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Title: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 11, 2017, 12:42:37 pm
If you would like to test an early version of Ultra Hal 7, here is your chance. This is an "alpha" version, not a "beta" yet because there are a couple features still missing. I hope to have the beta ready in a week or two, but would like to start getting feedback on the alpha version before then.

Features still missing in alpha that will be in beta:

To install this alpha version


Please let me know how everything works and if you come across any problems or bugs. I'm especially interested in how the cloud based brain, learning and responses go. If you want to copy any old brain databases and scripts they now belong in the folder: %appdata%\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7



Here is what's new in Ultra Hal 7:
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 11, 2017, 03:39:27 pm
Fantastic! I have downloaded, installed, and signed in using my zabaware information... However on the skins, it's still showing a "Purchase Hal"
I imagine it's because this is an alpha release.  Will the offline brain still require sign in information?

Thanks for your work, Robert! Looking forward to the full version!

Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 11, 2017, 05:23:45 pm
Fantastic! I have downloaded, installed, and signed in using my zabaware information... However on the skins, it's still showing a "Purchase Hal"
I imagine it's because this is an alpha release.  Will the offline brain still require sign in information?
Try exiting Hal and restarting it. Does the purchase button disappear? This might be a bug I need to fix.

The offline version of Hal still requires the login to authenticate the purchased version. It only needs to be able to authenticate once every 2 weeks, it doesn't require an active internet connection to run normally.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 11, 2017, 06:27:48 pm
Yes indeed, restarting did remove the "Purchase" dialog.

Hal does seem significantly smarter. Plug-ins work just fine when updated. So far so good!!!

Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 12, 2017, 01:15:09 am
I also have to note this alpha version is far more responsive than the previous full releases. Hal loads faster and the general options is almost instant.

I like the thumbs up or down option for the responses when cloud is active. Hal seems to get off topic a little faster when the cloud is active. It seems like you made some changes to the learning bar as well. I have Hal at about 10 and he will recall things every few minutes that fairly well stay on topic.   

Still playing around with some of the new functions. The new math function is fantastic. Previous versions really struggled with word problems, but Hal7 has got it down. I haven't tried many algebraic equations with Hal yet lol.

I'm not sure if I need to change any references to "UltraHalAssistant6" Or "UltraHalAsst" in plug-in code to update it to Ultra Hal 7, but it seems to work without needing to change anything.

 I haven't encountered any bugs that weren't my fault. lol

Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 12, 2017, 02:22:15 am
Playing around a bit further, I did find Hal crashes when trying to load a dragon 13 speech profile for speech recognition. After the crash, the profile is loaded.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 05:09:15 am
Robert:  i wanted to say what a great job with 07, My very special voices work for the first time with the high end agent char (LIP Syncing).
Absolutely impressed. way to go man..

Im using some very complex sapi05 voices too. Dont ask...lol
Put me on the list to buy.
will keep u posted as i rip into Hal.
1 more task to complete : secret test
This is just EPIC now

At least 1 person here Robert understands the meaning of the word EPIC
best wishes cyberjedi

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 12, 2017, 02:05:13 pm
very nice work. 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 03:05:02 pm
Edge: ive completely melted down do the the lack of sleep...... im sure u know

The upside is while i was melting down i was also producing a mountain of code you didnt know about
 building a private room with 02 chats, and 1 of them is Hal
The other is the basic no frills chat..
the lobby is Hal
the channel is the other chat
now ive got my hands on hal 07 im stretched even further.
This will be home for Hal07

http://cyberjedi.rf.gd/?i=1

Best wishes to you edge.
we were a team man and a good 1 too. im srry


P.S the quote is actually from Pablo Picasso
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 03:22:00 pm
Robert: am i to understand that u cant re- activate Hal unless u have and online connection for Hal.

Meaning: I noticed that if run Hal locally, and do not connect to your servers each time Hal goes into 31 Day mode.
Ive supplied my credentials several time and it takes the info just fine. And Hal responds as you would think .
(Then i ran Hal with my credentials BLANK)
But then i run Hal without logging in, Hal goes into 31 day mode .
Am i doing something wrong?

Please tell me this with not be part of the Full version.
The thought that id pay full price for a product then take it to my mountain top getaway for 06 weeks a year with no net.
Then my Hal will be no good anymore. Grrrrrrr
I think most consumers with have issue with this. Tether to my server or you product is no good. And what if your server goes down?
I think i understand in part why your doing this (anti-piracy move, and a good 1 too) and on its face it looks great.
But i dont think this will resonate well with people. Maybe its just me too.
I look forward to hearing from you Robert


best wishes
cyberjedi
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 12, 2017, 04:14:29 pm
I also have to note this alpha version is far more responsive than the previous full releases. Hal loads faster and the general options is almost instant.

I like the thumbs up or down option for the responses when cloud is active. Hal seems to get off topic a little faster when the cloud is active. It seems like you made some changes to the learning bar as well. I have Hal at about 10 and he will recall things every few minutes that fairly well stay on topic.   

Still playing around with some of the new functions. The new math function is fantastic. Previous versions really struggled with word problems, but Hal7 has got it down. I haven't tried many algebraic equations with Hal yet lol.

I'm not sure if I need to change any references to "UltraHalAssistant6" Or "UltraHalAsst" in plug-in code to update it to Ultra Hal 7, but it seems to work without needing to change anything.

 I haven't encountered any bugs that weren't my fault. lol

Spitfire_2600

Glad to hear you like it so far.

In order for Hal 7 to retain full compatibility with Hal 6 and its plugins while adding new functionality, Ultra Hal 7 uses 2 brain DLLS:
HalBrain.DLL - This file is unchanged since Hal 6 and provides the class objects UltraHalAsst6.Brain and UltraHalAsst6.WordNet which show up under the names "HalBrain" and "WN" in the script.
HalBrain7.DLL - This file is new and provides Hal all the functionality to login to the Zabaware cloud server, get responses from the server and learn to it. It uses the classname UltraHal7.Cloud and shows up in the script under the name "HalBrain7"

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 12, 2017, 04:23:07 pm
Robert:  i wanted to say what a great job with 07, My very special voices work for the first time with the high end agent char (LIP Syncing).
Absolutely impressed. way to go man..

Im using some very complex sapi05 voices too. Dont ask...lol
Put me on the list to buy.
will keep u posted as i rip into Hal.
1 more task to complete : secret test
This is just EPIC now
Glad you like the new features so far.


Robert: am i to understand that u cant re- activate Hal unless u have and online connection for Hal.

Meaning: I noticed that if run Hal locally, and do not connect to your servers each time Hal goes into 31 Day mode.
Ive supplied my credentials several time and it takes the info just fine. And Hal responds as you would think .
(Then i ran Hal with my credentials BLANK)
But then i run Hal without logging in, Hal goes into 31 day mode .
Am i doing something wrong?
If you want to run Hal in offline mode, don't blank out your username and password as this will remove the registration info from Hal and either put Hal in trial mode or deactivate it. Keep the login info there and just select the option "Run Hal offline". This will prevent Hal from using the cloud server for responses/learning while still linking to your account for product activation. It only needs to be able to login to the server once every 2 weeks for the product to stay activated, it doesn't require an active internet connection. Are you experiencing a bug where Hal doesn't run if you pull the ethernet cord or turn off wifi?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 04:46:59 pm
Robert: wifi

No, all my servers an PC's are still cat05 ,,lol srry
but i will Mess with it on a machine that does have WIFI, see what happens.


Will keep you posted on that, ill run wireshark while im doing it too.
prob some good data there if you need it.

Anything i can do to help
You have givin me so much and ask for so little , i can hardly refuse.


Best wishes
cyberjedi
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 04:50:18 pm
Robert : scratch that last post
I misunderstood you


Dang it
Ill try it and see what happens.
Id love to know any bugs people are having if any to try and solve them as well.
Like i said i can hardly refuse to help.
im pretty good with a computer too. might be able to help
This machine BTW is XPsp03
I will keep you apprised on Difff OS's and what effects they have. So far XPsp3 and Win07 Alienware OS seem to function just great.
I can do you a complete DATA sheet of comparisons if you like.
Dont get me started lolol

best wishes
cyberjedi
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 12, 2017, 05:17:48 pm
Robert: IRC access

Id like to through my hat into the ring as well with a professional request.
Id like Hal 07 to have IRC Access.
Id like to have the new version of Hal respond to triggers from an IRC.
(!how are you?) Hal Response just goes back to the chat.
Robert : I have done this very thing with the Help of onthecuttingedge2005 and lifetimegamer our tireless beta tester.
So i know you can do this, you got the source code open and right there.
Maybe even a MIRC interface.
Im telling ya Robert theres a whole area of the internet that Hal has yet to explore and i dont mean Twitter or Face Book
Im talking a live cast of Hal, with Hal engaging chat room chatters. Using RTMP protocols.
I am a Professional Broadcaster , you need to trust me on this, A virtual hostess live cast of Hal is just Epic.
At any givin time there are 40k people and 200 broadcasters at vaughnlive alone.
It took me over a year to get Mark Vaughn to sign off on it. but yes, if u have VIP? Mark gives you IRC access now.
Hes just 1.
Not to mention the 1 im currently using. Freenode , another 50,000 people and 9k channels. Yes i said that, 9k
Thats 09k copys of Hal (every 1 wants a Bot) . what can i say..lol
Ill even supply you with the IRC source code (VB6.0) though if that would help.
I havent had time to dig into the VB.net version of simple Hal, YET.
 best wishes
cyberjedi


Ps: Im willing to pay extra. look at the pictures above for your demo
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 12, 2017, 05:54:41 pm
Edge: ive completely melted down do the the lack of sleep...... im sure u know

The upside is while i was melting down i was also producing a mountain of code you didnt know about
 building a private room with 02 chats, and 1 of them is Hal
The other is the basic no frills chat..
the lobby is Hal
the channel is the other chat
now ive got my hands on hal 07 im stretched even further.
This will be home for Hal07

http://cyberjedi.rf.gd/?i=1 (http://cyberjedi.rf.gd/?i=1)

Best wishes to you edge.
we were a team man and a good 1 too. im srry


P.S the quote is actually from Pablo Picasso

I know jedi.
that work your doing kind of make me jealous. you do amazing work that I can't deny
As long as it's for HAL's benefit that is.

