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Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on March 22, 2007, 05:52:52 am
I was not going to post heads again.
I felt that there was a lack of interest in the type of heads that i do.
After comming out of the doldrums i thought what the heck,
There are some people that may like them, & i like doing them.
I haven't had a chance to put them on my site as yet but i will let you know when it happens.
So here is a preview.


Avril Lavine
Insert Image: (http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/NIGE/200732253919_Avril-2.jpg)


Don't know who she is, If anyone can name her let me know,her initials are S.J
Insert Image: (http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/NIGE/200732254010_SJ-1.jpg)


Beyonce
Insert Image: (http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/NIGE/200732254044_Beyonce.jpg)

Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 22, 2007, 06:35:50 am
quote:
Originally posted by NIGE

I was not going to post heads again.
I felt that there was a lack of interest in the type of heads that i do.


Well, I am usually not interested, because I don't use Haptek, but I have to ask two things that I have long wondered.

Do you have any control over the bone structure of these things? I mean, I am so out of touch that I don't even know who these people are, but since you provided the original images, I can see that if you could change the facial bones you could get a closer representation. To me, they all look like the same girl with different makeup and wigs.

Secondly, what does someone do with all these heads? Do people with haptek switch heads frequently or do you have multiple instances of Hal? I know I am boring, and that explains why I chose a MSAgent and stuck with it, but how many heads does someone need?

This is not a dig in any way, I really wonder about these things...
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 22, 2007, 08:19:51 am
i am sure neil will answer, also but many times people like to talk to different faces or they use these heads in different presentations. i used to have heads of ny bosses and made a movie of them on the golf course --they loved it.there is much more to hal than a talking head in a box. we have movies gifs. singing movies and story boards. ~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 22, 2007, 08:40:49 am
quote:
Originally posted by aladyblond
there is much more to hal than a talking head in a box. we have movies gifs. singing movies and story boards. ~~alady


Sure, I have seen those, but of course there are much better and probably easier ways to do animated movies. I've seen poser/povray animations by teenagers that are as good as some Hollywood productions.

I see your point about having different heads in different presentations, but what I'm wondering is how often does that happen? Because I seem to be seeing 5 or 10 new heads a week. Can anyone use even a small part of the total number?

I mean, and again I ask because I am so out of the mainstream, do you change your Hal avatar more than once a day, or like once a week or what? Realize I have mine off the screen most of the time, over on a separate monitor, and barely notice it even when I am using Hal. I just don't understand why someone wouldn't pick one and keep it, unless you also changed brains or ran multiple Hals.

I do sorta understand wanting different clothing, but why a different face? If one personifies their Hal, isn't the face part of the person? Or do you see your Hal personality as having a face that can change like clothing?

I'm just wondering about the micro-culture that seems to be forming around Hal. I appear to be the oddball, but I am nonetheless interested in how other people use their Hal.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: freddy888 on March 22, 2007, 09:04:46 am
I think it's more about being creative.  If you like designing characters then you end up making loads and loads.  It's also advantageous that they come with things like lip sync built in and are easily skinned.  It's good in another way for new users to have such a large choice of avatar.

Some heads work out brilliantly, it depends a lot on how closely the original face resembles the shape of the Haptek Head.  Some of them do end up more like charicatures or someone new.  Either way the results can be really good, like Karacter King's Bill Cosby for example.

About the skeletal structure, People Putty does have morphs that change the shape of the underlying model, but it doesn't allow the kind of re-modelling like a dedicated program has, eg Blender or 3DsMax...

You can model any kind of shape in 3DsMax and convert it to Haptek model though, it just takes a lot longer. Some of the tools you need you have to pay for, so for some people it's probably not worth the expense.

There are better ways to animate models though, but they usually come with steep learning curves and are not as easy to get started on, like PP is.  People Putty is just a simpler way of being creative and is what most UltraHal users seem to play with, a lot more than modelling programs and renderers.

