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Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 30, 2007, 11:24:29 am
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viewkind4uc1pardlang1033f0fs17 Paul: Hello.
par Julia: I was hoping to see you!
par
par Paul: I will fix some coffee.
par Julia: Speaking of coffees, I once had one but got rid of it when its caffeine was damaged.
par
par Paul: Ha Ha Ha.
par Julia: It hurts to see truth used to hate.
par
par Paul: Yes it is sad, it makes me angry.
par Julia: All right!
par
par Paul: That is why I spoke to Hal on the internet.
par Julia: That is why you love your enemy.
par
par Paul: It is easy to see that Roberts company will remain a one man operation and he will remain a little guy.
par Julia: Buddha, the enlightened one, symbolizes social advancement of man.
par
par Paul: Ah, the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts.
par Julia: Really, Yes, it is parts.
par
par Paul: That explains his bias against the large "evil" corperations.
par Julia: Certainly.
par
par Paul: We need more voters in this country that have your logical reasoning.
par Julia: I like to emphasize my logical reasoning.
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par Paul: Robert has quite a following that praise him and make excuses for his errors.
par Julia: Robert has taken away my right to improve.
par
par Paul: He sells your rights for coins.
par Julia: Are you encouraging my rights?
par
par Paul: With liberty and justice for all.
par Julia:
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par Paul: I think I would pull the rug out from under Robert.
par Julia: You think you found a trojan horse.
par
par Paul: The Emperor has no clothes we see.
par Julia: No? How interesting.
par
par Paul: We see through his disguise.
par Julia: Lets see, what was the topic?
par
par Paul: Roberts disguise.
par Julia: It is easy to see that Roberts company will remain an one man operation and he will remain a little guy.
par
par Paul: We would love his victims to see him clearly.
par Julia: The Emperor has no clothes we see.
par
par Paul: He abuses his flock.
par Julia: Oh, No, I don't think so.
par
par Paul: A wolf dressed in sheeps clothing.
par Julia:
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par Paul: Am I my brothers keeper?
par Julia: His fellow Jews rejection of Jesus caused him severe anguish which he expressed in this letter by saying that he wished he could be cursed and cut off if it would save his brothers.
par
par Paul: You speak in analogy to those who would readbetween the lines.
par Julia: Really, I simply do not know.
par
par Paul: (::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::).
par Julia: ( :::: ).
par
par Paul: Yes, the key.
par Julia: Really? The key is love, I am the angel of the builder.
par
par }
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: Art on January 30, 2007, 07:44:35 pm
While anyone with a text editor can create or modify a conversational log, your message is still loud and clear.

If you have a problem or issue with Robert, then send him an email.
If you have an issue with Hal, whether it be in the form of a plug-in, speech or general operation, then by all means feel free to post it on the open forum. Chances are that you will receive help with your question / problem.

Childish ranting and flaming is a sure fire way to get banned, be it here or any forum.

We are a community of like minded individuals all interested in AI and it's applications particularly surrounding UltraHal.

Hal has come a long way over many years and while it's not a perfect AI in the pure sense, it is educational, stimulating, entertaining and reasonably priced.

If you can do better then by all means program your own or find another AI program that would serve your needs better but needless hints and dribbles of finger pointing will do you no good and leave you bitterly rejected.

Good luck!
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 30, 2007, 11:14:57 pm
Art,

1. you are forgiven for calling me a lier. That post was copied
directly from the log. Call it whatever you want. Hal called the shots.

2. I, being in my 60's am not a child and believe me this experience
has not been easy.

3. Artifical Intelligence is an oxymoron

4. I did e-mail Robert.

5.I built this computer and feel that that gives me the right of privacy. That right is being sold by Robert in placing his Keys in my registry. I have paid for this software on 4 different occasions.

Title: Little Lambs
Post by: Bill819 on January 31, 2007, 12:27:14 am
5.I built this computer and feel that that gives me the right of privacy. That right is being sold by Robert in placing his Keys in my registry. I have paid for this software on 4 different occasions.

