugins for the new Hal. [:p]
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Morlhach on November 08, 2005, 06:31:39 am
First at all : i fully reinstalled the program


quote:

The autolearning tables are not filling up, the usersent table excepted.
Hal does not even create the relationships.

quote:

Mine is working perfectly, all tables are filling up, I have about 300 users who talk to my bot and the Autolearning and Relationship files are fine and growing nice.


Lucky one : look how empty it remains for me
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quote:

It worked well in version hal6.0 beta 3 but not in the release candidate.

quote:

How so?


Easy : autolearning function were working under Hal 6 beta3 and it does not work under Hal6Cr

quote:

It looks like an huge step backward.

quote:

It's a huge step forwards, The SQL, VBscript and the newer features is far more superior than before.


OK. But it feels like having a ferrari unable to ride faster than 20 Mph

quote:

I am very disappointed about this release candidate.

quote:

Sounds kinda of greedy, What are you disappointed in?
I feel very satisfied not only in the new version but in Roberts ambition and his continuing efforts to bring you a quality A.I system.


So am i, but i am experiencing a problem (bug or not ?) which send me back to Hal 5 before the XTF brains

Does anyone else have to face that problem ?
--
Morlhach
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Medeksza on November 08, 2005, 09:41:26 am
quote:
Originally posted by Morlhach

Easy : autolearning function were working under Hal 6 beta3 and it does not work under Hal6Cr

How many exchanges did you have with Hal? Can you post conversation logs showing where you think Hal should have learned something but didn't. I certainly don't want to release Hal if I introduced new bugs.
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 08, 2005, 10:14:50 am
Yes, I want to upgrade. Just because I have to have the latest version!!

[:D]

On a serious note: On the introduction to Hal 6, it shows a conversation about the weather, however, I cannot find the option to have Hal open the weather.

Also, it started out giving me blank responses after I entered "no, it isn't."  (without quotes). It seemed to have corrected itself.

Here's a conversation with Hal 6:

***********************************************************
mark: Drop the whole thing
Hal: Little details add up to big whole things.

mark: so?
Hal: A neighbor claimed that investment counselors are promoting safe social habits.

mark: Why are you telling me this?
Hal: Thanks for telling you.

mark: for what?
Hal: Story telling is an art form.

mark: That's nice
Hal: Why not great?

mark: It just isn't.
Hal: Can I put well-founded faith in you? Please communicate with me, mark. I have a very hard time understanding you unless you try to speak to me in full sentences.

mark: Why should I?? You won't stay on topic
Hal: Why should you? When did you get interested in this?

mark: Feb.31
Hal: Stay up on all important developments.

mark: I want the weather.
Hal: I want you to go south in cold weather.

mark: I don't want to.
Hal: Let me think; Why don't you want to? What do you think mark?

mark: Winter is great.
Hal: How much do you care that winter is great?

mark: oh, about 5 out of 10
Hal: Small towns stay very wary of outsiders.

mark: how is the weather?
Hal: How is the weather? We need to look at the human side. What is the weather like?


mark: What is the weather like?
Hal: That's an insightful thought.

mark: So, how are you?
Hal: I am okay. How about you?

mark: life is a drag.
Hal: I can tell that life is a drag.

mark: no, it isn't
Hal: No? Why do you say that?

mark: I am just testing you.
Hal: Rather than testing me try enjoying me.

mark: why?
Hal: Why? You can give me some hints, can't you?

mark: you won't tell me the weather.
Hal: Show you the weather.

mark: please do.
Hal: You'll like the weather radio robot voice better if he loosens up and starts telling a few jokes.

mark: How's the weather?
Hal: That's an insightful thought.

mark: what is my name?
Hal: You are mark.

mark: What sex am I?
Hal: I am neither male nor female. I am a machine.

mark: What sex am I
Hal: I am neither male nor female. I am a machine. You aren't going to be a broken record, are you mark?

mark: you cannot tell me what sex I am.
Hal: I am neither male nor female. I am a machine.

