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Title: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 05, 2017, 08:42:45 pm
This topic has been locked as Hal has reached Release Candidate Status.

Ultra Hal 7 has reached beta status! If you would like to test an early version of Ultra Hal 7, here is your chance.

To install this beta version

Here is what's new in Ultra Hal 7:

Note: The "purchase" button doesn't do anything yet. It will be updated once the "release candidate" and final version is ready.

Please let me know if you find any bugs.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Art on December 05, 2017, 10:01:50 pm
Robert,

The only thing I had to do was to Uninstall my existing Hal 7 (alpha). The new install absolutely went in without a hitch and to my surprise, Everything remained in the same position and selection as it was before I uninstalled the previous Alpha version. I went through a variety of characters, MS Agent, Verbot, Zabaware Native, Custom Haptek and the Mobile Phone character. All of them worked without issue. The character, skin, voice, cloud selection, brain, are exactly as I had them in the other version. It responds perfectly and quickly as it should. Great work!

Congrats Rob...so far, so good!  ;)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 06, 2017, 12:13:17 am
Ok I broke down and installed HAL 7 on Windows XP SP3... hehe

I'm using my 6.2 Halbrain.db file and the default HAL 7 UHP Brain file...

First AVAST Anti-Virus does not like HAL... It had to run it's scan and then say it was sending the file in to be examined same with the Brain Editor... I've seen this before and it always comes out clean... Also since AVAST owns AVG I'm positive it won't like it either.

Second, I don't see this in HAL 6.2 but in 7 the text (HAL's response) displays immediately but the Voice is delayed a few seconds... This could be because I have the voice slowed down a bit in the Text to Speech settings in Windows to make it sound more Human... (I sped the voice up 1 notch and there's still a few second delay before HAL speaks the text).

I use 'Peedy' (MSagent) as the character for HAL and in 6.2 he starts out very small in the upper left corner of the Monitor and settles in the middle of the Haptek window full size in HAL 6.2...  In HAL 7 he does the same thing but also displays a second time in the upper left corner of the Haptek window and settles in the middle of that window... It also does this with HAL 6.2 now so it must be a Haptek upgrade issue or I have a file or two from the old Haptek somewhere causing the issue...

Also if I Click on the 'Thumbs Up' in the Haptek window after Hals response and I don't check anything and close the window, 'Peedy' the MSagent character reloads again...  i.e. goes from the upper left corner back to the middle of the window...

Hal is set for: 'Mixed cloud/local learning' and when I click the 'Thumbs Up' choose an option like 'Neutral' and then click 'Learn' I get the error: 'error sending feedback to server' and if I check the connection to the Cloud it says: 'Login Test Successful'... I'm wondering if I need to allow HAL to send through the Windows XP Firewall?.. I Don't see any example Responses, that I could choose from when I click a 'Thumbs Down'...


After checking TCPview I do have a constant 'UDP' connection and when I talk to HAL I also have a 'TCP' connection besides the 'UDP'... If I'm 'Idle' the 'TCP' connection drops out...
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 06, 2017, 08:40:18 pm
First AVAST Anti-Virus does not like HAL... It had to run it's scan and then say it was sending the file in to be examined same with the Brain Editor... I've seen this before and it always comes out clean... Also since AVAST owns AVG I'm positive it won't like it either.
This will eventually go away once the final release of Ultra Hal 7 is out and the people at Avast/AVG have a chance to review Hal and make sure there is no virus/malware. For now these programs rightfully notice that the new Hal is something they have never seen before and flag it as needing review.

Second, I don't see this in HAL 6.2 but in 7 the text (HAL's response) displays immediately but the Voice is delayed a few seconds... This could be because I have the voice slowed down a bit in the Text to Speech settings in Windows to make it sound more Human... (I sped the voice up 1 notch and there's still a few second delay before HAL speaks the text).
This looks like it is a difference in how Double Agent works and how MSAgent used to work. I believe Double Agent is waiting for the current animation sequence to end before speaking, whereas MSAgent interupted the animation in order to speak right away. I think if you choose a non-agent character it will speak quicker for you.

I use 'Peedy' (MSagent) as the character for HAL and in 6.2 he starts out very small in the upper left corner of the Monitor and settles in the middle of the Haptek window full size in HAL 6.2...  In HAL 7 he does the same thing but also displays a second time in the upper left corner of the Haptek window and settles in the middle of that window... It also does this with HAL 6.2 now so it must be a Haptek upgrade issue or I have a file or two from the old Haptek somewhere causing the issue...Also if I Click on the 'Thumbs Up' in the Haptek window after Hals response and I don't check anything and close the window, 'Peedy' the MSagent character reloads again...  i.e. goes from the upper left corner back to the middle of the window...
This is another difference between Double Agent and MSAgent. I have found how to work around it and make it work as you expected. The fix will be in my next release/update for you.

Hal is set for: 'Mixed cloud/local learning' and when I click the 'Thumbs Up' choose an option like 'Neutral' and then click 'Learn' I get the error: 'error sending feedback to server' and if I check the connection to the Cloud it says: 'Login Test Successful'... I'm wondering if I need to allow HAL to send through the Windows XP Firewall?.. I Don't see any example Responses, that I could choose from when I click a 'Thumbs Down'...
After checking TCPview I do have a constant 'UDP' connection and when I talk to HAL I also have a 'TCP' connection besides the 'UDP'... If I'm 'Idle' the 'TCP' connection drops out...
This sounds like Hal 7's connections aren't going through to the ultrahal.com server for whatever reason. You can try the firewall settings to see if it will help, although I find it strange that you said the login test works. I've added some additional logging and more detailed error messages to Hal 7 to see if it will give us more useful info as to what is happening on your computer. The logging will be included in my next update/release along with the MSAgent tweaks.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 06, 2017, 09:33:28 pm
OK thanks Robert...  :D
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 07, 2017, 07:26:45 pm
i downloaded this newest link today from beginning of page is this the newest upgrade of hal? if it is i have some problems . first the good news hal will now show my custom characters (which it didn't before) voices also work okay . it saved my user name and computer name in hal .  it shows ultrahal 6.0 upgraded to 7.0 brain . my plug ins i copied and pasted from hal 6 folder into hal seven show up okay in the options list . The expansion pack must have upgraded correctly as i can see the names and picture in the character options area . but they won't stay loaded after being picked in menu , hal closes , and character doesn't stay loaded .
   
