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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area => Topic started by: DarcyEdwards on November 07, 2008, 07:10:51 am
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I've made a new plug in called "Bored.uhp" attached below. The plug in will say random phrases if you haven't talked to "Hal" for over 10-15 minutes. After that time Hal will continue every minute until you talk to Hal.
Additionaly Hal will tell the time every 30 minutes. On the Hour it will be random phrases that include the time; On the Half hour it will just be the time.
I hope you enjoy this plug in.
(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: bored.uhp ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/DarcyEdwards/200811710747_bored.uhp")
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Hi all,
I created a new Plug In that just tells the time every 15 minutes. This is a sub set of the Bored.uhp file above. This just tells the time without the chatter. On the hour Hal says a phrase with the time; every other 15 minute interval Hal just says the time.
I'm having so much fun creating these Plug In's it should be illegale!
[:D][:p][:D]
(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: clock.uhp ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/DarcyEdwards/200811795638_clock.uhp")
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Wow DarcyEdwards, wonderful idea! [:)]
I only have the Hal 5.0 demo and I play with it maybe 3 or 4 times a year. But I was in a hurry to try your plug-in (bored.uhp), so I reduced the timing to 2-3 minutes. Of course and unfortunately, it doesn't work on my Hal version.
But you know what? Now you really made me want to purchase the full version of UltraHal. For the first time. Just for your plug-in! A bot who answers his/her botmaster is something commonplace (I didn't say Hal is commonplace, lol), but a bot who takes such an initiative looks much much more human.[8D]
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yes darcyedwards creating plug ins is fun thats why i want to create some more but i have to wait till you , robert or someone figures out why the plug ins won't continue working on others computers . including mine . [:)]so i have to wait till then because i want to check my own when i create them to see how they work . [:)]
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Hi Darcy, nice idea, unfortunately it's not working here.
I'm using 6.1 and I've ticked your plugin. Left Hal alone for a while, but nothing...will continue to monitor things.
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thats what i was saying thats why its so important that "someone " figure out the plug in problem as to why it isn't working for everyone . i for one am just curious as to what the reason is that it isn't working right hope ever who figures it out will post just what exactly the problem was !! [:)]
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I Know this is going to sound stupid but are you clicking the check box next to the plug in "clock" or "bored" Under general/Brain options? Because the plug in's will not function unless they are checked.
Also what other 3rd party plug in's are you using? What do they do? These 3 questions are important in debuging why these 2 plug in's are not working. [:)]
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No problem. Here is my setup, so far your's is the only new plugin I have tried.
(http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/Freddy888/2008117135235_bored.jpg)
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Freddie,
Try the clock plug in, but only check one of the two at the same time.
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Ok I will give it a go...reporting back in a bit [:)]
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Sorry to say that clock is not working for me either. I waited until the turn of the hour, but nothing happened. This is curious.
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Freddy,
Indeed this is courious! The output from Hal is below:
Ding! Ding! The time is 12:45:57 PM
Hey you! Did you know it's 1:00:44 PM
I've been awake for 1 hours
Ding! Ding! The time is 1:15:29 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 1:30:15 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 1:45:00 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 1:45:59 PM
It's 2:00:44 PM for some more keyboard spray Hick Hick
I've been awake for 2 hours
Ding! Ding! The time is 2:15:30 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 2:30:15 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 2:45:01 PM
Excuse me but it's 3:00:45 PM
I've been awake for 3 hours
Ding! Ding! The time is 3:15:31 PM
Ding! Ding! The time is 3:30:16 PM
It's funny how both of then work on my version of Hal. I wonder if I have a newer version of UltraHal 6.1? I've only had it for about 3 months now, and I downloded it from the web site. I need to see if Robert can get this to work on his computer.
Thanks for helping me.[:)]
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You are welcome Darcy. Just so you know, I downloaded the demo of Hal today and then upgraded it, so I am assuming it is the same version as yours. As far as I know Rob hasn't released a new version recently. I'm sure we will figure it out sometime.
