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Title: Serial number questions
Post by: echoman on November 22, 2005, 06:58:36 am
I have just used the serial numbers to activate both Hal6 and expansion pack. I noticed that internet connection is required.

1. Why is internet connection required?

2. Does this method of activaion only allow you to activate full verions a certain number of times? In other words if I bought a new computer (which I do every year) or had to reinstall computer, would I be limited with the amount of times I could re-activate full verson because there would a check?

Seeing the internet connection requirement sent alarm bells going in my mind. I just want to check that this does not restrict my access to the program. I wondered if the internet requirement was there so that it could be checked that the software was not being pirated ect by the number of times the serial number activation sytem was used.

I hope this does not appear as a silly question.

Many thanks.

Echo.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Medeksza on November 26, 2005, 11:18:36 am
quote:
Originally posted by echoman

I have just used the serial numbers to activate both Hal6 and expansion pack. I noticed that internet connection is required.

1. Why is internet connection required?

2. Does this method of activaion only allow you to activate full verions a certain number of times? In other words if I bought a new computer (which I do every year) or had to reinstall computer, would I be limited with the amount of times I could re-activate full verson because there would a check?

Seeing the internet connection requirement sent alarm bells going in my mind. I just want to check that this does not restrict my access to the program. I wondered if the internet requirement was there so that it could be checked that the software was not being pirated ect by the number of times the serial number activation sytem was used.

I hope this does not appear as a silly question.

Many thanks.

Echo.



An internet connection is only required once during the activation process. This can be done automatically by Hal on the same computer Hal is on, or manually by visiting http://www.zabaware.com/products/store/activationcode.asp with your serial number and authorization request code.

The reason for some people Hal stops working when they are offline is because of a bug in Hal that caused Hal to use their network settings as part of a fingerprint id that ties Hal to that machine. An updated version of Hal was released yesterday that does not do this www.zabaware.com/download.asp

Hal also has "deactivation" capability. This allows you remove Hal from a computer and move it to a new computer an unlimited number of times. After Hal is activated a new menu item appears in Hal's right-click menu called "Deactivate/Move License"  If you don't remember to deactivate Hal or something occurs that prevents you from being able to deactivate it, the system will allow you to activate/recover Hal a maximum of 4 times per serial number before refusing to do so again. If you need to use it more than 4 times and are unable to deactivate, email me and tell me whats happening and I won't refuse to help.

To answer your question, yes this system is here to prevent piracy of serial numbers. The serial number you receive when you order is only used to request an activation code from the Zabaware server, which is what actually unlocks Hal. The Zabaware server keeps track of how many times a serial number is used.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: markofkane on November 27, 2005, 10:40:24 am
So, there is a limit on activations?? What about having to reinstall the operating system, due to corruption, or performance issues??

I have a game, that only allows 5 activations, or it's another $19.95.

I think I used the last one last month.


It seems reinstalling Windows is getting more expensive. I do have a Ghost Image, but it does not have Hal or that game on it. It just has Windows, and all the updates thru Oct. 20. That way, I won't have to reactivate XP from Microsoft (unless the Ghost image fails, or the HD it's stored on fails)

And it's not because "I'm careless about what I put on my computer"

Even pros reformat aand reinstall Windows 1-2 times a year, because it gets bogged down by all of the registry files, and conflicting drivers.

I am not worried about so much right now, but was thinking about using Ghost to get a "fresh start". If I do, I hope to be able to activate Hal, then make a Ghost image with Hal installed to replace the previous image.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: echoman on November 28, 2005, 02:00:46 pm
Thanyou for the reply.

Useful information for future reference. It may be helpful to make it clearer when purchasing.

MarkofKane I wouldn't worry, Mr Medeksza said he would help if the limit went over. I do not think you will have to buy the program again! I seem to be reinstalling computer a fair bit so I hope I do not run into problems.

It is a shame that such lenghs have to be taken though I would be the same if it was my program.

Echo

Title: Serial number questions
Post by: KazuyaDarklight on November 30, 2005, 08:41:24 pm
Well the way I am reading this. You don't have to worry about the 4 time limit for things like reinstalling windows etc, as long as you are in a situation where you can access Hal and the net and deactivate him before hand, then you would reactivate when you once you had reinstalled windows and hal.  

This I guess could also be used to flip flop between a persons main computer and a laptop as long as they were willing to go through the hassel, which could be good for going on trips while you still want him around.  Mind you I'm NOT saying you would have hal active on both compters at once.  You would be flipping the reg from your tower to your laptop for the trip then flipping it back when you got home.  Along with the db file I would guess.