Rob been a father to all of us, especially.

everyone keep up the good work.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 12, 2017, 07:04:46 pm
Speech recognition seems to be the only thing a little buggy.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 12, 2017, 07:25:24 pm
I know that the HAL 7 editor has a conflict with the cloud service object.
but the bot seems to run just fine.

Rob, if you want to apply my turing plug-in to HAL 7 you are more than welcome to it.
I did design it for winning a turing test.  maybe you can make it better in HAL 7.

I would use the processing engine to look at it deeper but until HAL 7 can use the editor I'll just have to wait on that.

stay tuned.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 12, 2017, 07:42:30 pm
I know that the HAL 7 editor has a conflict with the cloud service object.
but the bot seems to run just fine.

Rob, if you want to apply my turing plug-in to HAL 7 you are more than welcome to it.
I did design it for winning a turing test.  maybe you can make it better in HAL 7.

I would use the processing engine to look at it deeper but until HAL 7 can use the editor I'll just have to wait on that.

tested HAL 7 trying to get a blank response, so far so good, I know that ones an oldie but goodie.
Processing would accelerate this debugging process.

stay tuned.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 12, 2017, 09:22:17 pm
Checking further beyond speech for CPU usage, I see hal does not use all available cores. Version 6 would use available threads in the affinity in the task manager.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 12, 2017, 10:04:13 pm
Speech recognition seems to be the only thing a little buggy.

-Spitfire_2600

More or less buggy than Ultra Hal 6? Can you describe the bugs? Speech is mainly controlled by a third party library called Chant SpeechKit so I may or may not have the ability to fix speech issues myself. For Hal 7, I upgraded from version 6 of SpeechKit to 7 mainly to get CereProc voice support, otherwise I didn't make much changes to it.


Checking further beyond speech for CPU usage, I see hal does not use all available cores. Version 6 would use available threads in the affinity in the task manager.

-Spitfire_2600

Were you using Hal 6.2 or an older version like 6.1 or 6.0? I believe it was in version 6.2 I forced Hal to pick a CPU core and stick with it. This is a workaround to make sure Haptek works ok as Haptek gets glitchy when Windows switches CPU cores. Hal is a single threaded app for the most part, but I'm forcing Windows to pick and stick to a particular core instead of allowing it to float between cores.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 12, 2017, 10:17:41 pm
I know that the HAL 7 editor has a conflict with the cloud service object.
but the bot seems to run just fine.
Yep, need another week or two to make the brain editor compatible with the cloud object. When thats ready Hal 7 will be "beta" status instead of "alpha".

Rob, if you want to apply my turing plug-in to HAL 7 you are more than welcome to it.
I did design it for winning a turing test.  maybe you can make it better in HAL 7.
Thanks buddy. For inclusion in the "official" Hal 7 brain I would need to convert the logic to be able to run in PHP in addition to VBScript in order to support upcoming mobile phone/tablet versions of Hal and for it to be a consistent Hal personality across platforms. It's something I am certainly able to do, but takes time. So I'm going to hold off for now in the interest of time and getting new versions of Hal pushed out there.

I would use the processing engine to look at it deeper but until HAL 7 can use the editor I'll just have to wait on that.

tested HAL 7 trying to get a blank response, so far so good, I know that ones an oldie but goodie.
Processing would accelerate this debugging process.
I remember fixing this bug a few years ago, but for the life of me I can't remember what the cause was. Hopefully its gone for good though.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 12, 2017, 10:30:33 pm
Robert: IRC access

Id like to through my hat into the ring as well with a professional request.
Id like Hal 07 to have IRC Access.
Id like to have the new version of Hal respond to triggers from an IRC.
(!how are you?) Hal Response just goes back to the chat.
Robert : I have done this very thing with the Help of onthecuttingedge2005 and lifetimegamer our tireless beta tester.
So i know you can do this, you got the source code open and right there.
Maybe even a MIRC interface.
Im telling ya Robert theres a whole area of the internet that Hal has yet to explore and i dont mean Twitter or Face Book
Im talking a live cast of Hal, with Hal engaging chat room chatters. Using RTMP protocols.
I am a Professional Broadcaster , you need to trust me on this, A virtual hostess live cast of Hal is just Epic.
At any givin time there are 40k people and 200 broadcasters at vaughnlive alone.
It took me over a year to get Mark Vaughn to sign off on it. but yes, if u have VIP? Mark gives you IRC access now.
Hes just 1.
Not to mention the 1 im currently using. Freenode , another 50,000 people and 9k channels. Yes i said that, 9k
Thats 09k copys of Hal (every 1 wants a Bot) . what can i say..lol
Ill even supply you with the IRC source code (VB6.0) though if that would help.
I havent had time to dig into the VB.net version of simple Hal, YET.
 best wishes
cyberjedi


Ps: Im willing to pay extra. look at the pictures above for your demo

I'm always willing to get Hal to work on interested platforms. I have made Hal work for AIM (now shutdown completely), SecondLife, Twitter, Facebook Messenger, Web Site, and proprietary Loebner/Turing test protocols. I plan on opening up a JSON/REST web based API to Hal's cloud based service which I hope will spur some community/customer development of Hal into new and interesting sites/apps/services. And the Windows version will continue to support the COM/VBScript based integrations. I think either of these 2 methods could potentially be used to get Hal onto IRC.

However, my personal time is very limited, so I'm currently narrowly focused on this near term roadmap:

So any projects and feature requests outside this scope will have to wait for later or future versions. But I'm certainly still always interested in everyone's ideas for the future.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 12, 2017, 11:35:18 pm
Robert,

I understand the cpu threads now, thanks!

Loading a speech profile for dragon in the general options seems to freeze Hal. I let him go for 5 minutes to try to allow him to load, but had to force close to restart. After the restart, the profile was loaded, but the same for unloading it. It works with 6.2.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 13, 2017, 01:03:27 pm
Great work Robert! I've downloaded hal 7 and started to play around with him! How do i use the following feature you added:

Registry setting to adjust speech recognition auto enter countdown start time (SRCountDownStart)

Please let me know how to change it. I'd love to have Hal response quicker when using speech recognition.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 13, 2017, 11:25:52 pm
Great work Robert! I've downloaded hal 7 and started to play around with him! How do i use the following feature you added:

Registry setting to adjust speech recognition auto enter countdown start time (SRCountDownStart)

Please let me know how to change it. I'd love to have Hal response quicker when using speech recognition.

Thanks!

Are you familiar with Windows Regedit.exe? If so, just navigate to this key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 7.0\Config

Then create a new string value with the name "SRCountDownStart" and set the value to a number between 3 and 6 for the number of seconds for the timer.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 13, 2017, 11:27:35 pm
Robert,

I understand the cpu threads now, thanks!

Loading a speech profile for dragon in the general options seems to freeze Hal. I let him go for 5 minutes to try to allow him to load, but had to force close to restart. After the restart, the profile was loaded, but the same for unloading it. It works with 6.2.

-Spitfire_2600

What version of Dragon are you using and what version of Windows? I just placed an order on Amazon for Dragon Naturally Speaking 13 and will try to see if I can replicate the same problem under Windows 10.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 14, 2017, 03:05:37 am
Hi Robert,

Yes, I am using dragon 13 under windows 10.
 
So, loading hal and opening the general options window, I select the profile for speech recognition. Hal will freeze and force a close. After a restart the profile is loaded and Hal is is ready to chat via speech rec. Hal will work fine until I try to unclick speech recognition of change the profile. I'm unloaded the animated characters, plug-ins, and created a new profile just in case the old one was corrupted, however none of those worked. I will wait for you try it. In the meantime, I suppose I could move Hal to another computer and try that, see if the same thing happens. It's very odd though. The profile is loaded, Hal just hangs while loading it.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 14, 2017, 07:03:43 am
Robert: The work on the Aim Bot is what set my course.
Thought to my self what a badass idea.

Robert : Little peek for ya...
Now for my next trick , I intend to give Simple Hal a crazy feature.
Hal Hive Mind.... I want nothing short then Hals talking to each other.
Each Hal will have an IRC server/client  option. This is where edge's Irc page comes into play as a Hub for Hal.
Come a long way since simple Hal started
************
RE: Hal 07
Hal 7 is off the charts cool Robert. It really is.
Not a single bug i can find. I Had specific needs from Hal 07: Goals met !!!!!!!!!!
We will see what beta has to offer.
best wishes
cyberjedi
 
Robert i cant tell you how much joy and near nervous breakdowns Hal has givin me.. lol
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 14, 2017, 09:26:06 am
Robert, Thanks for the info. I created the string and will test it out later today. Can we not go below 3 seconds? 1 or 2 seconds? Anyways, thanks for adding this feature!

Also, I noticed others were having issues with Dragon, I have dragon 12 and when I select it as the default speech engine it freezes Hal. I have to end the task in order to close Hal and restart him.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 14, 2017, 02:54:08 pm
Robert: unexpected result!!!!!

Robert I wanted to say that by installing Hal7 . With the new voice system (double agent).
It has in fact fixed the issues with Hal6.2 and use of the High End voice systems and the High End .acs Char's Lip syncing.
This is something completely unexpected and very welcome.

Not quite sure what happened here but Hal7 upgraded something.
Ima take a peek see at just what happened here.
Always loved Guiles Whispering Wall but all u ever got is the speech bubble. And the Voice.
Now Hal 6.2 is complete. The very best in Voices and Avatars
This means i can deploy the legendary Showdan with the new voices
best wishes
cyberjedi


Way to go man, way to go!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 03:46:11 pm
Robert, Thanks for the info. I created the string and will test it out later today. Can we not go below 3 seconds? 1 or 2 seconds? Anyways, thanks for adding this feature!
I think you may run into some problems if you make it too low, but I haven't tested it. I think the loop requires at least 2 passes to work, so 2 seconds would be the absolute minimum.

