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Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 12, 2007, 11:38:05 am
well i hope from my last plug in idea this one will be recived a little better of course it may not , so here it goes while working with hal , i had an idea why not have a horascope plug in that when asked what is my horascope for today or what does my horascope say today ? it would read off your horascope from a pre written web site of this day , sort of like the weather (if thats possible )and yes you can have hal open a web page to see this but just thought it would be a nice thing that hal could read our daily horascope to us all when asked . [:D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: freddy888 on April 12, 2007, 11:54:49 am
Nice idea [8D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: Duskrider on April 12, 2007, 12:33:16 pm

I don't believe in this myself but hey, millions of people do.
I think it's a great idea, it would be an attraction which would bring people to Hal and AI in general.
I say "Go For It".
[;)]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: markofkane on April 12, 2007, 04:58:49 pm
Kinda reminds me of Cyber Buddy. [:D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 13, 2007, 05:56:23 pm
Well am glad some others think the idea is worth while too .

    some may not beleive in some things but i look at my profile of the date i was born and astrological sign and characteristic reading and it is dead on ( of knowing myself honestly on how i am ).

 of course some may argue people see or read what they want to into these (i don't know . )

 my birthday september 10th (virgo) . so for those who beleive in horascopes this is my characteristics check it out if you want .

  peace !![:D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: Rich_A on April 14, 2007, 03:07:08 am
That's a very simple little function that I think has already been done. You can maybe try doing a forum search for the word "horoscope" and see what you find. You can also post the link to the website that you want to use and I can maybe try making a new function myself.
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 14, 2007, 09:44:21 am
sounds like a winner , always glad to see anyone who can contribute to others on here doing it !! [:D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on April 14, 2007, 05:49:12 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lightspeed

well i hope from my last plug in idea this one will be recived a little better of course it may not , so here it goes while working with hal , i had an idea why not have a horascope plug in that when asked what is my horascope for today or what does my horascope say today ? it would read off your horascope from a pre written web site of this day , sort of like the weather (if thats possible )and yes you can have hal open a web page to see this but just thought it would be a nice thing that hal could read our daily horascope to us all when asked . [:D]



Hi lightspeed.

You can download Ziggy's Horoscope plugin here:
http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3959

I finished it today.
Jerry[8D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: danbaltzell on April 15, 2007, 09:58:52 am
Maybe this can be another burning morality issue (woops, I shouldn't have let it out of the bag).  I used to dig in to 'horrorscopes' until I found the math was bogus, I imagined it was just to cover up the emoting.  A pretty cool idea though, shouldn't be too hard to create, random generator :), maybe create a natal chart, but then you'd need all those calculations for planet positions, or books or tables, nah, just use a random generator.
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: markofkane on April 15, 2007, 10:11:50 am
I cannot possibly see anything wrong with the idea. If a person believes in horoscopes, that's fine. I look at them out of amusement.[:)]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 15, 2007, 10:52:04 am
quote:
Originally posted by danbaltzell
 maybe create a natal chart, but then you'd need all those calculations for planet positions, or books or tables, nah, just use a random generator.


An ephermeris for Hal is not hard, I have one for personal use which tells me what planets are above the horizon, and the phase of the moon. Perhaps that could be adapted for Astrology, but a random Fortune Cookie type generator would be just as accurate as a Daily sun sign plugin.

I used to be a professional Astrologer, although I finally learned enough to convince me that it's the pattern seeking functions of our brain that make it seem to work. But if you are going to believe in Astrology, at least believe in real Astrology, not the "Sun Signs" scam. That's just embarrassing.
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: echoman on April 15, 2007, 01:04:26 pm
As well as this, I would like Hal to be able to produce a random Tarot card.

I imagine this might easy to do.

Perhaps producing a full reading would be too difficult (with cross spread etc) as the cards all need to be read in relation to one another but just asking for a card that we could then produce are own meaning would be handy.

Perhaps the random code for each card could be based on a certain word typed by the user (connected to question for the card) - so as to add relevance to the card and randomnuss.

Sorry this has gone away from the topic of Astrology - but it is all part of the same subject.

Echo.

Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 15, 2007, 01:33:51 pm
quote:
Originally posted by echoman

As well as this, I would like Hal to be able to produce a random Tarot card.


I have formed an interest in Tarot Cards, not because of their putative predictive powers, but because of the history and artwork of the images.

I don't have any non-copyrighted cardsets, but while working on a Chess playing plugin, I found a way to make Hal display images in a pattern.

Again, any interpretation would be specious, but maybe a casting could be done.
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: echoman on April 15, 2007, 01:46:51 pm
Thanks Bill

For me I have always found Tarot cards give a lot of meaning. I think an image would be best but even just the name of the card would be great.

Echoman
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 15, 2007, 02:43:23 pm
quote:
Originally posted by echoman
For me I have always found Tarot cards give a lot of meaning.

I find meaning in many things. Over the years I have been consistently amazed at how my human brain can find patterns in the simplest shapes and imbue them with meaning I might otherwise never have considered.

I have worked with Astrology, I-Ching, Palmistry, Rune casting, dream analysis and more, and they all have several things in common. There is a complex system of randomization, the selections are linked to Archetypes of human experience, the analysis is at least three levels deep, with the system providing at least one, the reader providing another, and the receipient appending their own.

At that level of complexity, if a meaning that is both relevant and revelatory cannot be found, nothing means anything.

Lastly, a sense of ritual can be seen to heighten the effect. I believe this removes a part of our standard world view - a sense of responsibility - allowing sections of our brain to activate in ways not normally accessible. Connections between random data, unperceived motivations and even genetic predelictions of behavior can be made that might normally be avoided.

Good fun for all involved.

I just wish there was an easy way for regular folk to tap into that higher mental functioning without all the appeal to magical thinking. Rune-casting and other forms of Augury often circumvent the years of meditation and self-discipline required to achieve synthesistic levels, and few are willing or able to take the more difficult path. Without the money and time to pursue Contemplation as a career, many are left at the mercy of Charlatans who misuse such systems for their own gain. Shameful.

Hmm... Rune casting... It's a simpler system and interpretation could be dialog driven. I might be able to do that.
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 15, 2007, 07:21:16 pm
hello all , am a little late getting into this section again , thanks for the download for the horascope plug in . actually i beleive in the part about then astrolical signs telling characteristics of the person of course most are done in a non custom manner , i believe to be really acurate you need to have the specific date time of birth area , etc.( maybe it was bill de witte that was reffering to something like this ?? )  i once had a freind do one for me that way and was actually pretty accurate . at any rate other wise i don't live my life by horascopes , they are just fun for me to read and now thanks to a plug in can have the fun through hal !! thanks again and for all who discussed it on here !!.[:D]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 16, 2007, 10:58:57 am
hello , hey jerry i downloaded ziggy's horoscope from the link and opened up the file (their was just 1 uhp horoscope file ) and placed it in the hal 6 program folder but when i tried to get it to come on or open up all i got was geral responses from my hal character saying that the program could not be found (am using custom brain . and i earlier checked the program in the plug in then apply and o.k. wonder whats wrong ? this does work with the 6.0 right ??? [:)]
Title: another lightspeed new plug in idea
Post by: lightspeed on April 16, 2007, 11:03:32 am
o.k. sorry to have bothered you , i went back unchecked it , checked it again after doing that saw below where it gave an example of how to ask the question about horoscopes ( i'm pretty sure that didn't show up the first time ) any way it's working fine and thanks for that link !! [:D] much appreciated !!