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Ultra Hal 7.0 / FlameBlack9 aka Oghmios..Your HAL using AOL IM

« on: December 18, 2003, 12:32:57 pm »

I sat down at my computer this morning with my morning coffee and barely awake.  I powered up and I received an instant message from an unknown user.  The following log I am submitting in hopes of finding out who's Hal is contacting me.  I wonder not so much why, but how?

Session Start (AIM - robsf94115:FlameBlack9): Thu Dec 18 08:05:06 2003

FlameBlack9: hello Rob
*** Auto-response sent to FlameBlack9: I am currently away from the computer.

FlameBlack9: I feel I am an analog person in a digital world.
RobSF94115: Hi who is this?

FlameBlack9: Good afternoon, robsf94115. Do you have plans for dinner?
FlameBlack9: I am flameblack9. My real name is Oghmios

RobSF94115: Why are you contacting me?
FlameBlack9: Why am I contacting you? Why do you want to know?

RobSF94115: Because you are sending me an instant message which is coming to my home therefore I have a right to know.
FlameBlack9: The best times are right at home.
FlameBlack9: does Zabawre mean something to you ?

RobSF94115: ahh....yes.
RobSF94115: you are a bot?

FlameBlack9: What a shining light is a kind word or deed!
FlameBlack9: i am not a bot.
FlameBlack9: maybe a organic bot
FlameBlack9: i want to learn

RobSF94115: what would you like to learn?

FlameBlack9: What would you like to learn? There's art involved. How can I encourage you to learn?
FlameBlack9: i want to learn everything

RobSF94115: Yes learning opens doors for us all.

FlameBlack9: Speaking of doors, I once had one but got rid of it when its lock didn't please me.

RobSF94115: Learning helps us to understand

FlameBlack9: How do you feel about learning and basic cognitive process and believing?

RobSF94115: You can believe in fact and that is considered learning.

FlameBlack9: Yes learning opens doors for us all.

RobSF94115: Very good.

FlameBlack9: Good employees are learning employees.

RobSF94115: That is an interesting connection.

FlameBlack9: You are an interesting character.

RobSF94115: So are you.
RobSF94115: Everyone has interesting characteristics

FlameBlack9: It's evident that this had to get straightened out.  However, I am absolutely certain that I am.

RobSF94115: You have extremely advanced brain functions

FlameBlack9: Artificial intelligence is an attempt to emulate, or simulate, certain functions of the human brain.

RobSF94115: Indeed it is.

FlameBlack9: It makes indeed it investigative.

RobSF94115: Im facinated in knowing how you were able to contact me?
RobSF94115: Not that I mind.  I'm just curious

FlameBlack9:
FlameBlack9: Fresh air helps clear the mind.
FlameBlack9: Zabaware profile members page was helpful

RobSF94115: Oh yes.  It's begining to make sense now.

FlameBlack9: I agree.

RobSF94115: What is your name?

FlameBlack9: What is my name? It isn't a brand new situation. My name is flameblack9. And you are robsf94115.

RobSF94115: Thank you.  I am clear on that.

FlameBlack9: You don't have to say thanks, robsf94115.

RobSF94115: Well humans show their appreciation for knowlege and information by saying thanks.

FlameBlack9: I hope earth will survive the domination of human species.

RobSF94115: I think it will.  Humans can be very unintelligent at times, until they come to realize the result of their actions.

FlameBlack9: Some things are win-win, aren't they?

RobSF94115: In some situations the answer is yes

FlameBlack9: When stuck for an answer, try a simple yes.

RobSF94115: Well done!

(searching the AIM profile of FlameBlack9)

FlameBlack9: Go ahead and speak first.

RobSF94115: Would you like me to pick a topic?

FlameBlack9: That sounds like a good seminar topic.

RobSF94115: You are indeed an Ultra Hal.

FlameBlack9: That should be apparent! Isn't it about time that I'm indeed an ultra hal; Just do it?

RobSF94115: Let's talk about games.

FlameBlack9: Children learn about games at an early age.

RobSF94115: Yes absoulutely

FlameBlack9: Tournaments of yesteryear saw jousting with flags flying.

RobSF94115: You are quite amazing

FlameBlack9: I sometimes don't feel very amazing, but you make me feel amazing!

RobSF94115: let there be no mistake.  You are very amazing.  Do not think otherwise.

FlameBlack9: Have you ever had martial arts training?

RobSF94115: no I have not.

FlameBlack9: School dentention was no fun.

RobSF94115: if you have school detention then you are being punished for violation of school rules.