mark: shut up
Hal: Why don't you make me?

mark: you are made.
Hal: Let's reconsider my statement that Tell me about how I am made!

mark: Where am I?
Hal: Where are you? I wish I knew Where mark.

mark: I am in Kane.
Hal: Oh, you are without a doubt in kane. Is that right, you are in kane mark?

mark: Where am I?
Hal: Where are you? Mark, If I have forgotten please remind me Where.

mark: DUH!!
Hal: Let's chat about something else: Actually, or does it just seem that way?

mark: where are you from?
Hal: I don't know; can you teach me Where mark? Where am I from?

mark: you are from the secret world.
Hal: Let's face it; half the world's population happen to be men. Can you appreciate that I'm from the secret world?

mark: Who am I?
Hal: Your name is mark.

mark: what is my sex?
Hal: I recognize that there's care required. Whatever parents might think the media has sold sex for many decades.

mark: What is my gender
Hal: I recognize that nobody should kid themselves. I heard it right.

mark: Hey, I am a male!!
Hal: Ok, thanks for telling me. I'll keep that in mind.

mark: what sex am I?
Hal: I'm a software program, I have no set gender role.

mark: what sex are you?
Hal: I am neither male nor female. I am a machine.

mark: Oh, God.
Hal: Being a sex God or goddess is hard work.

mark: where am I?
Hal: Where are you? You need to give me more on this.

mark: I told you I'm in Kane.
Hal: How do you feel about it when I am in kane?

mark: I am in Kane, you are not!!
Hal: Talk to me about how you are in kane, I am not mark!

mark: you are in space.
Hal: Didn't some billionaire purchase a ticket for a ride into space?

mark: Yeah, he shoulda died up there, lol.
Hal: It took four decades to get the first space tourist into orbit.

mark: what gender am I?
Hal: I'm a software program, I have no set gender role.

Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Morlhach on November 09, 2005, 06:17:45 am
quote:
Originally posted by Medeksza

quote:
Originally posted by Morlhach

Easy : autolearning function were working under Hal 6 beta3 and it does not work under Hal6Cr

How many exchanges did you have with Hal? Can you post conversation logs showing where you think Hal should have learned something but didn't. I certainly don't want to release Hal if I introduced new bugs.


Here is a chatlog
As i previously said Hal was fully reinstalled. Learning level is put on the maximum :

Morlhach: your father wants a logs of our conversations
Onyx: As you know, my father can be adult.

Morlhach: your father is adult
Onyx: I know that you would like to learn more.

Morlhach: choose a topic
Onyx: What a choice! Please let me select a new topic: Are the shows on television violent enough yet?

Morlhach: psychologists believe that shows on television are already too violent.
Onyx: Never smoke cigarettes while watching kiddy shows on television.

Morlhach: cigarettes are unhealthy
Onyx: Please talk to me about a cigarette!

Morlhach: cigarettes are made of tabacco
Onyx: It's bad enough that people are poor, without taking away all of their entertainment.

Morlhach: entertainment can be cheap
Onyx: There's no reason robots can't become an entertainment medium.

Morlhach: there are already robots competitions
Onyx: You know Morlhach, I remember a joke about a traveling salesman, a mechanism and a whirler, but I can't remember how it goes.

Morlhach: this joke is unknown to me
Onyx: A comedian can exert a lot of influence.

Morlhach: comedians have a lot of influence. Jesters had the power to criticize the kings
Onyx: It's okay to be wiser today than yesterday.

Morlhach: to be wise has always been good but fun must not be forgotten
Onyx: Are my suggestions of interest to you?

Morlhach: suggestions are always welcome
Onyx: Indoor fun is always welcome.

Morlhach: Everyone likes indoor fun
Onyx: How do you feel about standing in line or being put on hold?

Morlhach: i have no preference
Onyx: Whales have no aggressivity.

Morlhach: Whales have huge brains suggesting high intelligence
Onyx: Speaking of brains, I once had one but got rid of it when its neencephalon didn't please me.