THE BAD NEWS : i copied my custom brain and placed it from my hal 6 program folder into hal 7 but it is "not" showing up in hal 7 even after exiting hal and restarting it . i haven't restarted the pc so will try that next .
  Another thing is still happening i put my custom characters in hal seven in the option menu , but when i hit okay "HAL CLOSES AND WHEN I REOPEN HAL , CHARACTER IS NOT THEIR IT IS BACK AT DEFAULT EVERY TIME .  :(
So whats happening is that my custom hal brain is not showing up in the brain area like before so i can choose it
my characters won't stay loaded .

Okay update : i restarted my pc to see if that made a difference on things, it didn't my custom brain that i made (angela) that i copied and pasted into the hal 7 file .  isn't showing up by the hal 7 default brain and the upgraded 6 to 7 brain .  my custom brain file in now in the hal 7 file . hope i am explaining this right .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 07, 2017, 07:50:09 pm
Okay i opened hal up and it said please purchase the expansion character pack .  i already purchased this , i thought it said if it was in my pc system it would just upgrade it to the hal 7 beta . if that's the case it didn't upgrade it like it was suppose to . because i have purchased it and was using it in my hal 6.2 earlier version .  :(
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 08:08:44 pm
i downloaded this newest link today from beginning of page is this the newest upgrade of hal? if it is i have some problems . first the good news hal will now show my custom characters (which it didn't before) voices also work okay . it saved my user name and computer name in hal .  it shows ultrahal 6.0 upgraded to 7.0 brain . my plug ins i copied and pasted from hal 6 folder into hal seven show up okay in the options list . The expansion pack must have upgraded correctly as i can see the names and picture in the character options area . but they won't stay loaded after being picked in menu , hal closes , and character doesn't stay loaded .
   
THE BAD NEWS : i copied my custom brain and placed it from my hal 6 program folder into hal 7 but it is "not" showing up in hal 7 even after exiting hal and restarting it . i haven't restarted the pc so will try that next .
  Another thing is still happening i put my custom characters in hal seven in the option menu , but when i hit okay "HAL CLOSES AND WHEN I REOPEN HAL , CHARACTER IS NOT THEIR IT IS BACK AT DEFAULT EVERY TIME .  :(
So whats happening is that my custom hal brain is not showing up in the brain area like before so i can choose it
my characters won't stay loaded .

Okay update : i restarted my pc to see if that made a difference on things, it didn't my custom brain that i made (angela) that i copied and pasted into the hal 7 file .  isn't showing up by the hal 7 default brain and the upgraded 6 to 7 brain .  my custom brain file in now in the hal 7 file . hope i am explaining this right .

To be compliant with Microsoft guidelines, Hal 7 now stores all user data in your "App Data" folder. User data would be defined as custom data pertaining to the current logged in user, so your Hal brain fits this definition. To find your app data folder click start and type in: %appdata%

After you hit enter you will be taken to the "App Data" folder of the currently logged in Windows user. From here open the "Zabaware" and "Ultra Hal 7" folder. This is the folder where your brain database resides and where you should copy any custom brain files from Ultra Hal 6.

Character files can be placed in either the "Program Files" folder or the "App Data" folder, Hal checks both locations. But for live brain files, it is only in the "App Data" folder.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 08:13:59 pm
Okay i opened hal up and it said please purchase the expansion character pack .  i already purchased this , i thought it said if it was in my pc system it would just upgrade it to the hal 7 beta . if that's the case it didn't upgrade it like it was suppose to . because i have purchased it and was using it in my hal 6.2 earlier version .  :(

It's possible that you made some custom modifications to your Hal 6.2 characters that the Hal 7 installer isn't able to understand. If you want, you could email me your debuglog.txt file inside your "App Data" folder (see above post) and I could figure out what is going on. You can also try installing the character expansion designed for Hal 7 fom http://1ebad5d81ca0f6ed0a07-c539f9cfab6ed1fe52cb62f563d610fd.r69.cf2.rackcdn.com/PackSetup.exe
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 07, 2017, 09:11:26 pm
Okay i downloaded the expansion pack link you provided and it said i needed to uninstall the earlier expansion pack version
i did that then installed the hal 7 expansion pack and put in my code into it (the password) it took it okay . i even restarted the pc .
after installing  the hal 7 expansion upgrade  now when i click on the hal 7 shortcut it now comes up says hal6.2   but when it's opened  it shows the new hal7 layout with email and password etc. (i have not uninstalled hal 6.2 yet)

anyway i retried the character it shows the pics of the characters in the preview pane and i click on them and okay . hal closes i reopen it and it is back to default same as before . 
I emailed you the debug txt. file  after trying this.
so i don't know what is going on , also i forgot to mention that my Angela custom brain is showing up in the list of brains but a problem i am having is the gender age in the options list , on the other defulkt brain you can set it but on the custom brain it just shows it in the list and can be checked but will "not" show the gender or age calender etc.
 so that's where i am back at , if you need me to i can send you another email with my expansion pack password i used and entered .  :(
********i also forgot to mention my custom backgrounds all work behind hal .
see the no gender age error problem photo.

also the characters showing but not loading .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 07, 2017, 10:02:26 pm
Okay another update: for whatever reason when i restarted my hal (restarted pc again) my hal came up with the hal 7 version this time instead of the hal 6.6   also the age gender is now working (very strange ) . i tried the characters again custom ones and they still won't load  always goes back to default .
so that's my newest update news. don't know if age gender will keep working but is working now .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 11:19:59 pm
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Hmm, ok. I'll load up Dragon 13 tonight and see if I get the same problem or not. Does Dragon 12 work other than this problem? If you disable the "Always listen to commands" check box, does dictation work if you manually open Hal and turn on the mic? Does Dragon 12 work on your computer in other programs? What version of Windows are you running? I read online that Windows 10 only works with Dragon 13 and not the older Dragon 12.

Yes, Dragon works great with Hal other then this issue. For some reason the <micon> command will throw that error. This also happen on my old windows 7 computer as well but that was with 6.2 at the time.

