TO get back on topic as interesting as all this virus firewall and malware talk is....
Ok had to reinstall windows and everything is fine, been using yahoo messenger for some years now with no issues, I have also been using IE8 since the public beta was released.
Never had any problems with them at all, except as I pointed out speed issues with IE8, but I don't even notice it with the latest IE8 release.
I have reinstalled windows thankfully without having to format my PC as I have a tonne of file to backup and don't have any back up media on hand right now.
Ok I know people want to defend HAL and say say it's not HAL's fault and possibly it isn't. I'm just trying to use a bit of logic, and well sure Robert is no doubt a good programmer, but then again so was Bill Gates and look at the flak he's copped over the years, and some would say "with good reason" yet other times it's unfounded, mean look at how easily opeople got into flaming MS here (attacking MS is easy to do these days for bno other reason as it's just what we nerds do [xx(])
I'll put it this way, and use MS as an example, THere is a lot of software out there that runs fine on say "98% of computers.
But then you might have the other 2% of users that the same software could trash their system, you contact the company and they usually say "thanks for reporting that bug we'll look into" not usually "oh no it can't be our program doing it"
I am trying to keep an open mind here stating it may or may not be HAL where I get the feeling some here are just blind to that option unless I staple some sort of facts to back it up to their head.
(which I would gladly do if I knew what to look for error wise)
Now windows for example has millions upon millions of people using it, and each one of those computers is different, you can have 2 identical computers but they may have totally different software setups depending on who's using it, so John A's Crumpaq Assolio X5 might crash on him where as John B's Crumpaq Assolio X5 Runs fine.
Both John A and John B have both installed UltraHal, John A thinks it's HAL killing his system, but John B says "NO NO NO, HAL runs fine on my computer so IT MUST RUN FINE FOR YOU" but unknown to both of them is that ultraHAL's registery entries have some how interferred with John A's "Porn Downloader 5000" program in a way not considered by the programmers so a one in a million error occurs. And as John B doesn't own "Porn Downloader 5000" he doesn't get the error, so he blames it on everything but his "favourite" software.
This is why companies have beta testing, support and feedback options really. Most people I know are general every day PC users they don't push their systems so for them Microsoft is great they can't see why some people bitch about Windows Millenium as it's always worked fine for them, as an example. Then you get extreme gamers who push their systems beyond what they were designed to do, discover flaws most wouldn't see from it then bitch about how it's "Typical Microsoft flame flame flame"
THen there are those who just bitch about MS cos "everyone else is doing it"
I hope you understand what I am getting at?
For all we know my computer and software setup might have allowed HAL to create an error that nobody else has encountered, or that anyone else could replicate. But the response shouldn't automatically be "IT IS HAL", or "IT CAN'T BE HAL it's all MS's fault"
It's not how software design should work, and comes off being the same as putting ones hands over ears and going "nah nah nah I can't hear you!!!"
Not because we shouldn't hear it but because we don't want to.
I brought up what I thought/think was an issue caused by HAL, and we should be looking at that and not the flaws of IE8.
If software for example doesn't run on Vista, is that Vista's fault or the person coding the program that won't works fault?
I'm just reporting an error that seems HAL related in an attempt to improve the program. Nothing more nothing less.
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