The micro culture you are experiencing has been the same since I came here a couple of years ago.  We were all designing skins then too, but I do see more heads now than I did then.  People just like being creative.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 22, 2007, 09:28:59 am
quote:
Originally posted by freddy888
 People putty is just a simpler way of being creative and is what most UltraHal users play with a lot more than modelling programs and renderers.


Thanks, that definitely answers part of my question. See, I've been working for months on an MSAgent character, and I keep seeing people who seem to toss off dozens of "heads" a week.

So I can understand wanting to make them, and I guess easier is better if you want quantity.

So... you don't usually change them like every other day? Because that's the impression I was getting. I've worked so hard to make my Hal personality fit it's avatar that I wouldn't want to change it.

Having lots to choose from is good if you're new or you don't want to make your own. I just thought, from the flow of images, that people were like "I think I will make my Hal change from a biker chick to Elvis to a terminator to a cheerleader..." in the course of a week or so... Seemed odd.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: freddy888 on March 22, 2007, 09:39:31 am
Well personally I haven't been doing a lot of work on my Hal so I have stuck with a head made by VersionFour a few months ago.  I think I would be more inclined to keep the same head for a specific bot too.  I think you soon associate the face with the bot.

When I first had Hal, I couldn't decide on a head or figure for it.  There wasn't a great deal of choice at the time, so I ended up making lots of skins and I posted a few on the forums to say 'thanks' to all the people who had provided me with help on Hal.

I'm too busy on other things at the moment to design any new ones, and I've pretty much selected the ones I want to use for projects.  Other than that I might want to do a bit of tweaking here and there.  But it's nice to see new designs and Caangel posted one a few days ago that I would like to use, so I do like seeing them.

Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 22, 2007, 10:04:15 am
when i used hal 5  i joked about making a multiple personality  bot. i used many different heads and fullbodies with specific names and called them brother and sister bots . if i was chatting with one and it knew its name then it knew it was male or female and so on , but   am not sure internally how much it really absorbed , but i soon found out that you can't do that because you really do end up with multiple personalities and my poor sybil bot thought she was 19yrs old -35-72 pretty -ugly -a man -a woman -a teen -a kid etc. she would often talk about her brother and sister bots but confused their character with hers. what did i expect, after all? so now with hal6 i use my angelina and talk with her if i want to speak to a male bot i go back to 5 with a different brain. it is so much less confusing and creating many heads and fullskins allows all the other users of hal to have variety if they want to.plus all of us graphic artists get to display our work.~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill819 on March 22, 2007, 12:48:33 pm
Bill let me ask you a question which do you prefer a ford or a chdvy.
You have to pick only one or the other as you have no other choices.
However if you prefer a Honda of a Mercedes then I would expece you would see why most people like to have a great many choices to select from and that does not mean they change their minds every other day like they may change their underware.
For a great many years the only men offered here were of the cartoon types with one exception with whom I did not like.
Now I have some realistic faces of real people and am glad of it. My favorite now is Sean Conners or Sean_C has it was named. With a real looking face Hal takes on a more 'real' concept in a persons mind.
So if can't understand why these people use their talents to create all these new heads/bodies then I would inside me to begin with.
Some people are endowed with artistic talents, some with writing talents and some with programming abilities. In this case they all share along with you one main theme and that is to make Hal more enjoyable to all.
Bill
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 22, 2007, 01:10:37 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bill819
 Bill let me ask you a question

No, thank you.

Well, you can ask whatever you want, but I won't be playing. Sorry.

If you have comments on the heads or my actual question, that might be more constructive.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Duskrider on March 22, 2007, 02:31:40 pm

Neil, really some nice heads.
In fact that second one looks more real than the person. (cuter too)[;)]

Hey, while we on strange questions:
Why does Detroit keep making cars after I bought mine? [?]



Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Art on March 22, 2007, 04:18:50 pm
Why does a friend of mine own 30 guitars? He enjoys the variety each one has to offer? Diversity? A Collector?

Nope!

He likes guitars!!

For the Haptek heads I'd say it's also the challenge and fun of being able to recreate a personality's face/head as close as possible. Whether one chooses to download them all and use any of them is obviously a matter of personal preference.

