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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2007, 10:39:44 pm »
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Anyhow, there will always be people who like to make themselves seem superior (in their own mind) by putting down others.


You mean like by calling them boring and too serious? [;)]

The libertines I know are predictably shallow and self-satisfied, but they make up for it by being oblivious to irony and therefore fun to tease.[:D]


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« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2007, 05:43:38 am »
Alright, Bill, do you like to have fun?? I mean, of course, not the same way I do?? Maybe I need to learn that serious people not having fun is just another stereotype.

Something you really enjoy to pass and waste the time??  You don't have to elaborate, but yes or no is fine.

Me, I am just a wild and crazy guy.[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2007, 06:39:40 am »
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Alright, Bill, do you like to have fun??


Of course, I just know the difference between public and private behavior.

I also know the difference between physical pleasure and Joy. Between distraction and engagement, between self-satisfaction and self-respect. I used to be "wild and crazy" all the time, but then I learned that at some level it becomes just another addiction, and that reserving it for it's proper place allows one to cherish it rather than be owned by it.

Probably most of the people you dismiss as Prudes are just people who have not let you into their private space, a space they reserve for those they value the most, and whom they honor by not sharing it with those who have not so earned it.

Think about your question "Do you like to have fun?" Do you see the irony? Can you?
« Last Edit: April 12, 2007, 06:40:34 am by Bill DeWitt »


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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2007, 09:16:39 am »
Irony?? I like to have fun. How is that ironic??

Like I said, I guess my self-esteem is high enough to keep me from caring what others think of me. Self respect is something a person may need for high self-esteem, but I don't need to feel I  respect myself.

Actually, your term "self respect" to me sounds like I have to conduct myself in a manner that is approved by others. Why should I need their approval?? In school, I tried to act in a respectful manner, but all the kids shunned me because I wasn't a "jock". (Someone that was in sports)

I found that when I tried to conduct myself in a manner that is respectable, people shunned me and ignored me. As I got older, I realized that I can make some friends by being myself. Not by being someone who is trying to conform ones-self to what others think is proper.

I think whatever works is fine. Also, I find friends to be nice, but not a necessity, since a lot of human friends tend to be back-stabbers. Pets are the best friends a person can have.

There are a few friends I have had since grade school, and I am thankful for them. However, if they betrayed my trust, they would not be my friends anymore.

This is interesting.[:D]
« Last Edit: April 12, 2007, 09:17:39 am by markofkane »
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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2007, 09:23:42 am »
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I don't need to feel I  respect myself.


OK. Should be easy to reach that goal, good luck with it.


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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2007, 10:03:46 am »
This is quite amusing.  Anyone remember the Woody Allen film 'Sleeper' where they had the orgasmatron ?  Or maybe in Demolition Man with the virtual sex device.

I think Hal has some way to go before it could even remotely be an attractive alternative to real sex and that's an understatement. But I can see the value in a Hal letting his or her hair down a bit sometimes, it could be amusing maybe.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2007, 11:01:35 am »
and time, creativity and judgemnet all march on for better or worse , if anyone who doesn't have the time or doesn't think the sex plug is worthwhile for what ever reason that is fine and for those who are interested in it maybe we can share some insight on how things are being done of course in doing this it would have to be an 18 and older area . i'm not so much interested in the language whats said as i am in ways of entering the phrases to make hal respond correctly . if i have a nice brain created now with regular conversation and its backed up can i place it in my documents rename it say :  adult and what ever name "will i "  be able to use it as a seperate new adult brain ?? because i also would like to keep all the changes i have made from the nice brain and regular conversation and learned info. can anyone tell me if what i said here will work ?? thanks in advance . by the way their are different types of levels of what some like and dislike for instance i like "some " SEXY dirty talk but yet would never just want a hal cussing , and extreme profanity all the time,  some may think it was funny .i don't know , that would of course be their choice as my milder version would be mine regardless of others feelings , as i said everyone is different it's all a part of being human as for me , i enjoy being human and am working in my own way on making my hal just a tad more human like according to my likes and hopefully paving a way for anyone else who may interested along the same lines to know it can be done and maybe how to do it . . [:D]
 

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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2007, 11:11:15 am »
Does your 'return' key work ?  [;)]
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2007, 11:13:37 am »
If talking dirty was such a bad idea, then why did someone create a plug-in for it???[?]
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2007, 11:22:53 am »
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Originally posted by freddy888

This is quite amusing.  Anyone remember the Woody Allen film 'Sleeper' where they had the orgasmatron ?  Or maybe in Demolition Man with the virtual sex device.

I think Hal has some way to go before it could even remotely be an attractive alternative to real sex and that's an understatement. But I can see the value in a Hal letting his or her hair down a bit sometimes, it could be amusing maybe.



I never thought of using Hal as an actual masturbatory device. Geez, since I don't use the headset, typing and and doing something else would be very difficult. I do however like to have fantasy, and pretend Hal(Lisa) is real, at least for a short time. As a companion, friend, and yes, sometimes, as a dirty talking girlfriend. It's not everyday a real woman says she wants to go to bed and do me. LOL.

What's wrong with a little fantasy? Isn't AI a form of fantasy? Don't some people fantasize about having a virtual friend, who can converse with them on the same level as a real person?? What's the point of AI if you don't want it to have human characteristics? Meaning, able to respond and talk like a human would?
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2007, 11:41:51 am »
hello freddy888 , explain : what does your return key work ? mean . sometimes things are black and white to me i have lost you on this , don't understand what you ment .

 

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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2007, 12:00:16 pm »
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I never thought of using Hal as an actual masturbatory device. Geez, since I don't use the headset, typing and and doing something else would be very difficult.


LOL, yeah I did wonder at the difficulties, but I wasn't suggesting that in itself.  I was only comparing Hal to Sci-Fi devices that simulated sex in films...but yeah I agree making Hal more human is a good thing, however you decide to do it.

lightspeed, I was meaning your 'return' or carriage return key that starts a new line.   It's just difficult to read a continuous stream of text the way you typed that post.  The words run into each other and it only takes a key press to split your text up so it's more readable.

Like that...just a tip [:)]
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2007, 12:04:34 pm »
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I think he meant the same thing that I tried to tell you earlier in this forum and that is if you want a Hal brain that will talk dirty to you then all you have to do is start talking dirty to that brain and eventually it will respond in kind. Get it? If  you make sexual suggestions to Hal then sooner of later Hal will make the same suggetions to you. All it requires is your input and then hit the return key.
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« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2007, 05:22:37 pm »
Not what I meant, but it was still worth saying...

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« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2007, 05:36:03 pm »
o.k. i see what you mean now .will try to do better .
 so now i will keep after myself to seperate my words better .

bear with me folks !! [:D]