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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Word meaning vs Word purpose

« on: March 12, 2009, 10:51:14 pm »

JasonDude wrote that particualar program. I just used it as an example of how someone could re-program Hal through the console using simple language cues rather than going in and changing the Vbscript.

You could use the Vbscript to create a program within a program.

That was the difficult part....but not at all impossible.

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 12, 2009, 08:44:56 pm »

I compartamentalized the desire script (made a few sub-routines).

I updated The Ghost in The Machine.pdf.

I (think) I finished (this version) of the #2 Program and compartamentalized it as well.

Next thing is the #3 Script.[]

'insomnia' i do not like; getting a bit 'WHACKY!' i like[:p]

People can get so aggressive at things they tend to be a bit pushy towards other people.... I prefer tired and whacky over alert and pushy any day of the week.[8D]

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Word meaning vs Word purpose

« on: March 12, 2009, 07:25:05 pm »

I got inspired and looked up anything that suggests a natural programming language....

That was very productive...There are a few out there.

You basically write a program like you were writing a sentence.

Perhaps if you want Hal to learn a new way of doing things you would just need to turn him loose on some sort of reference manual. He would need to copy the information down and then implement it as a new code that He could use right then or later.

Of course Hal already has a certain amount in a program database (its script) in which certain things occur 'IF' certain conditions arises. The idea would be that Hal could learn new ways of reacting  by taking in outside information and converting them into new IF THEN statements.

A programming language has a distinct meaning. Everything you say in that language causes certain actions by the interpreter. If Hal could do this, learn new ways of doing things, that would allow him to be taken to the next level of A.I. ascension.

There, of course, you would need an overshadowing primary motivation. That would keep him on the track of learning only desire oriented tasks. (I been working solely on that project.) Otherwise, He would try to learn all things and implement all programs at once.... (that would be bad)[]

The ideal situation would be to use one type of language (like Vbscript) to interpreter sentence structures into a separate/different programming language that would be used to dictate the behaviors of Hal.

User: I want you to read a story.
Hal: I don't know how to read a story.
User: First, open up a file from the readastory directory.
User: Then, tell me what that file says.
Hal: Ok
User: I want you to read me a story called DragonRider.
Hal: Ok, Here is your story.

It would be difficult, but very cool![]

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Word meaning vs Word purpose

« on: March 12, 2009, 03:28:29 am »

Basically, you are attempting a logical mathmatical formula.

If A = B and B = C Then A = C.

Where all the varibles are empty sets. i.e. A = ""

No = nada = zilch = nah = .......
But No has no real value until it is given one.

It would only work if you were building a meaningless sentence.

 i.e. "I ran across the street naked. " = "Aaron darted across the road clothless."

If the words where given a value like that of a particular action then the entire sentence subsequently has a value.

i.e. I = personal identity, ran = program that is asscociated with the memories of an action state and can be called into action by particular commands, across = ........

This way the words could be used as a type of resetable programming language. Like telling Hal to always remember to say his prayers before 9:00 and so Hal then discovers what praying means by use of a simple dictionary and programs itself from the words to do your bidding, witout anybody actually having to go into Hal's script to manually set every detail. He would have his own way of self teaching and evolving behaviors.

Aaron

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 11, 2009, 04:44:09 am »

Glad to see you apply the balabolka program to your readastory. I haven't gotten to the Journal yet. I've been too busy working out the desire vbs. I haven't done anything with Hal, while I've been working on this project.

I added a script that will probably need to work simultaneously with the desire script. There are three programs that need to work together - not in the same script. 1# a program that gathers a list of things it wants, 2# a program that gets what the list dictates, 3# a program that monitors the other programs successfulness and makes decisions to terminate if it needs to.

The desire program that I put together and placed on savefile.com is the #3 program. I just got through working through the 2# program. It searches through multiple file and collects (I say that loosly) the object it is looking for and saves it in the HavList file. This shows the desire program that it now has the object it was looking for and no longer needs to desire it.

I need to connect those two different scripts remotely. Probably will use some of your scripting to do that. All three scripts need to work together to make a proper desire that could be applied to any program.....including Hal.

