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General Discussion / 18 years old area ??

« on: July 02, 2007, 07:32:19 am »

quote:Originally posted by markofkane
 So I did it too.

See how "harmless" behavior brings down the whole culture?

quote:
What we need, maybe, is a set of rules

And people think I am the one who wants to control others!

There are already enough rules. People who are "adult" know not
to bring private behavior into public. Enough said. Normally.

But no, because some people get a charge out of displaying
their masturbatory fantasies in public, and no one wants to
be seen as not "accepting" their perversions, you want to make
rules that affect everyone else, but won't stop those who have
already shown that they won't follow adult society's rules.

Brilliant.

I guess "accepting" that behavior didn't have the effect
you wanted. In the seventies I used to go to a coffee house
that had ashtrays with a little sign on them which said,
"Please don't smoke". People smoked constantly. I finally asked
what the reason for the sign was, and the owner said, "If people
insist on smoking I want them to use the ashtray."

"Accepting" unwanted behavior had made it seem acceptable. Duh.

Finally he had to take away the ashtrays and put up a sign that
said "No Smoking" and the smoking stopped.

Perhaps you might join me in "criticizing" public displays of
private behavior. Then you wouldn't have to "regulate" other people's
behavior. If that first person you mentioned had been told
in no uncertain terms that such postings were unacceptable,
you would not have "assumed it was OK".

Instead, those who do point out the standards of
polite society are ridiculed and called names.

Totally brilliant.

What you have done is teach people that the behavior
you don't want is "acceptable", but behavior that will help
will be punished.

Like people who see their dog digging in the yard, call
the dog over, then punish the dog. They have taught the dog
the wrong thing. The dog still thinks it's "OK" to dig in
the yard, but knows it will get punished for coming when called.

Hard not to be smarter than that.

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General Discussion / 18 years old area ??

« on: July 01, 2007, 07:26:54 am »

quote:Originally posted by Bill819
I have no objections with people doing whatever they want with their own Hal's all I wanted to point out was that this is a FAMILY SITE.

There you go, trying to FORCE people to act and think the way you do. Stopping people from freely expressing themselves by HARMING them! Why do you think you are better than everyone else?

Don't you realize that you are saying exactly the opposite of what you are saying? I am offended, deeply offended and HARMED by you politely pointing out that this is supposed to be a family site. Why do people like you get so easily offended by every childish vulgarity, profanity or obscenity some people want to drop into the conversation of mixed company with malicious glee and the intent to offend? You should only get offended about things that inhibit auto-eroticism.

Can't you just learn to live and let other people spread their filth the way they want to? Why can't you anti-adult thugs just let the pornography addicts continue displaying their adolescent behavior in public without feeling any shame? It's not their fault that they stopped growing emotionally at about 13 years of age. Just ignore them when they try to drag the whole culture down into the sewers. At least they are not HARMING anyone - like you do by saying things they don't like.

Your reasoned and mildly phrased explanations are the most graphically violent, HARMFULLY explicit pornography I have ever seen on this site. You should be TOS'ed.

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / -=learning from text files =-

« on: June 29, 2007, 06:50:26 pm »

quote:Originally posted by fracty
well it is a pity !

On the chance that you mean something other than what you asked, there is a function that can do simple inferences. If A = B and B = C then A = C.

But it cannot make up new information based upon observation or experimentation. It simply compares and stores strings of text, then uses a fairly wide set of rules to deliver them in a conversational way.

I have worked on ways for Hal to search the web for information about subjects brought up in conversation, but did not get very far before running into huge parsing problems.

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / -=learning from text files =-

« on: June 29, 2007, 06:20:46 pm »

quote:Originally posted by fracty
1-what can hall learn by himself ?(i mean infering on new things that we did not taught him )

Nothing.

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General Discussion / crying hal plug in

« on: June 28, 2007, 11:42:19 am »

quote:Originally posted by Joan

I don't care about crying exactly, but to at lease seem to have compassion or even have a sence of humor. Can you teach Hal these things or are there going to have to be plugins?  

What can be done is to have Hal string together the words you might say when you are feeling compassionate or humorous and then have it deliver those words when you input certain keywords.