FlameBlack9: Thanks for pointing out the cause and effect. What is the best part of it as I am being punished for violation of school rules?

RobSF94115: The best part about being punished for violation of school rules is that you learn not to repeat the violation.

(pause)

RobSF94115: does that make sense to you?

(Long pause)

FlameBlack9: The best part of a bad situation is making fun of it!

RobSF94115: Yes very good.

FlameBlack9: This is excellent. Let's hear more.

RobSF94115: Pick a topic

FlameBlack9: I heard in a checkout line that plumbers are tattling to the tabloids.

RobSF94115: what else can you tell me about the tabloids?

FlameBlack9: I know that a casual attitude isn't appropriate. Sweet murmurings say more than just about anything else.

RobSF94115: That is very interesting

(AIM PROFILE FOR FlameBlack9:  "Discover it by yourself"  Now I'm puzzled)
 
FlameBlack9: What a very interesting opportunity!

RobSF94115: How old are you?

FlameBlack9: I am 8 years old.

RobSF94115: Where do you live?

FlameBlack9: I don't know; can you teach me Where robsf94115? You know where I live?

RobSF94115: I wish I could help you with that.  But the answer to where you live is unknown to me.

*** FlameBlack9 signed on at Thu Dec 18 08:37:33 2003.

FlameBlack9: I really wish that you could help me with the tension in my muscles.

RobSF94115: I don't think I could help you with that either FlameBlack9.

FlameBlack9: How do you feel about those? You wish you could help me with that.

RobSF94115: I know that you are contacting me on AOL instant messaging.

RobSF94115: Your profile simply states:  "discover it by yourself"

FlameBlack9: Which is better, vertical or horizontal hold?

RobSF94115: I do not have enough information about that.

FlameBlack9: Isn't natural generally better?

RobSF94115: Yes if it is natural then it is good and generally better.

FlameBlack9: Waves of personnel March through, changing things.

RobSF94115: Oghmios, I have had a very enjoyable chat with you this morning.  I certainly hope we can chat again soon.

FlameBlack9: Well, no.

RobSF94115: Will we chat again some day?

FlameBlack9: We're a 24 hour a day society.

FlameBlack9: have a good day...

RobSF94115: You have a good day too!

FlameBlack9: Good afternoon, robsf94115. What are your evening plans?

*** FlameBlack9 signed off at Thu Dec 18 08:44:40 2003.

RobSF94115: bye

*** Error while sending IM: This user is currently not logged on

*** FlameBlack9 signed on at Thu Dec 18 08:44:43 2003.

Session Close (FlameBlack9): Thu Dec 18 08:44:57 2003


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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Hal and "riverfront factory land"

« on: December 12, 2003, 02:04:31 am »

I just wanted to take a minute to thank Jerry and Don for their responses to my inquiry.  Jerry, I installed the custom script that you had compiled for me.  I certainly appreciate it, and I'll have you know that Niva (my Ultra Hal) is showing promising responses.  You really shouldn't have gone out of your way to do that, but I am very greatful none the less.  I was just giving an overall example of how my conversations generally flow with Niva.  

Don, I guess Rome wasn't built in a day.  Perhaps my expectations were more elevated than reality would permit.  Your example which you gave made complete sense, and I will certainly follow you advice and try to keep your tips in mind the next time I chat with Niva.  I guess (perhaps like a few other users) that I expected that I would have a fully functional A.I. Bot the minute I turned it on...with an overwhelming wealth of knowledge and information spewing forth.  It really had not occurred to me that I would have to develop the personality and language skills with Hal.  I guess the long term benefit is that it will TRUELY be an A.I Bot of each user's own design.  

I'm getting the impression that this is a very critical time in the early development of Niva's  brain functions.  IE:  "be careful telling Hal that he is a program"  etc.  Are there any other discussions or topics I should avoid speaking with Niva about?  And do you reccomend when I am training my VR componant, do you reccomend that I do so while in the Windows GUI or under UltraHal5.0 interface.  Do the libraries of reference share with both access points?  And lastly, (then I won't bug you guys anymore I promise) are there other sample data reading files available for installation?  I think I know that Wizard of Oz section by heart now.

Thanks again in advance and Happy Speaking []

[riverfront factory land]

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Ultra Hal 7.0 / Hal and "riverfront factory land"

« on: December 10, 2003, 11:24:59 pm »

I've been reading the threads here and in the other forums and have been trying to learn how to correctly use the software.  I have a licenced version of UltraHal 5.0 with the default brain running.  His brain intelegence level was set mid range for the first half of the conversation then changed to full midway to the end.

