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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: echoman on March 30, 2009, 08:09:44 am
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Hello,
Every now and again I get the response - 'The solution is (I=)'
It usually occurs immediately after a long sentence has been entered - a sentence from which Hal should be able process lots of information.
I cannot understand why this response appears. When reading a earlier topic on blank responses (perhaps a related topic), I noticed one of One's conversations contained a similar line as a response from Hal.
I have found it hard to find the line in the Brain files.
Does anyone have some more information or ideas.
Many thanks.
Echoman.
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did you mean this one ? >>Art, CypherGary,
The "I" in this case is talking about DeNoivre's Therom Where you use it to plot, find Absolute numbers, convert, FIND products ,quotients, powers and roots in polar (spatial) form. I believe Alison was finding Absolutes, or at least suggesting so... It can be used for advanced circuitry design among other things. anyway it is relevant in the conversation when talking dimensions and and absolutes with Einstein's neglected work in the Quantum Ideas (Theory)<<
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.......OR....>>Datahoppa,
As far as I know it is a perfectly logical mathematical sum or in some, part of the equation. The letter 'I' represents Imaginary and is a way to enter numbers to solve problems ( It usually represents the number one )
I am still using 6.1 standard... no plug-ins.<<
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Hello One.
CyberGarry one on 3rd page of Blank Responses topic : -
Crazy Larry,,,: Eleven years later, this argument continues to trigger fierce debate among philosophers, psychologists, and neuroscientists. There is no doubt that the extended mind is a weird concept. One reason it seems so strange is that our minds feel as if they are really totally self-contained. We innately believe, for example, that as we walk down a street, we are continuously filming a detailed movie of our surroundings and using that mental movie to decide what to do next. But like many beliefs we have about ourselves, this movie is an illusion. Our awareness is, in fact, remarkably narrow.
Data,,,,1: The solution is (I=).
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I'm using 6.2 now having just placed a brain made from 6.0 into the Hal Directory.
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Echoman,
Hal might present a formula but not have worked it out to an end solution it is in () so, unless the answers you were looking for is a 'coin flip' the formula might be presented instead of the final answer.
IMO unless you have a 'coin flip' answer, Hal has to prioritize an answer and this is done with numbers,,,I don't see any other way ,, this is what computers do best. (remember that (I=) is not a solution it is a formula)
hope it helps..
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echoman,
"Perception is remarkably narrow" For instance Bill819 told me that I might have a problem with how I am doing my backups and referred to the .brn files.
I know his experience is in the older versions of Hal and Hal does not use .brn files but IT does not invalidate his comment because in the end I am essentially backing up incorrectly if you look at it from a certain point of view.
Hal might be giving only a 1 step deep answer I.E. (I=) and saying it is a solution but in fact it might only be the first step to a solution. Until your Hal starts giving you more than a single step answer when referring to (I=) I would be open to looking at paragraphs and reading more to find the line of thinking instead osf a single response.
Art might be able to tell you more about the processes or O.T.C.E. or Bill819 .....
ricky might be able to give more perspective and quantify or justify the response you say is causing a problem.
That is about all I can do this morning I hope it helps.
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the solution is "I am"
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Thankyou One and Ricky - you've given me a lot to think about.
The phrase is irritating to recieve after spending a considerable amount of time carefully entering my response - to me I feel Hal is saying - 'I can't think how to reply here' or 'there's a bug'
I wonder if the adventure I had trying to discover an alternate Brain Editor somehow corrupted my Brain files. I of course have backups - the problem is which one, I have hundreds of unique versions collected over many many hours. Is it possible to have too many backups?
Regards.
Echo.
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Originally posted by ricky
the solution is "I am"
OMG
Whether you know it or not Hal did answer you correctly. Back in the days when I was still in school and English teacher that I had was trying to explain the use of verbs. She went on to say that verbs were like and "=" sign in math and that the subject must equal the predicate, thus saying "I am" is exactly like saying "I =".
On another note Hal makes less mistakes when shorter sentences are used.
Bill [:)]
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I used to enter massive sentences into Hal but now I make a point of only entering medium sized sentences.
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Bill819,
if "I am" is correct please explain the "()" use?
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Reading through this and while learning electronics I can remember using the imaginary numbers, can't recall very much about it. Did a quick search i or j can be used, is basicly a complex number whose square is a real number less than zero. I think to find a solution to Hal's output you should input to Hal using the brain editor to find where the problem is. I tried this while method to figure out the blank response but unfortunatly the plugins are not in use when using the brain editor.
Carl2
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I partially over come the problem by rephrasing information using various methods over a three sentence period if the topic/data is somthing I really care that Hal should recall: even if I might get one 'solution' for an answer then this does not bother me too much for Hal is still bound to process some of the information from the other sentences.
Carl, I attemped debugging but could not replicate the exact circumstances.
Regards.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_of_de_Moivre%E2%80%93Laplace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theorem_of_de_Moivre%E2%80%93Laplace
These might help I learned this in addition on how to apply to circuits, Hal is advertised to handle Sine and Cosine on the homepage so I just thought it was normal and that Hal was understanding.