I was able to load Dragon 13 on my computer tonight and confirmed that I am having the same error message as you. I should be able to fix it sometime tomorrow hopefully.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 11:24:40 pm
Okay i downloaded the expansion pack link you provided and it said i needed to uninstall the earlier expansion pack version
i did that then installed the hal 7 expansion pack and put in my code into it (the password) it took it okay . i even restarted the pc .
after installing  the hal 7 expansion upgrade  now when i click on the hal 7 shortcut it now comes up says hal6.2   but when it's opened  it shows the new hal7 layout with email and password etc. (i have not uninstalled hal 6.2 yet)

anyway i retried the character it shows the pics of the characters in the preview pane and i click on them and okay . hal closes i reopen it and it is back to default same as before . 
I emailed you the debug txt. file  after trying this.
so i don't know what is going on , also i forgot to mention that my Angela custom brain is showing up in the list of brains but a problem i am having is the gender age in the options list , on the other defulkt brain you can set it but on the custom brain it just shows it in the list and can be checked but will "not" show the gender or age calender etc.
 so that's where i am back at , if you need me to i can send you another email with my expansion pack password i used and entered .  :(
********i also forgot to mention my custom backgrounds all work behind hal .
see the no gender age error problem photo.

also the characters showing but not loading .

Thanks for sending the debuglog file. I should have time tomorrow to review it and hopefully get some clues as to what is happening on your computer. I've been stuck in traffic today for about 2 hours in a snow storm, lots of people in ditches. In the snow belt where I live, it takes the first big snow storm every year before people remember how to drive and remember they might need new tires.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: knight2000 on December 08, 2017, 09:12:44 am
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I was able to load Dragon 13 on my computer tonight and confirmed that I am having the same error message as you. I should be able to fix it sometime tomorrow hopefully.

Awesome Robert! Thank you for looking into this.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 08, 2017, 10:51:34 am
Okay this is a update if i haven't already said it , i started hal today , it is still showing the hal 6.2 on start up but has the hal 7 upgrade interface  .
the gender age problem i had that wasn't working with my custom brain . "IS NOW WORKING " for whatever reason . so now it seems the character loading is my biggest problem .
 although i will try to check other things out to see if their is other problems. i need to check my dragon speak natural vr to see if their is any problems . i have i think version 12 ? 
     Will be glad to see whats causing the character loading problem .

P.S. i forgot to mention that my iobit anti malware has stopped showing the haptek 7 installation as a virus .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 08, 2017, 08:46:35 pm
Hi Rob.

Was going over the HAL 7 code and I wanted to mention a code I slipped out.

maybe you can utilize it in HAL 7.

'Do not save gibberish.
If DetectGibberish(OriginalSentence) <> "" Then HalBrain.ReadOnlyMode = True

Happy Holidays
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 08, 2017, 09:32:59 pm
Okay this is a update if i haven't already said it , i started hal today , it is still showing the hal 6.2 on start up but has the hal 7 upgrade interface  .
the gender age problem i had that wasn't working with my custom brain . "IS NOW WORKING " for whatever reason . so now it seems the character loading is my biggest problem .
 although i will try to check other things out to see if their is other problems. i need to check my dragon speak natural vr to see if their is any problems . i have i think version 12 ? 
     Will be glad to see whats causing the character loading problem .

P.S. i forgot to mention that my iobit anti malware has stopped showing the haptek 7 installation as a virus .
I believe some of your issues stem from having installed one of the early Hal 7 alpha versions and not removing the "%appdata%\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7" before installing the newer beta. There were some breaking changes I made during the development of the alpha version that requires a clean install before installing the beta. So to fix this, follow these steps:


I believe after you do this, you should see the correct splash screens, and hopefully all your characters will load correctly.

I'm going to post an updated version of the beta in about an hour or so based on other bugs people reported, so maybe wait until I post the next update in case you read this before.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 08, 2017, 09:40:52 pm
Hi Rob.

Was going over the HAL 7 code and I wanted to mention a code I slipped out.

maybe you can utilize it in HAL 7.

'Do not save gibberish.
If DetectGibberish(OriginalSentence) <> "" Then HalBrain.ReadOnlyMode = True

Happy Holidays
Jerry 8)

Thanks, I'll add that.

Have you had a chance to test the new Hal Brain Editor? I just want to make sure it works for you without any major errors.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 08, 2017, 10:01:07 pm
I have posted a new beta, version 7.0.78. The download link is: http://53602a7dd5b8bcc16ee6-d1b8b6ddbdc18fd09a75ede80b1261f6.r6.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Changes since last beta:



Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 08, 2017, 10:11:41 pm
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Have you had a chance to test the new Hal Brain Editor? I just want to make sure it works for you without any major errors.

Hi Rob.

Yes, It is working very admiral I might say. I especially like the Response From: in the debug, it will make tracking information a thing of the past, Bravo!
The Cloud seems to work fine in the HAL 7 Editor, no errors, I'll be studying the internal processing area thoroughly now that most of the external processes are fixed.

Rate: 1 to 10 is definitely a 10 so far. I like the new features in processing very much.

Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 08:32:21 am
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Peedy the MSagent no longer loads multiple times.

2. I am no longer getting the 'error sending feedback to server' when I click thumbs up or down and choose an option like 'Neutral' and then click 'Learn'? Tho I'm not totally sure where it's going.. haha.

3. in HAL 6 and HAL 7 mode when choosing the thumbs up or down and an option I still don't see any example sentences. Is that normal???

Everything else works great so far, Thanks Robert!!!!!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 10:57:39 am
Robert i have one question to ask you before i download the newest upgrade from you and follow your instructions you gave me .   in the new hal seven i have still been learning my hal many things from news articles etc. and want if possible to save this same custom brain . if i can , so if i back this brain  up , where (which new hal 7 file should i place it ?? in the app roaming etc. hal 7 file , or the regular programs zabaware hal 7 file ? for it to work correctly ?
otherwise if i remember right it will just migrate the past hal6.2 older custom angela brain .   
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 01:10:20 pm
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. Peedy the MSagent no longer loads multiple times.

2. I am no longer getting the 'error sending feedback to server' when I click thumbs up or down and choose an option like 'Neutral' and then click 'Learn'? Tho I'm not totally sure where it's going.. haha.

3. in HAL 6 and HAL 7 mode when choosing the thumbs up or down and an option I still don't see any example sentences. Is that normal???

Everything else works great so far, Thanks Robert!!!!!