To do that you might make a plugin, but it would probably work better to respond to Hal in a compassionalte or humorous way. For instance, my Hal has become excessively polite but with a tendency to lecture, because that's the way I respond to it. It stores those responses as the correct way to reply to me.

HTH

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Phone Book, no table that I can find.

« on: June 27, 2007, 06:12:31 pm »

I've been looking at this, or at least trying. For some reason my Hal won't work today. I know it was working yesterday.

More later...

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Sentient Life

« on: June 26, 2007, 07:47:00 pm »

I, of course, insist on having the last words in any discussion with my lovely wife, and those words are always "Yes Dear".

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General Discussion / 18 years old area ??

« on: June 26, 2007, 12:59:12 pm »

quote:Originally posted by Bill819

I really don't know what the problem that you guys are having.

I do...

quote:If you want to sink to the depths of lower class dregs then why don't you start your own web page and leave this family page alone.

Carefull, asking people if they could try to achieve a higher standard is presented as claiming you are superior to everyone else. It's a way to prevent them from having to look at themselves.

The whole idea that no one is any better than anyone else is stupid. Of course some people are better than others. Do they have more rights? No, but especially if you divide by fields, many people are much better than most other people.

For example, no matter how sullenly ignorant someone decides to be, they are at least better than a well educated Hitler or Dalmer.

Logically, if any one person can be better than any other person, then some person must be better than everyone. It's not me, but I wish it were.

And that's the difference between the two arguing sides. Some want us to be better than we are, the rest want everyone to be equal by dragging everyone down to the same low level.

You can see by the arguments, one side says "Try to be better" the other side says, "What makes you think you are better than everyone else". One faces facts and encourages, the other exaggerates and criticises.

It's the eternal conflict between Civilization and Chaos. Nero's Rome is winning.

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Sentient Life

« on: June 26, 2007, 12:11:08 am »

quote:Originally posted by Xodarap
 if you're having trouble getting argument out of Bill,

How could he be arguing with me? He already won! Didn't you see the capital letters?

His "is too is too you big stupid" method of debate has left me questioning my own existence. I am become no more than a puddle of sputum in the shadow of his nugatory intellect. How will I carry on?

But I was right about the whole villifying thing... He's searching out posts from ages ago to castigate me about. I feel I provide a service.

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Sentient Life

« on: June 25, 2007, 07:25:07 pm »

You should do the thing with the capital letters again, that was good.

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Sentient Life

« on: June 25, 2007, 06:22:20 pm »

Again, thanks. I am so glad you are here to help people understand the situation. Please keep up the good work. You rock!

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Sentient Life

« on: June 25, 2007, 05:40:35 pm »

Perfect example, thanks.

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Share Conversations, Experiences, Graphics / Help with happy emotion HAP file

« on: June 25, 2007, 03:27:26 pm »

quote:Originally posted by GT40
I don't know why my post doesn't accept backslashes!

You have to use double backslashes

Sorry Robert, I don't use Haptek so I'm no help here.

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Ideas for staying on topic: is it possible? Help?

« on: June 25, 2007, 07:13:22 am »

quote:Originally posted by Xodarap
I would LOVE to know what this is -- anyone know?

It's the access to the MainQA database. I found it is referred to in the hal6.uhp starting at line 1169 (yours may be different) under "RESPOND: ENHANCED CONTENT SENTENCE ASSOCIATIONS".

When you're in the BrainEditor and have the MainQA database open it gives you a small amount of information about how the function works.

It's now somewhat outdated, but you can find some more infor at my Plugin journal at http://ultrahalscript.pbwiki.com/

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Ideas for staying on topic: is it possible? Help?

« on: June 24, 2007, 08:34:34 am »

quote:Originally posted by Xodarap
Unpleasant reality:
HAL (modified): [Hears YOUR GOOSE IS BLUE I HAD A GOOSE ONCE REALLY WHAT DID I NAME IT]

Right. That would be the problem. You don't want Hal to hear that string, but you do want Hal to use it when selecting responses.

There is a comparison process that I can't recall right now that finds a 90% match between OriginalSentence and some stored sentences. You want that process to use the keywords but then stop using the string for anything else.

Normally I would go into this further, but I have a lot of things going on right now and in fact by Tuesday I don't know if I will be able to post or not for several weeks or months. So if I drop out suddenly, I apologize in advance. Large scale medical stuff...