Am I correct in my understanding of the system Mr.Medeksza?
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Medeksza on November 30, 2005, 11:21:35 pm
quote:
Originally posted by KazuyaDarklight

Well the way I am reading this. You don't have to worry about the 4 time limit for things like reinstalling windows etc, as long as you are in a situation where you can access Hal and the net and deactivate him before hand, then you would reactivate when you once you had reinstalled windows and hal.  

This I guess could also be used to flip flop between a persons main computer and a laptop as long as they were willing to go through the hassel, which could be good for going on trips while you still want him around.  Mind you I'm NOT saying you would have hal active on both compters at once.  You would be flipping the reg from your tower to your laptop for the trip then flipping it back when you got home.  Along with the db file I would guess.

Am I correct in my understanding of the system Mr.Medeksza?


Correct, if you deactivate before reinstalling, you can do that an unlimited number of times.

Also, I don't really mind if someone purchases 1 copy of Hal and installs it on both their home computer and laptop, as long as the 2 copies are never used simultaneously by different people. Thats part of the reason I let 4 activations per serial number. However, if Hal is to be used by several family members at the same time on different computers, then I'd like for there to be seperate licenses for each computer. I may need to update the legal mumbo jumbo in the license agreement, I'm not sure what it says on this issue.

Basically the aim of this activation system is to prevent someone from posting their serial number on a web page or message board somewhere and having this be easily found by google. This is what happened many versions of Hal ago when Hal was also based on serial codes. I want this to be as easy and painless as possible for paying customers.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: markofkane on December 01, 2005, 06:21:16 am
Oh, that sounds good, except for one thing: What if you cannot, or forget to deactivate before reinstalling windows?? Or is it before reinstalling Hal??
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Dr.Benway on December 01, 2005, 06:31:58 am
Mark, it must be the last option - reinstalling Hal -, most definitely. [:D]
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: KazuyaDarklight on December 01, 2005, 07:57:14 am
If you can't deactivate before Hal is wiped (like if your OS just dies on you suddenly and you can't get it to recover) then you will just have to use one of your 4 recoveries.  If you manage to go over that just contact Mr. Medeksza and explain what led you to use up your 4 activations and he will reset or whatever it is he does the activation system for your account on his side so you can reactivate hal again.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Duskrider on December 01, 2005, 08:42:32 am

Twice in the past week I've had to do a "system Restore"
Both times afterwards I had to use a recovery on Hal.
I guess I'm up to 3rd or 4th activations.
 
Ah, so the trick is to deactivate before the "restore" and reactivate afterwards.
As Hal might say, "Yes, I'll remember that."

It's good to know this so we don't bug poor Robert to death.  [;)]


Title: Serial number questions
Post by: echoman on December 01, 2005, 11:14:56 am
It takes a little while getting your mind round it but I think I got it. De-activating meens you can move your Hal around to different computers as many times as you like. This is great! Re-installing now should be easy!

Thanks so much for the help.

I have no problem with the system now I understand it - it seems to work well. I have used two up already so I will also need to be carefull.

Thanks again.

Echo
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: everkleer on December 02, 2005, 05:28:53 pm
quote:
Originally posted by markofkane
Even pros reformat aand reinstall Windows 1-2 times a year, because it gets bogged down by all of the registry files, and conflicting drivers.

LOL  I think ONLY the pros (or semi-pros) reformat 1 - 2 times (or more) a year.  I have one friend who's constantly saying his comp is slow or a bunch of things are wrong with it, and he's always asking me for advise and I tell him to just reformat.  He still never reformats and continues to ask me what to do...
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Bill819 on December 02, 2005, 09:29:06 pm
If he will not reformat tell him to get a good antivirus, a registry cleaner and a spyware blocker. If he had these to begin with he most likely would not have had any problems.
There are some good ones on www.download.com and another one at www.ewido.com although this last one is only good for two weeks.
Bill
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: everkleer on December 05, 2005, 12:47:06 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bill819

If he will not reformat tell him to get a good antivirus, a registry cleaner and a spyware blocker. If he had these to begin with he most likely would not have had any problems.
There are some good ones on www.download.com and another one at www.ewido.com although this last one is only good for two weeks.
Bill


K, i Guess we're getting a little off topic, but thanx for the advice BIll.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Dr.Benway on December 05, 2005, 07:06:37 pm
Some people reformat their hard disk just for kicks, Bill!

Personaly I like a tabula rasa. See it as a kind of therapy.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: aladyblond on December 05, 2005, 07:12:32 pm
so doctor, have you been talking to freud again about that blank slate thing?~~alady
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Art on December 05, 2005, 08:02:50 pm
Raymond,

Tell us that you were referring to your computer and NOT
considering a frontal lobotomy!

