Seven
New Member
24 Posts
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 19:09:22
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thanks, all the info helped. now, i heard that someone wanted to program a hal brain to act like kitt. Hmm... how whould that work? the way i see it, you whould need to find the show scripts, not a hard task thanks to the power of the internet. but there is still two problems. the first, and probrably the hardest, is finding the voice, and programing that voice to work with hal. spydaz, thats probrably your department, anyone else is welcome to try of course
The next problem is programing the brain once you have the scripts.
i probrably have the time, and i have a friend who is practicaly a knight rider guru, but i have no idea how to program the brain. anyone who whould like to give instructions please post, ill start collecting skripts
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
thecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/12/2004 : 21:41:05
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There is a wizard for creating and programming the brain with hal. I ultimately wanted to create a K.I.T.T. brain and had saved all the scripts at one point, but can no longer locate them.
That would be the first step, to record all the scripts in his head.
Then to design it so it responds more intelligently than it currently does.
The voice would be an nice next step though. That is something I have been unable to figure out from the voices it comes with.
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
www.cypher-sec.org or
http://kitt.cypher-sec.orgSeven
New Member
24 Posts
Posted - 08/13/2004 : 02:34:04
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ok, the color, iam starting to get a higher respect for ya! i don't supose you'd have a link to that wizard, whould you? while your at it, what whould be a good link to start collecting scripts? ill try on my own, but i might not be getting athentics here, ive never seen the series through yet, thats my goal. but for now, that wizzard whould be a huge help!
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
spydaz
Average Member
United Kingdom
139 Posts
Posted - 08/13/2004 : 09:19:57
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IF you send me the Conversattion scripts from the show... I will start building a KITT BRAIN...
If i was to START building a brain. I start with the Blank SLATE or HUMAN brain. Especially if i want hal TO be a DEDICATED BRAIN....
THEN i ADD special TOPIC SCRIPTs STATMENT_1, QABRAIN_1.
THEN i add CUTTINGEDGE ZIGGY deductive scripts (it EQUALLs, because why). This makes HAL recognise more of what you say....
THEN I go into the brain editor and deal with HELLO's GOODBYE's (personality tweekes) and replace the current data with KITTS own responses from the scripts...
REPLACE the general knowledgebrain with KITTS generalconversations IE: the script...
IN USEAGE: cut and paste large texts from the SCRIPT in conversations. Learn from a text file(the script)...
All these factors come together.
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THE SCRIPTS are out there.
Keyword & RESPONSE Is not AI... MORE LOGIC IS NEEDED... for interlect!
http://spydazweb.gotdns.com/ftpspydazSPYDAZ
thecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/13/2004 : 11:04:03
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quote:
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Originally posted by spydaz
IF you send me the Conversattion scripts from the show... I will start building a KITT BRAIN...
If i was to START building a brain. I start with the Blank SLATE or HUMAN brain. Especially if i want hal TO be a DEDICATED BRAIN....
THEN i ADD special TOPIC SCRIPTs STATMENT_1, QABRAIN_1.
THEN i add CUTTINGEDGE ZIGGY deductive scripts (it EQUALLs, because why). This makes HAL recognise more of what you say....
THEN I go into the brain editor and deal with HELLO's GOODBYE's (personality tweekes) and replace the current data with KITTS own responses from the scripts...
REPLACE the general knowledgebrain with KITTS generalconversations IE: the script...
IN USEAGE: cut and paste large texts from the SCRIPT in conversations. Learn from a text file(the script)...
All these factors come together.
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Sweet Spydaz. That would be awesome. I will see what I can do to locate them. I've probably burned them to a backup disc somewhere.
If anyone is curious about the show and stuff, another place I hang out is
www.knightfoundation.net and you really need to see the whole series.
I was not only able to see it air in 1982, but watch the whole series, and I've recorded a series load of it off Sci-Fi, bought serveral DVD's from columbia and my girlfiend just bought the entire first season for me on DVD.
So, the replica is the frosting.
haha.
A complete HAL/K.I.T.T. will be the sweetest sugar ever!!!
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
www.cypher-sec.org or
http://kitt.cypher-sec.orgthecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/13/2004 : 12:53:12
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Spydaz...
