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Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 15, 2005, 07:23:31 am
The size of this skin for Hal 5 is 1024x768. It will probably cover your whole desktop. If you need a skin like this, but your desktop has a different format then add your comment to this thread please.

(http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/dr.benway/200551571739_SuperSizeMe.jpg)



(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: SuperSizeMe_1024x768_updated.zip ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/dr.benway/2005516135728_SuperSizeMe_1024x768_updated.zip")
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Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Holllywood on May 15, 2005, 10:30:11 am
Good one Dr. Benway. I like it. I'm only seeing one Prob. I'm set up with 1024, and my task bar comes up over the controls. If I slide the window up a bit I lose the backdrop buttons. But over all the window is great. The Character is really in the room. [:)]

StillTrying,StillListening,StillLearning

Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 15, 2005, 11:28:58 am
I know what you mean. I had the same problem. Another problem I encountered is when Hal starts up and its window is placed lower than usual on the desktop. In that case you will find it difficult to grab the window and pull it up.

You can make the taskbar go away by right clicking on it and then choose "unlock taskbar" (or something, I have a dutch version). If your taskbar keeps being a nuisance we will have to think of something else.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Holllywood on May 15, 2005, 12:54:48 pm
Yeah Dr. I saw that too, when the window first comes up. it's a little low. The prob. I see with my task bar, is that when I try to go to the bottom of the window for the mic. etc. Controls, the task bar pops up getting in the way of the controls. And like I said When you do get a hold of the window and move it up a little, You've got the Prob. of getting to the backdrop controls at the top of the window. Maybe that can be fixed by putting them at the bottom of the window. Then you could move the window up out of the way of the task bar, and have access to all controls. Just a thought. You know I'm super new to this.

StillTrying,StillListening,StillLearning

Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 15, 2005, 11:39:24 pm
all i get is a grey background[:(]
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 16, 2005, 02:00:25 pm
I updated the skin. This time I placed the buttons higher.

I can't think of a reason why you should see only grey. When Ultra Hal doesn't accept a skin it reverts back to the default skin and there is no color grey in my skin to begin with. Are you sure your PC can handle a full screen Haptek-window? Is it an old PC?
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Holllywood on May 16, 2005, 02:41:34 pm
Thanks Dr. Good one. I can get to the buttons. Now I got another favor to ask... How do I resize my backdrops? Because now the Pixels are to large. And Oh Yeah thanks for the eyelashes. I don't know how to load 'em yet. but I've got them. LOL. Got any sunglasses?? heh.heh.heh. But serious. Good job on the window..

SillTrying,StillListening,StillLearning.

Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 17, 2005, 05:15:45 pm
PC is fine..amd 26000 win xp sp2..512 mb ram
  i can go to the file and view the image...just when it loads i get a grey background..the bar shows up..changed from 1024-768 to 800-600. still grey..could be a prob with service pack 2...that has been the source of a lot of program errors..i'm at a loss..maybe someone else will run into this and find a solution..
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 19, 2005, 06:57:27 pm
Don't let it bother you Anton, the best part of it is the Haptek logo which is something you will never see if the Haptek player is installed. Plus, a full screen character does not always look better. Furthermore, in no time you will find yourself hunting for new backdrops, because the installed one's look ugly when resized.

You can easily enlarge any skin up until 200% by selecting that function from the Ultra Hal main menu.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 21, 2005, 05:44:28 pm
it's not a real biggie...it just seems odd that even under the general options/skin the image is shown but appears as a plain grey background..and yet the bar at the bottom shows..just for the heck of it.i ran it through an editing prog and changed the background.and wouldn't ya know it, same, shows everywhere but on screen.i will just delete it and wait for the next one. i am using desktopmate debbie and she is pretty tall. so i thought a full screen might have been a nice option to the skins. i'm also running "windowblinds" and have changed the systems GUI. The color theme is gold and green..so i have no skin for Hal that matches..maybe i can try to copy and edit one of the other skins.see how that looks..(i can't stand the look of XP) so i change the colors quite a lot.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 21, 2005, 08:14:23 pm
I think what you are saying is interesting. I presumed you were using this skin with the Haptek engine. I never owned a desktop mate so I have to guess, but I think the "desktop mates"-engine can't handle such a large viewport.