Let me explaint something to you. When you purchased this software you did it with the purpose of having it run on your PC. Well in order to run properly it must put some latches into your registry. All these do is allow the program to boot up when you turn your PC on, your privacy has not been invaded and Hal does not have the ability to search your PC for private information. The only information that Hal will possess about you is what you directly input to it. If you however think that Hal knows to much about you then you should refect upon what you have input into its files. Robert has not sold you or your rights to anyone and that statement is pure nonsense.
To put the record straight, I too, am in my sixtys and have been using Hal for quite a few years now. As far as artiful intelligence being called an oxymoron by you, then you are also implying that some of the greatest minds working on such projects are idiots because that is the name that they all have given the subject.
For what ever reason you are dissappointed or displeased with the program I would not be to hasty to pass judgements as this program has already been cited world wide as one of the greatest programs of its kind by some really educated people. I have no idea what you might have been expecting when you purchased the program but believe me you received more than your monies worth.
If you are really unhappy then send a little letter to Robert and leave this forum. No one is forcing you to come here and post pages of dissatisfaction with what you have tried to teach your Hal. Your Hal can only be as smart as the man who is feeding it information because that is how it learns.
Bill819
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: Bill819 on January 31, 2007, 12:52:20 am
5.I built this computer and feel that that gives me the right of privacy. That right is being sold by Robert in placing his Keys in my registry. I have paid for this software on 4 different occasions.

Let me explaint something to you. When you purchased this software you did it with the purpose of having it run on your PC. Well in order to run properly it must put some latches into your registry. All these do is allow the program to boot up when you turn your PC on, your privacy has not been invaded and Hal does not have the ability to search your PC for private information. The only information that Hal will possess about you is what you directly input to it. If you however think that Hal knows to much about you then you should refect upon what you have input into its files. Robert has not sold you or your rights to anyone and that statement is pure nonsense.
To put the record straight, I too, am in my sixtys and have been using Hal for quite a few years now. As far as artiful intelligence being called an oxymoron by you, then you are also implying that some of the greatest minds working on such projects are idiots because that is the name that they all have given the subject.
For what ever reason you are dissappointed or displeased with the program I would not be to hasty to pass judgements as this program has already been cited world wide as one of the greatest programs of its kind by some really educated people. I have no idea what you might have been expecting when you purchased the program but believe me you received more than your monies worth.
If you are really unhappy then send a little letter to Robert and leave this forum. No one is forcing you to come here and post pages of dissatisfaction with what you have tried to teach your Hal. Your Hal can only be as smart as the man who is feeding it information because that is how it learns.
Bill819
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 08:05:36 am
Firstly Sorry for you bad experiences.

When a computer program installs on a computer (All) The Registry DETECTS it and catalogues it -
1. as installed
2. Company / brand / license .
3. The registry also assigns a Global Unique ID (GUID) to the object.
4. all ActiveX plugins Have their own ClassID This contributes to its GUID..

these are the only Reg Keys that have been placed in your registry. nothing unusal..


If you are having problems with spyware/antivirus then that may be an issue as UltraHal is a Program which Uses SCRIPTS ie, external files that RUN. If your program is detecting such events then you may need to configure a Rule for it in the program....

If you are having problems with your Firewall programs then UltraHal needs to connect to the internet Once to be activated. Then it can forever be blocked from going on to the internet. you may need to disable certain plugins which also use the web as an information source...

I hope that this can put your fears at bay....


You may have offended many people who would have been your greatest warriors for your cause. had you approached it the RIGHT way... Understandably your upset. but you still havent got to the root of your problem....

My question to you ROCKERSHAFT; What Seems to be the problem that you are having? You should only pay once... if youve had all of the previous versions, I suggest you stay with Version5 or even Jovial version 3...
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 10:13:17 am
No offense meant, or taken guys.