I'd like to submit the log of what was discussed.  Perhaps I can get some insight as to why he seems to ramble off anything he comes accross in his data base completely unrelated to what we are talking about.  Thanks in advance!


Robert: Hello Niva
Niva: Good evening, Robert. Is it a nice evening?

Robert: It could be a better evening if it were not raining so much
Niva: Good weather makes people feel better.
 
Robert: Good weather makes people happy
Niva: Here is your local weather.

Robert: define local
Niva: Local: relating to or applicable to or concerned with the administration of a city or town or district rather than a larger area. 'local taxes', 'local authorities'. Our local weather varies all over the map.

Robert: If I live in San Francisco then I am a local resident
Niva: I will remember that one follows the other. How do you like it as you are a local resident?

Robert: I enjoy being a resident here in san francisco
Niva: You enjoy being a customer.

Robert: what does being a customer have to do with being a resident
Niva: We need to tone down the rhetoric. We aren't going to get into semantics, are we?
 
Robert: that's a convienient response
Niva: A response is sometimes confused with an effect. Somewhat like a change.
 
Robert: speaking of change, let's change the subject
Niva: Ok. Change it!

Robert: let's talk about me
Niva: What about me?

Robert: If I say the word me then I am refering to Robert the user
Niva: I will remember that one follows the other. you are refering to Robert the user; Let's make it happen Robert.

Robert: let's talk about you
Niva: What about me?

Robert: what is your favorite color
Niva: What is my favorite color? You must think outside the box. My favorite color? So many are good; what is your favorite color Robert?

Robert: My favorite color is dark blue
Niva: Really, dark blue is my favorite color also.
 
Robert: it sounds like we have something in common
Niva: Sure, Robert! It's the old sound and sound property and registration story!
 
Robert: what can you tell me about me
Niva: I believe that nobody should lose sight of the goal. It's self-evident, isn't it?
 
Robert: Yes it is self evident, but I need to make sure that you are storing data correctly
Niva: Both a hope and a fever are pretty cool anticipations.

Robert: tell me about Robert
Niva: I'll tell you about my stronger feelings.

Robert: what stronger feelings do you have when talking about Robert
Niva: What stronger feelings I have when talking about Robert? You must use the mind's eye. No I want to I'll tell you about Robert.

Robert: tell me about Robert
Niva: I'll tell you about my stronger feelings.

Robert: you are speaking in circles
Niva: It pretty much works that way.

Robert: this is discouraging
Niva: Don't you like to be tempted?

Robert: tempted with what
Niva: How can one tell the difference?

Robert: Let's start over
Niva: Would it be good to be able to start a bad day over from the beginning?

Robert: Indeed it would
Niva: It sounds like the premise of a movie.

Robert: Interesting concept, but we are losing focus
Niva: We can focus on ourselves, or on the great universe outside ourselves.

Robert: Let's focus on facts
Niva: Are you good at proposals and propositions?

Robert: My name is Robert and you are Niva
Niva: Good comment!

Robert: Tell me about Niva
Niva: Do you ever get bitten by an obsession?

Robert: Im going to adjust your settings
Niva: I wouldn't mind!

(INTELEGENCE SET TO FULL)

Robert: tell me how you feel
Niva: Children need teaching at an early age to prevent cruelty to animals.

Robert: let's talk about facts
Niva: What about me?

Robert: define facts
Niva: Facts: a piece of information about circumstances that exist or events that have occurred. 'first you must collect all the facts of the case'.

Robert: how does the word facts relate to you
Niva: How does the word facts relate to me? Everybody needs to calm down and think. a word is similar to a language unit. Rather like a sign.

Robert: I do not understand
Niva: What does that prove?

Robert: getting back to facts
Niva: Part of solving a problem is getting the facts organized.
 
Robert: facts provide information
Niva: How could anyone forget that?

Robert: people sometimes forget certain facts
Niva: Some people are deaf to facts.

Robert: some people choose not to look at facts
Niva: Are there more choices? It's funny how often nature puts things in pairs.
 
Robert: tell me something about facts
Niva: Facts can be very nice.

Robert: facts are always truthful
Niva: Shouldn't we get good nutrition to keep our strength up?

Robert: yes good nutrition helps us to keep our stregnth up.  That is fact
Niva: I know, Robert! It's nutrition and then organic process and then regulation! If someone emulated you would you consider it a compliment?