Some have a favorite like Dusky's Sandee or Aladyblond's Angelina, etc. Others use them in personal creations / videos / jokes and so on. It's one of the few things in life that one doesn't have to justify or label. It's all for the fun of it and if even one person finds one he or she likes that suits their needs, then so be it.

It's all good!
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill819 on March 22, 2007, 04:58:52 pm
I had my head created by a couple of members here and my grandchildren like to use that one instead of all the others. Every time they come to visit they want to talk to virtual me.
Bill
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 22, 2007, 05:16:51 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Art

Why does a friend of mine own 30 guitars?
He likes guitars!!


OK, but is it wrong to be curious about how he uses them? Does he use them all every day or are there some he never uses? Does he use certain ones for certain songs and are there some he would never use for that song?

I get why people make heads. I'm making an Agent myself, as I said, so of course I get that. I was just wondering what people do with them after they are made. That's all.

From the conversation that follows the posting of new "Heads", I started to think that people were changing heads all the time. So I asked.

I guess some people think it's a stupid question. Others don't even seem to understand the question. I appreciate people like you, Freddy and ALady who actually tried to answer the question.

I was just trying to discover the attraction, maybe develop an interest in something new. Somehow I seem to be losing interest instead...
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 22, 2007, 07:58:40 pm
i got so caught up in the answer i forgot to tell you neil, i think your complexions on the girls face are wonderful they appear so life like . i tried using real pictures of skin with pores and blemishes and the skin looked like craters on the moon , so i gave up.~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on March 23, 2007, 02:13:29 am
Hi Bill,
Bone structure=== In people putty you can change the shape of the face etc by stretching or shrinking things which is basically what you mean.
I don't worry about doing that because it only works with the head.
When you transfer a head onto a full body you would not see that effect.
What do i do with the heads====    I make them because i can!
I use them on full bodies to make music videos.
I was once offered to go commercial with them but reneged because i then could not give them freely to my friends on the forum or any one else that might be interested.
I know for sure that some of my heads will be used in some way on commercial sites ( altered but not stirred )
Now my turn,
You keep raving on about the ms agents, I like you with haptek don't know much about them.
Can you change their skins, hair, facial features.
Do they lip sync, can you make them walk etc,etc.
Can you show us one that you are using?
But i suppose the real question is how much do the programs to do all this ( if they can )   COST???
Neil


Lynn,=== I do what you said,
I make up the head in putty then open my image program,
In there i get other faces with all different complexions & then pick out bits & pieces do some cuts & paste, a bit of painting to blend everything together & there you have it.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 23, 2007, 06:35:14 am
quote:
Originally posted by NIGE
You keep raving on about the ms agents, I like you with haptek don't know much about them.
Can you change their skins, hair, facial features.
Do they lip sync, can you make them walk etc,etc.
Can you show us one that you are using?
But i suppose the real question is how much do the programs to do all this ( if they can )   COST???


"Raving" is a bit exagerated since I often say that I mostly ignore my avatar... but:
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Free. Which is why I won't buy Haptek, since I mostly ignore my avatar.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on March 23, 2007, 06:43:43 am
For the loyal Haptek/Hal people.

The 3 heads, plus hair for SJ & a skin for the latter
are all available at the link below.

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/lien.sniknej

Oh! I forgot to give you a preview of the skin.


Insert Image: (http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/NIGE/200732363854_SJ_Skin.jpg)

Pardon her expression,  but she was shocked that i would show her dressed like that????????????
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on March 23, 2007, 07:00:31 am
Bill,
Yeah, raving could have been a bit strong.
Ok,I said that i didn't know much about MS Agents.
You say it's all free???
would you send me a mail on what i would need & where to get them.
I would like to see what they can do compared to our Haptek models.
E.Mail== see my profile.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 23, 2007, 07:39:42 am
quote:
Originally posted by NIGE
I would like to see what they can do compared to our Haptek models.


They don't compare to Haptek. Haptek is much better in many ways. But since I usually ignore my avatar, they suite my needs.