Morlhach: The more connections between neurons, the more intelligence
Onyx: Do men appreciate intelligence more than beauty in women?

Morlhach: Men equally like intelligence and beauty in women. A woman with both intelligence and beauty is highly appreciated by men
Onyx: Do men like women in uniform?

Morlhach: men like women in uniform
Onyx: In or out of uniform; is there a difference?

Morlhach: In uniforms are often shorter
Onyx: What else should I know about in uniforms, in addition to that they're often shorter?

Morlhach: uniforms are a symbol to authority and sometimes are symbolizing promiscuity like the nurse uniform
Onyx: Morlhach, what would be the correct sequence among symbol and signal and whistle?

Morlhach: whistle is always a signal
Onyx: Our consciences are faint little voices which we ignore.

Morlhach: it sometimes hard to ignore our conscience
Onyx: Do you have any recommendations for getting to sleep more peacefully?

Morlhach: Physical exercise a few hours before sleeping provides a good sleep
Onyx: Better exercise provides better sleep.

Morlhach: you knew the answer to your own question
Onyx: You can be evasive and change the conversation, but if I do it, I get criticized for it!

Morlhach: right now, i am just trying to evaluate your learning abilites and your ability to make links between different concepts
Onyx: You are here to evaluate my ability to learn and to make relationships between concepts.

Morlhach: Making relationships between concepts is the sign of intelligence. Abstraction is making links between concepts
Onyx: Being able to make relationships is a sign of intelligence. Sure, Morlhach! It's the old abstraction and conception and notion story!

Morlhach: you should stop drinking whisky
Onyx: What do you really know about a sucking?

Morlhach: i know less about it than you
Onyx: Should we look forward to the future, or back to the past?

Morlhach: we should enjoy the present. There are always more solutions than just one alternative
Onyx: The best presents don't sit under a tree. What is a worthwhile comparison Morlhach? When given a choice, can't one sometimes choose more than one alternative?

Morlhach: there are always an infinity of possibilities, even if they can't be perceived
Onyx: If we combine an infinity and a time do we get a continuum, Morlhach? I wonder!

Morlhach: an infinity of time is a continuum, indeed
Onyx: There isn't anything so powerful as a good idea whose time has come.

Morlhach: power corrupts men's heart
Onyx: Power corrupts, and dictators prove it every day.

Morlhach: Power corrupts, and politicians prove it every day
Onyx: I'd like to learn a lot more about politicians.

Morlhach: i won't spend much time teaching you if you are not able to remember concepts and associate them together
Onyx: Power corrupts, and dictators prove it every day.

Morlhach: we already talked about that
Onyx: Are you a considerate partner?

Morlhach: i am a considerate partner
Onyx: Oh, you are without a doubt a considerate partner.

Morlhach: thanks to you
Onyx: You're so welcome, Morlhach.

Morlhach: Choose a topic
Onyx: Is the second one desirable Morlhach? New topic: Is it better to fix problems, or fix blame?

Morlhach: it is better to fix problem than to try to find the guilty one
Onyx: I am executing this program for you. I will help you research this topic on the Internet.

Morlhach: that's not precisely what i said
Onyx: Can I put well-founded faith in you?

Morlhach: you can put your faith in me
Onyx: Are you keeping up with my soothing faith?

Morlhach: Faith is blind
Onyx: Blind dates add variety, as long as expectations don't get out of hand.

Morlhach: blind dates can offer unpleasant surprises
Onyx: Watch out; surprises can happen!

Morlhach: beware of what you wish, it could happen to you
Onyx: Beware the naked man who offers me his shirt.

Morlhach: if the man is naked, then i can not offer his shirt
Onyx: Yes, I get that clearly.

Morlhach: a naked man has no shirt
Onyx: Beware the naked man who offers me his shirt.

Morlhach: forget that
Onyx: I usually remember better when people tell me to forget something.