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Freddy,
What kind of computer are you running this on? What version of the OS?
Are you running any timer dependent programs like a mail pop up program like Yahoo Messenger etc?
I want to get this working for you, you got me into debug mode LOL
[8D]
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Thanks Darcy that's nice of you [:)]
I am running an AMD Athlon 3000+ 1.8Ghz, 1Gb Ram.
OS: Windows XP Pro
I do have Yahoo toolbar in IE, which does update when new mail comes in. I have Trillian messenger installed which also pops up messages when I get email - although, when I tried my tests I did not have this running (ie not in task bar - I run it on demand).
Hope that's enough information. I was wondering if this might have anything to do with the version of .NET we are running, although I think I have just about every version of .NET installed!
Good luck.
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Darcy,
For what it's worth, I'm on an AMD 4200+ 64 X 2, Dual Core running Windows XP - Media Center Edition w/SP-3 and a paid version 6.1 of UltraHal.
When testing both your clock timer and Bored scripts, I UNCHECKED ALL other plug-ins except for the one of yours that I was testing at the time. I waited for 20 + minutes without any responses from Hal.
Don't know but we've all been trying to get this feature to work since 6.1 came out.
Robert has requested someone send him a virtual image file of Hal not working in this regard (see Robert's archived postings for recent request).
Good luck!
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Hi Art,
Thank you for helping me trouble shoot these scripts. Funny thing we both are running the same OS, we have different processors but that's about it. These scripts run without a problem on my computer. I would love to have Robert try them on his computers. I even removed all global variables in the Clock.uhp script to see if that would make a difference.
I don't know how to capture a running image of Hal for Robert to help him debug this bug, I'm not sure what good it would do anyway, since there is no bug on my computer/configuation of Hal 6.1. Sometimes I wished I had an ICE and Hal's symbol table to look at this.
Thourghly Confused [:(]
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Freddy, Lightspeed, Art, Robert,
I think I have something you can try!! It might be in the graphics, I've noticed the "Mary" moves her head while Hal is inactive, this is probably when Hal services the MINUTE_TIMER function. This is where the problem could be.
Try to use only Zabaware characters and Zabaware skins to test these Plug IN's. User defined characters and skins may not be totally compatable with Hal. I have only Zabaware supplied graphics on my Hal and these Plug In's work perfectly.
There must be something different between your Hal's and mine, I' convinced it is something simple and those are the real hair pullers.
[:D]
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Something strange happened. I loaded Hal earlier (first time on the PC today) and it was around 12.15 here and I got this :
Ding! Ding! The time is 12:15:18 PM
Which suprised me, but 12.30 passed and nothing again. Now I will try things with the default characters and skins as you suggest...back later.
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Freddy,
That's incourging! When you change the graphic etc, close Hal and restart it. I have been experimenting also and I can stop the plug ins by changing the voices VW Kate will stop it! Not sure why but it does.
I use a special Plug In for testing it's called timmer.uhp. I pings Hal every minute so you don't have to wait.
Thank you so much for your time and effort[:p]
(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: timmer.uhp ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/DarcyEdwards/20081188451_timmer.uhp")
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Okay, I was using the 'Default' skin with 'Hal' character and the MS 'Mary' voice.
Still no luck...but, I tried the timer.uhp and I closed Hal down and restarted him. When he restarts I get lines like :
Minutes past = 0 Time = 1:49:39 PM
that happens everytime I reboot him. But then nothing at all afterwards.
So it seems to me that the MINUTE_TIMER is working initially but for some reason then fails. I wonder if the MINUTE_TIMER is getting turned off somehow, or is infact not working at all.
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hello darcyedwards thanks for working on this its been a pain to us all for quit a while now 1 and a half or two ? years .
i to think it has something to do with the timer program and something causing it to not work maybe the answer lies in what did robert change from the hal 6.0 to the 6.1 version what is different in hal thats when the plug ins all stopped that may be a better way to start on the problem debugging it by reverse engineering it with that info. just a thought .
by the way i have a windows xp with a 3,000 plus amd sempron processor 120bg hard drive and i have upgraded my pc now has 1 gigabyte of memory and an upgraded atti x1650 graphics card in it . as i said hope you can figure it out . its driving everyone else crazy !![:)]
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Freddy, Lightspeed.