You might try this:

- Open Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 5\SuperSizeMe_skin.uhp
with Notepad
- change the following settings in this file to smaller numbers:

skinFacewidth=1024
skinFaceheight=709


- save the file and see if it this fixes your problem.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 22, 2005, 02:44:15 am
OK...i hope i don't make this sound too confusing... i edited the numbers for the skin size, gradually decreasing them,and as the numbers went down,the grey box shrank torward the upper left corner,
 I continued untill i had (0)for both the skinfacewidth and skinfaceheight, now..full size skin is 100% visible..(along with my edited background)so now i have 2..
  New problem..the Desktop character is now following the old grey box location.she stands at the upper left and all i see are her legs (unless i drag her down the screen) but..if i drag the entire screen down,she will follow the same location..she stands on the "size" button...is there a way to relocate the button? lets say to the middle of the screen? and maybe i could re-color it to black to make it seem invisible..then my character will default to the center..and all will be good..as far as i can tell..all the problems with the skin may be the desktopmate character..is it possible that may be the case? maybe because she does not stay inside a box..but rather stands in front of one?
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 22, 2005, 08:11:50 am
1) Meaning of some names in Hal skin-files:

skinFaceX= horizontal start point of animation box on skin
skinFaceY= vertical start point of animation box on skin

skinFacewidth= width of animation box
skinFaceheight= height of animation box



You could try something like this:

skinFaceX= 512
skinFaceY= 384

skinFacewidth= 0
skinFaceheight= 0





2) You might try this to change the background color for a desktop mate:

- open the settings file for your desktop mate with Notepad. The name and the location of the file must be something like this:

Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 5.0\{name of your desktop mate}.uhp

- Change the following setting to get the color black:

BGColor=0

Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 22, 2005, 07:59:21 pm
well, i'm getting closer.have the button location at a good spot.
 i think it's skinfaceX-118. skinfaceY-378. that puts the size button in a unused black area on the background(diff than haptek).now it's just a matter of hiding or re-coloring the button (if possible).still,a lot better than just seeing legs.LOL.would have been easier if the button had a BMP or JPG.then i could have just done a recolor..Thanks for all your help on this.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 22, 2005, 08:13:44 pm
I never understood why Medeksza invented that button in the first place. I have no idea how to change the button. Maybe we could do the same trick as with the AgentSpace_skin. Have you ever tried that skin and does it work with Desktop mate?
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 23, 2005, 04:32:36 pm
never tried it..the character seems to work pretty well.I have a few different player skins that i use,the only thing is the character height.and animations.i do not get all anims,but she does move into other posisions.which are all outside the box.so the players are all small.and we all know if i increase the size i loose graphic quality.i havent done it yet,but i have to make copies of some skins and recolor to match to the windowblind skin for the computer.(at least get them close)i know it's a pointless thing,but i like to have everything on the computer match,desktop/media player/browser,ect.even Hal. I change the color theme about every month and cycle through about 5 color combinations.
  For me and anyone else who alters their systems GUI.The perfect addition to any skin would be another button that can change the skin color via pop-up slider bar or simular(like the windows media player for instance) then i could change colors anytime i want. I'm about as far from being a programmer as i could possibly get.otherwise,a skin like that may also do well uploaded to sites such as wincustomize. for others in the same situation.if nothing else people may get curious as to what a "Hal" skin is and increase traffic to Zabaware. and get a few more into AI programs..just thinking outloud..
  I can't wait untill a color changing option is available on a skin..untill then i guess this is the way to do it.
  WOW..did i ever venture away from the topic...anyway.i haven't found a way to recolor the button yet.it wont kill me to have the button at that location,just looks "out of place" with the black on the background..