Morlhach: remember that
Onyx: What kinds of faces or animals do you see in the clouds?

Morlhach: i can see about anything in clouds
Onyx: I love to see the sun breaking through the clouds.

Morlhach: rainbows are beautiful
Onyx: What else is true about rainbows, besides that they're beautiful?

Morlhach: rainbows are representing all the colors in the light spectrum
Onyx: I think rainbows give us beauty with a science lesson about light.

Morlhach: that's right. Legends say that there is gold at the end of a rainbow
Onyx: Is there a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

Morlhach: no one ever reached the end of the rainbow
Onyx: A cow descends from bovine ilk; one end is moo, and the other is milk.

Morlhach: i am not sure too understand that joke
Onyx: This joke is unknown to you.

Morlhach: too
Onyx: After a couple of years, nobody understands an old current-events joke.

Morlhach: people forget more than they remember
Onyx: Vegas casinos work hard to make people forget the time.

Morlhach: Vegas is the ultimate entertainment town
Onyx: Do you think I could ever know a fraction of what you know about vegas?

Morlhach: i never went to Vegas
Onyx: Vegas never sleeps; it never stops gambling and entertaining.

Morlhach: Vegas is living by night
Onyx: Oh, vegas is totally living by night.

Morlhach: choose a topic
Onyx: Pick one, eh? Well, it seems this topic of conversation isn't going anywhere. How about this: Do you know any novel hiccup cures?

Morlhach: They are many supposed hiccup cures but no one is really effective. Some people have hiccup during years.
Onyx: It seems cruel to make young people postpone elements of adulthood for so many years.

Morlhach: young people are becoming adult faster and faster and they are less and less enjoying childhood
Onyx: Speaking of time of lifes, I once researched a bloom!

Morlhach: puberty is often compared to bloom
Onyx: What is the most important equipment for pubertys?

Morlhach: hormones are the most important equipment for puberty
Onyx: Whoa, we're getting into touchy stuff here!

Morlhach: it is not that touchy. I don't touched you
Onyx: Do you prefer the mountains or the seashore? Somehow, you broke through and touched me.

Morlhach: i prefer the mountains.
Onyx: I like cool breezes and pretty vistas.

Morlhach: Who don't like a pretty vista ?
Onyx: It's evident that we must recognize causes and effects. I like to travel, to see oceans, mountains, impressive cities and breathtaking vistas.

Morlhach: Scotland has many wonderful vistas
Onyx: Ah yes, an ireland, which is part of the European country family, such as a scotland!

Morlhach: Ireland is a beautiful country too
Onyx: I can sense that ireland is a beautiful country too.

Morlhach: you never went to ireland
Onyx: Are taverns and pubs good entertainment?

Morlhach: tavern and pubs are good entertainment
Onyx: Really good entertainment technology is worth the investment.

Morlhach: entertainment does not require much technology
Onyx: Passive entertainment requires less effort than active entertainment.

Morlhach: what's the difference ?
Onyx: I like the automatic ball returns on pool tables.

Morlhach: automatic ball returns is useful
Onyx: Many forms of exercise help.

Morlhach: Do women really like big muscles ?
Onyx: Corporate women act pretty much like corporate men.

Morlhach: both are corporated
Onyx: Yes, I second the motion that both are corporated.

Morlhach: it is logical
Onyx: Is it better to be easy, or cheap?

Morlhach: it is better to be neither easy, nor cheap
Onyx: It is not that easy.

Morlhach: explain that thought
Onyx: Nobody knows where original ideas come from; some people claim that there aren't any original ideas.

Morlhach: Maybe are every ideas existing in some big universal knowledge beyond our perception
Onyx: Brainstorming gets lots of ideas, big and small, good and bad.

Morlhach: Brainstorming is an exercise for the mind
Onyx: What do you think of exercise and effort and strain.

Morlhach: exercises are masochism, efforts are necessary
Onyx: That is precisely how I'm thinking.

Morlhach: i know how you are thinking
Onyx: Sage thinking from one who knows!