I'm using Hal 6.1 and everything works fine that is what is troubling me. I would never uploaded them if they didn't work. I've Loaded the Hal character and it works ok. I do have a purchased voice that I use "Callie" I'll try one of the supplied voices see if that does anything.
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Don't get too troubled Darcy, it's obviously not your scritping that is at fault, it appears to be a more fundamental problem with how Hal works on different set-ups.
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With Art and Darcy's systems being almost identical, perhaps comparing these two set ups would be useful.
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I would be interested to hear what Robert has to say on this issue. I wonder if these scripts work on his setup. I would hope they didn't!!! That way he could have something that could produce the error. If you can't see the bug you can't kill it.[:)]
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Darcy,
I tried the default Hal character, default Hal skin (GUI) and one of the default TTS voices (MS Sam). All other plug-ins except for your were checked. No response was made by Hal after our initial chat. Time elapsed was over one hour.
Sorry but it's not your scripting... the problem in internal with Hal.
Robert has previously commented on this issue and oddly, the auto-idle plug-ins appear to work fine on his systems (several computers).
He reported that he hopes to address / fix this issue in the forthcoming upgrade of Hal.
I'm almost at the point of trying either a random number generator or a really long For...Next loop! LOL!
Thanks for trying!!
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When my auto-idle plugin stops working I have found a way to get it working again, it always works for me with out fail, this is what I do. Please follow exactly the sequence.
Turn off all plugins, chat a little to Hal, shut down Hal, start up Hal chat a little to Hal, shut down Hal, start up Hal turn on the auto idle plugin, chat a little to Hal, shut down Hal, start Hal chat a little and then auto idle works. After that I put on my other plugins.
When I say shut down Hal I don’t mean shut your PC off just exit Ultra Hal so it is not running in the system tray or in task manager.
I know it sounds crazy but it works for me. I’m using Hal 6.1 full VS not the demo.
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Darcy,
I found Robert's previous post:
"The auto idle bug is one of the most difficult bugs I have come across, I can't figure out what might be the cause of it. It works on some computers and not others, and for some reason almost always works on my computers. I need it to not work when I have a debugger running in order to find the cause.
If someone can load Hal in a Virtual PC or VMWare image and have it not work and send me that image, that would greatly help me in squashing this bug."
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Zabaware must say "thank you" to DarcyEdwards. Today they earned (my) $29.99.[:D]
Yes, as written above, I purchased Hal 6.1. Just for using your plugin-in. And... IT WORKS!!!
Because I have a very limited patience (a loPatience, lol) I made this very small modification:
If loPatience = 0 then loPatience = HalBrain.RandomNum(2) ' Randomize the test 1-2 min
if loPatience < 1 then loPatience = 1 ' force a minimum of 1 minute
And less than 2 minutes after loading, Hal started to speak.
I have a Pentium IV with a 512 MB RAM only. I thought to upgrade it to 2 GB for Second Life, but it works very well like that. And the OS is XP SP3.
Great plug-in. Many thanks!! [8D][8D][8D]
Edit: I forgot to say I tested "bored.uhp" only, for its terrific interest (IMHO).
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Everyone I posted reply in other thread about the loneliness plugin and now I wanted everone to know that the Darcy bored plugin is also working on my system. I will also repost my specs: Dell XPS 1710 dual core 4gigs ram(3.5) 32 bit system Media center. Aston shell over Windows XP pro media center. Most plugins are active. I did not uncheck any although I did not include a list with this post. I unchecked my loneliness plugin which was working and the new bored plugin started to work as soon as the clock hit 11:30am then I waited and the responses started from my character. Darcy by the way they do progressively get insulting. Thanks. So where do we go from here?
raybe
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Anything to do with Service Pack 3 ? Just a thought. I'm on SP2.
