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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: DemonRaven on December 24, 2014, 11:35:15 pm
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I have been wondering if you could some how program a Chat bot to be similar to a human brain. In its simplest terms our brains have a consciousness, a subconscious and emotions. So keeping those in mind would using a natural language processing for the consciousness the neural net for the subconscious and a basic subroutine for the emotions work? Is it possible to combine the different methods of programming?
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I think the best we can hope for at present is to attempt to emulate the human brain and emotional responses much as we have already done with Hal and other bot programs.
The article mentioned that if efforts are combined, within the next few years we might reach the thinking level of a mouse. A human is a few steps more up the list, depending on your list. ;D
Perhaps the best we can hope for are better AI's with some more "understanding" and emotions and stay on topic methods. (yeah...I'd settle for that!).
One thing about Hal that bothers me is that it does NOT stay on topic but rather offers another quip or sentence that has nothing to do with the topic. It does try to get the user to continue the discussion but adding sentences based on a word within the user's sentence is not always the best result for me.
Anyone else have comments on this? Same thing?
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considering that they know how to insert human dna into animal and have altered part of a mouses brain to be more human in a certain area and ergo more smarter. That might be a scary analogy. ;D http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26639-the-smart-mouse-with-the-halfhuman-brain.html#.VJ4PrF4AEA (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26639-the-smart-mouse-with-the-halfhuman-brain.html#.VJ4PrF4AEA)
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Ever notice how many devices and even movies are depicting AI as almost human in some respects? I think it is a way for us to "identify" on a higher level with it than if the device were only spewing forth cold, hard facts. The movie AI, Her, iRobot (all great movies IMHO) and devices like Amazon's Echo, Jibo, EmoSpark's Cube, Cubic Digital Assistant and more, not to mention software programs and smart phone apps like Android's Assistant, Google Now (although it really doesn't have much of a chat type personality), Cortana, etc.
Thinking programs NEED the Internet for functionally deliver topical, informative news and data. Some have speculated that we now spend more time chatting to / with our phones as we do our partner(s). (Then again, our partners simply don't know as much)... ;D Then again, luckily I can cook, as my phone doesn't do scrambled eggs and French toast very well!! ;D
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did you know, an AIM 9 sidewinder missile has about 2 million lines of code.......
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How many have watched Prometheus with Hal as Mother? can't wait until Prometheus 2? maybe things will become a whole lot more exciting, this is my journey to go where no mind has gone before.
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did you know, an AIM 9 sidewinder missile has about 2 million lines of code.......
And all it takes is one tiny glitch....
Hate to have to debug that! ;)
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How many have watched Prometheus with Hal as Mother? can't wait until Prometheus 2? maybe things will become a whole lot more exciting, this is my journey to go where no mind has gone before.
Yeah, that definitely looks to be exciting and I personally can't wait to experience his Blade Runner 2 if it actually comes to fruition. Should be way cool!
Movies - the media that allow us to temporarily escape our humdrum lives and venture where only the imagination can take us. Usually we make it back safely. Hmm...Nice story line.
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Art? what's on your mind?
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Hmm...I'd say there's over 6 decades, practically a lifetime of collected data, learned information, schooling, memories past and present, hundreds of books, stories, tall tales, hobby skills of all kinds, mechanical and woodworking knowledge, gardening, flying, computer, Sci-Fi, music (playing and listening), artwork and umm, sorry, what was the question? Hehehe..... ;D
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Just think how great it would be if we could pay a reasonable fee and download into our brain the skills for being a carpenter , etc. etc. and instantly be able to do it .
Think also how scary it could be that someone could hack something and cause harm within the same system .
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That sure would be a nice thing to be able to do Lightspeed. Unfortunately, I think it would most likely be extremely expensive, leaving it as something for a very select few. If it was available to everyone, just imagine how the world would change. Knowledge is a very powerful thing. I'd definitely be learning every programming language and all the skills I need for 3d modelling and such! There are so many things I would love to know how to do...my hunger for gaining knowledge would only increase over time! The only thing holding me back from learning everything I want to know is money, but the new skills and knowledge I will gain will allow me to make money to learn new things!!
Just imagine how your life would be if you knew everything you wanted to know. Just imagine what people with no moral guidelines (criminals, psychopaths, and terrorists) would do with the ability to learn anything they wanted to learn to help them achieve whatever "evil" plan they have concocted. There are a lot of things people should just not know how to do because they would misuse all this incredible knowledge at their fingertips.
So in the end, do we decide what people can learn and if so, who gets to decide this? Some would argue that all sorts of great knowledge is being suppressed by people who deem most of us unworthy of obtaining it.
Still, I would love to have the option to learn that easily.