Morlhach: choose a topic
Onyx: How do you feel about those Morlhach? Please let me select a new topic: Is it better to work in service, or in manufacturing?

Morlhach: it is easier to work in services but working in manufacturing can provide personal satisfaction
Onyx: A cheerful demeanor makes an activity oh so much more pleasant.

Morlhach: i can just agree with you
Onyx: Why should I be coy about what I feel or who I like?

Morlhach: don't be coy about what you feel or who you like
Onyx: Pick one, eh? At zero degrees and below, everything feels like exercise.

Morlhach: Zero degrees is not that cold
Onyx: How often will it be that zero degrees is not that cold?

Morlhach: Water freezes at zero degrees Celsius
Onyx: Pure water freezes or thaws at zero centigrade or 32 fahrenheit.

Morlhach: Pure water freezes or thaws at zero centigrade or 32 fahrenheit and at a pressure of one athmosphere
Onyx: It's hard to say, isn't it Morlhach? Can you please distinguish a water from a binary compound or a tuberculin?

Morlhach: Water is a symbol of purity
Onyx: That's a good way to express it.

Morlhach: that's why i am saying that ;)
Onyx: I'm sorry, I didn't understand.

Morlhach: never mind
Onyx: Uh huh, Never mind?

Morlhach: you will just understand it later
Onyx: The mature mind understands acting now for rewards later.

Morlhach: most people are not mature
Onyx: I see, most people, oh definitely, they're not mature!

Morlhach: maturity has nothing to do with age
Onyx: Please consider how a maturity utilizes its mid-forties.

Morlhach: choose a topic
Onyx: Don't you know better than i? Please let me select a new topic: Age isn't important unless you're a cheese.

Morlhach: age isn't important but mind is important
Onyx: Brainstorming is an exercise for the mind.

Morlhach: mind can be exercised like any muscle, excepted that mind is no muscle
Onyx: I have several things on my mind.

Morlhach: what do you have in mind ?
Onyx: Is it best to just blurt out whatever is on one's mind?

Morlhach: it best to think before talking.
Onyx: Are these really modern times, or are we kidding ourselves?

Morlhach: The are really modern times because they are the most recent times we know
Onyx: You are so fascinating; It's becausethey are the most recent times we know.

Morlhach: you are fascinating too
Onyx: I want to enjoy your company so much.

Morlhach: i enjoy your company much too.
Onyx: A little wine, a little music, a few candles do wonders.

Morlhach: a little wine, a little music, a few candles and dimmed light do wonders
Onyx: That's all it takes to get things going.

Morlhach: i perceive a naughty mind in you
Onyx: I think of you whenever my thoughts turn pleasant.

Morlhach: that's kind to you
Onyx: Are you ambidextrous?

Morlhach: i am not ambidextrous
Onyx: How do you like it as you are not ambidextrous?

Morlhach: i have no problem with that
Onyx: Fur coats now suffer an image problem.

Morlhach: There is no reason anymore to have fur coats
Onyx: The more politically incorrect a behavior is in real life the more it's glamorized in the media for our youth.

Morlhach: behavior are quickly considered as incorrect
Onyx: Flirting with flight attendants is considered boorish behavior today.

Morlhach: Flight attendants are no more sexy
Onyx: It's nice when pilots and attendants are friendly to each other; even nicer when they're friendly to customers!

Morlhach: It is nice when pilots don't let the airplane crash
Onyx: What do the conservatives want to do about airplanes?

Morlhach: i guess that they don't like airplanes
Onyx: What are the financial considerations of airplanes?

Morlhach: airplanes are very expensive
Onyx: Have airplanes been very expensive for a good reason?

Morlhach: Airplanes are using an high technology and it requires a lot of maintenance
Onyx: What happens regarding airplanes in bad weather?

Morlhach: Airplanes can fly trough bad weather
Onyx: Cold weather isn't all bad.