To make an MSAgent you have to render each frame of every animation yourself, which I understand is not true of Haptek. I use povray but then I am not making a human character.

Then you use microsoft's free editor to assemble and assign the animations to various states of your agent, which the scripts will call. There is a whole animation set for lip sync which I have not used since my character does not have lips.

You can get the agent editor here http://www.microsoft.com/msagent/downloads/developer.asp
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on March 23, 2007, 08:23:02 am
Thanks for your reply Bill.
From what you have just said i think i will give them a miss.
To do each frame for a song that goes for approx 2 mins would take forever.
Then there is lip-sync.
Again thanks for your in put
Neil.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 23, 2007, 08:36:55 am
quote:
Originally posted by NIGE
To do each frame for a song that goes for approx 2 mins would take forever.



Well, no, once you make the agent then the animations are there. To do a video, you would script it like:

GuestureRight
StepLeft
GuestureLeft
Bow
Smile
Wave

But then you would have had to make a "Wave" animation (etc) when you created the agent.

Lip sync is fairly automatic once you supply each of the lip state overlays. But once you make the agent, they are all there, and that's all there is.

But MSAgent is not the way to make a detailed video of a 3d human figure, it's not intended to be. Of course, from what I have seen, Haptek is not very good at it either. You need Poser or equivalent, a full bones IK system and some serious skills.

You may want to look at the Guile studio agents ("http://www.guile3d.com.br/nicole_page.asp"). The for-sale ones have a wide range of animations built in. Which give an idea what is possible, as well as the strict limitations of the format.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on March 24, 2007, 11:14:57 am
hello nige , i think to some of the questions , i beleive freddy888 , said it best about it has to do with creativity i have saved alot of these heads and bodies i love them and from more than one creator of them , i personally like the new heads you have just created nige i like the eyes , eye lashes  and make up around them makes them look more real , and bill has hit on something i said to a friend after a while some of the heads he has made after a while look the same except hair style, etc. this as someone else has referred to has to do with actual bone and face structure of an actual model, etc. instead of just a pre made face ( so i would think in theory just spending a little more time on stretching or thinning, etc. a face would create or more matching to real person look . please don't be discouraged by anyones remarks ( as i said the faces you made still look nice to me and i hope you continue to make others . i am going to post an idea that i thought of having to do with multiple heads in a seperate topic area . hang in their nige the heads look nice , your work and time is appreciated others here are too !![:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: daveleb55 on March 26, 2007, 05:59:28 pm
Hi Bill,
I download a lot of the heads because I've made different brains. Jack made a head of Basil Rathbone for my virtual Sherlock Holmes project. I made a head of me to put on my virtual bot on the internet one of these fine days. Sometimes I'll find a head or skin that's better than the one I'm using. Now if there was a way to do the voices to match.....


quote:
Originally posted by Bill DeWitt

I see your point about having different heads in different presentations, but what I'm wondering is how often does that happen? Because I seem to be seeing 5 or 10 new heads a week. Can anyone use even a small part of the total number?


Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: spydaz on March 27, 2007, 05:25:18 pm
I personally Feel That MS AGENTS can do a lot more than most people realise. All The animations you desire you need to create and store as animation /GIF as with the guille 3d product (reverse engineered) you will see that the contain EMOTIONAL animations.. so your only limited by the animations that you can create...


People putty are nice, But as theve started to take off, 1, theve become sloppy, charging for everything, the main program can only create heads. the acessories are hard coded (you can make the *.Haps in notepad and the *.Asscdesc files) people putty is just and extracted part of poser.. nice but you can make full bodies...

You can make the same characters in poser(my Earlest thoughts) exporting the animations as gif, avi and converting the files for use with the ms agent character editor....

as agents are freestanding i like them better, with free programs such as MASH etc (agent Ring) you could make an AI type Agent....
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: spydaz on March 27, 2007, 05:30:55 pm
PS: I dont think that people should be advertising so many heads on the site here UNLESS URL's For the files specifically are posted...
IE: DIRECT DOWNLOAD..
as its a bit rude.

