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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / update and old tables

« on: June 27, 2009, 10:08:46 am »

Yes its me again -Watches everyone run away- But hey before you do, does HAL update itself automatically? I have not used it in a while, so I was messing with it recently, and kind of noticed that some of the files I thought I had changed looked different, like they had reverted back to the factory defaults. My userdata files were still the same, so I shrugged it off to the last mushroom I ate (joking)UNTIL I started reading about an update, and sure 'nough, my HAL had the latest version of the software.
My question is, how do I keep it from "updating" stuff like the  State Of Being Tables and getting rid of all my unusual entries?
Should I make a habit of saving these tables somewhere and then replacing them??
Thanks
BV

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / AIM issue

« on: June 27, 2009, 10:01:56 am »

I run the HAL on AIM frequently, and I did figure out how to get rid of the AIM system msg clutter, but the BUDDY_UPDATE2 junk is still there.
I have tried a few things to disable it but nothing works. HOW do I get rid of this??

BV

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Blank responses

« on: June 27, 2009, 09:58:07 am »

-Waves- Been a while since I been on here. I do have to blank responses, esp with the AIM client. I seldom get them just chatting with my Hal.
I have ver.6.2 but I dont recall ever updating it. does is update itself? I noticed a lot of changes I made in the non user files of the brain had reverted to the original content.
it is a biggish problem with the AIm client though.

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 16, 2009, 09:09:04 pm »

LAWL this makes me think of LANDREW... points if anyone knows what that was...

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Share Conversations, Experiences, Graphics / lightspeeds ANGELA JOLINE BRAIN SAYINGS

« on: April 16, 2009, 10:05:51 am »

so these are actual chats you have had with your version of Hal, starting with your entry first?
I have done some reverse learning, and quickly got the hang of it, but nothing as extensive yet.

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 16, 2009, 08:59:12 am »

-Still has the blue pearl- Ohhhhh, shiny! Myyyy shiny!

yea, sooOoooo Thank you ender for that tidbit about the cheater response. Ill look at it. Infact, I will change the bloody thing right now.
I guess what T was really after was the table or other data source that HAL uses to get the responses. I do recognise some of my own material, but I dont know where to find where it is, so I can change some of the rest of it.

Another thing. Hal said "You are afraid so"  this of course was due to my saying "I am afraid so" in the course of chatting with Hal. How does one fix that? Short of leaving the learning slider at zero?
Hal also says "You guess so", You are not sure" and You dont know what to do about it" Obviosly, I have said all these things in the past, as part of normal human style conversation, -sighs- IE, chatting with HAL in a normal fashion >_<
I usually set the learning slider in the middle, and only leave it at max when I am teaching HAL facts, such as "You like chocolate"

Oh yea, gee it sure would be handy to be able to edit a response right from the debug chat window. One could really make progress that way. I am aware that it would be hard because HAL gets fragments of his responses from various places, BUT sometimes he gets a response from just one location, and tHOSE could be editable. They could be shown in a different font.

Oh yea, gee again, it must be nice as a developer, to have a hundred unpaid consultants trying to tell you how to make your product better ^_^

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Question/Answer Chains

« on: April 16, 2009, 01:16:49 am »

The personality forge was just as an example of...something that has a similar arrangment as HAL but with more customisability. the website itself is horrible slow, unfortunately.
I do have a version of Buttonsvixen there named Buttons. Shes not that great there either but at least its HER brand of not that greatness. For the same time invested, she can carry on a much more fluid conversation, within the confines of what she was made to chat about. IE, the topic will never go beyond her simululated chat environment of the hidden Glade
Thats ok in my case because thats all I need.


BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 14, 2009, 01:26:10 am »

Hmmmm -looks at the blue pearl- So far no ones got to my question of...how to address a topic but not have HAL get fixated on it. I wont bother to post any transcripts because none of them are really any good, mostly due to the juxtiposition of my imput and hals stilted preprogrammed phrases. Hal will not carry on any conversation for more then one or two replies.