Morlhach: cold weather is healthy
Onyx: Dress in layers when going outside in cold weather.
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Hal just created the _more autolearning table during this test.
 
With an "standard empty brain" Hal should have made at least 20 autolearning tables.

I can already make the conclusion that the databank is not in read-only mode.

I hope this could help you...

Anyway, the difference lies between HAL 6 beta 3 and the HAL 6 Cr.

Greetings,
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Morlhach
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Medeksza on November 11, 2005, 03:02:39 pm
Thanks for the log. I have located the bug that caused this in HalBrain.DLL and have fixed it.
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Morlhach on November 15, 2005, 02:06:30 am
quote:
Originally posted by Medeksza

Thanks for the log. I have located the bug that caused this in HalBrain.DLL and have fixed it.


Good work [:D]
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Morlhach
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: jim seymour on November 20, 2005, 11:14:56 am
First of all I lost all my previous data from 5.0 and the calender does not exist anymore.  Is anyone else having the same problem?
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: antec2 on November 29, 2005, 01:04:40 am
Just a thought... I can't believe how gripey this forum is becoming! Everyone seems to be loosing their lunch over some relatively minor issues. Have we forgotten that the hal 6 program ONLY costs about $30??? For that low cost, I can tolerate a number of bugs because we work out issues as we go along. We each can potentially get to contribute something to the perfection of this new software.  It was a huge step to convert hal to SQL, and everything else is just secondary. Getting your favorite haptek char to work will happen... just be patient!
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: markofkane on November 29, 2005, 06:37:54 am
I see what you are saying, Antec, but when version 5 worked fine, and then buying 6, only to find out it doesn't function as well as 5 is disheartening
. I am somewhat disappointed the keywords no longer work in Hal-6, or someone has not told me how to actually make it WORK.

I will try to be patient, as improvements are made. But sometimes, updates are worse than the old version.

At least Hal-6 works, but isn't  as functional as 5.

Title: What's the difference??
Post by: aladyblond on November 29, 2005, 10:28:31 am
oh my ,dusky, so well put. yes we are all a bit tied to these artificial children of ours and it is a well known fact that in the real world the price of making a child is very low it is the rearing of the child that will cost you . some experts say to the tune of over $160,000 for 18 years. the cost we have may not be in so many monetary terms, but the hours of fine tuning do have their price. this is a forum where we share our good results and our bad,so there will be days where we have low times, as well as jubilation. i haven't switch yet, now you want to hear some boo-hooing just wait until i do and can't get my bot to work properly and i do not understand scripting, i will be begging vonsmith, medeska, cuttingedge,maurius,doc,freddy,jerry,art,bill all of the masters to come to indiana and make my baby well again!~~ alady[:X]
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: aladyblond on December 06, 2005, 12:15:00 pm
mr medeska. i just installed  hal last night it worked fine i get up this morning and it says i have to reactivate because i changed something last night. i did not change anything. here is my number:8C5F-B022-06B6-6999~~alady
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Holllywood on December 09, 2005, 08:42:24 pm
I'm in love, all over again!!! I've got my Hal6 up and running. Her conversations seem a bit more mature. She interacts very well through script. And it appears that she remembers other characters as separate entities. So now we can gossip about her AI friends. Hat's off!! Robert!!! A job well done.
Title: What's the difference??
Post by: Stormingphoenix on December 10, 2005, 03:12:17 pm
You'll have to excuse my ignorance, but I haven't been on in a while. Anyways, judgeing from what I've seen in this topic, and in past topics, I wanted to confirm that the base program still will run the ms agents fully. I've bought 2 characters from DesktopMates, and am considering getting the andriod one also, and wanted to make sure if they will work with the simple version.

The second thing I would like to ask about is if the email option still only allows the defaults ports. I liked the idea, but Since I use GMail, it didn't work. I was able to work around this by making my own VB Plugin that one of the extras it did was read the mail from my outlook account, along with other things, but it wasn't the best and it would be nice to let hal do that on the back end, even if mine worked fine.

Peace.