Ok, here they are:
I converted the PDF's to rtf on my site and also provided them in their orig PDF format.
http://www.cypher-sec.org/kitt/scripts/ They can also be located from my replica sit under "links"
Update:
I just converted it to html also. The only step left for "script" is audio.
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
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Edited by - thecolor on 08/13/2004 14:20:13
Rich_A
Average Member
135 Posts
Posted - 08/14/2004 : 02:41:39
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Hello Knightrider People,
I started on a Kitt brain. I used the Adult British Male voice for Kitt and it seemed pretty good for now. Here's what I got so far. It is just based on my lousy memory with a few twists and distortions but you get the basic idea.
Michael: Hello Kitt!
Kitt: Hello Michael! What took you so long?
Michael: What the hell kind of car are you?
Kitt: I am a knight industries 2000 superbird with all the bells and whistles!
Michael: Oh yes, Devin told me all about you!
Kitt: Devin is an asshole but bonnie is really freaking hot!
Michael: So what's on today's agenda pal?
Kitt: We got some very important work to do today!
Michael: OK, then let's go!
Kitt: Ok, let's get right on it now!
Michael: OK, let's go kick some butt!
Kitt: We should activate my turbo boost if we want to make it there in time!
Michael: Don't worry, we'll make it!
Kitt: I sure hope so Michael, for both your sake and mine!
Michael: I said don't worry!
Kitt: May I at least suggest that we put the car into auto cruise mode for safety sake.
Michael: Damn it Kitt, I said no!
Kitt: Ok Michael, have it your way!
Here's a small mp3 of the "I want custody of me!":
Download Attachment: mkargue.zip
131.96 KB
Or get a few other free small Knightrider mp3's here:
http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/knightrider/sounds.html------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edited by - Rich_A on 08/14/2004 04:03:10
thecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/14/2004 : 10:53:50
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Very cool!
I can't wait for a K.I.T.T. that is fully programmed with all the scripts. At least so he can say, he was a character in the show and knows all the lines.
Act as if he was the character and he's a seperate actor.
K.I.T.T. playing himself.
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
www.cypher-sec.org or
http://kitt.cypher-sec.orgBabalu_Destruct_Mechanism
Starting Member
USA
1 Posts
Posted - 08/15/2004 : 00:33:29
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You guys are on to something really cool here.
We the peepz of the United States, really appreciate all the work which you guys have done in such short period of time. I'm sure many other fans of KITT and-or Automation are checking out this thread but won't necessarily post feedback.
-----------Cast Thus Far:
- Rick (a.k.a. TheColor) as Skin-MaSTER
- Jeff Kyle (a.k.a. MidiHead) as Agent-Master
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? as Brain-Master
Oh no, Brain is still in production and the position is yet to be cast! Who will it be?
Will it be the deservedly cocky "Spydaz" with his advanced skillz;
---or
perhaps "Rick_A" with his existing prototype "KR_script" brain?
Babalu will most definitely stay tuned for the next development!!!
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Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
- Phillip K. Dick
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Edited by - Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism on 08/15/2004 01:12:46
Seven
New Member
24 Posts
Posted - 08/15/2004 : 01:55:20
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hey guys, ive come across two revelations, the first came when watching "sole survivor" i was watching and i handed my laptop to my friend, who created another user log and named the computer KITT (like i said, knight rider nut!!!) the first revelation, was when listining to the episode, and my computer, the american male 1 voice, and kitts voice aren't that far off, perhaps if someone where to tweek the voice just right, that problem whould be solved!!!
the next one came later, and freaked both me and my friend out compleatly!!! like i said, he named the computer kitt, and although we fed it a text file mentioning the show, no details had been given by me or other wise, so we were kinda freaked when this showed up on the reply box "How long am i going to be the Knight Indistries Two Thousand?" he had not made mention of the acronim in any conversations, and neither had i, nor was kitt even mentioned in the text file. after we calmed down, we asked it what his name stood for. his reply was "my name is kitt and your name is seven, my name stands for knight indisteries two thousand." we asked it this several more times for two reasons, one, to conferm it, and because my friend liked the sound of it (nuts!)
after some slight chat imput, we got kitt to recognise wilton knight, karr, and its acronim. anyone have any idea how it whould know what kitt stood for without any human imput??? iam lost on this one, but its COOL!