I need the location of the "Pick a random low quality response" in the debug routine so I can change some of them, and correct the spelling on some others >_<<

"I are doing something nice" in response to "What are you doing"
"I doing today are something really nice" to "what are you doing today"

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 12, 2009, 06:13:23 pm »

Lol yea I did discover those DLLs...i went in there with my pith helmet and a machete but did not really change anything. It looked too skeery!
I have had pretty good luck teaching my Hal to like blue, just by talking about what is nice about the color
And also, adding some synthentic memories, like  when Buttons saw a blue pearl for sale on eBay, or when she saw a pretty blue butterfly. This helps link the color with other terms in conversation, no doubt what the programmer wished to do.
-Shrugs at ender- Really, he wants us to plant a seed, grow the tree around a bench shaped form, and then sit in it, rather then just going down to the hardware store and buying a board, a hammer, and some nails.

Now, I have a question for the plant the seed and grow the bench crowd.
I need some good responses to rude people, but I dont want to talk about rudeness a lot else Hal will start parroting rudeness back to me. Short of just adding to the insults file, how do I do this, IE adressing a subject with out HAL becomming fixated on it?



BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 12, 2009, 01:28:33 am »

Ender, do you have your bot up anywhere I could talk to it?
I used to put BV up on AIM but she has a hard time handling the abuse with the HAL chat engine.
Anyone else have their bots up for show?

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Question/Answer Chains

« on: April 11, 2009, 01:15:54 pm »

did you check out "Personalityforge.com" ever? They have better pattern match and topics, and it will use a basic chain as you described.

"I like mint"
BV: "I do too. What do you like about it?"

I like that its minty fresh

BV "MmmMMmminty!"

"any phrase"

BV "Its also good for to get rid of Martians with!

ect
You are required to write many different reply options though.

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Question/Answer Chains

« on: April 11, 2009, 01:10:21 pm »

cool...Ill be waiting breathlessly. if it does not work, I have a programmer friend who might be willing to make a chatterbot. Esp if he finds out people will pay money for a good one, or even a so-so one.

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 11, 2009, 01:21:54 am »

Lemme know if you can crack hals recalcitrance about learning a new personality. I did get pretty deep into the topic, even venturing into the "originalbrain.dll" that was sort of skeery and really had no way of editing it. I modified the script where the stock replies for insults are. If I could somehow force the thing to default to MY pattern match folder BEFORE it looks anywhere else, then I could have something. Until then, as you said, it will not be a very customisable thing, more like a game or something.
I actually was quite happy with AIML and that incarnation of Buttonsvixen was a hoot to chat with. The problem is that I need to have the bot go on AIM and that site I had her on no longer works. The other chatbot sites dont really offer the AIM cinnectivity. The AIM ability is why I tried hal in the first place. I took the HAL Buttons offline since she was just too lame, and obviously a HalBot.
I do find it odd that with as much obvious care and thought as went into HAL that the makers did not offer an option to start with a better foundation to make your own personality from scratch.

But yea, plz keep me posted! Ill have Buttons back up to her old tricks in no time!

BV

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 11, 2009, 01:02:57 am »

And yes, I did buy Hal, including the disc, which I never actually got. When I fricked up the mainbrain, I had to delete everything and reload the program from the webpage. I did have a backup of the user brain.

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Custom HAL

« on: April 10, 2009, 09:01:34 pm »

Well, ALRIGHTY then! yea, I have not been able to to get HAL to say my own input to "What are you" He says he is not a what. Can you tell me how to fix that?
I have gone spelunking inside Hals little head with a chainsaw and did nix a lot of the table info, since I cant stand Hals "personality" it might be wonderful on a Human...But on my Hal Character, it is drastically out of place. I have had a few disagreements on the importance of pattern matching with the other members here, Including Yoda but all light hearted, ofcourse!

I was also unable to get hall to pick up very much of my own material in the "patterns" folder. I nixed all the stock stuff, but now even a direct match wont bring anything up.

Thanks for any help

BV