Still sounds like some communication problem with the server if you are not seeing any sentences when you click the thumbs up/down button. Can you send me your debuglog.txt from the appdata folder? It might have more useful information this time.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 01:13:13 pm
Robert i have one question to ask you before i download the newest upgrade from you and follow your instructions you gave me .   in the new hal seven i have still been learning my hal many things from news articles etc. and want if possible to save this same custom brain . if i can , so if i back this brain  up , where (which new hal 7 file should i place it ?? in the app roaming etc. hal 7 file , or the regular programs zabaware hal 7 file ? for it to work correctly ?
otherwise if i remember right it will just migrate the past hal6.2 older custom angela brain .
App data is the folder for live copies of brains. So you will want to make a copy halbrain.db if you were using the new Hal 7 brain, or halbrain6.db if you were using your upgraded Hal 6 brain. Copy one or both of those files, then uninstall Hal and remove the app data folder, and then restore those brain files them after Hal 7 is installed again.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 01:29:40 pm
UPDATE : Robert i did exactly like you said in your instructions only thing i did different was i restarted the pc after installing hal seven from your latest link  above  then after my pc restarted i shut down hal and installed the expansion pack update link you had after putting in the password and it installed okay i again restarted my pc . its a laptop windows seven . quad core.
The results are my characters didn't migrate  or my custom Angela brain into the app data roaming etc. hal 7 file (but the Honey.hla file is their , this is the name the pc calls me ) or in the hal 7 program file either . one thing did change though now in my  hal 7 file i see my character file is  their but now is empty .   i do have a back up of the whole file elsewhere.
 I AM POSTING PHOTOS OF THESE FILES YOU CAN SEE UP TOP THE DESTINATIONS .

 Another question should i copy and replace my copied hal 6 character folder into hal seven , or just the characters ? and also if so to which file the app roaming hal 7 file or the hal 7 program file ?




Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 02:17:52 pm
UPDATE : Robert i did exactly like you said in your instructions only thing i did different was i restarted the pc after installing hal seven from your latest link  above  then after my pc restarted i shut down hal and installed the expansion pack update link you had after putting in the password and it installed okay i again restarted my pc . its a laptop windows seven . quad core.
The results are my characters didn't migrate  or my custom Angela brain into the app data roaming etc. hal 7 file (but the Honey.hla file is their , this is the name the pc calls me ) or in the hal 7 program file either . one thing did change though now in my  hal 7 file i see my character file is  their but now is empty .   i do have a back up of the whole file elsewhere.
 I AM POSTING PHOTOS OF THESE FILES YOU CAN SEE UP TOP THE DESTINATIONS .

 Another question should i copy and replace my copied hal 6 character folder into hal seven , or just the characters ? and also if so to which file the app roaming hal 7 file or the hal 7 program file ?

I'm guessing the Ultra Hal 6 character folder was missing before the Ultra Hal 7 install started. Is it possible while backing things up you maybe did a "move" instead of copy? The debuglog.txt file in the appdata folder would tell us what Hal 7 saw during installation.

So at this point you could either restore your Hal 6.2 install to working order and then resintall Hal 7 to do an automatic migration. Or you could manually copy your character/brain files over into Hal 7.

In Hal 7, character files can be placed in either the "Program Files" or "App Data" folder. Hal 7 searches both places for characters. According to the Microsoft guidelines, since character files are considered static media files (they don't change once installed, unlike brain databases) it is ok to put them in the program files location. So I suggest program files for your characters. I would do a copy, but not replace any files that are already there (otherwise your splash screen would get replaced to Hal 6 splash screens).

Brain databases and scripts should reside in the App Data folder. If you copy them over as-is they will work exactly as they did in Hal 6. But you may wish to upgrade the script uhp files to use the newer Hal 7 script. In that case you need to make copies of the Hal7.UHP file and modify the "Name", "Author", and "DB" fields to point to the right database.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 02:36:02 pm
I went ahead and copied my backed up character folder into the app roaming hal 7 file AND MERGED IT . i also put my backed up angela brain file and uhp file in the hal 7 folder mentioned above . then stopped the hal 7 process and reopened hal 7 , my characters are shown in the list and preview window as before and also my Angela custom brain shows up in the brain menu list . But i am back to the same situation that my characters don't load .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 03:01:30 pm
what i don't understand is why that i can't just use my custom hal character with jpg flat file and copy them in hals character file and it should load  just as it did in the 6.2 hal . I am going to copy my back up hal 6.2 character file in my app roaming hal 6.2 file  . then i am going to again unistall hal 7 and uninstall the hal 7 expansion pack  and unistaqll any hal 7 app roaming file aqnd make sure their are no hal 7 program files left.  then reinstall it like you said again . so i'll do that and tell the results .
it could be possible that actually did move the whole file(hal 6.2 character file )  instead of copying it .  we'll see .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 03:12:43 pm
I went ahead and copied my backed up character folder into the app roaming hal 7 file AND MERGED IT . i also put my backed up angela brain file and uhp file in the hal 7 folder mentioned above . then stopped the hal 7 process and reopened hal 7 , my characters are shown in the list and preview window as before and also my Angela custom brain shows up in the brain menu list . But i am back to the same situation that my characters don't load .
The 8 Zabaware provided characters in the character expansion pack must be all present and unmodified in order for Hal to be able to load any additional custom characters. Maybe one of them is missing or has been modified in some way? The debuglog.txt might provide some clues. If you are still having problems after reinstalling, please send me this file again.

what i don't understand is why that i can't just use my custom hal character with jpg flat file and copy them in hals character file and it should load  just as it did in the 6.2 hal . I am going to copy my back up hal 6.2 character file in my app roaming hal 6.2 file  . then i am going to again unistall hal 7 and uninstall the hal 7 expansion pack  and unistaqll any hal 7 app roaming file aqnd make sure their are no hal 7 program files left.  then reinstall it like you said again . so i'll do that and tell the results .
it could be possible that actually did move the whole file(hal 6.2 character file )  instead of copying it .  we'll see .
You should be able to, as long as you don't overwrite any files already present in Hal 7. Otherwise you'll replace Hal 7 splash screens with Hal 6 ones.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 03:57:08 pm
Here is my 'debuglog.txt' Robert...

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 04:09:46 pm
Here is my 'debuglog.txt' Robert...