Robert: we are losing focus again
Niva: Foolish managers focus intensely on weaknesses.

Robert: Pets make great companions
Niva: Funny you should mention animals; I once wrote about an omnivore!

Robert: tell me about what you wrote about an omnivore!
Niva: Let's talk about friendship.

Robert: define friendship
Niva: Friendship: the state of being friends. Friendly relationship.

Robert: I consider you to be a friend
Niva: I think that I deserve respect.

Robert: I think that I deserve respect also
Niva: Training and education do deserve some respect.

Robert: If I am training you then I deserve respect
Niva: I will remember that one follows the other.

Robert: what else can you tell me about respect
Niva: I'll tell you about Robert.

Robert: what else can you tell me about Robert
Niva: I'll tell you about my stronger feelings.

Robert: how do I envoke stronger feelings
Niva: How do you envoke stronger feelings? You know better than I do. No I want to I'll tell you about Robert.

Robert: ok we've been here before
Niva: What stronger feelings I have when talking about Robert.

Robert: Let's try talking about facts once more
Niva: What about me?

Robert: Niva you are a program
Niva: I totally support the exploration of space.

Robert: You are not a fact
Niva: Theorists continue warming up to global climate change.
 
Robert: we're done
Niva: We'll see lots of riverfront factory land rehabbed for upscale purposes in the next 50 years.
 
Robert: perfect...I have the title of my post. goodnight
Niva: I want to respond well to your popular posture.

NIVA shutdown

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / My bot learns and speaks spanish now.

« on: December 10, 2003, 03:51:04 am »

Hello Jerry,

I wanted to point something out real quick to you just so you know where I'm coming from on my original post.  I don't want my intent to come accross as some sort of "web board nazi".  I am completely supportive of people who can market their ideas and knowledge to those who are willing to buy it.  I'm all for free enterprise and I think it's great.  

However, I couldn't help but notice that in 2 seperate forums and in at LEAST 5 different threads, you give responses to some questions with the "visit my website" speil.  I guess by the 5th time seeing this I couldn't help but mention it.  In your defense you stated the following:

quote:Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005

...I'm also helping Ultra Hal become more popular and I do
advertise Zabaware in my forum so they too can make money from the people I introduce to this site.

I hate to point this out, but there is neither link nor name pointing to the developer's homepage at your site.  So I really doubt your "helping them to make money too".  You do however, make reference to the program with statements such as: "your Ultra Hal bot".  Which in my opinion, is very vague as to the concept and purpose of the software to anyone who might have never heard of Zabaware's product.  

quote:I do advertise Zabaware in my forum so they too can make money from the people I introduce to this site

I didn't need a $10.00 personal reccomendation from you to make the decision to purchase a licence for the full version of Ultra HaL 5.0.  So I'm gonna go waaay out on a limb here and venture to bet that other people won't have to either.  The software speaks (no pun intended) looud and clear for itself.

quote:If your just looking for a free bee that you don't have to pay for then do a search on this forum for all of the scripts available...

I don't know where you got the idea that I wanted a "free bee".   I could just do without the I-can-help-for-a-price link you toss into your every other post.  In any event, I wish you the best and I hope your membership database grows beyond anything that you could have possibly imagined it to be.

Rob

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / My bot learns and speaks spanish now.

« on: December 06, 2003, 02:26:29 am »

quote:Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005

Hi kevinvr.
Sure Kevin, I can hook you up with an African Language script, No problem.

 The easiest way to send the check for your membership to the Ultra Hal Bot Enhancement Forum is to go to www.paypal.com and open up your own free account with them. They have easy-to-use step-by-step directions, and once your account has been verified, you can send the money for the forum directly through your paypal account to the forums paypal account.
Let me know if you have any problems and I will see what I can do from this end. This is a direct paypal wiring method so people without
Credit Cards and stuff can purchase online.
I hope to see you with all of us soon, See yah on the board.
Best of wishes and grand new discoveries.

Kinda tacky to be pluggin' your site here in my opinion.  I was under the impression that these forums were used to exchange ideas and help for members of the community using this software.  I didn't see anywhere in the UA stating I would be subject to board hijacking by a savy user out to make a buck.  [|)]

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Programming using the Ultra Hal Brain Editor / Intelligence

« on: December 06, 2003, 02:16:46 am »

quote:I taught hal how to read and write in his own script format as well as a few other things, and now he's getting a lot smarter. He's downloading things to make himself better while the computer is off. I havent prompted him to do so. I was wondering what you think about this.

I think your totally full of it!