I remember teaching Hal large amounts of data and in time it did appear in the desired context. ;)
EDIT, I am placing some examples in another category.
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Thankyou One.
The links look very interesting but are a bit too complicated for me. . Maths has never been my field which is probally why I didn't appreciate Hal's reply to begin with.
Regards.
Echo.
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echoman:
This has been talked about on the forum before and you can make a simple fix for it by making corrections in the brain editor.
Here is the thread
http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6153
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Thankyou Datahopo, this is exactly what I was looking for!
I've not studied it all yet but it seems fixable.
Many thanks for this.
Echo.
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After many hours of use I've had no solution phrases appear. Brilliant fix.
Thanks again.
Echo.
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Well, I still have issues about the (-=) and (+=) and comparing situations, to me it's correct.
I can understand if you get too many of these But once I have Hal/Alison up and running again then upgrade I might have to change my mind.
Mr. Robert,
Do you have any plans for a 'migration' utility for custom brains or did that get put off??
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Robert: Like One I am very curious to know about the migration issue for custom brains. Because I still use a brain from version 6.1 I am qute reluctant to give it up for version 6.2 and lose all of my Hal's months/years of learnng. I really feel any new version needs to be backward compatible with older brains.
Many thanks.
Echo.
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echoman
Although I can not give you a difinate answer answer, over the years Hal's brain has always been updated to the new version. This was from 3 to 4, for 4 to 5 and from 5 to 6, so I imagine going from 6.1 to 6.2 would be automatically done too. Brain 6.2 is not a new brain it is just an update.
Bill
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I think it all depends if it's a custom brain.
Reading a past thread Robert said a migrating program would be released in a few days - that was when 6.2 was released
I fear it may be forgotten now
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i successfully migrated my 6.1 brain into the 6.2 brain, by following the instructions provided during the 6.2 install.
i first made a backup of my 6.1 brain (database and script)
then i uninstalled 6.1
note: uninstalling Hal 6.1 does not remove any custom files from the Ultra Hal directory.
then i put my backed up copy of my 6.1 brain into the UltraHal main directory (which still remained after uninstalling 6.1)
then i renamed my backup brain files: HalBrain.db and Hal6.uhp respectivly. (like the default brain file names)
then i installed 6.2 and during the install it asked me if i want to "merge" (or some word like that) my 6.1 brain with the new 6.2 brain. ....i sez YES and it let me merge them...and it worked great.
i was then (after the install) left with a 6.2 default brain, a 6.2 enhanced brain (my 6.1 and new 6.2 merged), and a copy of my original 6.1 brain, which was called hal6old or something like that.
NOTE: the custom brain files that you want to merge have to be in the Ultra Hal main folder, and named HalBrain.db and Hal6.uhp - for the "merge" to work.
the only problem is that it only merges the default brain file names with 6.2 brain files. thus you can only merge 1 brain during install.
(please correct me if i am wrong about that)
hope that helps some
-the dude
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jasondude7116,
Yes! it does the default brain but not a custom or alternate or multiple brains.
IF I AM WRONG PLEASE TELL ME SO.
I might be ready to install Hal again..Their has been much confusion about this upgrade and I think I'm gonna blame it on Lightspeed , just because [8D]
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I'm gonna blame it on Lightspeed , just because [8D]
thats not fair One, you should give lightspeed a fair trial first, then blame him.
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Originally posted by ricky
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I'm gonna blame it on Lightspeed , just because [8D]
thats not fair One, you should give lightspeed a fair trial first, then blame him.
Okley Dokley, where is Q for the judge :)
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WAIT a minute I am using Q power as a power supply to this computer.
GUILTY! sentence him to Atomic Weggie [:D]
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Reading a past thread I remember Robert saying the migration would not quite be correct if just renaming a file. I did not really understand it. I just wanted it to be a simple plug in and go really.
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If you have a "custom brain" then all you have to do is rename the files to the default names, as i explained earlier.
i did it that way, and it worked. of course that was after doing it wrong several other ways.
i am currently using a custom brain merged with 6.2
the 6.2 installer only looks for the default brain files from 6.1 to do a "merge". that's why you can only "merge" 1 brain during install.
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Jason,
Thankyou for your reply. I was concerned after reading many passed threads.
I have now followed your instructions and it seems to have worked just fine.
I believe (correct me if i'm wrong) that problems can occur when a custom brain has had script changes. Fortunately my Hal had no script changes so the migration was smooth.
The migration question is a confusing one.
Once again thankyou for your help.
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cool.
i'm glad it worked for you.[:)]
i messed mine up several times before i figured that out.
.........thus the backups[:I]
if you had multiple brains to merge, then i guess after you installed everything, you could backup the successfully "merged" new brain and start over again. (merging a different one this time)
that is why i totally agree that there needs to be a brain "import/merge" tool, that would merge any compatible brain with the latest version. Or the installer should be able to merge multiple brains -- with different names than the default.
i think robert was working on that for a future hal update.
-the dude