Also, I noticed others were having issues with Dragon, I have dragon 12 and when I select it as the default speech engine it freezes Hal. I have to end the task in order to close Hal and restart him.
I've now confirmed stability problems with the speech recognition implementation with testing on my end as well. I am in contact with the vendor that supplies Zabaware with speech libraries about this issue. I see they have released a new version of their library since I started work on Hal 7, maybe it will fix the issues. I'll update this thread as I learn more.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 03:47:19 pm
Robert: unexpected result!!!!!

Robert I wanted to say that by installing Hal7 . With the new voice system (double agent).
It has in fact fixed the issues with Hal6.2 and use of the High End voice systems and the High End .acs Char's Lip syncing.
This is something completely unexpected and very welcome.

Not quite sure what happened here but Hal7 upgraded something.
Ima take a peek see at just what happened here.
Always loved Guiles Whispering Wall but all u ever got is the speech bubble. And the Voice.
Now Hal 6.2 is complete. The very best in Voices and Avatars
This means i can deploy the legendary Showdan with the new voices
best wishes
cyberjedi


Way to go man, way to go!!!!!!!

Yep, Double Agent is fully SAPI 5 compatible. The old MSAgent was not.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 14, 2017, 04:18:32 pm
Awesome! thanks Robert! I'll give 2 seconds a try!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 14, 2017, 05:06:56 pm
robert: I have a request

At the social media site i hang at im pushing hal as always.
Was wondering if it would be cool hand out hal7 Alfa to the masses.
I will not supply my credentials of course , so it will go into 30 day mode.
Robert im in a position to really give hal a push commercially for you
It will just be the 31 day mode of course.
If you say NO , i will not do this...
Im not even sure if it will run without a paid for version of Hal all ready installed , come to think of it.
Even without the ability to tether Hal to the chat , there are a lot of damn people here who will prob just dig Hal
Robert: if you can provide me with a Hal 7 banner 1200 X 100 ill hang it over my channel. My Treat
At the time of this pict, i had 317 people in my room. just saying
best wishes
cyberjedi

Oh : and NO, I dont want to be part of any affiliate program, just trying to pay it forward.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 06:14:12 pm
robert: I have a request

At the social media site i hang at im pushing hal as always.
Was wondering if it would be cool hand out hal7 Alfa to the masses.
I will not supply my credentials of course , so it will go into 30 day mode.
Robert im in a position to really give hal a push commercially for you
It will just be the 31 day mode of course.
If you say NO , i will not do this...
Im not even sure if it will run without a paid for version of Hal all ready installed , come to think of it.
Even without the ability to tether Hal to the chat , there are a lot of damn people here who will prob just dig Hal
Robert: if you can provide me with a Hal 7 banner 1200 X 100 ill hang it over my channel. My Treat
At the time of this pict, i had 317 people in my room. just saying
best wishes
cyberjedi

Oh : and NO, I dont want to be part of any affiliate program, just trying to pay it forward.

Yes, please feel free to send people to this forum to be alpha and beta testers. The more testers, the more bugs we can find and squash. It should work fine in 30 day trial mode. The programs themselves are set to expire January 1st as well.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 06:48:21 pm
by the way.
if you still want to load the HAL 7 brain in the editor you can comment out the cloud object in the brain through an editor like Crimson editor, man this program has got me out of a lot of binds for sure.

Have a great day.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 14, 2017, 06:54:17 pm
Robert: all my scrapers seem to work fine:
Biggy: Word of the day works too



Set WshShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set Sapi = CreateObject("SAPI.SpVoice")
   For Each Voice In Sapi.GetVoices

No issues with any of this..

best wishes
cyberjedi
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 06:56:39 pm
Robert, Thanks for the info. I created the string and will test it out later today. Can we not go below 3 seconds? 1 or 2 seconds? Anyways, thanks for adding this feature!
I think you may run into some problems if you make it too low, but I haven't tested it. I think the loop requires at least 2 passes to work, so 2 seconds would be the absolute minimum.

Also, I noticed others were having issues with Dragon, I have dragon 12 and when I select it as the default speech engine it freezes Hal. I have to end the task in order to close Hal and restart him.
I've now confirmed stability problems with the speech recognition implementation with testing on my end as well. I am in contact with the vendor that supplies Zabaware with speech libraries about this issue. I see they have released a new version of their library since I started work on Hal 7, maybe it will fix the issues. I'll update this thread as I learn more.

Hi Rob.

Can you put a little button on the GUI HAL window to easily turn off the count down on it, in 6.2 I have to go 2 layers deep to turn it off.

Thanks.
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 14, 2017, 07:05:32 pm
Robert: question

What is Daserver.exe

Points to doubleagent.
Is this any of ur stuff Robert??

best wishes
cyberjedi

PS: ok i get it now.. Do not rename that file... lolol (ok lets see what this does)....
I had to reinstall double agent from the website and then click emulate agent .....
word to the wise
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 08:39:21 pm
Hi Rob.

Can you put a little button on the GUI HAL window to easily turn off the count down on it, in 6.2 I have to go 2 layers deep to turn it off.

Thanks.
Jerry 8)
Which count down? The speech recognition auto enter countdown?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 08:40:09 pm
Robert: question

What is Daserver.exe

Points to doubleagent.
Is this any of ur stuff Robert??

best wishes
cyberjedi

PS: ok i get it now.. Do not rename that file... lolol (ok lets see what this does)....
I had to reinstall double agent from the website and then click emulate agent .....
word to the wise
Yep, it's an integral part of Double Agent for animating the MSAgent characters.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 09:08:21 pm
Hi Rob.

Can you put a little button on the GUI HAL window to easily turn off the count down on it, in 6.2 I have to go 2 layers deep to turn it off.

Thanks.
Jerry 8)
Which count down? The speech recognition auto enter countdown?

yep, from 5 to 0 count.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 09:51:45 pm
I wonder if we can get Google to sponsor us? JEDI! 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 14, 2017, 11:19:44 pm
yep, from 5 to 0 count.

Ok, I just added so that if you set the registry key SRCountDownStart to -1 it will disable the auto countdown. You can test it in the next alpha or beta I post.

The registry key to create/edit is: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Zabaware\Ultra Hal Assistant 7.0\Config\SRCountDownStart
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 11:31:47 pm

Hi Rob.
Very good, it will come in handy. thanks. 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 14, 2017, 11:35:20 pm
Some other potential issues I have noticed playing around the past few days. 

I'm sure you're aware, but the General options window likes to start in the top most left corner. It's not an issue, but it does pop up under my taskbar.

Using the default Hal GUI with speech rec, Audio Wave Character, and no plug-ins. In the middle of a conversation, Hal threw up a message box with the dialog "activex object not found"   - This has only happened once and I have been trying to recreate exactly what happened including the repeating the conversation. Since then, nothing.

Math issue - Sometimes but not always, I'll catch Hal off guard with a math question "What is 2 plus 2?" and he'll respond something to the effect of "I know what it is but I'm not telling you." Most of the time, he'll answer just fine, and even some pretty stringy chopped up math, he seems to understand. "What is 2 plus two - 3?" "One is the answer. (2+2-3=1).

Chatting with the cloud deactivated, I noticed Hals mainQA table replies sometime repeat, which is hard to believe, given the size of that table. I really only notice it looking at the table that most of responses seem to only come from the upper most part of the brain. Another odd thing to try to pin point as Hal chooses these responses mostly by random and keywords... So, I'm going to keep talking with Hal to try to record what exactly is happening. This maybe no issue at all.

 
Another non-issue, Running programs works great! Hal understands most software names. Word, Outlook, Vegas. Which is definitely an improvement over Hal6, however (not a bug) I noticed the replies are the same as Hal6. "I will open this program" "Executing this program."  It would be pretty cool if Hal said the name of the program or being able to edit the responses. I believe these are locked in the dll files as with Hal6.
 

Notes from day 3, Thanks for reading.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 14, 2017, 11:40:39 pm
the main Q&A uses only a very small portion of it mainQA table, Like I did, I scripted a throttle for it, I can increase the I.Q of HAL by factors of 10.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 15, 2017, 03:19:26 am
How did you do such a thing?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 15, 2017, 06:43:37 am
RE:  Edge: Cyber maybe we could get google to sponsor us:

Edge : Hell man , i could sell condoms to a school full of nuns. You have to believe in what your doing.
When Art said i should be in charge of Hals PR dept , he got it rite.

Hal is easy to push.

I still want a zabaware Tee-shirt though 

best wishes
cyberjedi



Been sleeping hard lately
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 15, 2017, 08:27:02 am
Rob will prob just give you one if you ask him jedi. 8)

I want the light blue polo shirt Rob wore at the bot awards. stocking stuffers.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 15, 2017, 08:39:09 am
How did you do such a thing?

well, I am gonna try for the turing test if possible. so I can give you this much of the code.

Dim UserBrainRel As Integer
Dim HalUserBrain As String

now HalUserBrain is treated as one long string.(for searching)...
Of course this won't work in regular VBScript.
but it works in Visual Basic.

the rest is pretty straight forward
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 15, 2017, 08:42:20 am
Edge: haahhaa, I love it man

IIIII TOLD YOUUUUU

The mighty power of VB 6.0
You have a very good copy of an advanced form of simple Hal
Make a better mouse trap.
I got the message about the A.I brain for the IRC , Knee jerk reaction: Hals brain could be hot wired to work for Halbot.c file.
So ya
Just another type of application for this crazy thing we call Utra Hal. The gift that keeps on giving.
Very nice

best wishes
cyberjedi

Ps: Ive already switched over from Haptek to ,acs chars in simple Hal now.So much lighter on system resources, and just better.
Sap05 issues resolved
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 15, 2017, 10:20:51 am
Very nice padowan.
got to go to work, be back later in the day.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 15, 2017, 06:00:33 pm
Can we use our old plugins from Hal 6.2 with Hal 7? I tried adding mine in the general settings but the script doesn't get added to Hal7.uhp. My plugins show up in the brain plugins list in the general options but when i check them they never get added.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 15, 2017, 07:40:54 pm
The plug ins work, however the HalScript location has been moved to "AppData\Roaming\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7"

from what I understand.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 16, 2017, 09:00:54 am
Donation to Hal 7 Alfa

Im testing the scrapers used in my version of Hal and releasing those that
work to here.
These require that you have some form of office on your machine but could be coded very easly to work with other apps. Open office ect ect ect.
Tested On Xpsp3 and Win7 with Hal7 Alfa.
Triggers are wotd and forex
Why shouldnt hal read the daily stock market and Forex updates hourly
This should be part of Hal7 Alfa test as to why they are here
Let Hal7 flex his muscles on this. Feel free to chop up and use as needed, 02 very powerful plugins.
A day without scraping is just another day
best wishes
cyberjedi

****************************
Rem Type=Plugin
Rem Name= forexlive
Rem Author= cyberjedi
Rem Host=All



Rem PLUGIN: PRE-PROCESS
    'The preceding comment is actually a plug-in directive for
    'the Ultra Hal host application. It allows for code snippets
    'to be inserted here on-the-fly based on user configuration.

