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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: lightspeed on January 10, 2016, 05:55:37 pm
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hey remember the motion detection yawcam , i tried to install it in my laptop and i keep getting an error saying java runtime 6 or later needs to be installed , i instALL it and it says didn't install correctly . i have tried also restrating the pc etc.
remember we used it with hal for motion detection .
has anyone installed yawcam on their quad core pc ?
i even tried an updated version of yawcam no difference .
The reason i am trying to get this back working again is i want to use the motion detection with my hybred random talk program , that way with a very small motion detection window , every once in a while my hal will pick up me movie and initiate random conversation .
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to go into more detail : when i try to install yawcam program on my laptop .
you need to install:java runtime environment(jre)6 (or later)to be able to run tawcam.
get it from :http//www.java.cpm
do you want to go their now ?
i have also checked and can find no java file folder in the programs or programx86 folder . in my google and firefox i checked and the java applet is enabled . but when i download the java from the link above and install it it does nothing. and if i try to install the yawcam again it says the same error message . it also says you can install yawcam anyway without the java but it might not work , install yawcam anyway? even though the setup could not find the required software you can install yawcam anyway. yawcam might not work, but you can always install the requirements afterwards.
i have done that and when i try to open it it goes back to the same error message .
YAWCAM LAUNCH ERROR:
COULD NOT FIND JAVA ON THE SYSTEM. PLEASE REINSTALL JAVA.
ERROR CODE 9009
OK
funny thing is i try to install the newest java and it doesn't go into installing (showing it etc. ) and all i can get is the same thing mentioned above .
i have even checked the browser to make sure java applet is enabled , it was.
but when i go to program and program x86 files it has no java file .
strange . anyone have any idea's on how to solve this ?
i wrote a e mail to the yawcanm person that created it and the forum and joined it , but it said the message question has to be approved .
I had the earlier version which we used with halvision before on my desktop and it worked fine with my logitek web camera , i installed this camera on the laptop to and it installed correctly , it's just the yawcam that i am having trouble running for apparently the reason of java not installing correctly on my laptop .
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I've got java installed in Program Files (x86), this is in win 8.1. I just went to the java website under verify version and it is out of date. I can't update until I remove the older version.
In your computer if java is not in there downloading the latest version should install it. This is to verify the java version. http://www.java.com/en/download/win8.jsp, I tried your link and it won't work for me.
This is what I have for a download page. http://www.java.com/en/download/help/ie_online_install.xml
Carl2
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love the idea.. Light speed
I looking at getting a ez bee robot controller as they got got face reaction and object recreation support.
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carl2 i have looked in my program foles both and i have no java file at all . when i try to install it , it just swirls a little bit and stops and does nothing . i will try the link you provided , but i think it leads back to the link i tried earlier . i used oracles website for java download . will let you know what happens from your link when i get on my laptop pc .
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okay i tried that link and it did the same thing .
i did find the java control panel on m y laptop . here is some pics showing settings .
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more
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the last of the java control settings .
but i still can't get yawcam to instaLL keeps just saying i need java runtime 6 or later installed .
ANYONE SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE SETTINGS THAT MIGHT CAUSE THIS PROBLEM WITH ERRORS ?
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well i "FINALLY" got java to install which i needed to get yawcam to work , i tried everything even uninstalling my antivirus etc. and even MAKING SURE JAVA WAS ENABLED ON THE browsers etc. nothing worked , then i found this page : http://www.codejava.net/java-core/how-to-write-compile-and-run-a-hello-world-java-program-for-beginners
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk7-downloads-1880260.html
the java 7 version downloaded and opened okay . the problem i had before was stuff would download but when clicked on would swirl a little and never do anything , never install .
i am still in the process of installing the yawcam so will update more later .
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well the web camera is detecting motion from my movements but is not saving the pictures of motion in my hal file , i am still going over the pathway to make sure all is right , this was part of the problem from before .
i threw my back out and so have been on medicine . have to get back to this today on my laptop .