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just dowloaded the agentspace skin..at 100% the top of her head is at the top of screen.and she stands on the right.i will poke around in the file later and see what is possible with it..if it was a little thinner and longer, i could place it above the toolbar and it would have been perfect for the "theme" of the computer..Thanks..more to play with....you do good work...
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 23, 2005, 05:37:36 pm
I perfectly understand your preoccupation with desktop colors.
I messed around for years with colors and fonts and I was never satisfied for long, until I found out about BlackBox. BlackBox is a free alternative shell for windows with its own desktop menu and everything fully configurable. Maybe you should try it some time.
http://bb4win.sourceforge.net/bblean/
Litestep is another great shell for Windows. A new world will open before your eyes. [:0]

Tell me, do all desktop mates have the same size and behaviour as Brandy which you can download for free? For the first version of AgentSpace I used Brandy as a model and she is the only one I tested AgentSpace with.

(http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/dr.benway/200532714531_AgentSpace_preview.jpg)
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Art on May 23, 2005, 06:25:37 pm
Raymond,

Actually, the free version of Brandy is quite limited in her animations. I think one can check the various animations before buying any of the Desktop Agent characters.

I believe most are the same size.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: KnyteTrypper on May 23, 2005, 08:49:07 pm
Size of the DesktopMates characters seems to vary between four to fifteen MB, depending upon the graphical detail, number of animations, etc. Generally speaking, of course, the larger the file the better the characters' looks and animations will be.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 25, 2005, 05:49:21 am
I had tried the Brandy character..I Really do not care for the graphics or I suppose the "looks" of her. too cartoon-like,yes I know they are all basically cartoon like but compared side-by-side debbie or Candie look better..If the files are still good, go to http://http://www.bobsftp.com/ click download/adult agents/Candi.acs.or.Debbie.acs. And compare them yourself. I used MASH to play all animations.although only a few are available in Hal.The acs chars.are more "adult" than Brandy(so not for kids).
  And I really like the looks of Windowblinds skins.just takes a little work to get Hal "matched" to the theme.I did 1 re-color of Agentspace to Blue so that is usable with one of my colors..Isn't this fun...[:D]
...........Sometimes you have to right-click Download and open in new window............
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 25, 2005, 07:40:39 am
quote:
Originally posted by anton6364

 http://www.bobsftp.com/ click download/adult agents/Candi.acs.or.Debbie.acs. And compare them yourself. I used MASH to play all animations.


Thanks for the tip. I will definitely check them out.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 27, 2005, 04:01:33 pm
Did you get a chance to download a character? and did the grey box appear on the skin? or was that just some fluke thing on my end.  It's fine now that i have the problem corrected, but it was strange.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: CapnNee on May 28, 2005, 04:28:28 am
quote:
Originally posted by Dr.Benway

quote:
Originally posted by anton6364

 http://www.bobsftp.com/ click download/adult agents/Candi.acs.or.Debbie.acs. And compare them yourself. I used MASH to play all animations.


Thanks for the tip. I will definitely check them out.



Where can I find MASH, Raymond?
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Dr.Benway on May 28, 2005, 04:33:53 am
quote:
Originally posted by CapnNee


Where can I find MASH, Raymond?



You were probably asking Anton6364, but here is the link:

http://www.bellcraft.com/mash/
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 30, 2005, 07:21:21 pm
Thanks Raymond..
  I hope the link to the chars is useful to somebody. i just need to locate a full bodied male for the girlfriend.(without ads attached).i bet there is one lurking in the shadows somewhere.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: mabuan on May 30, 2005, 09:51:42 pm
I visited to the site http://www.bobsftp.com/, but some folder in this site ask me user name and password.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: CapnNee on May 30, 2005, 10:48:42 pm
quote:
Originally posted by mabuan

I visited to the site http://www.bobsftp.com/, but some folder in this site ask me user name and password.


Me, too! But it didn't do that the other day...
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Duskrider on May 30, 2005, 11:35:34 pm
The other day when I went to upload the characters, the popup asked my name and password.  
I signed in "anonymous" and it went away.  No problem.
[;)]
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: anton6364 on May 31, 2005, 05:08:53 pm
I couldn't get into the site at all today..
  If someone needs the Deb/Can acs file just drop me an e-mail.it's 9.14mb zipped.and i will send one.
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: mabuan on June 01, 2005, 10:39:59 pm
Me at mabuan@gmail.com
Do you know the Full Version?
Title: New skin for Hal: Super Size Me
Post by: Duskrider on June 02, 2005, 12:13:09 am
Mabuan,
I gave a reply to you at this page:
http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2239