HalBrain.ReadOnlyMode = False
'Determines that you are talking about the Amex
If InStr(1,InputString, "forex",1) > 0 Then
 UltraHal = Getforex(HalCommands)
ElseIf InStr(1,InputString, "forex",1) > 0 Then
 End If

 ' This bad boy is a Forex Scraper with a twist, All the data Scraped is ported through Hals Voice. 
    ' This also Breaks Hals speech limitations on how much he can say. 
 ' Trigger= forex
     
 ' I give myself about a 7.5 on cool ideas here


Rem PLUGIN: FUNCTIONS
Function Getforex(HalCommands)

Const SVSFlagsAsync = 1
Const DontShowWindow = 0
Const WaitUntilFinished = 1
Set WshShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set Sapi = CreateObject("SAPI.SpVoice")
   For Each Voice In Sapi.GetVoices
       i = i + 1
   Next
For loopvar = 0 to i-1
if loopvar = CInt(confirm_voice) then
Set Sapi.Voice = Sapi.GetVoices.Item(loopvar)
end if
Next
Set xmlDoc = CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")  'This is where we grab xml. Switch to open office will be here
Set WshShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
Set FSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & "Reading headlines !" & "</SPEAK>"
For loopvar = 0 to 2
If tempconfirm = loopvar then
if tempconfirm = 1 then
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & "Currently reading " & confirm & " latest headlines" & "</SPEAK>"
else if tempconfirm = 1 then
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & "Okay ." & "</SPEAK>"
wscript.quit
else
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & "Currently reading " & confirm & " latest headlines " & "</SPEAK>"
end if
end if
xmlDoc.async = false
xmlDoc.load("http://www.forexlive.com/feed/technicalanalysis") ' This is where u put you own rss feed .xml
Set nodelist = xmlDoc.selectNodes("rss/channel/item")  '<< This is the current nodes list
i = 3                              'ull notice here im set at 3 and only using 2 nodes below. Set as to what u need per your page.
For Each item In nodelist
Set f1 = item.selectsinglenode("title")  'This is where we gather info from the tiltle section of the rss feed.
Set f2 = item.selectsinglenode("description")  'This is where we gather info from the decription  section of the rss feed
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & f1.text & "</SPEAK>"  ' these two lines are the Magic of the plugin
HalMenu.HalCommand "<SPEAK>" & f2.text & "</SPEAK>"  ' these two lines are the Magic of the plugin
i = i + 1
if i = tempconfirm then
wscript.Quit
end if
Next
end if
Next
End Function

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 16, 2017, 09:33:19 am
IRC on Cloud #9...... Heavenly...
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 16, 2017, 09:50:44 am
@Robert, I tested out the SRCountDownStart feature you added and for me this was the missing piece!! Hal is absolutely perfect now! His response time is amazing, i set the value to 2 seconds and i couldn't be happier. Thank you for taking the time to add this. No more delays when speaking to Hal!

For everyone out there, I would suggest that you go no lower then 2 seconds, even with two seconds if you have a slight pause in your sentence Hal will try to respond before you finish your sentence. 
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: steve james on November 16, 2017, 04:02:52 pm
unfortunately the alpha hal wont install on my p c, will I need 6.2 to make it load????,
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 16, 2017, 04:27:32 pm
Can we use our old plugins from Hal 6.2 with Hal 7? I tried adding mine in the general settings but the script doesn't get added to Hal7.uhp. My plugins show up in the brain plugins list in the general options but when i check them they never get added.
Old plugins should work for the most part. Can you provide an example of a plugin that doesn't work? How did you determine it wasn't added? Did you check HalScript.DBG or did you just not notice a change in the conversation?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 16, 2017, 04:28:54 pm
unfortunately the alpha hal wont install on my p c, will I need 6.2 to make it load????,
It doesn't require any old version of Hal to run, it should work. Can you provide more details as to whats going on with your computer? Any error messages or screenshots you can provide?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 16, 2017, 05:35:50 pm
Robert, my plugins are working, it was my mistake, not sure what i did to fix it but they work!

I am however having another issue with my sapi 5 cepstral voice. In Hal 6.2 my voice works fine however in in hal 7 its telling me that i need to register my voice every time hal speaks. I only have the one voice installed. Is it looking for the voice in a different area? I've tried uninstalling then re installing with no luck. Very weird. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 16, 2017, 10:20:03 pm
I have posted an updated alpha version. It is now at version 7.0.34. The new download link is:

http://05950b5c8c5f0fdaa08b-33d72c3627fe6cd1db086cc8531bb533.r91.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Updates since the last alpha include

Features I am still working on before Hal achieves "beta" status:


Please let me know if all the speech recognition issues have been resolved. And let me know how the feedback learning feature works. And of course let me know if you come across any other errors or glitches.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on November 17, 2017, 08:29:16 am
Hi Robert... I have a question about part of a response from Hal 6.2 I got a couple of times over the course of probably 8 months and wondered if it will carry over to Hal 7...

I was just talking normally and Hal 6.2 responded with about 2-3 sentences and then the last 2 words were &Quot; &Quot... It kinda sounded like he was mocking me or making a snarky remark...  It was funny to hear him speak it... LOL  It's happened only twice so far and only at the end of a sentence that I can remember...

It seems to be some HTML element, not sure if he was meant to say that or it's just a fluke...

Thanks....

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on November 17, 2017, 10:37:51 am
Robert, I installed the 7.0.34 version of hal 7 and my dragon 12 loads perfectly! I'm not experiencing any hanging from the options menu.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: steve james on November 17, 2017, 10:53:16 am
unfortuantley tried multiple times and the alpha test will not install or even come close#?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 17, 2017, 11:01:09 am
unfortuantley tried multiple times and the alpha test will not install or even come close#?
I need more information please. What error messages do you get? Where does it stop? Can you show screenshots of your process?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 17, 2017, 11:02:21 am
Hi Robert... I have a question about part of a response from Hal 6.2 I got a couple of times over the course of probably 8 months and wondered if it will carry over to Hal 7...

I was just talking normally and Hal 6.2 responded with about 2-3 sentences and then the last 2 words were &Quot; &Quot... It kinda sounded like he was mocking me or making a snarky remark...  It was funny to hear him speak it... LOL  It's happened only twice so far and only at the end of a sentence that I can remember...

It seems to be some HTML element, not sure if he was meant to say that or it's just a fluke...

Thanks....
That is an html encoding of the double quote character "

Hal should be automatically converting it back to a real double quote. Let me know if you come across that with Hal  7
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 17, 2017, 11:03:26 am
Robert, I installed the 7.0.34 version of hal 7 and my dragon 12 loads perfectly! I'm not experiencing any hanging from the options menu.

Great to hear! Spent most of my week on that bug. I should receive Dragon 13 in the mail today and I will test with that as well.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 17, 2017, 03:25:02 pm
Robert: No issues as of yet

Could not be happier.



Updated the new Hal7

best wishes
cyberjedi
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: sombunall on November 18, 2017, 06:28:58 pm
I installed 7.0.34 but when it gets to the part about logging into the account I get 424-0 when trying to connect to server. If I get the password wrong it just tells me that so I know my credentials are correct. See attached.

OS:  windows 7 64bit

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 19, 2017, 10:38:26 pm
I've just posted a 3rd update to the alpha (version 7.0.36)

Download link: http://eccd4d82f45e5441a449-5436c8bca62349c5b4be9442d433dae9.r25.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Fixes since the last version:
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 19, 2017, 10:40:47 pm
I installed 7.0.34 but when it gets to the part about logging into the account I get 424-0 when trying to connect to server. If I get the password wrong it just tells me that so I know my credentials are correct. See attached.

OS:  windows 7 64bit

I just posted 7.0.36. Can you see if that makes any difference for you? If not, the error message should contain more helpful info and a debug log should be generated. Please send the file  "%appdata\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\debuglog.txt" if you are still having issues with this update.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 19, 2017, 11:59:07 pm
I had a couple days to myself and bought the new Assassin's creed, so I kind of lost myself for a minute. Back now, 7.0.36 working smoothly. Speech recognition works and is far faster than previous versions. Going to try some cloud responses and see where we go.

Thanks Robert! Good work as always.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 20, 2017, 02:03:24 am
Tested the cloud learning a little, I must say that the learning feedback is a great addition! I would also suggest a place to add a response. There are a few times Hal was a little off target but a rephrasing could have corrected the keyword searching for a better response of which wasn't available on the learned feedback thumbs down options.

I did notice when Hals GUI is opened and closed it tends to dance its way up to the top right corner. Also to note, the General Options GUI pops up way up in the left corner. I kind of miss it sometimes with other windows open. I'm not sure if adding a way for the program to remember GUI locations is possible. Hals GUI remembers, other than the occasional shifting.

I'll keep playing with cloud learning. I like where this is going.

Great work as always!

