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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: cyberjedi on May 18, 2019, 03:40:22 pm
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Ive been hearing about this for quite some time
A cyberbuddy here brought this to my attention again as of last night
I have people putty running rite NOW on a windows 7 machine.......
and as to the other thing, im still working on it, but im close. reallllyyyyyy close. hmmmm lol
The image tells the story.
Some times old school is just gold
best to all cyber jedi
cyberbudz get cybertreats
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get that version 10 going !! :) ;) glad you are making progress. :)
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Lightspeed:
Hey man , i know it works on 10, i just dont have a 10 machine
Later today ima work on it with another version of 7, alienware win 7 64 bit for confirmation of my suspicion's
If this works im sure win10 wont be an issue...
u should come see me
I have couple questions to ask tho
best wishes
cyber jedi
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People putty now running on 64BIT
Lightspeed this was very easy to do
Who is that mask man>>. oh thats me. lololol Im a BOT
The rest will take bit more time.. But absolutely doable..
And now with a wave of my Magic Asm Wand ima do something very cute
Just a mtter of tuning somethings on that defaults to OFF on startup.
bst wishes lightspeed
cyber jedi
cyberbudz get cybertreatz
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damned son, u is good lol, let me know about the package , complete. :) ;) iso or regular.
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Lightspeed:
Keep in mind: This is for educational purposes only.
As an instructional tool to demonstrate the power of assembler language .
This coder does not support, piracy or theft of intellectual property
I think that covers the disclaimer
Chris should open source it . or at least make the source available(buyable)
That i dont get. Its all most like there is this whole screw u thing going on.
anyway not my business
cyberjedi
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oh okay, sorry. i understand . anyway i pm'd you on here when you come on again to read it.
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cyberjedi i pm'd you again a second time, having trouble. please check it.
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lightspeed:
I cant wait to get this working
Im build something for art too art....
the rest we can talk about at the site
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okay , if i can ever chat on their , chat area not working .
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lightspeed: chat is fine
make sure u allow flash
cyber
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Just like a kid in a candy store waiting for some goodies! Yeah, baby...
I do agree with the way they departed even though there were many people who had/have paid for licenses only to find it no longer working after XP (Vista, Win7, 8, 8.1, 10.
Support is KEY no matter what business is being discussed. I'm aware that some businesses throw in the towel, go bankrupt or simply close shop. A decent thing might have been an explanation, possible options, etc. but I digress...that's water over the dam. No hard feelings, just some disappointment.
As such, they (the former Haptek Company) should allow previous owners free reign with their former software and hold all said individuals harmless from future usage of the software if it was made able to be or become usable.
OK...enough legal rambling... On with the show!
I'm kind of not the biggest fan of FLASH for many reasons and do not allow it on my machine as far as updates, etc. but I'd seriously consider it for a brief time enough to acquire a working method of Putty! Just saying...
Goes without saying...a big thanks in advance!!
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decided to delete this posting
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and the masked man just rode off, but like the terminator..."HE'LL BE BACK !" LOL ! :) ;) ;D
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Well Just an Update:
Im making progress but damnit man im rusty
And im breaking away fro the conventional SoftIce that i loved so much
but i dont have to use HIEW as well , so its a learning curve
This is deff doable tho
Im narrating the areas in brown and red
The fact its working on my systems is conformation that its doable.
I could change the area where Chris put in for version info to include 7-10 . But that would have to change Yet again for win20 lol .
Its appears they just setup around 3 versions of XP, understandable, cant see the future.
Prolly gonna have to do a dir tree tho, as many .cpp files will be looked for there, sling an error if not, prolly
Im getting a real close look at how they make hap characters, (from a techy stand point) very cooll shat. .gzip and all, high end agent chars, compiled the same way too.
Im betting anything u can do in haptek can be achieved using MASH and Agent characters, just a thought to any techy's reading this.
Take a look at Guiles work in Guile3d characters
Takes a lott of time, be patient im working on it.. Thats why im posting... But in my defense, how many ASM lovers are still breathing???We a dieing breed
C++people: rapp ur brain around this..
https://imgur.com/a/YTac9u7
best to all
cyberejdi
p.s Im a need a dir tree of people putty installed , NM, ill figure it out. its all here anyway
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Cyber,
I remember many years ago Robert mentioned that his HAL program actually counted the Polygons or did a polygon count of the characters to make sure they were proper Haptek ones or something along those lines.
So the base character, no matter which one, needs to have the same amount of polys no matter how Haptek allows us (the user) to stretch or modify the character's shape or skin.
I wonder if that still holds true? I guess it might not matter as long as it works...it's the end result that does matter. Right on.