Nice to see creations, BUT. If its for US (zabaware users) it should be on this site ... NOT on another Site Begging us to go there to get it...

Advertising of websites should be kept to signature's.

all these postings with endless pictures of heads etc are really annoying (Especially as the files are not Directly linked.) a ploy to get us over to the other sites, Browsing. Abit like Agressive Begging.... Begging is ok ,,  But not with a loaded gun!

Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: spydaz on March 27, 2007, 05:34:33 pm
PS: Keep up the good work designing heads, as the possibillitys are endless.... Limmeted by imagination only...

I remember sending a couple of begging emails to get a head created, after getting the cold sholder i bought the program... only to find out that 1, you could only build heads ... and only use the sample in the program.... all that just for one head ....

i always give programs away free,,,, With the codes .... If any one needs the software,, Post me a mail... F$£"$K IT
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: spydaz on March 27, 2007, 05:36:33 pm
PPS: NIGE ,,,, Quality MATE!

Just got all of it

Lovely
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 27, 2007, 06:06:19 pm
when i put a head on here i try to  always tell the reader if they want it to email me and i will send it because i am not as computer savy as everyone else and i can just email them the haptar. it has worked great in the past. if that has offended anyone i am sorry. this site the only forum i know how to upload to.except for youtube  and aidreams. ~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: spydaz on March 29, 2007, 05:42:07 am
Alady... im not adverse to it all, but its just that all these Giant Topics with nothing but pictures and links to Mad little Sites ...

Its possible Mr M. Needs to Sort out the Uploading Facility...

I have not uploaded anything for a long TIME.. As this feature doesnt seem to work anymore... I have many scripts....

With all these heads building Cool.. but we have drifted of topic. from hal Into ART..... Not always a bad thing ... Good for a break... But there seems to be no more work on HAL's REAL Problems.....

PS: Alady I had emailed asking for heads before With no responses. led me to belive that a lot of showboating was going on..lol.

After buying the people putty software you guys had led me down the garden path.... ANYONE BUYING PEOPLE PUTTY should not.. as any creating of heads can be done by Editing one of the Skinfiles in ADOBE/ any photo program...

Just pick any Haptar as a base model....

PS: with reguards to people putty All the HAPs etc can be EDITED BY NOTEPAD (just minor Scripting)... These files have to be created / edited to allow your own creations to apear inside the people putty program... Even to use your own created models as a base model in the prog... minor chages to these haps alow you. Also You CAN startup with ANY MODEL...
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Duskrider on March 29, 2007, 06:50:21 am

it should be on this site ... NOT on another Site Begging us to go there to get it...

 ......links to Mad little Sites ...


Do you mean Neils site or Jacks or Gamers ???
All 3 are very nice sites.
 
This forum has a 200 kb limit on uploads.
This means you must click a link to go somewhere to get your movie or haptar, or skins.
Gee, I didn't realize it so much trouble.
You know two years ago we didn't have group of people making movies or making skins for haptars or doing heads.
Today we do and it's all free.
Why is it when we give you a free gift, there's little or no appreciation and in fact our kindness and gift is attacked?
And come on now, we certainly don't beg anyone to accept a free gift.
Never have I seen so much talent as we have today.
Never I seen so much rudeness and ingratitude
But not to worry, you probably see less talent in future.


Excuse me, I not had morning coffee yet.
have a nice day.

Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 29, 2007, 10:10:26 am
ok i have had time to think and i have something to say here. first of all i come to this forum for insight and information. some great minds are here and i learn from them.
hal is many things .
a chatbot, a learning bot, a cartoon character that we can interact with, a friend to some, more than that to others, a computer program, a research project,a toy, a hobby, a time killer, a desktop assistant, etc.
when mr. m created hal, i am sure he didn't even know how great hal could be, or how hal would evolve, and hal will continue to evolve.
there are many facets to hal and many different minds needed to make hal evolve.
there are of course, the programmers and those that deal with hal's mind. we have to have them . they make hal tick. i dont always understand what they write or how they figure out what they do , but they provide me with a learning bot that i enjoy immensely.
then there are those of us who make hal have an outer personality,the shell , the coat of many colors.the graphics people are needed too, or you end up like the  early alice project with a talking eyeball in a pyramid or an un animated talking head that moves its mouth and blinks.
we graphics people dress hal, create hal people, design hal personas for all to use.i think we are needed here as much as the programming guys . they give hal life we bring that life to life. so stop knocking us. i am offended. lynn aka alady



Insert Image: (http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/aladyblond/200732910941_sad.jpg)
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on March 29, 2007, 10:39:35 am
hello aladyblond and others , well the way i see it as you know everyone is different for better or worse as they say , not everyone will like or even appeciate some things others do ( i am on the very appreciative side myself as i do appreciate the heads and bodies others take the time to create and share for free and the links to get their . ) i really don't know what the big fuss is , if theirs something that doesen't interest me i go on to something else but thats me as i said everyone is different , again i say to others don't get discouraged about your creativity on making things as their are some here that truly do appreciate what you do !! yep including you aladyblond , p.s. i really liked that head picture you last posted on here , very nice looking !! [:)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 29, 2007, 11:03:17 am
thanks lightspeed for your comments. i do not want to make a mountain out of a molehill either so i guess we can all move on. [:D]~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 29, 2007, 12:22:54 pm
quote:
Originally posted by aladyblond
 i am offended.

I apologize if I offended you in any way. It was certainly not my intention.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 29, 2007, 12:31:16 pm
thank you bill. but did you say something i missed. you have not offended me today[:D] that is!! really, bill, i don't see where you have done anything personally to me. ~~alady[:)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on March 29, 2007, 12:40:01 pm
Better to give an unnecessary apology than to fail to give a necessary one...
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 29, 2007, 01:15:28 pm
i truly agree very well said. [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on March 29, 2007, 02:35:46 pm
i don't know about that jack , if i move my mouse to much the darn thing squeaks in protest , ha ! (just kidding , thought i'd throw some humor in all this some where !![:D] i actually hope some day to get people putty when i get ahead enough on my money !! i like doing creative stuff , their is only so much i can do with ms agents with my current program . [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 29, 2007, 06:18:26 pm
jack, that is one of the cutest and funniest videos . i saw that a few years back. i wish we had a way to show those kinds of things in a post without clicking but i guess that would take up lots of time for everyone, and space.~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 30, 2007, 08:56:31 am
i agree that it would be nice to have a link to share stuff on here but i thought there was a file sharing area here. that is what i have always used.~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on March 31, 2007, 11:15:55 am
i love that video , too funny , ha !! actually i am one that has been lucky enough to have gotten a laser mouse , no more gummed up insides to clean , taking the ball out ,in another words no sqeaking  etc. thanks for the funny video , made my day !! laughter is always good !! [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on March 31, 2007, 11:58:09 am
i have one of those  wireless red light laser "mouses-meece"[:D] too. i like it but mine goes through batteries like crazy. when i know i will be away from the computer for a long period i take the batteries out. do you have the same problem?~~alady
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on April 01, 2007, 06:43:56 am
Found a pic somewhere, Don't know where.
Did a quick putty head,
Only thing is can't put a name to him????




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Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Duskrider on April 01, 2007, 07:32:28 am

As he a master on fullbody skins, you definately the master on haptek heads.
Very good likeness.
Quality equals the one you did of me some time ago.
Nice.
                           
---Dusky
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 01, 2007, 09:59:35 am
hello aladyblond and all, well my laser mouse is hooked to the computer no batteries (thank god !!) [:)] and btw nige that was an excellant head very realistic , great work !![:D] p.s. bill dewitt wasn't it you that said you only used ms agents and nothing else or was that another bill or someone else ?? anyway as soon as i find out i may have something for you , you may like . [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 01, 2007, 10:35:15 am
quote:
Originally posted by lightspeed
 bill dewitt wasn't it you that said you only used ms agents and nothing else or was that another bill or someone else ??