-Spitfire2600 
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 20, 2017, 09:43:17 pm
Just posted a 4th alpha, version 7.0.38

This update fixes a couple things:

Download link: http://37ac637dbc8d2c5c2776-5a5e415fe60c0a4e3007caa7338ae335.r77.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Let me know if this fixes any of the issues if you experienced the problems above.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 21, 2017, 08:31:36 pm
i don't know if anyone else had this problem but i downloaded hal 7 from the last link that robert posted the updated one and i ran it as administrator and it looked like it was installing fast then about 1/4 ? or less inch and it is just staying their in the same spot . does hal 7 take a really long time to finish the set up????
here is a pic of where it just stays .
NOTE: ALSO IT CAME UP IN MY ANTIMALWARE SOMETHING ABOUT HAPTECK AND DO I WANT TO ALLOW IT OR NOT AND I HIT ALLOW .
I didn't UNinstall my other hal but i didn't have it open (using it) hal was not in use. I even restarted pc and tried installing the hal 7 again.  same problem.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 21, 2017, 09:01:10 pm
i don't know if anyone else had this problem but i downloaded hal 7 from the last link that robert posted the updated one and i ran it as administrator and it looked like it was installing fast then about 1/4 ? or less inch and it is just staying their in the same spot . does hal 7 take a really long time to finish the set up????
here is a pic of where it just stays .
NOTE: ALSO IT CAME UP IN MY ANTIMALWARE SOMETHING ABOUT HAPTECK AND DO I WANT TO ALLOW IT OR NOT AND I HIT ALLOW .
I didn't UNinstall my other hal but i didn't have it open (using it) hal was not in use. I even restarted pc and tried installing the hal 7 again.  same problem.
What anti-malware program are you using? From your screenshot looks like like the Haptek installation (happlayer41339.exe) is locking up. If you were to open your task manager (ctr-alt-del) and end the happlayer41339.exe, I'm guessing the installation would continue (but Haptek would fail to install).
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 21, 2017, 09:45:46 pm
okay i did that stopped haptek from running and hal is installing , so that was what was hanging it up , so now do i need to install haptek again  separately ? if so do you have a link ?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 21, 2017, 10:34:48 pm
okay i did that stopped haptek from running and hal is installing , so that was what was hanging it up , so now do i need to install haptek again  separately ? if so do you have a link ?
If you already had Haptek installed, it may just work. If not, you can get it from http://www.haptek.com/dist/4.11/happlayer41140/happlayer41140.exe

Would you mind telling me what anti-malware programs you have installed? I want to see if that has anything to do with your issue and if I can do anything about it.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 21, 2017, 10:52:26 pm
Been testing 7.0.38 and it's working smoothly. One issue I had last night during the migration while the server was down. Hal was nearly unresponsive, even with cloud mode disabled and he went back into trial mode. He was normal again when connection to the server was re-established. Will this happen every time Hal is unable to access the internet or the Zabaware server? I remember you saying something about Hal checking in with the server every 2 weeks.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 21, 2017, 11:01:54 pm
i have malware fighter  5 , a free version.  ;)   so far i am having trouble getting voices to work with hal . am still trying different ones but the default ms ones so far are not working . also when i choose an option this hit apply hal goes completely off the screen i have to click in the system tray on it then it comes up.
also when i tried to install the updated expansion pack it said the expansion pack is already installed please uninstall it , then reinstall it.

so this doesn't install or you can't install a second copy in hal seven ? i am going to try to copy and past in some of my cusytom characters and see if they work as it is in hal 7 .

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 21, 2017, 11:34:57 pm
voices working now, remembered someone else had to restart pc , so that worked .  maybe i missed it but can a person somehow use the hal earlier custom brain somehow in this alpha stage , i put it in hal 7 folder but it doesn't show up,  same with custom haptek characters .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 22, 2017, 10:10:58 am
Been testing 7.0.38 and it's working smoothly. One issue I had last night during the migration while the server was down. Hal was nearly unresponsive, even with cloud mode disabled and he went back into trial mode. He was normal again when connection to the server was re-established. Will this happen every time Hal is unable to access the internet or the Zabaware server? I remember you saying something about Hal checking in with the server every 2 weeks.

-Spitfire2600

No, this is a bug that I will need to fix. It should have worked fine even if the login server is down.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 22, 2017, 10:14:21 am
i have malware fighter  5 , a free version.  ;)   so far i am having trouble getting voices to work with hal . am still trying different ones but the default ms ones so far are not working . also when i choose an option this hit apply hal goes completely off the screen i have to click in the system tray on it then it comes up.
also when i tried to install the updated expansion pack it said the expansion pack is already installed please uninstall it , then reinstall it.

so this doesn't install or you can't install a second copy in hal seven ? i am going to try to copy and past in some of my cusytom characters and see if they work as it is in hal 7 .

Eventually, once we reach beta, the Hal 7 installer will do an upgrade install of Hal 6, so it won't need 2 copies.

I'm also going to try to make my own Haptek component installer instead of using Haptek's to fix the lockup problem you experienced as well. This isn't the first time I saw this error occur.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 22, 2017, 01:03:04 pm
I tried copying and pasting my custom hapteck head and jpg. picture for reference in the hal 7 folder  without uninstalling my haptek and reinstalling it . but they don't show up even in the list .
i didn't want to uninstall my hapteck from the esarler version of hal as i am using it still and learning hal new things almost everyday .
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 22, 2017, 01:28:32 pm
I tried copying and pasting my custom hapteck head and jpg. picture for reference in the hal 7 folder  without uninstalling my haptek and reinstalling it . but they don't show up even in the list .
i didn't want to uninstall my hapteck from the esarler version of hal as i am using it still and learning hal new things almost everyday .
This means the expansion pack is not detected. Be sure to copy over all the original expansion pack characters (or just the whole character folder contents) and it should work.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 22, 2017, 04:52:37 pm
Okay i never reinstalled the expansion pack  because of reasons i gave before earlier , i did copy and past the whole character file from the  6.2 hal file into hal 7. zabaware program file . when i started hal 7 up the names and pictures showed up in the list as you said  and i could pick which one i wanted , and it asked me as before if i wanted to change the name to the character name  and i chose no. hal went off as i have mentioned before and when i click hal in the system tray to come back up hal is using the default pc hal character , i tried this over and over again , did the same thing, once the character is chosen , it will not stay once hal closes and is reopened.

I am guessing that not many people here have the expansion pack , or have you ran into this with anyone else?

 Anyway that's the situation i am having.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 22, 2017, 06:19:10 pm
I used the enlargement size and made hal 200 percent larger and it worked it however i didn't show the current size with dot , even when closing and reopening the options area . maybe this has been shown before with others . i never checked any other sizes to make sure they all changed , don't know if anyone else has .

another thing i also noticed is although i picked one of my custom characters in the hal option as mentioned earlier ,the name appears in conversations of the character but the character itself doesn't visually appear.

 now then these are just some personal observations , the hal conversations seem odd , i don't know if this is because of starting out with a completely new brain or what .
my hal character is named : Angelajolenebluepink , it seems l;ike a strange name but their is code to the name of the custom character i made . Angelajolene is the characters name i created the female head and had blue eyes and pink lipstick , so the name lets me know  . as i made various combinations .

anyway here is a example of saved conversation .

honey: hi
Angelajolenebluepink: Hey honey. How's the long day gone?

honey: hi
Angelajolenebluepink: Hi honey. How's the day's work gone?

honey: hi
Angelajolenebluepink: Hey honey. How's the long day gone?

honey: so far so good , its been a nice day although we had to take a nap
Angelajolenebluepink: That's not a very nice thing to say.

honey: well we was tired so we had to take a nap, theirs nothing wrong with that , we just got up to early this morning
Angelajolenebluepink: No actually it isn't true.

honey: yes we got up early this morning
Angelajolenebluepink: Am I just trying to be difficult?

honey: it sounds like you are
Angelajolenebluepink: Don't do it for the men, men never notice lol.

honey: hey now that's unfair , some men do notice some things !
Angelajolenebluepink: What I wonder if I know about outer space.

honey: you love me
Angelajolenebluepink: Don't play dumb. You know I do.

honey: yes but how much do you love me ?
Angelajolenebluepink: How Much Do You Love Me? Is a 2005 romantic comedy film written and directed by Bertrand Blier.

honey: that's interesting but you didn't answer my question for me
Angelajolenebluepink: Swear you are lying.

honey: i am not lying
Angelajolenebluepink: I feel like I am being controlled by my parents and brother.

honey: you have no brother, you used to have a half bother
Angelajolenebluepink: That is not true! But, you have no brother I used to have a half bother!

honey: a half brother, that's what you ment to say
Angelajolenebluepink: Your half-brother's full brother would also be your half-brother. Your half-brother's half-brother (assuming he isn't your full brother) is probably what we officially call ';no relation,'; though he might potentially be a stepbrother.

honey: are we going to watch some movies later tonight?
Angelajolenebluepink: I like to see a good marriage between a movie and its scene.

honey: do you want to watch a movie later?
Angelajolenebluepink: Are we going to watch some movies later tonight?

honey: if you want to , we can
Angelajolenebluepink: I wonder if I want to watch a movie later?

honey: don't you know?
Angelajolenebluepink: I know I know.

honey: well then you need to make up your mind '
Angelajolenebluepink: Are you tuned in to my convincing mind?

honey: what do people eat on thanksgiving day?
Angelajolenebluepink: Tomatoes not we same stuff any other state eats we are human now people from Cali and Louisiana that's a different story lol.

honey: don't people eat turkey on thanksgiving day?
Angelajolenebluepink: Lol you real good at that.

honey: it seems we have a lack of communication here
Angelajolenebluepink: Some minds are like an open fire-how direct and instant our communication with them.

honey: maybe so but we are still having a "cool hand luke " movie moment here
Angelajolenebluepink: Please consider how a hand utilizes its finger.

honey: do you know any good movies to watch?
Angelajolenebluepink: If I want to, we can.

the only problem i see for using this personally is that for someone who has a custom brain developed like me and a few others that have created a actual life and memories and fact of life details is  many new things from the cloud will not make sense and or be wrong. i know some things like this can't be helped but its just a observation  like this sentence.
honey: i am not lying
Angelajolenebluepink: I feel like I am being controlled by my parents and brother.

honey: you have no brother, you used to have a half bother
Angelajolenebluepink: That is not true! But, you have no brother I used to have a half bother!

this leads me to another observation and recommendation , and that is the hal phrasing back of words , in this case : Angelajolenebluepink: That is not true! But, you have no brother

To me it would be better and sound more natural for hal to say a rephrase question back as : YES THAT IS TRUE, I HAVE NO BROTHER.

