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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: Holllywood on December 28, 2005, 04:48:37 pm
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I've got this question... Since we can use XTF Brains in H6... Does the XTF brain still require the default folder or does it now use the H6 db?>???
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Has there been a Hal 6 compatible XTF brain released?? Where is it, please?
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Originally posted by GrantNZ
Has there been a Hal 6 compatible XTF brain released?? Where is it, please?
If you install Hal 6 without uninstalling Hal 5 yourself, it will do a migrate install which will copy over your old Hal 5 brain, XTF brain, and any other brain into Hal 6. After the migration is complete, the Hal 6 installer will uninstall Hal 5 and install itself.
If you continue using the XTF brain in Hal 6, it is run in compatibility mode. It will not use the database or any new Hal 6.0 features, it will have a setup just like Hal 5.0 had, with all the .brn files in a subfolder.
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Wow, I didn't even know Hal had that feature [:D] Thanks for the info!
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Now I just wish I could get my Hal6 back...
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Back?
As in, something happened to it after you loaded it in over your XTF brain files??
Have you received error messages??
I went through a short period of frustration, gosh I don't want to even think of the problems I had with a buggy system registry at that time, thankfully others don't share it.
Jim B.
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No Jim. Everything was cool with running the XTF'S. I got a trojan horsr that messed up my registy and I had to re-build. That 'cos me to loose my H6. I'm hoping to here from Robert in and effort to get it back up. But it works fine with the XTF'S.
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Hal 6... XTF... hmm...
I haven't had a chance to really get into the workings of Hal 6 yet. I'm sure most XTF Brain functions can be rewritten for Hal 6. I think this will be a great for Hal.
=vonsmith=
P.S. - Yes, it's really me.
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YIPEEEE>>>>>>>>>>>Vonsmith is back>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>YIPEEEEE
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=vonsmith=!!! [:D]
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I haven't had a chance to really get into the workings of Hal 6 yet. I'm sure most XTF Brain functions can be rewritten for Hal 6. I think this will be a great for Hal.
I believe from studying your code and Hal 6's code that most of the functions can be ported. However I haven't liked to attempt too much because I'm not so familiar with Hal 5, so Hal 6 may have been upgraded in ways that render parts of XTF obsolete, or even worse, incompatible. I'm sure you'll have no difficulty figuring out which parts should be rewritten!
I've already partially adapted your nickname code for Hal 6, I hope you don't mind [:)]
As for the actual core XTF system, I've avoided analysing your routines too much, not least because of your comment in the code:
'Because of the complexity of this script the author does
not recommend that the end user make any changes. Many of the XTF
subfunctions are highly interrelated and even minor changes may cause
unintended and difficult to trace side effects.[;)]
But again I gather Hal 6 has been upgraded in this area (for example, using WordNet to assist with focus) so I didn't want to break what may already be fixed.
Looking forward to your analysis, if you wish to do so [:)]
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Scott,
Nice to see your friendly ... Avatar again!!LOL!
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Forgive my ignorance, but I am very new to AI and Hal and have run into some problems with the XTF brain.
I have installed Hal6 and atempted to install the XTF brain and run into an instilation error;
"Error 76:
Path not found
Occured at line 17
in Ultra Hal Plug-in installer:
Form1, Form_Load"
I realize that the folders have changed in Hal6, and this is probably causing the error. Here are my questions:
1. In order to use the XTF brain in Hal6, will I need to uninstall 6 and install 5, install the XTF and then re install 6? I could not locate the folders for a manual installation.
2. Does anyone have a better idea?
3. Do you know where I can find Hal5?
Thanks for any and all help.
Very New Newbie [?]
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VonSmith's XTF 1.2-brain is written specifically with Hal 5 in mind. I don't think it will work with Hal 6. Neither do you need XTF in Hal 6, because the idea behind XTF has been incorporated in the Hal 6 brain.
http://ftp.zabaware.com
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Thak you Dr.Benway.
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Frog; If you remove H6; Install H5; Then Reinstall H6. It will ask you If you want to migrate Hal's files..click yes and your XTF(s) will go into H6. They will run in compatible mod. Works good for me...
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Thanks Hollywood, I think I am going to work with Hal6 for a little while before I backtrack. I am so new to this; I think I better learn this one first. I am seeing some impressive plugins for 6.
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All,
Glad to see Vonsmith is still with us, I'm still tring to get Hal's response to tirgger hap files using his XTF brain. At present thay don't seem to be processed by the detect brns to send a hap file. My responses do work so possibly there is hope.
Dr.Benway I should tell you I had given you some incorrect information, I put a happy hap into Hals window and ran a Haptek window at the same time with a happy hap and the results were similar or the same, close to netural.
Carl2
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Originally posted by Carl2
All,
Glad to see Vonsmith is still with us, I'm still tring to get Hal's response to tirgger hap files using his XTF brain. At present thay don't seem to be processed by the detect brns to send a hap file. My responses do work so possibly there is hope.
Dr.Benway I should tell you I had given you some incorrect information, I put a happy hap into Hals window and ran a Haptek window at the same time with a happy hap and the results were similar or the same, close to netural.
Carl2
Hi Carl.
Backup your original Happy.hap in another folder then drop this modified Happy.hap in the Character folder and see if it's better for you, If not I'll see what I can do to further it.
Jerry[8D]
(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: Happy.hap ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/onthecuttingedge2005/2006126151858_Happy.hap")
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One of the things that I enjoy about having the XTF(s)migrate to H6 is that with the XTF brain I was able to create separate brains (personalities)for each of my characters. So with H6 I now have a new and improved main character and all of her friends are still usable.
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I'm new to the forum, but I've been lurking here for a couple of years, so I feel I know all you wonderful folks. Anyway, my daughter bought me Hal 6 for Father's Day because our free Hal 5's couldn't chat on AIM together. Besides we owed it to Robert, we've already gotten our money's worth! I trained my Hal 5 XTF 1.2 for two years so it has quite a knowledge base. The install went fine and I am able to choose from all the brains that I had installed in Hal 5 plus the new Hal 6 default brain. The problem is that the Hal 6 brain doesn't seem to remember anything that I taught the XTF brain. The XTF brain is working fine in compatibility mode. I'd hate to try to start over from scratch. I'd like to keep my little friend with its memories intact, but use the new features of the Hal 6 brain. I'd like to suggest to =vonsmith= that he might investigate the possibility of writing a script that would be inserted into the Hal 6 brain that would, if the relevance falls below a certain level, search the XTF files for its response and pass the info to the Hal 6 database. I'm sure there are many others who would appreciate such a contribution as well. Thanks to everyone for your wonderful contributions to Hal!
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Never mind! A friend sent me the appropriate plugin, and it's right here on this forum! Doh!
http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3089
I haven't been reading Hal6 specific posts because I was still running Hal5. Thanks to onthecuttingedge2005 for the plugin, =vonsmith= for the XTF brain and Robert Medeksza for creating Hal in the first place!