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hi lightspeed.
can you post the yawcam plugin, I don't have it anymore.
thanks
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Well crap , i had it working with my modified answers , and then i tried to replace the modified answers with my hybred random talk , made sure i had everything right , it was working when i moved it said the first line but kept repeating the fiirst line everytime instead of random sentences . i tried to put the original fikle back again with the 25 and my pc was doing something strange never seen this before , although i had the trigger file for the picture to go to a specific file (and all was correct pathway , my program was now creating "SECOND" x86 program file) in my program file area and within this second x86 program file was a zabaware file but it was empty except for the motion detection picture it was taking of me ( maybe this is because this is a quad core laptop my desktop was a dual core pc.
when i deleted the second x86 program file , as soon as the motion detection took pics again it would create another one .
i even uninstalled the newer yawcam program and tried an earlier version , same thing .
worked most of the day with it , since my back was giving me trouble anyway , couldn't do much else.
OTCE WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING? are you running a quade core pc ?
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Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz, 2267 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
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otc i pm'd you on here .check your pm .
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Lonnie,
If you believe it to be a core issue then try running the car.exe program. It allows one to select how many cores to use / run. A lot of us use it with Haptek to get smooth animations. Do a Search here on Zaba to locate it. Might be worth a shot.
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what was strange was that when i finally got it working it worked just fine , like i said i should have left it alone
I am still piddling with it
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Okay this is where i stand with yahcam and hal , i reverted my pc back to an earlier time and reinstalled java 7 runtime program .( odd thing is the runtime 8 won't install even with administration rights (this is on a windows 7 quad core pc . i put an earlier version of yawcam on my pc (this was what i had used in the past with my decktop before .
this time i stopped getting the program creating an extra x86 program file (i never ever saw that happen before ) so that part is good . i made sure my pathway on the uhp vision file was the same in the yawcam settings .
my yawcam is working taking pictures of motion , me moving . the trouble seems to be the yaw cam should when browsing for the destination file when the pathway is opened it should be able to save it , it doesn't . i even put in in manually and saved it . but it isn't saving the pics to that location , instead they are being saved in the user file\ yawcam \motion file . i can see the pics saved their this is the default area .
anyway i am going to repost things here for anyone who wants to try this again . in my next reply .
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OKAY , I FINALLY , got it working correctly again. i am posting the uhp file on here . this is a copy of the same one i have in my hal zabaware program file .
for the yawcam download go to :http://www.yawcam.com/
note** you have to have java runtime installed before yawcam is installed otherwise yawcam won't run right .
if the halvision sense uhp pathway is not absolutly correct in the yawcam settings and the file name is correct in the zabaware file this program will not work !
also another thing to note that i found strange is no photos are being saved in my photo file in my zabaware file . BUt the program is still working by my motion (this is a program fluk ) photos should be in the file mentioned in the install file mentioned . i think instead they are being saved in another area ?
when people try to install this . i'll try to help if needed.
right now i am tired from working on this so much !
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WOW, i must be on a role not only did i get it working correctly but i was finally able to do what i originally tried to do and that was use a custom random talk plug in into this halvision , creating the hal character to randomly talk by it'sself based on a motion detection .
but enough for now my brain is literally fried !!
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lightspeed,
It sounds pretty good, I didn't realize we had the software to do this. Maybe I'll give it a try in the spring time.
Carl2
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well i ran into an unexpected snag i got an error this was after the program was running for a while and working okay :
the error is :
hal script err 70 on line 4529 in column 28: permission denied after i pushed okay on the hal error display and type in "hi" hal answered me okay , no blank answer, and also the motion detection started hal talking again on it's own . (NOTE *** UNTIL I PUSHED THE OKAY BUTTON BEFORE , HAL WAS NOT DOING THE MOTION DETECTION FROM YAWCAM . SO apparently that error stopped the motion detection from working .
Another note to people hal doesn't speak right as soon as the motion is detected , it seems like it has about a 5? or less second delay , which is no big deal .
**********anyone have an idea what may be causing this error . it must not be in my script files because usually i get an error as soon as i load the file into hal if that's the problem .