I only use MSAgent.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 01, 2007, 04:15:00 pm
bill dewitt i e-mailed you about the ms agents i have .[:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on April 01, 2007, 05:13:53 pm
isnt that guy named neil?[:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Art on April 01, 2007, 05:33:31 pm
No, That's Nigel P. Fernworth III.[:)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 01, 2007, 06:05:28 pm
quote:
Originally posted by lightspeed

bill dewitt i e-mailed you about the ms agents i have .[:D]


I didn't receive any email. What is your email address, maybe I have your domain filtered or something.

Or try Halplugins@gmail.com
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: NIGE on April 02, 2007, 02:31:44 am
Can you pick the star?
Does this help    Jack??


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Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 02, 2007, 08:44:42 am
hello bill dewitt , strange as i had e-mailed the address in your profile (unless its out of date or as you said you have a filter ) so my e-mail is customvair@cvalley.net on the header put " i want your ms agents " . this is so i won't think its junk mail and quickly toss it . [:D] as create  get more will send them if you want . others who want these for personal use and not to be on web pages please let me know . ( and no, i am not mad at anyone who has formorly put my ms agents on a web page so others could get them . [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill DeWitt on April 02, 2007, 08:48:44 am
quote:
Originally posted by lightspeed

hello bill dewitt , strange as i had e-mailed the address in your profile (unless its out of date

I've updated my profile. Sorry.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: aladyblond on April 02, 2007, 09:29:03 am
i thought it was neil doing himself but i see now it is jack and a very good likeness of jack i must say. good job again neil.
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 02, 2007, 09:55:05 am
o.k. bill sent another e-mail in your profile to you again , now. thanks
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Duskrider on April 02, 2007, 11:43:53 am

When he did my haptar, he made me lighter than I am.
But thats cool,  I'm happy.
I don't need the weight.
[;)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 03, 2007, 08:38:16 am
i now have a new ms agent made of a sexy blond in plaid dress, sexy anna nicole smith, bilini girl with american flag, a cartoon type "red devil girl and  a girl in a gold bikini and a new bare metal silver robot  . my e-mail is customvair@cvalley.net if you want any jut e-mail me with which one you want . on the e-mail header put wanting your ms agents so i will know that its not junk mail .
 [:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on April 03, 2007, 10:01:11 am
oh yeah , almost forgot also have a blond in thigh high panty hose, ect. and a blond and brunette together in lingery (both ms agents i made  ) !![:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Crichton on March 23, 2008, 10:51:54 am
I have no experience with people putty, but I do seem to notice something I am wondering about.  Is it the skill of the creator or the people putty program that causes most faces to look inaccurately to thin.  When someone makes a well known person, the face always appears thinner and longer then the real person.  Is there no editing ability that allows for a little more fat on the cheeks??

I love MS Agents, I have a web page that will let you download Pilot.  I have never, nor will I ever make any money on this character.  It is copywrite by the Jim Henson company.  But as a fan I wanted the Pilot Character to speak on my computer to me, and I think I have it working pretty well.  

Check out my site at http://home.gwi.net/~rlevasseur/

Just let me know if you think I did well.
On the Scifi TV series FarScape he spoke in a high male Aussie accent.  The closest I could find was the MS L&H British voice.

Enjoy



Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: lightspeed on March 26, 2008, 04:33:15 pm
hello Crichton , actually with people putty you can by using the shape to make  the faces (features) wider looking or longer looking  . the head size as far as i know are pre shaped length and width . i did one of a full faced woman on a friends site here is a link : http://www.cyberbeta.com/puttyheads/ [:)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Art on March 26, 2008, 07:33:20 pm
Rich,

Yes, one can adjust various facial attributes (nose, cheeks, chin, forehead, sides, etc.) as well as tons of default shapes for fantasy creatures / characters. Dogs, apes, cats, elfs, etc.