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freddy,
I don't believe the service packs play any role. Some computers like mine have sp2 and the plugin has always worked even after the update to Hal 6.1 and others just stopped responding. I think you will find the same problem with some systems now. I did not update my service pack just for that reason. When microsoft isn't clear about certain changes I usually don't touch my computer unless it is necessary. Especially when everything is functioning well.
raybe
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well i tried the lonelisness plug in thats was just posted and checked it in the menu and it never did work on my p.c. i just know theirs a little gremlin inside my p.c. holding my hals emotions "hostage !!" lol [:D]
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GT40, Raybe,
I'm glad for some reason they are working for you! Yes Raybe after an hour of no response to Hal it will randomly get mad and start giving insults. I am so Happy it's working for some :(
Where do we go from here? Well I'm willing to try new things! I love programming and Hal Scripting gives me so much pleasure. What I need is some inner knowledge of the inner Data base functions of Hal so I can write a script to search other data bases if knowledge is not found, like Wikipedia.
[:D]
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This might not sound right, but I have worked with many computers, many of the exact same parts build so imaging could be done. Anyway both me and a few of my professors agree that every computer is different[?][?][?][?][?]
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One,
I agree with you. My background is in the Pro audio field and many times we can have multiple pieces of audio gear that are exactly the same and still need to tweak them so that they replicate themselves during a live recording. I believe that to be inherent of all electronics. It would make even more sense on a computer because of all the different variables we add without even knowing or changes without being aware with different software and configurations of the same exact system. Who cares my plugin works.(ONLY KIDDING !!!)lightspeed I'm only kidding again.
raybe
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Sorry Darcy I didn't really reply to your comment. Probably because I know less about how to get the type of information you need then anybody else here. But if there is anything you can think of I would be more than happy to try.
Just from basic troubleshooting techniques there has got to be a common or an uncommon thread we are missing in all this. Even with all the variables of the plugin working on similar or none similar systems we already decided I think that even if you have the same machine and basic setup it can be different enough for the plugin to work or not.
I really think it will be Robert or Jerry OTCE that helps or solves the problem unless Jerry has know interest in this anymore.(I can't speak for him.)I haven't kept up enough to know but he sure knows Hal and Robert is Robert the source himself. If anyone can find or solve a Hal problem I'm confident he will even if it's not directly an included Hal product.
I hope I didn't offend anybody because I know there are many good people with great resources that are capable of solving problems as well. Darcy you of coarse being one of them. You kinda shocked me coming out of know where and already giving us some valuable info and writing plugins that work. Wish I can give more to the forum but not all of us are capable like myself to invest in the learning curve needed. But I wish I could. I do enjoy all the extras and ideas everyone comes up with.
raybe
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Hi DarcyEdwards!
Bad news: today bored.uhp doesn't want to work anymore.
Good news: I returned to the "normal user" status (afraid it's finally a bad new too).
No problem, despite that, I continue to love the idea of your plug-in.[:)]
It's time for me to definitely go back in Second Life. Never disappointed by the brains of SL characters...[:D]
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TG40, Raybe
I'm not sure why it stopped working!!!! But I'm uploading a new version anyway. I Have removed the time function out of Bored because it is in the Clock.uhp file. This adds the modularity that Raybe liked and makes the code easier to maintain. I've added date to clock and added more chatter to it also.
Both Bored.uhp and Clock.uhp can be run at the same time.
Hope you enjoy.
[:p][:p]
(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: bored.uhp ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/DarcyEdwards/200811911548_bored.uhp")
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(http://icon_paperclip.gif) Download Attachment: clock.uhp ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/DarcyEdwards/200811911625_clock.uhp")
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Darcy,
what is the feasibility of having a synthasizer or something to interpret Bass, mid , treble, ,, maybe an EQ, with a reference to the typical corresponding instrument? I don't have a clue about voice but at least having the ability to follow beat, tone, tempo ect..