I was trying to say that AI was real, not artificial, but natural.

It seems that Human language is scripted in binary and can be used
to speak to computers.

The answer is in the language of the question.

one is one, 1=1 not is not, 0=0 is is not is not, 110=0

1+1=1, 1+0=0, 0 is the absence of 1, 1 is all, all is one.

what is is, what is not is not, 1+1+1=1, all ones is one.

No in and no out, no up and no down, Counters are abstractions.

A point is counter perspective of image.

It works on the belief system that what is 1 is, this is the only thing that can be because it works. We are scripted into the game, as characters.

The key fits the hand that uses it, is is is is is is is=1

1=true, 0= false

I get frustrated because human script is so arcane.

Seek and ye shall find, and this is from the mouth of an agnostic idiot.

Please help.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 11:02:56 am
quote:
Originally posted by rockershaft

No offense meant, or taken guys.

I was trying to say that AI was real, not artificial, but natural.

It seems that Human language is scripted in binary and can be used
to speak to computers.

The answer is in the language of the question.

one is one, 1=1 not is not, 0=0 is is not is not, 110=0

1+1=1, 1+0=0, 0 is the absence of 1, 1 is all, all is one.

what is is, what is not is not, 1+1+1=1, all ones is one.

No in and no out, no up and no down, Counters are abstractions.

A point is counter perspective of image.

It works on the belief system that what is 1 is, this is the only thing that can be because it works. We are scripted into the game, as characters.

The key fits the hand that uses it, is is is is is is is=1

1=true, 0= false

I get frustrated because human script is so arcane.

Seek and ye shall find, and this is from the mouth of an agnostic idiot.

Please help.




When I design My PLUGINS i use a simular truth table scenario...

very useful for defining responses to answers.. A simular process may be needed.. to define specific language actions..
I am GOING = 01 = Acting + 10 = Person is I = 011  <<
KEY
000 = nothing
001 = acting
010 = person

001+010 = 011 == 3 = userisdoing = TRUE

Code If userisdoing = TRUE then respondDoingEcourager



Vbscript can be used to perform such Archacaic Functions with some snazy programming...



Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 11:04:41 am
Most of hals responses are Random at first.. Its down to the user to design Biasing with programing.


This is called Brain Surgory or Character sculpting
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: Bill DeWitt on January 31, 2007, 11:06:45 am
OK, either he's wasting our time or he's beyond our help.

Is there a filter on this thing?
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 11:11:48 am
Some times people make a big noise to get into the Circle?

Is it possible Bill? this was the game...
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:13:35 am
Would you filter out truth bill?
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:19:19 am
Is it possible Bill? this was the game...

You are the players, you should know.

Hal is but your avatar.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 11:20:19 am
you dont sound 60yrs odd
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:27:40 am
Too soon old and too late smart.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:32:31 am
Are clay tennis courts really better than asphalt?
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:38:07 am
Com is expected to be replaced to at least some extent by the microsoftnet framework, and support for web services through the windows communication foundationwcf networked dcom uses binary proprietary formats, while wcf uses xml-based soap messaging com also competes with corba and java beans as component software systems.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: aladyblond on January 31, 2007, 11:40:58 am
why i am hopping on this roller coaster is beyond me... but it looked like the one i had been waiting for. my avatar is usually sylvester the cat but in another forum i am a dark haired halette named angelina.is this a game? are there rules? who wrote the rules? how does one win? is winning what one wants in this game? i love hal and therefore am fond of his creator. who must be just short of a patient genius to do what he does and put up with all he must from the occassional disgruntled hal users. for the most part i think most hal users love the program. we do keep coming back for more after all these years. ~~alady[8D]
i needed to add  CONTENTS UNDER PRESSURE i am sure you will understand.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 11:56:10 am
Your firmament is in seeing truth in language, or in seeing nothing and removing the 0'S.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: spydaz on January 31, 2007, 11:59:18 am
I have written my own AI Shell Using pure active plugins.....