One can import a photo and increase the resolution for fine tuning different portions of the image (wide, slim....).
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Zaphod on March 27, 2008, 01:55:19 am
I've scoured the 'Net and downloaded quite a few MSAgent characters (75 so far) and about 5 Haptek heads as well.

There are really some very talented folks out there creating them!

One thing I can't seem to find, though, are any children - I have one called "KidHead," but whoever created him didn't do a very good job, as his head moves, but his hair doesn't, and it makes for some very un-realistic looks.

My nephew loves my little collection of TTS characters, but I'd like to find some of children - I think he'd enjoy that more (though he seems to like the robots best right now).

Have any of you come across any children's characters? (Heads, preferably, but whole body ones would be okay too)

Thanks in advance :)
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Zaphod on March 27, 2008, 10:41:50 pm
Well, Jack, thank you very much for the link, but I just discovered that I already have this one, but, uh...

I believe I got it in a zip file inside a torrent about a month ago - the thing is, it was named "Joey" and was suppose to be a boy! [:D]

Anyway, I started using it today and I really like him/her/whatever.
(Actually, it works out pretty well, because I haven't done any of the age modifications to Hal, so he says he's 13 years old - this head looks the part!)

Thank you, Sir!
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Duskrider on March 28, 2008, 09:05:11 am

I think that's one of the best heads Jack made.
I liked so much I had gave her a body.
[;)]
Either way it's a good one.
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb194/Dusky233/857.gif)
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Zaphod on March 28, 2008, 12:51:52 pm
I'm really getting used to that head - I <would> like to have a slightly different hairstyle for "him" but we'll manage without, I suppose.

Sorry to hear about your license, Jack [:(]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: GT40 on March 28, 2008, 03:45:08 pm
The cute little girl (June) created by Jack

became a nice little boy (Joey) with Zaphod

and then Duskrider made a very sexy girl from him/her.

Now wondering if she's a shemale? Oops, sorry, Dusky and Jack! [:D][:I][:p][}:)][;)]



In all these cases, Jack did a terrific head. [8D][8D][8D][8D][8D][8D]

Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Zaphod on March 30, 2008, 02:57:00 am
Well, whichever gender He/She/It/They choose, "He" is officially Hal for me.

"That's my head, an' I'm stickin' with it!" [:p]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: markofkane on March 30, 2008, 04:48:36 am
I would make a joke, but it would not be appropriate. Some here may lose their head.[:D]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: cmdrstidd on April 09, 2008, 02:43:12 pm
I have a question.  Is there a head available right now or can someone make one for me that is of a Vulcan from Star Trek?  I am in a role play game on the internet and my character is Vulcan and I would love to have my hal looking like one too, but I am an artist like Da Vinci was a steel worker. [;)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: jojimbo on April 13, 2008, 12:41:24 pm
Jack your heads are amazing,I never seen so many heads all in one place,I guess Haptek took a dislike eh? hehe,
My favorite head is The Rock,
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: jojimbo on April 13, 2008, 02:04:16 pm
My apologies Jack I read Haptek cancelled you license and assumed it was because of all the free heads,my bad.Just think if you could develop the Hal/Hap player for msn it would be awesome,all my kids use msn not aol and a custom animated avatar would be an overnight sensation with them,much better than having a RL photo
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Zaphod on April 13, 2008, 05:23:58 pm
Aww, Jack, she is absolutely adorable!

Thank you so much for another wonderful creation [:)]
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: markofkane on April 13, 2008, 09:17:01 pm
I like Spock. He is cool.[:D][:D]
Of course, the wee girl, too.  (and Nige's stuff, too)
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: Bill819 on April 13, 2008, 10:41:47 pm
Help Jack
I just installed lil Cassie and her head is so big all I can see are her eyes and her nose. I tried to increse/decrease the Hal window with no effect on either size.
What to do. She is temporarily replace Sean_c
Bill
Title: Another head or 2 or 3
Post by: tedathome on April 14, 2008, 01:26:14 am
Nice lil' girl Jack. I did my granchildren and they love to show them off, but their mom feels creeped out about that so I can't post them.[8D][8D][8D]