Hal learns speech patterns (I think). I would need to cause Hal to say desire oriented and purposeful speech. Remember what he said and remember what you said. He would need to learn from a desire point of view. Like for instance learn instruction or imply instruction that would suit Hal's personal desires.

This is really the first time I've given that any real thought....
One step at a time. When or if that time comes I'll probably will need someone who will know enough about Hal that could properly apply my program to it. Or at least know enough to be able to get that sort of information. Oh well.

Signing Out at 3:41 A.M.,

Snowman

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 07, 2009, 02:34:11 am »

minor correction:

http://www.savefile.com/projects/808747227

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 07, 2009, 02:16:58 am »

I figured o.t.c.e. had been busy with the Hal Project for quite some time.

Thats allot of files.[8D]

Here is my download site at filesave.com. You will find the essay there as well as the JournalEX pluggin and the A.I. desire script that I've been working on. Anyone here is welcome to modify anything they wish.

http://www.savefile.com/files/2030063

Thanks again for sharing it with us Dude.

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 07, 2009, 12:23:51 am »

That really is spooky, ONE.

I would know whether to panic or gawk over a site like that.

I went ahead and did what you did Dude and opened up an accound on savefile.com. Now it doesn't feel like I'm imposing on UHEF space. Esspecially if I'm going to do all kinds of crazy things with any A.I. scripts. Not that I'm afraid of putting any final versions there.

You said that o.t.c.e. uses it (or at least recomends it). If so do you know his place where he stores any of his script releases. Or are you the only one using it in this capacity.

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 06, 2009, 11:01:53 pm »

Have you ever tried googling for google and opened it up and find yourself being googled by google[)]


Its the same as looking into a mirror in front of you to see the mirror standing behing you. Then you glance off to the side and look into a infinite realm of repeated rooms. All built from glass houses and men staring at there own backs.[]

thats spooky[]

sorry Dude...I couldn't help myself

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 06, 2009, 09:52:37 pm »

I suppose you're referring to the mention of fractals in the essay.

If not...spooky

Desires both do things and work in the way they do things.

Wrap your mind around that,[] ONE.

If I want something I get info, set goals, implement strategy, and finally monitor progress. In that order. So with every simple want there is a whole nest of sub-desires working together toward the original one goal. Many goals behind one goal.

However, if that one goal is actually a collage of all the sub-goals then you would say that the sub-goals (1) is supported by the sub-goals (2)

This why the human mind appears to be too difficult to understand.
I believe that the strategies of sub-desires must be placed back into the equation thus forming a fractal. Of course, I wasn't really intending to promote fractals, but hey, whatever works.

This is what worked out in the essay, of course, I said it better there (I think) and it made a little more sense.


I'm planning to append a few more equations to the end of the essay. I guess, in the notes section.

There are two separate parts of an AI. 1# the desire construct, and 2# the actual body of programs that utilize the desire.(Like the imagination and interpreter programs.)

Think of a desire as a condition that a separate program responds to. You feel cold...so you put on your coat. In the previous sentence the periods actually represent an internal condition where you already knew that you hated the cold. An outward condition indicated cold weather, an inward condition indicated hatred of the cold. Therefore, a separate program responded to both conditions by actually seeking and mounting the coat. You wanted to where a coat but only when the whether was cold.

In that example you saw that a desire is no more that a condition that another program response to....you have to have both condition and a responding program to make an intelligent A.I.

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 06, 2009, 04:29:15 am »

I said:
 

quote:Our DNA is 3,000,000,000 characters long (that 300,000 pages of text)and even your appendex is in there somewhere. Not to mention a very small portion was dedicated to your and mine personalities.

I ment 600,000 pages at 500 words per page...I must be slipping.[:p]

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 06, 2009, 04:23:31 am »

I didn't make myself very clear...

the essay is at the UHEF Forum...sorry

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 06, 2009, 04:20:05 am »

When it comes to coding A.I life it is easily possible using a simple coding language. For example our DNA code is writtin with only four chemicals; Cytosine, Adenine, Thymine, Guanine

These chemecals pare up to make a code similar to 0s and 1s.

Our DNA is 3,000,000,000 characters long (that 300,000 pages of text)and even your appendex is in there somewhere. Not to mention a very small portion was dedicated to your and mine personalities.