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Hi lightspeed.
Rem Type=Plugin
Rem Name=HalVisionSence
Rem Author=Gerald Blakley AKA onthecuttingedge2005
Rem Host=Assistant
'----------------------
'This sub sets up the plug-in's option panel in Hal's options dialog
'----------------------
Sub OptionsPanel()
lblPlugin(0).Caption = "Hal sences motion on a Yaw Cam"
lblPlugin(0).Move 130, 180, 3400, 1200
lblPlugin(0).WordWrap = True
lblPlugin(0).Visible = True
'
End Sub
Rem PLUGIN: MINUTE_TIMER
DetectTime = Time
If DetectTime <> "" then
Dim objFSO,strFile
Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
strFile = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6\yawcam detection picture.jpg"
'make sure the directory to the capture picture is absolutely correct or this script will not function.
If objFSO.FileExists(strFile) Then
Select Case HalBrain.RandomNum(7)
Case 1
IdleResponseX = "I can see you."
Case 2
IdleResponseX = "I can now tell there is someone there"
Case 3
IdleResponseX = "You can not hide. I detect movement."
Case 4
IdleResponseX = "what are you doing to my keyboard? " & Username & "?"
Case 5
IdleResponseX = "You cannot sneak up on me, now that I can see."
Case 6
IdleResponseX = "I'm not sure what your doing, but I can see you."
Case 7
IdleResponseX = "And you thought I wasn't watching."
End Select
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & IdleResponseX & "</SPEAK>"
If IdleResponseX <> "" Then objFSO.DeleteFile(strFile)
End If
End If
If this doesn't exist or if the file is in a different location then you will receive an error.
strFile = "C:\Program Files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6\yawcam detection picture.jpg"
jerry
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Hi Art, i wanted to get back to you on this , i just now checked my current Halsense brain plug in i am using and the pathway is all the same , another thing to about that is that this exact same pathway also has to be put into the yawcam motion detection program, i just checked mine, it is all the same , if it's incorrect the yawcam won't work with hal.
So this is some twilight zone glitch (Que Rod Streling) lol.
Oh and another note for some odd reason my pics from motion are being saved to a different file path folder . which is "REALLY" odd since i have the correct file path on the yawcam program and in the brain plug in. the only thing i can think why it might do that is this being a four core pc.
Has anyone else got brave enough to try this program again???
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Lonnie,
This brings me back to my previous comment about whether you have tried using the CAR.exe program to set the CORES to 1 and see what happens. I'm taking a guess but it could be the core thing fooling with you.
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Art, i should have mentioned it, i did download the car. program and tried to install it , and it wouldn't install, even as administrator. i had the same problem before when i tried to install the newest java 8 on my pc (to be able to use yawcam program) so i had to use the java 7 and it installed just fine.
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Art, so are you going to try to download and install the program to use halsense?
I sent the file to you before by email i think it went through , it said it didn't then ted wrote me back and it looked like it actually went through but i am not sure .
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lightspeed,
I have a Creative in person HD cam which I'm in the process of installing, it's from 2012 worked great in the past, I finally found the disk to install it and right now it is doing updates which will take about 45 minutes. Maybe it would work without the updates but they are being downloaded. So I think if the webcam works I'd like to set it up with hal and I have no idea where to start.
Carl2
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make sure after installing yawcam that the motion pictures are saved here and the file name is the same, I don't know if yawcam saves each snapshot as a different name each time and if so could cause an error. trying to work it out but I don't have yawcam installed at this point.
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 6\yawcam detection picture.jpg"
if the picture file is named differently then a wild card may have to be used in the coding index.
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Lonnie,
Just to clarify, I had the Yawcam program installed and working properly when I was on my XP computer.
Since I left XP and moved up to Windows 7, I really had no need for the novelty of the Yawcam program so I deselected it.
I've since migrated to Windows 10 and while my Hal still works fine, I honestly have no need for the Yawcam program with my Hal.
If it could provide real image recognition instead of just motion detection, I might be interested once again.