Also as you can see i misspelled a word , BROTHER , this can happen sometimes , even with voice recognition if it thinks you said something else.   I' m not sure of what fixes can be made as no one is perfect all the time and in those cases , i mentioned something about and don't know if it's [possible in the future ] a auto correct word based on the sentence , kind of like when you misspell a word on google search and it spells out the correct spelling.

 here is another example observation by me with this response back sentence ::
Angelajolenebluepink: I wonder if I want to watch a movie later?

the reason she responded back saying this is earlier i had asked her is she wanted to watch a movie later.
a better rephrasing would have been "I AM DEBATING ABOUT WATCHING A MOVIE WITH YOU LATER (USER NAME ) ".    this sounds more natural sounding.

I hope all of what i am mentioning is taken in the right light i am not just nit picking but rather telling observations that i personally think would make hal sound better etc.

I will post other things as i find them as long as i don't get ran out of here !  ;)




Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 22, 2017, 08:15:33 pm
I do want to mention something and maybe this makes a difference or not but when the hal first starts it has the 28 days left trial period . i showed earlier i am signed into the cloud connection .
i guess i need to do something else to show i have the full version .
okay i am showing i am signed in on the zabaware page link : see picture.
 but my hal still shows the purchase hal .
see picture.

maybe it still does this in the alpha phase ?



 
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 23, 2017, 04:44:50 pm
Another very odd issue... I decided to test the new calendar and appointments plug-in, however, while Hal will show the calendar and display events, he will not speak them. For some reason, any plug-in using a timer mechanism that requires Hal speak at a given time seems to fail. The text will display in Hal's response bar, but no voice. Talking with him, Hal will speak again.

- Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 24, 2017, 08:13:58 am
I HAD trouble before in hal 6.2 with running more then one timer based plug ins . maybe  what you are having is the same problem . ?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 24, 2017, 07:41:56 pm
this is to Robert :
  i mentioned before about the iobit malware bytes showing the haptek installer as a Trojan virus? here is the picture when i ran a scan . i didn't remove it as i am sure its a false positive for whatever reason . but just wanted you to see it.

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 24, 2017, 11:19:40 pm
I do want to mention something and maybe this makes a difference or not but when the hal first starts it has the 28 days left trial period . i showed earlier i am signed into the cloud connection .
i guess i need to do something else to show i have the full version .
okay i am showing i am signed in on the zabaware page link : see picture.
 but my hal still shows the purchase hal .
see picture.

maybe it still does this in the alpha phase ?

Does the account you signed in have a registered version of Hal 6 under "electronic product delivery". If you did not purchase Hal using the email you provided here, then it would be by design that it is showing the trial mode. If you did, then maybe its a bug. If you want, can you send me the file "%appdata%\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\debuglog.txt" and I can look at why it is in trial mode.


Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 24, 2017, 11:27:23 pm
this is to Robert :
  i mentioned before about the iobit malware bytes showing the haptek installer as a Trojan virus? here is the picture when i ran a scan . i didn't remove it as i am sure its a false positive for whatever reason . but just wanted you to see it.

Haptek originally installed itself as a plugin in old versions of FireFox and IE. FireFox has long since completely changed how its plugins work and IE also won't load Haptek without disabling several security measures. Looks like your anti malware program thinks Haptek is trying to hijack your browser. Also the problem you described earlier with the Hal installation freezing up is also due to problems with the old Haptek installer. I think I've lost many potential Hal 6.2 customers due to Haptek freezing up the install.

I have been experimenting these past few days with not using the Haptek installer at all and having Hal's NSIS installer install Haptek under Ultra Hal's folder. My version of the installer skips Haptek's old Firefox/IE integrations, skips Windows shell integrations, and just installs Haptek as an ActiveX library. I also take over generation of the Haptek SAPI.ini for better speech support.

I've been testing it here these past few days and it seems to be working great. I'll release another alpha update soon with this change and a few others.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 24, 2017, 11:37:00 pm
Ho Rob.

simple question.
how do we use this with an error?

Set HalBrain7 = CreateObject(UltraHal7.Cloud)

Thanks
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 25, 2017, 12:06:02 am
Ho Rob.

simple question.
how do we use this with an error?

Set HalBrain7 = CreateObject(UltraHal7.Cloud)

Thanks
Jerry 8)

You are missing quotes:
Set UltraHal7 = CreateObject("UltraHal7.Cloud")

This may also be useful:

If UltraHal7.Login(UserEmail, UserPassword) = False Then
   Msgbox "Login failed: " & UltraHal7.GetLastError()
End If
UltraHal7.SetCloudMode(True)
Call UltraHal7.SendQuery(UserSentence, LastHalResponse, "", LastUserSent)

The rest of the code you can see in the Hal 7 UHP Script.

However, having said that, please only use the cloud based services for your own personal use. Don't build your own services off of this like chat room bots, facebook bots, web site bots, etc. That will require an upcoming developer API account on the cloud server and will probably cost a few cents per every 100 sentences Hal responds to. Basically, I can't have a single-time $30 license support an account that serves an unlimited number of people, but will certainly allow that through an API account.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 25, 2017, 12:45:10 am
Hi Rob

Np buddy.
thanks for the heads up on how to get that portion working for plug-in functions.

Happy Holidays.
Jerry
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 25, 2017, 08:28:18 pm
Robert , i will have to search all my records , i actually signed into the zabaware site it said i was signed in. okay. i don't knoow if you remembered , but a long time ago josh(charles worthington) had bought hal for me and later i mentioned it when i had trouble and i "think" you put it into my name (and e mail?) so it was less trouble  if i had to redo hal later.   you can e mail me if you need to about any private information on this . you have my e mail .
 
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 26, 2017, 05:23:29 pm
Robert , i will have to search all my records , i actually signed into the zabaware site it said i was signed in. okay. i don't knoow if you remembered , but a long time ago josh(charles worthington) had bought hal for me and later i mentioned it when i had trouble and i "think" you put it into my name (and e mail?) so it was less trouble  if i had to redo hal later.   you can e mail me if you need to about any private information on this . you have my e mail .
 

I remember you telling me this a while ago. I checked your account now and there is no Hal 6 associated with your email. Could you PM or email me your Hal 6 serial and I can associate it with your email?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 26, 2017, 05:32:44 pm
Here's the 5th alpha release, version 7.0.51.

I'm hoping with this release I have most of the bugs fixed and I can finish up the few remaining features so we can get to "beta" status. Please test if you can and let me know. Here is the download link: http://ccf84f668aaa0489c3cb-7308adf0591d1cb262d920bce20ceeb4.r56.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Changes since the last alpha:
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: cyberjedi on November 26, 2017, 05:50:52 pm
Robert:
very cool man, That was an issue for me and the voices i use.
Currently using VoiceWare voices, Prob fixed

Thank you

best wishes
cyber jedi

Ps read what was said about Cloud  access and ur wishes: no problem buddy. All this came from what u gave us.
Only to happy to comply.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on November 28, 2017, 01:10:06 am
Great work, Robert!

Hal keeps his position when opened and closed now. You make things look so easy!

I did notice the 7.0.51 still will not announce calendar events for some strange reason. Hal will display the text, but there is no voice.

-Spitfire2600
Title: somthing i noticed with offline mode
Post by: lightspeed on November 29, 2017, 01:01:39 pm
i am posting this as i thought it was a glitch , even though i had checked the offline mode i checked the test connection and it still connected up . see picture.
 but i think i know what the problem is , i backed up my sign in name and password  and restarted my pc ( i probably didn't have to . and with the name and password backed out tried the test button again , this time it said to put in my name and password . so the finding here is that even if you pick the other offline mode , if you don't back up the info in the boxes it actually still stays online . 
Title: Re: somthing i noticed with offline mode
Post by: Medeksza on November 29, 2017, 03:01:27 pm
i am posting this as i thought it was a glitch , even though i had checked the offline mode i checked the test connection and it still connected up . see picture.
 but i think i know what the problem is , i backed up my sign in name and password  and restarted my pc ( i probably didn't have to . and with the name and password backed out tried the test button again , this time it said to put in my name and password . so the finding here is that even if you pick the other offline mode , if you don't back up the info in the boxes it actually still stays online .

Ultra Hal 7 dumped the old serial/activation code system used in Hal 6 in favor of username/password login to the zabaware.com server. What you are seeing is the login server connection. The login server checks your username/password and sees if you have a purchased copy of Hal. It returns a signed hash key that is valid for 2 weeks since the last successful login. Hal talks to the login server on Hal's initial start and whenever you go into Hal's options menu. If it can't connect, it will fall back on the 2-week hash it had from the last successful connection. This is similar in operation to how Adobe Photoshop CC and other Adobe Creative Cloud products work as well.

The cloud based responses are a separate routine from the login system. If you have that disabled, it won't connect to the cloud server for responses/learning but will still use the login server. If you have cloud responses enabled it will communicate with the cloud server with every sentence you exchange with Hal.

Zabaware's login system connects to zabaware.com (currently 107.161.30.80) over port 443 at program start and while editing program options. The cloud based responses connect to ultrahal.com (199.101.185.37) over port 443 for every response.