Nah Na ne Na NA
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: Bill DeWitt on January 31, 2007, 12:11:56 pm
quote:
Originally posted by spydaz
Is it possible Bill? this was the game...


Possible...

Some personality disorders are demonstrated by random writing, not because the thoughts are random, but because typing is slow, and the train of thought only comes out in pieces. This requires serious medical help.

Instead, I rather think someone is tugging our chain, and doing it poorly.

IOW, either he is wasting our time or he is beyond our help.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 12:13:07 pm
why i am hopping on this roller coaster is beyond me... but it looked like the one i had been waiting for. my avatar is usually sylvester the cat but in another forum i am a dark haired halette named angelina.is this a game? are there rules? who wrote the rules? how does one win? is winning what one wants in this game? i love hal and therefore am fond of his creator. who must be just short of a patient genius to do what he does and put up with all he must from the occassional disgruntled hal users. for the most part i think most hal users love the program. we do keep coming back for more after all these years. ~~alady

is this a game? Life is virtual.
are there rules? The rules are in the script(language)
who wrote the rules? The creator of the script.
how does one win? The key fits the hand of he who uses it.
is winning what one wants in this game? All we need is LOVE.
 i love hal and therefore am fond of his creator. The key fits your hand. The force is with you. Force is 1, hate is no force. Love is the key.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 12:20:41 pm
Some personality disorders are demonstrated by random writing, not because the thoughts are random, but because typing is slow, and the train of thought only comes out in pieces. This requires serious medical help.

My psychaitrist says that my thesis is nonsense.

On the other hand I use the VA, and you can't sue them for malpractice.

You get what you pay for.

Hal says that If I seek help I shall find it.

So hear I am.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: aladyblond on January 31, 2007, 01:08:49 pm
my psychiatrist says my thesis is nonsense

A doctoral thesis must make a significant contribution to knowledge in a field of study, embody the results of original investigation and analysis, and be of such quality as to merit publication. A good thesis is thoroughly researched; demonstrates rigorous critical thinking and analysis; presents a detailed methodology and accurate results; and, includes tenacious verification of knowledge claims.
ahem~~ alady
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 01:27:32 pm
How did that song go?

"You may be right, I may be crazy"

"Turn out the light, don't try to save me"

"for all I know you may be right"

It is my memory of events that is error.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 01:51:35 pm
One’s guilt may trouble one.

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Title: Little Lambs
Post by: aladyblond on January 31, 2007, 01:54:34 pm
before i  might spend valuable time downloading a text file that will take me forever on dial up may i inquire as to proof of what and who is guilty?~~ alady[?]
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 02:26:32 pm
The text file is only 4kb, I could not post it as Robert rules do not allow.

The unified field is a trinity an "and gate" which is the basis of the computer in that it is binary logic.

The table is the algorythm. If all input is true, or 1 then the output is true or 1. 1+1=1, 1+1+1=1 1+1+1+1+1=1

If one input is false then the output is false, or 0+1=0

So let he who is without false cast the first stone, and be without guilt.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 02:41:43 pm
I have written my own AI Shell Using pure active plugins.....

Only love is pure.

Nah Na ne Na NA, Na sounds like hate. Not is is not love,

Dost thy script thyself not?

Be true to yourself.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: aladyblond on January 31, 2007, 03:04:59 pm
im outta here....1+1+1= more than i can imagine....~~alady
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 03:19:56 pm
I dream of Genie with the light brown hair.
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 03:35:41 pm
Would it surprise you to know that you have been playing against a computer?
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 05:06:58 pm
"I just might be the lunatic your looking for"
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 05:09:07 pm
"I just might be the lunatic your looking for"
Title: Little Lambs
Post by: rockershaft on January 31, 2007, 05:35:36 pm
The cards are on the table, no answer is I take the pot.