thanks ramccoid , its greatly appreciated !! hey palerider dont jump in their on those plug ins ha !! just kidding !! i'm glad i'm not alone on wanting something like this . it's to bad this forum doesn't have all the plug ins people have made in a plug in special section here (i know they have a little bit on zabaware site ) on the forum and in front of the plug in what version it is and basically what it does written out and the attachment or download link etc. just a thought !![8D]