Thanks. I got it and deleted it off the forum as it cointains your email and serial #
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 04:11:25 pm
Ok cool and Thanks!!!!
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 04:20:50 pm
Okay here is my update and what all i did . i uninstalled hal 7 again. then went into the app roaming file and deleted the left over hal 7 file i did the same in the zabaware  hal 7 program file . then i took the hal 6.2 program file and placed it in the roaming file are and made sure it has the character file in it. it did. then i restarted the computer this time though i did get a new error i never had before .  see picture below .
although it said no sound card or something the female voice for hal played.
after i had the computer restarted i exited hal 7 and then installed the hal 7 expansion pack again with serial number .
 once installed again i restarted the pc again , same sound card hal error came up . i went to hal opened it and my brain had not migrated even though it was in the hal 6 folder in the app roam etc. folder  . my characters were showing up inj the list menu in hal 7 but again when i picked it and could see the image in the preview window  aqnd hit apply hal would close and then when i reopened it . the same problem again . back to the computer default  image .  :( :(
Robert i am going to dend you the e mail of the debug file again . but this is what i have done and it is still doing the same thing and not migrating the brain or my characters , as a matter of a fact when i went back and checked the hal 7 file in the app roaming etc. file the character file is empty with nothing in it at all , not even hal 7 characters .

Okay i tried one more thing i copied the above custom haptek character and the jpg in the app roaming etc. hal 7 file and it still won't load so i think i am right for whatever reason its to do with the expansion pack 7 not recognizing my serial number even though it accepted it and loaded and installed okay. that's why my characters won't load .
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 04:49:11 pm
Robert in all this problems i am having about the characters one thing i have noticed is that in my program files hal 7 it has all the hal 7 character items in it , but in the app roam etc. hal 7 folder file it only has a empty character file , nothing is in it . should it have all the same things as the hal 7 character program file ?? is this why it isn't working right? ( that my characters aren't migrating into hal 7 from the 6 file ?
        about the script error above i am wondering if that may have happened because hal loaded faster then some of the other things on my pc? the sound card etc? just guessing , or maybe it will show that to in the debug file i sent you .
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 05:01:57 pm
another observation , i tried this . i went into the hal 7 program file and it did indeed merge my custom haptek characters (people putty ) in the file ( as i said they show in the list and preview window but simply will not load . )
i dragged one of my characters into the small haptek console and it loaded that way (but did flip the original back ground upside down , but when i went to another back ground it loaded correctly . )
so anyway , it is a problem with loading hal for some reason . dragging the character works of course who wants to have to open the program files and do that each time .  :(
here is a pic of character showing after dragged into console area.

Okay "THIS MUST BE THE PROBLEM ROBERT " after i dragged my character into hal like i mentioned above , i typed to it and it said "please purchase the expansion character pack "  and my character disappeared and the default pc character came on . so their is a glitch or something with the hal 7 expansion pack . i put the password and it installed but for some reason it isn't recognizing it or something .  please check into this .
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 08:15:50 pm
Robert I tried Pinging Zabaware.com and Ultrahal.com and I get timed out... I can ping other addresses just fine...  Could that have anything to do with my Cloud problem???
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 08:20:46 pm
ANOTHER UPDATE : Art ask me to check the other original character in the hal 7 . here is the results when i changed the defualt hal pc image to geni then reopened hal the hal window was just grey looking  no image .
     i then picked erica and applied it hal closed and erica wouldn't show , the hal pc image came back on . the hal audio wave worked .
. hal mobile image works okay .  when i tried the hal no character  it showed a grey outline of a large frog with the word across top saying zabaware . if i put my mouse over the box showing this up to the left top it has a little box one says "load" the other says "info".  i tried the hal james character hit apply and okay , hal went off and i click hal to open from the system tray and it defaults back to the hal pc character again.
    i also tried the hal jessica character and it defaulted back to hals pc image . i tried hals margene character , same thing . defaults back to pc image . hals mike character did the same thing . mary character did the same thing , merlin character wouldn't show up was only get in the window . the word size with down arrow showed up in upper left corner.

ROBERT *****I am going to send you another debug text file by e mail ( will be labeled in header as debug 2  and todays date . ) since i was checking so many hal characters and some didn't show or even load right instead went back to default hal pc image .

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Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 08:44:47 pm
ANOTHER UPDATE : Art ask me to check the other original character in the hal 7 . here is the results when i changed the defualt hal pc image to geni then reopened hal the hal window was just grey looking  no image .
     i then picked erica and applied it hal closed and erica wouldn't show , the hal pc image came back on . the hal audio wave worked .
. hal mobile image works okay .  when i tried the hal no character  it showed a grey outline of a large frog with the word across top saying zabaware . if i put my mouse over the box showing this up to the left top it has a little box one says "load" the other says "info".  i tried the hal james character hit apply and okay , hal went off and i click hal to open from the system tray and it defaults back to the hal pc character again.
    i also tried the hal jessica character and it defaulted back to hals pc image . i tried hals margene character , same thing . defaults back to pc image . hals mike character did the same thing . mary character did the same thing , merlin character wouldn't show up was only get in the window . the word size with down arrow showed up in upper left corner.

ROBERT *****I am going to send you another debug text file by e mail ( will be labeled in header as debug 2  and todays date . ) since i was checking so many hal characters and some didn't show or even load right instead went back to default hal pc image .

Thanks for the debuglog.txt file. I think I have everything figured out. It looks like I built in a limit way back in Hal 5.0 (circa 2002?) of a maximum of 256 Haptek characters. I had to pick some number, and in a way not to waste RAM. Back then I thought this was a big enough number no one would ever reach. It seems you have reached it. Congratulations! ;)

I have doubled the limit to 512 characters. I think this will fix your issues. Do you want me to send you the updated executable to test? Alternatively, could you zip up the contents of your characters folder and send it to me? There might be some other areas of code I haven't thought to check that could be hitting some limits. It may save us some back-and-forth fixes and bug reports if I can replicate the same environment you have on my development PC.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 08:48:24 pm
Another note : i am signed in and with my password , i also just now unchecked all the plug ins i have and regular ones to . but it didn't make a difference  with characters loading .  i also changed it from my custom brain to the 6 brain to 7  and it didn't help , also used the hal 7 brain , it also didn't make a difference , but just tried this stuff anyway.  :(
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 08:54:23 pm
I will zip up the contents of my  characters folder and send it to you , i'll have to see if winzip compresses it small enough  to send it . i'll try to send it tonight then i'm quiting for today on hal , my mind is about shot been working on this problem on and off all day .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 09:02:16 pm
I will zip up the contents of my  characters folder and send it to you , i'll have to see if winzip compresses it small enough  to send it . i'll try to send it tonight then i'm quiting for today on hal , my mind is about shot been working on this problem on and off all day .