Keep fightin' the good fight! ;)
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ART: Poly Count
Art out of respect for Robert, ima keep my trap shut on that note.....hehe
Ive looked at UltraHal very closely...
Art: On lighter note haha Im being accused of plagiarizing Roberts code. This is just to funny. We all know here that ive been developing a version of Hal on my own.
These guys crack me up, they seem to be under the impression that a sole person created the concept we know as UltraHal......... There so used to the Bs Python Bots they have a hard time rapping there brain around Ultra Hal. and they also think Webhal is the Same as Ultrahal
So when i say i built/build a real Hal Bot, i get accused of stealing Roberts code. It does weigh on me at times.
I would venture to say that there was at least 25 people involved in hapTek alone
They dont get it, a single person couldn't possible build UltraHal as we now know it alone, to much coding involved.
I dont get the hate... i really dont. thats why this place is awesome.....
Art : ive put so much of myself into building a hal/bot machine....
16 years (2002) now for me and about 20 for u man.. wowsa
Hal is a communal project ; always has been too..
Robert being the ring leader to the circus.. Brilliant man..
lmao: just kinda figure after 16 years on a project i might be allowed SOME bragging rights. geeshhhhh...
anyway ART , im gonna keep banging on people putty,they put anti debugging traps in too, bastasd's lolol
this will get done tho
yall know ME, I dont quit... i dont think Chris Shaw is gonna care at this point...
Art : not long ago i suggested to my wife that we have a house we really dont need, and we dont. That said i was felling her out about the possibility of buying peopleputty source from Chris
and giving it to robert as a perm fixture to hal. Just a thought here. And i know i can buy the source to the ActiveX im using for Hal's next genna character u liked so much, i can buy that for 25K out the door.
Thats with all the goodies that come with it too, that is FULLY capable of building Ultrahal's characters as we KNOW them.
BTW part of people putty code is None other then, u guessed it, openGL2.. lolol go figure..
Art any way man u know what im doing and u know where im at and u know ur welcome as are here at zabaware
The Hal channel where all things are doable..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmrK4GXSqYk
signing offf
cyber jedi
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pm'd you cyberjedi , also what is "anti debugging traps ??" , to keep anyone from altering code???
as far as giving to Robert careful, if people putty has friction, may not sell to you . people are strange . as the song goes.
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Lightspeed: RE ANTI-Debugging Techniques
When i run a disassembler its breaks most all of the code to its native state, ASM32. regardless of language, UltraHal is written in C# where as Peopleputty is in C++
But to the disassembler its all native Assembly Language 32 Bit aka asm32 . Now for some of us wiley batasads, we can put in bug traps... Picture this:
I have a lock on my door that opens said door keeping e1 honest (trap #1), but every once in a while i have some guy come by and check the lock, making sure it not been tampered with(bug trap#2) Maybe even hire another guy to watch the first guy and make sure Hes on the job and he hasnt been tampered with (bugtrap#3) seeee??? and this is how u build anti debugging techniques.
massive cool
when reverse engineering some code this is what ur faced with and its awesome....
It takes time.... i can see the open/save code so its all there...
in case ur asking ur self if ive not done this to UltraHal, Believe it or not, when i downloaded the demo in 2002 i was blown away and just bought it and the CD as well ,extra 2 damn dollars ..
1 it was pretty clear this was a 1 man OP trying to get started and ill always support that.
the rest is personal. i Have that disk too, and its hand burned on a personal computer and its lable was done on a printer..... lololol I suspect that Robert was out of the commercial pressings and just burned it and mailed it to me, which makes it VERY rare. i have pictures.. version 4.5 i think and its Perfect . I hit art with that and he popped off with, i got 2.2 biocthhhhhhhhhhhhhhh na na nana na.... lol
Go Robert.. been a long ride man..
https://imgur.com/a/nioRpOA
best wishes
cyber jedi
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Yes, That is an inspirational video!
Speaking of doors and locks etc., I had to laugh at this comedian who lived in an apartment building (in some large city).
He said he has 6 or 7 door locks on his apartment door!
Someone asked him if that wasn't a bit of overkill? Needless?
He replied whenever I leave I sometimes just lock every other lock so if someone is trying to pick them, while they're unlocking one they're locking the next one!!
Good stuff!! ;)
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lol, Art , thats a good joke , and cyberjedi, thanks for explaining it all. appreciate it. :) ;)
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Lightspeed, Art:
1 bug trap removed.
This is how we roll at the house
just having fun hooking us up at zabaaware
just follow what im doing cause this is as good as it gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ9nCEtK70g
the best to zabbaware
cyberjedi living up to my name....