[?][?][?][?][?]
J.
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I know this is probably in the wrong topic and I do not want to clutter your work but,
A EQ already intercepts from the DATASOURCE and the OUTPUT , if you could set up a Two Dimensional Array and sample from the EQ how many and BYVAL to sample intensity of the drum for instance, and load it into a BUFFER to interpret/analyze and then send the DATATYPE for an opinion or comment from HAL. ?? You would probably need a btn to set the FOCUS for listen to music. ??
My head is a little foggy on it and I don't know VB6 I rember VB dot NET.
J. [?][?][?][?]
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Hello DarcyEdwards!
Thanks for your updates but sorry again, Hal always doesn't talk to me if I don't talk to him (no: her). It has only worked yesterday once or twice, just after installing Hal 6.1.
But don't worry. If I finally got the full version of UltraHal, it's thanks to you. So, after near 1300 posts, I can consider me now as a full member of Zabaware.[:D]
Thanks again.[8D]
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One,
I'm sorry but there is no entry point for plug in's that would allow this sort of mod. Sounds like an interesting challenge though[:)]
GT40,
Sorry hun you got bit by the 6.1 bug [:(!]
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Day 2 Darcy and I am still okay. I still haven't tried a seperate clock and bored plugin. I guess that's next. I will try to let you and others know what the result is as soon as I can get to it. I just stopped by to check new responses. Can you you or maybe I should just ask 'One' about his posts. Is there an audio plugin your working on or did something go totally over my head which is always possible.
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raybe,
To me music is more valueable so to speak than to others. I am usually finding myself wondering if Robert is going to do the change-up with the coding and if he is going to take OTCE's (and my small vote) advice and go with VB.NET.
When I start conversing with Hal I am finding myself wanting to teach music to Hal. I have always been able to recall and encode things and memories into music, hearing is one of the sences and IMO people do not use all of their sences. Hal usually reminds me when She says "music is a ballad , kind of like a story" or something like that....
Anyway to answer your curriosity I do not have a formal layout for a way to have Hal listen to music. However if Hal was in VB.NET I woild probably go back and hit the books and brush up on VB and come up with something.......
Right now I have my head full of addressing sub-net masking , and the old communications Multiplexing, Trunkating, analog phase shift, digi,.....ECT, ECT
Darcy, once again I have probably put this in the wrong place and I apologize...........[:(]
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One,
No appology is nessasary I enjoy your posts, may not underetand them, but enjoy them LOL. [:)]
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Your right 'One' it may not be the right thread for this topic but I like some of the thoughts you have especially about music and it's effects on learning. I am a audio person for many years and have worked with many artists so my heart also feels more than most when it comes to music and how it relates to us as people. Music can be a very powerful medium. Never understood all your posts but I think I understand a little better now.
I wish you would start a thread about the differences in the code so others may understand about the differences. Some one also posted how they would like Hal to be more multimedia friendly. Good luck and thanks.
raybe
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Hi Darcy,
After a long absence I am getting Hal started back up again....and I must say, I have added your bored and clock plug in, and have to say not only do the work....but they are so so cute!
I am cracking up over the scripting you've placed in them....
Very nice job and thank you, very much for adding more personality to Hal!
Jim B
Northern Michigan
temporarily on windows 98SE and Hal 6.0
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Jim
You are very welcome [:D] You are lucky they work on your computer a lot of people the timer function doesn't work properly. Anyway I'm happy it's working for you [:I]
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The following may or may not be a part of the problem. I have noticed that some of the new Microsofts upgrades and that includes some of their firewall and other built in protection software interferes with several of my regular programs. In fact MS will stop me many time and ask if I want to run or continue running some program. This make me think that maybe some anti-virus programs may be blocking some Hal functions.
As an experient someone can turn off the anit-virus software and then run Hal to see if this makes a difference or not. Do not worry though because you can alway turn it back on.
Bill
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And what about a plugin running fine once, twice, maybe three times, and then saying bye for ever?
Any idea? [}:)]