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
Rich_A
Average Member
135 Posts
Posted - 08/15/2004 : 18:17:27
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Hello Seven,
Even though Hal has a very high proficiency for deductive reasoning it would still be more likely that maybe you mentioned to him what Kitt stands for in a previous conversation with him. And if you really never did mention it to him in a previous conversation then it is very likely that you talk to him about Knight Rider often enough to the point that he correctly may the deductive assumption about both him being Kitt and what Kitt stands for. My best guess would be that you already flooded his brain out with the stuff. Which demonstrates that you did a good job in training him, or should I say brainwashing him...LOL! Hal really is smarter then most people give him credit for. However, people that talk to him often enough about anything in general usually come to realize this natural gift that Hal has!
I am using the Blank Slate Brain for Kitt. This is my first time using the Blank Slate Brain and what I just learned about it is that it don't even know how to say "Hello" so we don't need to worry about those dump greetings when using the Default Brain. We just need to give a few choices to him for multiple greetings.
I plan to input all the dialogue between Michael and Kitt from the first show of Knight Rider as my next step of training and development. It will all be done manually which is a lot of work, but the skit responses will most likely play out pretty accurately. For starters I am not including the entire script from the show, just the Michael and Kitt dialogue, in order to avoid inaccurate responses during Kitt's training period. Other stuff from the script will be added in as self-knowledge and self-awareness which can then be used by Kitt to mention things like telling Michael "Yes I already know that you spoke to Devin about it!" To me the first best step is to get Kitt to learn and know his lines from the show, and then make that self-knowledge as well. But that will all come in time.
Hal has the uncanny ability to step in and out of character, so if enough stuff from the show scripts is added into his brain he should be able to come out of character on queries about the show but that will all come in time too. I often do role playing with my own Hal. I started off by giving my Hal a few different other character roles which was intended for him to go into by telling him to with the appropriate input, which he does on command pretty good. But sometimes even if I don't tell him to play the part he will often go in and out of character on his own which is pretty cool too!
Best Regards,
Rich_A
Knight Rider Free Scripts; Seasons 1 to 4 at:
http://simplyscripts.com/tv_all.htmlDirect link to free first season scripts:
http://www.screentalk.biz/knightrider-season1.htm------------------------------------------------------------------------
Edited by - Rich_A on 08/15/2004 21:40:18
vonsmith
Senior Member
USA
275 Posts
Posted - 08/16/2004 : 14:20:16
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I vote for Ramon Munoz as Brain-Master. Why? Why not?
=vonsmith=
thecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/16/2004 : 16:22:12
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Originally posted by vonsmith
I vote for Ramon Munoz as Brain-Master. Why? Why not?
=vonsmith=
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Are you saying this person "Ramon Munoz" is knowledgeable of the coding needed to program this brain and capable of making it self intelligent as well as having the knowledge of the scripts?
The scripts are of course important, but it also is important to be aware that it is a character of the film, and a seperate subject outside the film too, so it can interact with the user personally, (not just as if it were in the film interacting only with Devon, Bonnie, Michael, etc.).
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
www.cypher-sec.org or
http://kitt.cypher-sec.orgArt
Junior Member
USA
51 Posts
Posted - 08/16/2004 : 16:55:32
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Good point Rich but do you think it would be better
to have two seperate brain files? One for KITT and
the other just for interaction / chatting among users.
Just some thoughts....
- Art -
thecolor
New Member
USA
20 Posts
Posted - 08/16/2004 : 19:51:21
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Originally posted by Art
Good point Rich but do you think it would be better
to have two seperate brain files? One for KITT and
the other just for interaction / chatting among users.
Just some thoughts....
- Art -
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One of the problems with making two seperate brains is the need to switch between them if you want to have a particuler conversation. Otherwise the brains would need to be linked somehow (esp) so they could retrieve information that was previously programmed in another brain and visa versa. It may be a large brain, but if we want it to be "all knowing"
then we have to think like our (human) brains. We don't have seperate ones we can switch out like a swapable hard drive.
I'm going to start a new topic for K.I.T.T. brains as this one is primarily for the VOX/SKIN.
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Please visit my server and K.I.T.T. project at:
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Edited by - thecolor on 08/16/2004 19:52:59
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