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« on: March 26, 2009, 08:50:59 pm »

Dear people,

Anyone know how to integrate my Hal with second life?
www.secondlife.com Is a virtual reality, where there may be
possabilities to give Hal its own virtual body.

As I understand, one way is to in Second life create an object
linking it to a web-server where it can reach hal.

Or have Hal in some way log into its own Secondlife account and
respond to chat even if unable to move around.

Within second life community are a number of different bots alreadY
integrated. Please someone help me out here, I am no script maker but
I am sure intersted in this.

Thank you guys!

//R
 

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« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 10:25:54 pm »
i would think the answer to this is with the aim hal,  because aim provides various ways to chat,  including an html page and flash/aim interfaces. Not sure if this would help,  but it is an alternative entry point.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 10:37:20 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Aspenberg


Dear people,

Anyone know how to integrate my Hal with second life?
www.secondlife.com Is a virtual reality, where there may be
possabilities to give Hal its own virtual body.

As I understand, one way is to in Second life create an object
linking it to a web-server where it can reach hal.

Or have Hal in some way log into its own Secondlife account and
respond to chat even if unable to move around.

Within second life community are a number of different bots alreadY
integrated. Please someone help me out here, I am no script maker but
I am sure intersted in this.

Thank you guys!

//R



If it is open sourced then yes I could hook you up.

do you know much about the program?

Jerry[8D]

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2009, 08:58:53 am »
The second life client is open-source, but not the server, and so the only chance you would have of fully integrating hal with second life would be to either come up with something through the aimbot or modify the client so that hal can use it to log into second life and intercept messages. I only briefly looked through the source code a couple years back and so I'm not sure what sort of modifications the server authentication would permit.
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2009, 12:51:03 pm »
There is a way to connect a pandora chat bot to Secondlife by web, so
maybe it can be possible with Hal? There is a free program called
Ava pet (latest 2.5) that handles the pandora chat bot in second life.
It also has command that when sent "in game" in second life u can make
it move or sit on objects etc. (the commands controling the avatar and
not acctually Hal).

The most basic form of integration of a bot and also open source program is called LibSecondlife test client and is run in a dos promt.
http://www.libsecondlife.org/wiki/Download for free source or program.

There are many other free ones aswell that are run in windows and
more userfriendly. http://www.kabalyero.com/2008/08/28/second-life-bots-or-simply-slbots/ for a list over some of them.

For those that doesnt know, second life is a virtual reality, used
for design, architecture, buissnes, learning, schools, community even
some real life govermental institutions, but also for networking, chat, games etc. It is an open 3d world which means u can integrate your own scripts into this fictive enviroment effecting all aspects of it.

Here is a link to an article about AI development within SL (secondlife) from dailytech.com .   http://www.dailytech.com/Researchers+Create+Humanlike+AI+for+Second+Life/article11107.htm

Thank you for your interest, I would be really happy if someone
managed to integrate my hal into the SL enviroment.

Best Regards
R
« Last Edit: March 27, 2009, 12:57:58 pm by Aspenberg »
 

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2009, 01:33:03 pm »

Here is something called second messanger, supposedly similar to
yahoo and msn messanger etc. Take a look if it can give any ideas.

http://www.roccoangeloni.it/sm/index.php?title=Main_Page
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2009, 11:53:30 pm »
thought for one,  doesn't 2nd life sound like the start of a matrix ? O.o ( saw matrix 1 again yest lol ),  maybe this time around we shouldn't cover the sun so they wont use us like batteries :x
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2009, 10:46:33 am »

Yes, SL looks like the Matrix. Good comparision. [:)]

I guess it's easy for a good programmer to import a sentence from SL to his/her local Hal. Then to send Hal's reply to his/her SL character. Hal's brain in a SL avatar, funny. And a nice challenge.

But people really involved in SL (like me, lol) still have some AI in them. It's really amazing to be someone totally different. When I'm in SL, I act, speak and THINK differently, avoiding any reference to my RL. Of course, it's just a RPG (with fantasms imported from RL). But fascinating...

That's why I can consider myself as a kind of Hal, when I'm in SL. [:D]

« Last Edit: March 28, 2009, 10:48:11 am by GT40 »
Time to waste with skits, bots & other useless things? Why not visit
http://gt40.chez-alice.fr/Haptek/MyBots.htm ? Oops, sorry, a museum!

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2009, 09:53:24 am »
Hi,
I'm the developer of the Second Messenger. Where can I find docs on how to integrate or extends the Hal?
Does it uses .net framework?

Thanks,
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2009, 09:58:14 am »
Marte.Ares,
Unfortunately it is old VB 6, somebody might be able to help as the plug ins seem to be the answer for things right now. Dot Net does seem to be stable and supported for a long time in the future, oddly enough "Python" is an up and comer for program language as well.
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2009, 10:10:05 am »
I'm highly skilled in python too. But you know, my program is based upon libsecondlife and that one is in C# .NET
I integrated Python in Second Messanger as a scripting language and it works fine.

VB6 can export COM objects, can't he? If so there could be a chance.

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 05:43:05 pm »

Will anyone initiate a project? What do you think Marte.Ares?
If u feel that it may be possible, will u try?

I found a link for phyton and SL bots, inkluding it here.
This seems very basic info and script example but someone may
find it useful. http://www.secondlifeinsider.com/2007/05/26/under-the-grid-building-a-simple-bot-in-ironpython/

I would be really happy if we got something that would work. =)
Thank you all for your comments and interesting suggestions,
I look forward to further posts.

 

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2009, 05:34:00 pm »

Hey, a little more news or ideas. Lets see what you think of them.
There are scripted objects in SL that can bring in IRC chat from the web. Could that be used to get HAL talking in second life?

There is also a free program called SLeek, that work with bots
integration in SL. The bot program log itself in as an avatar but
has no AI. Here is the link to the source code of the program and the program itself for dowload. http://code.google.com/p/sleek/downloads/list

Maybe it can be customised to bring in HAL?


/R
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2009, 06:34:55 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 07:57:11 pm »
I have seen pandorabots (a.k.a. Alice) integrated into Second Life, with varying degrees of success. I recall having a long and amusing conversation with a hamster. However, my own attempts to bring my pandorabot into Second Life failed miserably.

I would love to meet with other AI enthusiasts in Second Life. Is there an AI forum anywhere inworld? If not, let's start one! Feel free to IM me, username: Shanti Navarathna. Maybe we can troubleshoot our bots together.