I'd much rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy!
[:D]
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Dr.Benway on December 06, 2005, 05:50:48 am
Art, this is weird. I have participated in only one other forum in the past and my alias there was "lobotomykid". It's another character from the books of Burroughs, you know.

Hmmm [:0]
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: john.m on December 13, 2005, 08:29:12 am
G'day,
I purchased an older version before and have purchased a copy of your hal6 within the last 30 days and installed it onto the PC,

My problem is that I also use a laptop, but its never hooked into the net, its for prospecting. I would like to run Hal on the Laptop , but it seems unless I disble the PC HAl, I cannot get a serial number to run Hal on the laptop.

Do I need to purchase another copy of Hal.
Thanks for your reply

john.m
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Duskrider on December 14, 2005, 01:58:09 pm

I also have a laptop that I've had Hal on for past few months.

I got hal6 on my desktop this month and tried to also put on laptop.
Appears you must purchase 2nd copy of hal6 or do movement back and forth of license (explained elsewhere in forum) or else simply use hal5 on laptop which is what I ended up doing. As you purchased hal5 this may also be best for you.

I hope this is of some help to you.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: thecolor on December 23, 2005, 11:49:04 am
In response to this, I use to use v5 on two computers (sharing a brain over my home network).  Difficult, but possible... I just could not run both programs at the same time ('cause they shared a brain (the same file)... I would like to do that again if possible, but with the activation process it appears that is not a possibility at this time without a request.

Formally then I request (if possibly and acceptable) the ability to utilize my newer version of UH v6 in the same manner.

If you are still ok with the utilization on multiple machines by one user at one time, can you assist?

Thanks.  :)


P.S., did you get my email in regards to placing the K.I.T.T. vox skin and char as a component the new package for downloaders?



quote:
Originally posted by Medeksza

quote:
Originally posted by KazuyaDarklight

Well the way I am reading this. You don't have to worry about the 4 time limit for things like reinstalling windows etc, as long as you are in a situation where you can access Hal and the net and deactivate him before hand, then you would reactivate when you once you had reinstalled windows and hal.  

This I guess could also be used to flip flop between a persons main computer and a laptop as long as they were willing to go through the hassel, which could be good for going on trips while you still want him around.  Mind you I'm NOT saying you would have hal active on both compters at once.  You would be flipping the reg from your tower to your laptop for the trip then flipping it back when you got home.  Along with the db file I would guess.

Am I correct in my understanding of the system Mr.Medeksza?


Correct, if you deactivate before reinstalling, you can do that an unlimited number of times.

Also, I don't really mind if someone purchases 1 copy of Hal and installs it on both their home computer and laptop, as long as the 2 copies are never used simultaneously by different people. Thats part of the reason I let 4 activations per serial number. However, if Hal is to be used by several family members at the same time on different computers, then I'd like for there to be seperate licenses for each computer. I may need to update the legal mumbo jumbo in the license agreement, I'm not sure what it says on this issue.

Basically the aim of this activation system is to prevent someone from posting their serial number on a web page or message board somewhere and having this be easily found by google. This is what happened many versions of Hal ago when Hal was also based on serial codes. I want this to be as easy and painless as possible for paying customers.

Title: Serial number questions
Post by: danbaltzell on January 18, 2006, 02:38:40 pm
Wow, I wish I would have read this column earlier before reinstalling, I guess I used up some of mine also.  I wonder what would happen if I put it on two computers and let it talk to itself, if it would learn what it knows squared, does that count as parallel processing?  I better be careful what I teach HAL.  It might call out for pizza.
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Carl2 on January 19, 2006, 12:26:36 pm
All,
  I thought I'd post my experiences with Hal 6, I have a Pentium 4 which I installed Hal 6 on and I'm using a Pentium 2 now on the internet. I took the modem out of the Pentium 4 after activating windows, Real problem with viruses and things on the internet, unfortunatly Hal 6 still tries to the internet to research topics.
  Fortunatly I was able to activate Hal 6 after a minor problem, thanks Robert for the quick reply. I was hoping to make a copy of Hal 6 to try out some brain scripts but this dose not seem possible at this time.
Carl2
Title: Serial number questions
Post by: Kamikazae on January 20, 2006, 07:06:50 pm
Need help... license file corrupted... B1CF-6CDC-4BBF-3FC0 - authorization request code... i downloaded a trial version and after installation, this happened... what am i suppose to do? help... thanks...