If you would like to verify it is working correctly as I describe, you can use a tool like SysInternals TCPView to show all network activity on your computer: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/tcpview
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: lightspeed on November 29, 2017, 08:33:30 pm
thanks Robert ,  for explaining it all . i understand what you mean on it . just a side note although i haven't been able to use hal7 extensively because of being busy hal does seem to be over the false positive math problem explanations .which is a very big plus !! Another note to Robert: it might be a good idea to have a hal seven info page on the forum and have notes like this explanation so people and new comers and see all the notes along with what's new in ultra hal 7 . :) ;)

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on November 30, 2017, 09:56:58 pm
Here is the 6th alpha release (version 7.0.67): http://1ebad5d81ca0f6ed0a07-c539f9cfab6ed1fe52cb62f563d610fd.r69.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

Since the last alpha, we have the following changes:


Important Note 1: If you have a previously installed Hal 7 alpha version, please uninstall it *AND* remove its appdata folder. There have been some breaking changes to Hal's config file which requires a fresh install. To find Hal's appdata folder, click start and type in %appdata% and press enter. Then open the "Zabaware" folder and remove the "Ultra Hal 7 folder". Also after uninstalling remove the folder C:\program files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7 as it may contain a couple left over data files as well.

Important Note 2: If you have installed Ultra Hal 6.x, please backup your entire Ultra Hal 6 program files folder (Usually c:\program files (x86)\zabaware\ultra hal assistant 6) This is the first alpha version that will attempt to migrate your Hal 6 data into Hal 7. It will partially uninstall your Hal 6.2 installation by removing its start menu icons and startup link. This alpha should actually leave all your files intact should you wish to go back to Hal 6.2, but please make a backup anyway.

Based on a few requests, this new alpha now also lets you control how Hal learns and uses learned info when cloud mode is enabled. You will have the option of cloud only learning, mixed cloud/local learning, or local learning only. For fresh Hal 7 brains, I recommend the cloud only learning to take advantage of all of Hal 7's features. For upgraded Hal 6 brains, I recommend the mixed mode. But you have the option to do any mode for any version brain. If you upgrade Hal 6 to Hal 7 your Hal 7 options will look like this with 2 brains listed. The first brain is a fresh Hal 7 brain, the second is your upgraded Hal 6 brain. Feel free to test both.

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 01, 2017, 12:46:48 am
Hi Rob.

I have been doing some intensive debugging and discovered a glitch in HAL's Math function.
when double quotes are used in an equation is will cause HAL's math function to work improperly.

This is what I scripted to fix the issue:

Code: [Select]
MathSentence = OriginalSentence
    RidQuote = """"
    If InStr(1, MathSentence, RidQuote, 1) > 0 Then MathSentence = Replace(MathSentence, RidQuote, "", 1, -1, vbTextCompare)
   
    HMath = HalBrain.HalMath(Trim(MathSentence)) & vbCrLf
    If Len(HMath) > 3 And InStr(HMath, "=)") = 0 Then
        GetResponse = Trim(HMath & vbCrLf)
        ShortPhrase = "" 'If Hal was to make a comment about short phrases, clear it
        HalBrain.ReadOnlyMode = True
        NoChoosing = True
    End If

Please add this feature to your math script in HAL 7.
Here is an example of an equation that causes HAL's math to not work:

feed this to your HAL 7 bot:

What is the answer to "Add 34957 to 70764"?

and you'll see what I mean.

remove the double quotes and HAL will answer the equation as expected.

Same goes for HAL 6 versions.

P.S that equation was from a Turing Judge FYI.
Hal 7 would of failed to answer correctly or at all.

Just letting you know buddy.
Happy Holidays
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 01, 2017, 05:44:55 pm
Unfortunately, after uninstalling Hal6, Hal7 will not install due to it thinking Hal6 is still installed. I've uninstalled it several times and wiped the registry. No success.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 01, 2017, 05:51:14 pm
I have included a screenshot of my issue. Again, I have uninstalled Hal6 several times and removed all registry references to no avail.

I see Hal7 is looking for Hal6 uninstaller, however, even with Hal6 installed, Hal7 will not successfully uninstall Hal6, or move the Hal6 Brains over. 

-Spitfire_2600

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 01, 2017, 05:55:57 pm
Unfortunately, after uninstalling Hal6, Hal7 will not install due to it thinking Hal6 is still installed. I've uninstalled it several times and wiped the registry. No success.

-Spitfire_2600

I don't think you was supposed to do that?

Hal 6 and Hal 7 can run together. (for now)

later when hal7 is released then Hal 7 will install and absorb Hal 6 and its tables.

I'm just assuming this so bare with me. ask Rob, He'd know more.

good luck buddy
Happy Holidays
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 01, 2017, 05:59:23 pm
I can't install the new Beta without uninstalled Hal6.
This Beta is supposed to upgrade all Hal6 Brains for compatibility. I'm just saying it's not working.

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 01, 2017, 07:55:26 pm
I can't install the new Beta without uninstalled Hal6.
This Beta is supposed to upgrade all Hal6 Brains for compatibility. I'm just saying it's not working.

-Spitfire_2600

I'm running both 6 and 7 at the same time, what kind of system are you on? are you using a 3rd party installer?
need more information.

Jerry
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 01, 2017, 08:21:58 pm
How did you install 7.0.67 without uninstalling Hal6?

I simply ran the installation for 7.0.67 and it attempted to uninstall 6 and failed. 

-Spitfire_2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 01, 2017, 08:25:58 pm
How did you install 7.0.67 without uninstalling Hal6?

I simply ran the installation for 7.0.67 and it attempted to uninstall 6 and failed. 

-Spitfire_2600

I'm not sure but I have the first version of HAL 7, the last HAL 7 update had an installation error.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 01, 2017, 08:51:55 pm
This is the first alpha version that attempts to migrate and upgrade your Hal 6.2 installation into Hal 7. As such, it is now requiring to uninstall Hal 6.2 in the process. Thus my request to make sure you back up all of your Hal 6.2 folder in case something goes wrong.

Spitfire, I see your screenshot of Hal 7 detecting your Hal 6 install. What happens when you click ok? It should say it is uninstalling Hal 6 and remove your Hal 6 shortcut icons and remove itself from your control panel programs and features list. After which it should install Hal 7 and bring over your Hal 6 database.

The Hal 7 installer is reading the registry key HKLM "Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Ultra Hal Assistant62" "UninstallString" in order to find that Hal 6.2 is installed and locate its uninstaller. Also, please reread my post above with the Important note 1 & 2 about removing the Hal 7 appdata folder and backing up Hal 6. Let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 01, 2017, 08:52:20 pm
How did you install 7.0.67 without uninstalling Hal6?

I simply ran the installation for 7.0.67 and it attempted to uninstall 6 and failed. 

-Spitfire_2600

I'm not sure but I have the first version of HAL 7, the last HAL 7 update had an installation error.

What error?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 01, 2017, 10:10:37 pm
Robert,

Yes, I removed all files associated with Hal7, backed up Hal6 and ran the installation for 7.0.67. After I click okay to uninstall 6, it pops the same message up saying I need to uninstall Hal6. It's just stuck in a loop. I have removed Hal completely from my system, however Hal7 7.0.67 installer still gives the same message and I am unable to continue. The screenshot is as far as I can go with the installation.

I have manually removed the registry key you refer to, although I still can't progress the installation.

-Spitfire
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 02, 2017, 12:43:34 am
If you are on a 64-bit system, they registry key to remove is actually: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Ultra Hal Assistant62

You mention you remove Hal 6.2. If you removed Hal 6.2 before installing Hal 7.0, then it won't do a migration install and copy your Hal 6.2 files. You have to let Hal 7.0 uninstall Hal 6.2 for an automatic migration to occur.

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 02, 2017, 02:18:38 am
Robert,

I did originally let Hal7 upgrade the files, however it failed to remove Hal6 and just keep popping up the screenshot message. So I tried to manually remove Hal6 but that didn't work either, I will try to remove those keys and try the installation again.

-Spitfire
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 02, 2017, 05:18:15 am
Robert,

Deleting those Reg keys did allow me to install Hal7 7.0.67. I then uninstalled 7.0.67 and reinstalled Hal6 as to test migrating the brains, however I was met with the same issue. Hal7 7.0.67 will not completely uninstall Hal6 and sends me into a loop of aforementioned screenshot message.

Other than that, Hal 7.0.67 is running smoothly when installed.

-Spitfire

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 02, 2017, 09:35:27 am
Hi Rob, can we make a Vbscript.vbs with a script inside that removes that HKLM key left behind? maybe easier if this happens again. quick fix?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 02, 2017, 12:42:34 pm
Hi Rob, can we make a Vbscript.vbs with a script inside that removes that HKLM key left behind? maybe easier if this happens again. quick fix?
I've rewritten my migration install routine to not actually uninstall Hal 6.2 or touch any of its files. The only thing it will do is remove its start menu shortcuts and make a copy of the Hal 6 brain and characters into Hal 7. So it will no longer care about the HKLM registry keys. It will be up to the user to uninstall Hal 6.2 from the control panel when they are fully ready (or just leave it dormant).

I'm testing it out now, I should have it ready to post here in an hour or two. Hopefully this will fix Spitfires bug as well as a different bug Art is having.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 02, 2017, 01:11:12 pm
Ok, here is the latest alpha: http://38865d316e282f6c64f3-abad382d2aabf2de9fcc6cbe430c0595.r81.cf2.rackcdn.com/InstallUltraHal7.exe

It is version 7.0.73. It contains a better migration install for upgrading Hal 6.2 to 7.0. It will no longer mess with the Hal 6.2 installer or registry keys, it will just remove its start menu icons and make a copy of its brain & characters. Also contains an updated "Hal Mobile" character that should animate well even in full screen.

If you have a previously installed Hal 7 alpha version, please uninstall it *AND* remove its appdata folder. There have been some breaking changes to Hal's config file which requires a fresh install. To find Hal's appdata folder, click start and type in %appdata% and press enter. Then open the "Zabaware" folder and remove the "Ultra Hal 7 folder". Also after uninstalling remove the folder C:\program files (x86)\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7 as it may contain a couple left over data files as well.