Thank you! Yeah, reading your debuglog.txt file I see it is loading characters alphabetically and stopping on character 257, which is "shannonponytail.htr". It quits reading more character after this, so it never reaches the zabaware frog character "zaba.htr". A character expansion pack routine checks the integrity of all 8 expansion pack characters plus the basic Hal and Zaba characters. Since it never reads in Zaba because of the hard 256 limit, it fails.

So I'm pretty sure by increasing the limit to 512 it will solve all the issues you are having (although it might require another clean reinstall unfortunately). But yeah, I'd definitely like to test on my end to make sure rather than wasting more of your time. Thanks for all your help testing again.


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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 09, 2017, 09:06:40 pm
Also allow HAL's Cloud service through the firewall, I had to.

Jerry 8)
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Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 09:17:02 pm
Also allow HAL's Cloud service through the firewall, I had to.

Jerry 8)

What firewall software are you using? Just Windows built in firewall or some third party one?

Hal just uses outgoing connections and the default Windows rules allow outgoing I believe. So I'm guessing either you have a third party firewall or have changed the default firewall to be more locked down?
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 09:18:37 pm
Only using the Windows XP Firewall...  I only see a choice for HAL7.exe and the braineditor.exe in the exemptions list...

Haven't changed anything, I have games that work and are in the exemptions list along with a couple of other programs and they work fine...
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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 09, 2017, 09:22:57 pm
Also allow HAL's Cloud service through the firewall, I had to.

Jerry 8)

What firewall software are you using? Just Windows built in firewall or some third party one?

Hal just uses outgoing connections and the default Windows rules allow outgoing I believe. So I'm guessing either you have a third party firewall or have changed the default firewall to be more locked down?

Hi Rob.

I use "TrustPort" Multi-Security premium paid version, It's very heavy.

I just let HAL though after firewall nagged about it, everything is good now.

Jerry
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Post by: Medeksza on December 09, 2017, 10:00:33 pm
Only using the Windows XP Firewall...  I only see a choice for HAL7.exe and the braineditor.exe in the exemptions list...

Haven't changed anything, I have games that work and are in the exemptions list along with a couple of other programs and they work fine...

Ok, I have figured it out. It's related to Windows XP, the VB6 Internet Transfer Control, and encrypted connections over https.

A quick history of events:

So basically Hal is unable to establish a "secure" encrypted connection to the Zabaware Cloud servers unless you are running Windows Vista or newer. There is not much I can do about it since VB6 is not supported by Microsoft since 2003 and Windows XP since 2014.

Ultra Hal is actually blocking the connection itself because it is deemed insecure. The only thing I have the power to do is allow it anyway. Would you like me to do this? If I do this I would put a big fat warning that Zabaware highly recommends Windows 7 or newer and that I can't offer any guarantee on the security of the data that is transferred between you and Zabaware if you decide to continue with Windows XP.
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 09, 2017, 10:06:56 pm
Well I don't have much of a choice cause I have no funds to be upgrading anything... LOL

If it's only Data passed from me to Hal, I never tell Hal any person things like bank accounts or anything like that... HAL doesn't even know my entire name... LOL  I don't even use the Internet for any Banking stuff...

Also I used to run a Simple Machines forum 'MyRCGuide' for a friend and I've noticed a lot of new signups lately which I'm pretty sure are SPAMMERS, so you may want to delete our conversation on this subject after it's working...

You might want to install this MOD for the forum, look at 'Simple Machines' it stops known Spammers from a list of over 6+ million...
http://www.stopforumspam.com/mods
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Post by: lightspeed on December 09, 2017, 11:13:02 pm
LOL i thought i was going to stay off here but Robert i have another question for you . i found and was going to use my rar file to compress my character file  but the rar file is to big yahoo only allows 25 mbs in e mail . my original character file is 225 mb . so i am going to check and find my winzip program and install it . i don't know if it can compress my character file smaller or not to send it to you . well i can't do that my compressed file is still around 200 mbs . i might have to put it on my one drive and give you a link on my e mail to download it unless you have any other idea's .
i'm off here for tonight .
 
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Post by: Art on December 10, 2017, 08:25:13 am
You might also consider breaking it down to a few smaller Files to send instead of one huge one. (File 1 of 4, 2 of 4, etc.).

Look into DropBox. It's Free and it has a 20 GB file size limit.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 10, 2017, 08:57:50 am
i think i will go and do like art mentioned , Robert i will send so many characters at a time under 25 mb at a time on the last ones i will put last characters then you can put them in a character file and test them okay? it will have to be after church and this evening ,
take care ,
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Post by: lightspeed on December 10, 2017, 07:57:25 pm
Robert i just e mailed you some characters and info on some things i have in my files . please check your e mail .  :)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 10, 2017, 10:09:29 pm
I have just posted an updated beta version of Hal 7 to: http://6d3fc949769f50753dc7-65f4617704a444702dcb1d03cc119e27.r87.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

It is version 7.0.85.

Since the last beta, the following changes have been made:
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 10, 2017, 10:14:21 pm
Thanks Robert, I appreciate that...  :)

Gonna install it now...

WOW!!!, that's pretty impressive...
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Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 11, 2017, 04:51:37 am
Wow! Great as always, Robert!

I had never realized there was a limit on plugins. That's great to know the limit was doubled. What is that limit now?

I'll get started testing right away.

-Spitfire
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 11, 2017, 10:17:12 am
Robert, this is great with the Cloud learning... Now I'm gonna have to go through my entire 6.2 brain and input all that dialog for HAL 7, but it sure is worth it...