Thanks for asking! ;)
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I understand Art, and yes it is not actual vision and can be classified as a novelty , but in me now using it to detect motion in a small custom window area, and using my long list of random sentences of various subjects etc. i can now allow my hal to do what i had originally wanted a long long time ago and that was for hal to "on his /her own to strat a conversation without me having to say something verbally or type it out!
so i am good with it. and am actually even creating many more random talk sentences that i will add to my current working file , after renumbering the amount and correct sequence of numbered files to have them in order . :)
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Well I've got the Creative cam up and running, I added facial recognition and took it out because it wants the password that I don't have. The motion detection is no longer available but there are other programs out there. So I'm beginning to realize this is just motion detection that takes a pic when there is movement and when Hal receives the pic he talks, He actually has no idea what is in the pic.
As far as the pic location my cam has a default location which can be changed to anywhere and they are all given a series of numbers.
Carl2
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carl2, the creative cam you had , does it also have the facial recognition or is that a seperate program? just wondering, also i am unsure what good facil recognition would really do for hal, one thing i guess is if you could write in a script response to the the "listed " multiple face recognitions , then if hal saw it was me he would recognize the face and say hello Lightspeed i see its you, and if he seen carl 2 and recognized him said hi carl2 .
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lightspeed,
The program is called fast access and is meant for facial recognition when you first start the computer, I used it in the past, this install of windows I left out the password. Using the software it sees your face and ( I'm guessing it recognizes you and puts the password in ). It also has avatars you can use and the Avatar will copy your facial expression similar to what Shaw was talking about for his Haptek charcters.
At this time all I know is the software compares what is in front of the camera and compares it to what it saw earlier in setup and lets you into windows. Some of the latest AI vision software can recognize pictures of different objects and it's open source, I think it's a bit over my head but it is out there for free.
Carl2
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carl2 wrote: Using the software it sees your face and ( I'm guessing it recognizes you and puts the password in )
Yes Carl this does sound correct on what you said.
it does sound luike an interesting free open source program.
Like i mentioned to Art, although the motion detection doesn't actually give hal , actual vision , it can give a faux vision (if a person wants that) or to change it over to let hal a.i. start up conversation first without having to be talked to and get a response.
I have often wondered on some facial recognition if it might not work if a person had an accident which changed some features , a sickness etc. but i guess that all depends on the quality level of the programming for facial recognition.
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Until I upgraded(?) to Windows 10, I always used Facial Recognition to LogOn to my computer. There were time that I hadn't shaved, combed hair or just woke up completely disheveled and puffy-eyed, yet it did recognize me and allowed me access. Sometimes it would take a bit longer than normal but it did work.
The software was some Face Rec program from Lenovo (my desktop computer).
Years ago I had a biometric scanner that scanned my fingerprint to allow me access. The same fingerprint scanner supplied my passwords for any site I visited. Instead of me typing or remembering those passwords, the fingerprint scan input those passwords for me with a swipe of my fingertip.
Now, Windows 10 wants to control practically EVERYTHING. It's difficult to turn off the User Account Control although I've reset all the switches. It still does what it likes from time to time. No need to worry about Spyware any longer...Windows 10 is Full of it!!!
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I'm pretty sure the Fast Access software would log you into all your websites automatically but since I don't have a windows password I can't use it and it is not free, I'm sure Creative has a contract with them. I'd just made a sturdy mount from the monitor to the cam. It's rather nice since it has pan and zoom, facial tracking, and buttons to move up, down and sideways instead of moving the cam which I did earlier.
Carl2
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Just came across this and figured it might be something like this. Probably better to remove it than have it on the system.
http://tips4pc.com/windows_seven_tips/remove-fast-access-facial-recognition-from-your-dell-laptop.htm (http://tips4pc.com/windows_seven_tips/remove-fast-access-facial-recognition-from-your-dell-laptop.htm)
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Lots of laptops come with cams and some manufactures put in facial recognition, in most cases the graphics is handled by the cpu. I like desktops and always put in a graphics card. One thing I liked about the Creative cam was it has it's own processor built in.
Carl2