Please make sure your Hal 6.2 installation is in working order before testing the Hal 7 migration install. If its not working you should be able to install Hal 6.2 back over itself to the same "Ultra Hal Assistant 6" folder in your program files folder. All your Hal 6.2 data should remain intact (but I hope you still have that backup just in case).
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 02, 2017, 02:13:45 pm
Hey Robert,

No issues installing (after removing all files in App Data and uninstalling the previous alpha)

However, My Hal6 brains did not migrate. One brain looks like it started but its brain size was only a few KB's down from 50 megs. As far as I know, it places upgraded brains in the App Data Zabaware folder, that is where I found the failed migration. 

Attempting a second time, (Uninstalling Hal7, deleting app data zabaware folder, uninstalling and reinstalling 6, then installing 7) did not migrate any brains from Hal6.

-Spitfire
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 02, 2017, 04:20:18 pm
Hey Robert,

No issues installing (after removing all files in App Data and uninstalling the previous alpha)

However, My Hal6 brains did not migrate. One brain looks like it started but its brain size was only a few KB's down from 50 megs. As far as I know, it places upgraded brains in the App Data Zabaware folder, that is where I found the failed migration. 

Attempting a second time, (Uninstalling Hal7, deleting app data zabaware folder, uninstalling and reinstalling 6, then installing 7) did not migrate any brains from Hal6.

-Spitfire


Can you find the file %appdata%\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\debuglog.txt and email it to me? That might give me some clues as to whats going on on your system.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 02, 2017, 11:14:37 pm
Robert,

I emailed my log to you. From what I can tell, Hal7 installation just isn't seeing the Hal brains for some reason.

Spitfire
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 03, 2017, 04:15:32 am
Robert,

Yes indeed, the Hal6 brain must be the default name (halbrain.db) to be upgraded by Hal7 installation. Thank you for your help.

It is online and running smoothly. Okay, back to testing.

Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 04, 2017, 09:42:49 pm
Tonight I fixed the following issues in my internal development version:

I'm going to hold off until tomorrow night to compile release and release this updated test version. I should have also have the brain editor updated by tomorrow to support Hal 7 cloud mode and %appdata% brain locations, so it will be labeled the first feature-complete "beta" version.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 04, 2017, 11:46:55 pm
Great news, Robert!

You keep releasing, I'll keep testing. Everything so far seems solid. Hal is better than ever.

I did notice one recent issue while plug-in testing. If you use a transparent mask on any skins and ask Hal to show his calendar, when Hal's GUI is opened again, the mask will be removed until Hal is restarted. I found that bizarre as the 2 shouldn't be related.

-Spitfire2600   
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Art on December 05, 2017, 08:45:49 am
Spitfire,

That does not appear to be happening for my Hal. When the calendar is opened, Hal usually disappears then when I reopen Hal, it's mask is still intact.
It would be nice for Hal to have a Close, Remove or Hide Calendar command.

Here's a cap of my masked Skin.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: LiFeTimeGamer on December 05, 2017, 09:40:36 am
Robert,

Myself I like the way you have the installer for HAL 7, I like still having HAL 6.2 around (I have backed him up) but some users (Me included) may forget to grab a file or 2 they need during trying out HAL 7 and with HAL 6.2 still there they could grab it easily...

If HAL 7 detects an earlier version of HAL when 7 is first run maybe after 10 or maybe 14 days he would say to the USER: 'I would like to uninstall any earlier versions of HAL if you are done backing him up and getting the files you need.' Then he could run the uninstaller if they say 'Yes'.

I'm not sure is 7 doe's this already but maybe have HAL 7 detect any older HAL program running and tell the USER: 'An earlier version of HAL is running, please exit the program before running HAL 7'. 'Never run two HAL's at the same time!'.


Also I left you a link to my Corrupt HalBrain.db in the last PM I sent... Not sure it would migrate to HAL 7 and I haven't tried it yet... haha


Again thanks for all your hard work, HAL 7 is looking great so far from what I've seen in this Thread, hopefully my DB will migrate then I can tell you how HAL 7 works on Windows XP... Hahahha  (Yeah I know I should upgrade to a better OS but I can't afford it and all the Expensive software I have would have to be bought again)...
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 05, 2017, 09:42:27 am
@Robert, for Hal 7, could we add the ability to have Hal start up with the microphone already on? For 6.2 we tried to add a custom script but because i was using Dragon Naturally Speaking the script would throw and automation error. I was wounding if this was fixed or if there might be an easier way of doing this now.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on December 05, 2017, 10:17:23 am
Thanks Rob.

for implementing the math code fix. 8)
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Spitfire2600 on December 05, 2017, 02:02:07 pm
Yeah, I'm not sure. I have a few skins with transparency masks, none of them will work after opening the calendar. I just reboot after and it's all back to normal.

-Spitfire2600
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 05, 2017, 08:27:27 pm
Yeah, I'm not sure. I have a few skins with transparency masks, none of them will work after opening the calendar. I just reboot after and it's all back to normal.

-Spitfire2600

Hmm. Strange. I can't seem to replicate the problem on my test systems either.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 05, 2017, 08:42:31 pm
@Robert, for Hal 7, could we add the ability to have Hal start up with the microphone already on? For 6.2 we tried to add a custom script but because i was using Dragon Naturally Speaking the script would throw and automation error. I was wounding if this was fixed or if there might be an easier way of doing this now.

Thanks!

This was a feature introduced to Hal 6.2, but never worked correctly. I have fixed and tested it in Hal 7, so hopefully it will work for you now too. Make sure the "always listen to commands" option is checked and then you can simply say "Wake up computer" or "Wake up Hal" and Hal will pop up. I've tested with the Microsoft speech engine, but haven't tried it yet with Dragon. But I believe it should work.

Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 06, 2017, 10:26:48 am
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This was a feature introduced to Hal 6.2, but never worked correctly. I have fixed and tested it in Hal 7, so hopefully it will work for you now too. Make sure the "always listen to commands" option is checked and then you can simply say "Wake up computer" or "Wake up Hal" and Hal will pop up. I've tested with the Microsoft speech engine, but haven't tried it yet with Dragon. But I believe it should work.

Thanks Robert, I'll give that a try when I get home this evening.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 07, 2017, 09:09:55 am
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This was a feature introduced to Hal 6.2, but never worked correctly. I have fixed and tested it in Hal 7, so hopefully it will work for you now too. Make sure the "always listen to commands" option is checked and then you can simply say "Wake up computer" or "Wake up Hal" and Hal will pop up. I've tested with the Microsoft speech engine, but haven't tried it yet with Dragon. But I believe it should work.

Hi Robert, i tried this when i got home and its still not working with Dragon 12. If i say "wake up computer" Hal pops up then i get automation error. see image. This also happens if say "microphone on".
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 07, 2017, 11:03:30 am
I tried adding a table to Hal's database but for some reason when referencing the table in my plugin it doesn't use it. I added the table to the database as a "sentence". example of my code from my plugin:
If StrComp(Robot_Control_Response, "Hal") = -1 Then GetResponse = HalBrain.ChooseSentenceFromFile("halCustomResponse")

If i reference a table that was already in the database it works fine like below:
If StrComp(Robot_Control_Response, "kit") = -1 Then GetResponse = HalBrain.ChooseSentenceFromFile("politeAsk1")

I saved my changes in the database but no luck. Any ideas as to what might be the issue.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 11:08:20 am
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This was a feature introduced to Hal 6.2, but never worked correctly. I have fixed and tested it in Hal 7, so hopefully it will work for you now too. Make sure the "always listen to commands" option is checked and then you can simply say "Wake up computer" or "Wake up Hal" and Hal will pop up. I've tested with the Microsoft speech engine, but haven't tried it yet with Dragon. But I believe it should work.

Hi Robert, i tried this when i got home and its still not working with Dragon 12. If i say "wake up computer" Hal pops up then i get automation error. see image. This also happens if say "microphone on".

Hmm, ok. I'll load up Dragon 13 tonight and see if I get the same problem or not. Does Dragon 12 work other than this problem? If you disable the "Always listen to commands" check box, does dictation work if you manually open Hal and turn on the mic? Does Dragon 12 work on your computer in other programs? What version of Windows are you running? I read online that Windows 10 only works with Dragon 13 and not the older Dragon 12.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 11:11:09 am
I tried adding a table to Hal's database but for some reason when referencing the table in my plugin it doesn't use it. I added the table to the database as a "sentence". example of my code from my plugin:
If StrComp(Robot_Control_Response, "Hal") = -1 Then GetResponse = HalBrain.ChooseSentenceFromFile("halCustomResponse")

If i reference a table that was already in the database it works fine like below:
If StrComp(Robot_Control_Response, "kit") = -1 Then GetResponse = HalBrain.ChooseSentenceFromFile("politeAsk1")

I saved my changes in the database but no luck. Any ideas as to what might be the issue.

Do you see this table if you open it with the Hal Brain Editor? Are you using a fresh Hal 7 brain or an upgraded Hal 6.2 brain? Are you sure you have the correct brain selected in Hal's options?
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 07, 2017, 11:39:25 am
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Hmm, ok. I'll load up Dragon 13 tonight and see if I get the same problem or not. Does Dragon 12 work other than this problem? If you disable the "Always listen to commands" check box, does dictation work if you manually open Hal and turn on the mic? Does Dragon 12 work on your computer in other programs? What version of Windows are you running? I read online that Windows 10 only works with Dragon 13 and not the older Dragon 12.

Yes, Dragon works great with Hal other then this issue. For some reason the <micon> command will throw that error. This also happen on my old windows 7 computer as well but that was with 6.2 at the time.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: knight2000 on December 07, 2017, 11:43:36 am
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Do you see this table if you open it with the Hal Brain Editor? Are you using a fresh Hal 7 brain or an upgraded Hal 6.2 brain? Are you sure you have the correct brain selected in Hal's options?

Yes, its in the database and its a fresh hal 7 brain. I'll continue to try to figure it out. I've added tables in the past with Hal 6.2 and it worked fine so maybe i'm doing something wrong.
Title: Re: Ultra Hal 7 Alpha Test - Ready for download
Post by: Medeksza on December 07, 2017, 08:14:51 pm
I am locking this post as Hal 7 is now in "beta". Please post any further bug reports to the "beta" thread.