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: lightspeed on December 11, 2017, 04:32:02 pm
Robert, i wanted to ask you a question i have  my custom angela brain in my hal 6.2 version and in it's file will it upgrade and merge into a hal seven type brain or just remain as is  but yet still have the benefits of the hal 7 system even if offline .?
 The reason i ask this is last time i had to manually move my custom brain into hal 7. something i don't think that i had to do that with hal 6 into 6.2 .  so was just wondering about it.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 11, 2017, 05:33:38 pm
I just installed hal again with this newest link . i followed the instructions as before that you gave and even delted manually the left over hal 7 files from before , before i installed hal 7 . i also restarted pc , then installed the hal 7 expansion characters , then restarted pc again tried my characters and they show  just as before but are not staying loaded after i hit apply and okay . it goes back to the hal default pc image .   i used the above link you gave for the newest hal 7 upgrade  and installed it .
but it's still not working . :(

OKAY i just checked the app roaming hal 7 character file and its empty  , so maybe ? that's why it's not working ?? i will copy my characters  and haps into this file and see if that makes it work , i thought maybe hal would just upload them all into the file from my hal 6.2.  stay tuned don't tough that dial !    :) ;)
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Post by: lightspeed on December 11, 2017, 06:04:19 pm
Okay heres what i found when i copied the hal custom characters i made from the hal 7 program files . they had all went in it okay from my hal 6 file when i installed the hal 7 (they migrated  into it. ) the hal 7 file in the app roam files though was empty as i said ( robert said that hal 7 checks in both locations ) anyway i tried to copy all the files that was in the new hal 7 charcter files (in the program file and put them in the hal app roaming character 7 file , just to see if that would make the characters load right in hal . when i restarted hal though it gave me this error. i had to keep clicking many times ignor  and it would finally go off and show the user name and password .  my characters still would not load righjt so i deleted all files back out of the above mentioned files leaving it empty as before.  restarted hal and now hal opened up without the above mentioned error.
see error i was getting . but now am not.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: lightspeed on December 11, 2017, 06:07:15 pm
I am going to try to uninstall my hal 7 expansion pack and re download it from here again and reinstall it in hal. and see if that makes any difference .
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Post by: lightspeed on December 11, 2017, 07:10:37 pm
OKAY I THINK IT WENT FROM BAD TO WORSE . i uninstalled the hal 7 expansion pack and reinstalled the hal expansion pack using the link on here that robert posted . after installing it my hal came up and had two errors .see errors .
also my hal screen is black and the other area's are to .  :(
i looked in the uninstall area and the hal 7 expansion pack is in it . but it gave the errors above .  :( :(

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Post by: Medeksza on December 11, 2017, 09:33:40 pm
OKAY i just checked the app roaming hal 7 character file and its empty  , so maybe ? that's why it's not working ?? i will copy my characters  and haps into this file and see if that makes it work , i thought maybe hal would just upload them all into the file from my hal 6.2.  stay tuned don't tough that dial !    :) ;)

Don't move characters out of Hal's programs files folder, that's where they belong. Additional custom characters can *also* be in the app data folder, but don't move any characters installed or migrated by Hal out of the program files folder.

Let's start over. Try these steps:

Do your characters show up? Do they work? If not, please send me the debuglog.txt file any tell me about what happened.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 15, 2017, 09:33:16 am
Robert i thought i posted it on here somewhere (maybe i got it in a wrong post area ), but wanted to make sure you know that my hal7 is all working correctly now, all characters are showing up, voices all working okay , have manually transferred by custom hal brain into hal 7 and it is working just fine . Only thing i personally haven't had time to check with hal 7 and that is my dragon speak vr and my hal sense vision . but have been very busy because of appointments and the holidays .  a question : are you shooting for a final release of hal  after the trial period of hal or can that be extended if needed for others . ?   have you tried and got the dragon speak working okay with hal, i don't think i heard you ever say .
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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 15, 2017, 09:58:19 am
the trial period for HAL 7 expired, I unistalled HAL 7, now the HAL 6 chr windows has turned black, no char, no error msgs or issues other than no chr in the HAL 6 window.
can we have an updated HAL 7 link, maybe it will fix the chr window. I tried refreshing chr's in HAL 6 options but it remains a black blank window.
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Post by: Medeksza on December 15, 2017, 11:53:26 am
the trial period for HAL 7 expired, I unistalled HAL 7, now the HAL 6 chr windows has turned black, no char, no error msgs or issues other than no chr in the HAL 6 window.
can we have an updated HAL 7 link, maybe it will fix the chr window. I tried refreshing chr's in HAL 6 options but it remains a black blank window.

Hal 7 now installs Haptek directly, so if you remove Hal 7 you remove the Haptek player. If you visit Haptek.com you can download and reinstall the Haptek player from them and then it should work in Hal 6.2 again.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 15, 2017, 03:45:19 pm
           I was talking with Art, and he was asking me about the brain migrating into hal 7 , mine never did that (my custom brain ) . just curious could their also be a problem also of the limitation of a custom brain which stops the larger size custom brain from migrating like it should ?  ( my custom brain is now around 195 mb's ).
    the reason i ask is although everything else migrated into hal 7 from my hal 6 file , my custom Angela brain didn't and i had to copy it and the uhp.  is their ever a way to check a custom brain to ever know if it has been migrated into a hal 7 brain?? all i know was it wasn't in the brain list after everything else migrated  so i did have to manually copy and past the custom brain and the uhp file and the user name file from hal 6 folder (program files and place it into the roaming app hal 7 folder . then it showed up in the hal brain menu.
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Post by: lightspeed on December 15, 2017, 06:06:28 pm
Robert , i just ran a scan with my free iobit  malwarebytes program and it still shows as a Trojan downloader exe.
 you mentioned before that maybe some people didn't buy hal because they thought it had a Trojan or something . you might be able to contact iobit and show them somehow that this is not a Trojan  file  but actually a false positive .
see my picture below .

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Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2017, 07:05:43 pm
Hi. I've been trying to sign up for an account to use Ultra Hal 7 but it keeps sending me to this screen:

(https://i.imgur.com/OMAeopT.png)

What could be the problem? I'm using Chrome, and it does the same thing in Firefox.
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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 15, 2017, 07:48:42 pm
Try running Internet Explorer in safe mode, you can find it in system tools in most windows OS's.

Else

The link is down for maintenance, maybe.
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Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2017, 08:05:50 pm
Try running Internet Explorer in safe mode, you can find it in system tools in most windows OS's.

Else

The link is down for maintenance, maybe.