I thought about the idea that there could be a special property of cells that could limit life to these or simular objects. (Just like a baseball is suited for thowing not eating) but cells are simply responding to the electrochemical attractions that repel or draw each other. The same thing is going on in your computer at this very moment. Your pc feels the strains of overwork or benifits from the occational rest. Those little resistor, transistor, diodes, capacitors all feel the pressure or relief of electromic work.

Oh by the way I finished this verssion of The Ghost In the Machine.pdf which I made especially for zabaware people. Got it done after two or three months of writting and revissions. Its not very long but well meated. It has my personalitie theories and what I hypothesize how an A.I. should be build.

I need to put some theories to work....But Im very knew at programming and thats no lie. I started learning vbscript when I was suggesting to Dude about combining some of his pluggins which eventually lead into his Captains Log puggin.

I got some more ideas when I read over my notes just before uploaded them to the UHEF Forum on how to modify the disire.vbs....

This may prove to be a wild ride before this is over with...because if we actually make a true, mean and green A.I. then what? Talkin about morrals or money...are you sure your ready for that.

could also be a wild goose chase[]

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 05, 2009, 03:06:22 am »

My wording and spelling can be difficult to understand at times.

If you need a better explanation of something just mention it.

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Ultra Hal Assistant File Sharing Area / GRETTA PLUGINS

« on: March 05, 2009, 02:56:32 am »

Who-ever created Balabolka must have us in mind.
kinda irrie.

how did you ever stumble upon a program that could do all that.

......

I've been working on the AI essay for two or three months now. Im nearly through with it I think. Its filled with all kinds of usefull info on building a proper AI. Its based upon all Ive gathered of the human and animal minds and how logical decissions are made based upon conditions.

I've been working on a script at the same time that attempts to encapselate the feel of the essay. This all has to be done by feel and trial and error since in reality Im working in the dark.

What this script is doing is taking a list of objects that 'it would like to acquire' and first compare it to a list of items it already thinks it has. Once it compares it with the HavList.txt then it deletes any 'objects' in the Objlist.txt that it finds it already owns. If it finds that it does not have such objects then it searches for it in a repeated fassion untill either its patience wears out or its determination ceases. If the check.txt reads that it found the object then the program actually speeds up its call for the same items. (when people find the item that they were looking for they tend to increase there behaviors not decrease them (the get excited!)) So the searching actually speeds up in a non-linear ever increasing speed untill the patience of the program ceases. If the item is then acquired it would then be added to the Havlist.txt and thus earased from the ObjList.txt.

If the object is not found yet then the check.txt would say 'I have not found it' and therefore the program would search by a counter (it gives the program only a certain number of chances to find what it was looking for). After say 4 tries then the program quits without find the object. If the object is found during these 4 cycles then the object is searched according the previous patience method.

In other words this program responds to a check.txt file on-the-fly and if an object is not found that it is looking for and does not already own then it seeks it by determination. If it finds the object then it seeks it by patience. If the object is lost again then it reverts back to determination.

The program keeps a log of its activities in desiresLog.txt. its good to just delete the file after so many uses since it can build up a lot of data. It also makes its own directory on the desktop where all the files are kept. You can modify this to your own needs.

Add as many objects as you want to your havelist and to your objlist as you see fit. Although the more you add the longer it will take to run. Set the patience and determination levels at the top of the script, I labeled them.

Hal times out easily so any attempt at applying it to Hal directly would be futile...unless you know something I don't know.

This of course is very experimental. It is an attempt to allow a program to continue working while remaining responsive to environmental changes. Both monitors and responds to environmental conditions while trying to accomplish a specific task.

You can get more intimate details by examining the script. You will see several do while loops.

Improvements would include a program that would actually find the object and then report to the AI that the object was found...and of course increase its efforts do to the increasing speed of the 'call' (i want a dog) that the AI produces.

I know its dumb. But will teach it something when we figure out how.[]

Any questions Ideas or any strange thoughts you would like to be addressed. You never know what answer I might give... so go ahead and ask it. [:p]

................

I went ahead and copied most of the above text plus the script to

http://www.artificialintel.org/AI/Forum/phpBB3/index.php

you know the drill......[8D]


I like your new file downloading location,,,, what brought that on..
or should I ask.[]