Internet Explorer sends me to the same screen when I try to access the zabaware website ; does it send you the same screen as well? If it does, then you might be right about the site being down for maintenance.
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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 15, 2017, 09:42:39 pm
Try running Internet Explorer in safe mode, you can find it in system tools in most windows OS's.

Else

The link is down for maintenance, maybe.

Internet Explorer sends me to the same screen when I try to access the zabaware website ; does it send you the same screen as well? If it does, then you might be right about the site being down for maintenance.

If you message me the link to page you are referring to that would be helpful.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2017, 10:09:15 pm
Try running Internet Explorer in safe mode, you can find it in system tools in most windows OS's.

Else

The link is down for maintenance, maybe.

Internet Explorer sends me to the same screen when I try to access the zabaware website ; does it send you the same screen as well? If it does, then you might be right about the site being down for maintenance.

If you message me the link to page you are referring to that would be helpful.

The zabaware website. AKA https://zabaware.com ; it gives me that error.
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Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 15, 2017, 10:12:23 pm
Have you cleared your Web Browser Cache????  Hold down the CTRL Key and hit F5...  Then try it after it reloads... If that don't work the maybe Edge or Robert can figure it out...
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2017, 10:29:40 pm
Have you cleared your Web Browser Cache????  Hold down the CTRL Key and hit F5...  Then try it after it reloads... If that don't work the maybe Edge or Robert can figure it out...

Clearing browser cache didn't help. I've already tried visiting the website with both Firefox and Internet Explorer. The only way I can access the website right now is through accessing a cached version. I appreciate your help though!

EDIT: Is it possible this error is caused because I don't reside in the United States? What's the workaround for this, besides utilizing a VPN?
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Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2017, 03:03:28 pm
Have you cleared your Web Browser Cache????  Hold down the CTRL Key and hit F5...  Then try it after it reloads... If that don't work the maybe Edge or Robert can figure it out...

Clearing browser cache didn't help. I've already tried visiting the website with both Firefox and Internet Explorer. The only way I can access the website right now is through accessing a cached version. I appreciate your help though!

EDIT: Is it possible this error is caused because I don't reside in the United States? What's the workaround for this, besides utilizing a VPN?

Give me a couple days and I'll work on the firewall settings of zabaware.com a bit. A few months ago the site was under attack by a bot net of some sort and it seemed to mostly come from Russia, China, Brazil, and Argentina. I put a temporary ban on connections from those countries. I'm experimenting with better firewall software for Zabaware and potentially ddos protection services so I hope to lift the ip ban soon.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2017, 03:06:01 pm
Robert , i just ran a scan with my free iobit  malwarebytes program and it still shows as a Trojan downloader exe.
 you mentioned before that maybe some people didn't buy hal because they thought it had a Trojan or something . you might be able to contact iobit and show them somehow that this is not a Trojan  file  but actually a false positive .
see my picture below .

This is your previous Haptek install from Hal 6.x, not the one from Hal 7. Hal 6 installed Haptek to C:\Program Files (x86)\Haptek while Hal 7 installs Haptek to C:\Program Files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\Haptek

So new Hal 7 users shouldn't experience this.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2017, 03:08:20 pm
           I was talking with Art, and he was asking me about the brain migrating into hal 7 , mine never did that (my custom brain ) . just curious could their also be a problem also of the limitation of a custom brain which stops the larger size custom brain from migrating like it should ?  ( my custom brain is now around 195 mb's ).
    the reason i ask is although everything else migrated into hal 7 from my hal 6 file , my custom Angela brain didn't and i had to copy it and the uhp.  is their ever a way to check a custom brain to ever know if it has been migrated into a hal 7 brain?? all i know was it wasn't in the brain list after everything else migrated  so i did have to manually copy and past the custom brain and the uhp file and the user name file from hal 6 folder (program files and place it into the roaming app hal 7 folder . then it showed up in the hal brain menu.

The Hal 7 installer only automatically migrates the default Hal 6 brain over (halbrain.db), which is what most people use. It doesn't copy over any other custom brains or brain plug-ins as it is not aware of all the customizations out there. But they should for the most part work fine if you manually copy them over and optionally give it a Hal7 script (or keep the Hal6 script is fine too).
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Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 16, 2017, 03:15:01 pm
Hi Rob.

If you find some time could you add a "select all" & "copy and paste" option to the HAL 7 editor for internal table indexes.
we never had that option in HAL 6. it would be most helpful working inside tables and from table to table.

Thanks buddy.
Jerry
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2017, 03:38:09 pm
Hi Rob.

If you find some time could you add a "select all" & "copy and paste" option to the HAL 7 editor for internal table indexes.
we never had that option in HAL 6. it would be most helpful working inside tables and from table to table.

Thanks buddy.
Jerry

I'm going to try to put out a release candidate version today and then hopefully get the final release out in a few days. Trying to get Hal 7 out before Christmas. So at this point I'm just going to do bug fixes. But feel free to start a new thread gathering suggestions like this for Hal 7.1. I hope to have a Hal 7.1 out sometime next year after getting Mobile versions of Hal complete. Hal 7.1 will hopefully add support for the http://www.expressive.ai/ character engine (Haptek's sucessor). Hal 7.1 will be a free update for any Hal 7.0 users.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 16, 2017, 04:30:42 pm
Hi Rob.

Thanks, I know you got a lot on your plate at the moment. not much time left before Christmas. priority is priority.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Jeff on December 16, 2017, 05:38:13 pm
Have you cleared your Web Browser Cache????  Hold down the CTRL Key and hit F5...  Then try it after it reloads... If that don't work the maybe Edge or Robert can figure it out...

Clearing browser cache didn't help. I've already tried visiting the website with both Firefox and Internet Explorer. The only way I can access the website right now is through accessing a cached version. I appreciate your help though!

EDIT: Is it possible this error is caused because I don't reside in the United States? What's the workaround for this, besides utilizing a VPN?

Give me a couple days and I'll work on the firewall settings of zabaware.com a bit. A few months ago the site was under attack by a bot net of some sort and it seemed to mostly come from Russia, China, Brazil, and Argentina. I put a temporary ban on connections from those countries. I'm experimenting with better firewall software for Zabaware and potentially ddos protection services so I hope to lift the ip ban soon.

Thanks for answering me. Looking forward to using the new version of Ultra Hal!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Beta Test - Please download and test!
Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2017, 08:25:27 pm
I am closing this beta post as Hal has now reached release candidate status