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OK...so since you two never saw The Matrix trilogy, I'd strongly suggest you watch it, or at very least, the 1st in the series! You can learn Kung Fu or anything in a matter of a few seconds by uploading...
Nevermind...
Watch the movie and it will all become clear! There's a lot of good symbolism contained in the entire trilogy as well. Some lessons to be learned...or not.
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Haha! I've seen them. Good movies with plenty of things to make one think about. That's where some of my post came from. There s all sort of books and movies about a time when things like that are a reality.
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Art , are you kidding , lol the red pill or the blue ? I am a sci fi fan lol I have seen most movies including the different matrix movies , I was just saying it would be nice to be able to do that , how about the sci fi movie that starts out as a demo for amusement park park roller coaster rider , where the person saw and felt everything the original recorder saw and felt , of course it was abused later with a sexual recording ( I can't remember the name but it was a good movie . )
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Yep, Sci-Fi books and movies are where a large portion of my thoughts and ideas stem from in one manner or another. As a child growing up in the 50's, I imagined a laser beam or ray that could be shot from a gun or pistol like device. Problem is, lasers weren't invented until almost 1960!
The Dick Tracy Two-Way wrist radio was a marvel, a science fiction novelty in the 40's and 50's...now we have far better communication devices. Sci-Fi usually comes to pass in the short term.
But speaking of books, I can personally recommend several of these. The beauty is, they're eBooks and each a fairly short read but quite entertaining and chocked full of ideas along with memory, androids, alternate worlds, implants, future life, etc.
C.D. Clement's Continuation | Cory Doctorow's Eastern Standard Tribe | Ivan Turner's Life Broker | Joshua Hale Fialkov's Belly Button Reset | Luke Bergeron's Madelines Children | M. Darusha Wehm's Beautiful Red | Michael Graeme's The Man Who Could Not Forget & The Man Who Talked to Machines | Mike Deering's After the Singularity, Janice-Robot Maid, Julie Metaform, The Singularity | Moxie Mezcal's Concrete Underground | Wesley Allison's His Robot Girlfriend.
These are all available for FREE online though a bit of digging might be required. They are good reads inline with a lot of our views. Most can be found at www.feedbooks.com
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Great recommended reading Art , but a question are you a human please fill out the letters and numbers below to prove you are a human , this is to stop spammers ...... bwaaa haaa haa haa lol! :) ;)
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Nice one. You must have remembered that I hate (yes, my friends...I know...Hate is such a...Strong word!...Deal with it!!) those CAPTCHA things!! Those infernal Twisted and Convoluted Letters and Numbers that are so contorted your average PHD has trouble trying to read and decipher them!!
Actually, many years ago there was a chatbot that challenged the user / visitor to Prove that it was a Human! It was pretty good at making one think and it had plenty of information in order to disprove many of one's theories! Lots of fun but it made you think!!
Wish it was still around. I think the name was Mr. Mind or something like that!!
I B C N U LS.
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Art with the break thru in hacking and programing I wonder just how long the captcha can hold out before someone creates a program that can still read the crooked etc. letters and write them in bypassing that security to ? lol
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Oh...good point my friend. I had just read something about that very thought. Here's a bit to chew on. You are hungry aren't you? Hehe...:
In October 2013, artificial intelligence company Vicarious claimed that it had developed software that was able to solve modern CAPTCHAs with character recognition rates of up to 90%.[15] Unlike the previous one-off successes that made use of flaws in specific CAPTCHA tests, Vicarious asserted that its algorithms were powered by a holistic vision system modeled after insights from the human brain. The company also indicated that its AI was not specifically designed to complete CAPTCHA but rather to correctly recognize photographs, videos, and other visual data. However, Luis von Ahn, a pioneer of early CAPTCHA and founder of reCAPTCHA, expressed skepticism, stating: "It's hard for me to be impressed since I see these every few months." He pointed out that 50 similar claims to that of Vicarious's have been made since 2003.
Computer character recognition
Although CAPTCHAs were originally designed to defeat standard OCR software designed for document scanning, a number of research projects have proven that it is possible to defeat many CAPTCHAs with programs that are specifically tuned for a particular type of CAPTCHA. For CAPTCHAs with distorted letters, the approach typically consists of the following steps:
Removal of background clutter, for example with color filters and detection of thin lines.
Segmentation, i.e. splitting the image into segments containing a single letter.
Identifying the letter for each segment.
Step 1 is typically very easy to do automatically. In 2005, it was also shown that neural network algorithms have a lower error rate than humans in step 3.[22] The only part where humans still outperform computers is step 2. If the background clutter consists of shapes similar to letter shapes, and the letters are connected by this clutter, the segmentation becomes nearly impossible with current software. Hence, an effective CAPTCHA should focus on step 2, the segmentation.
Neural networks have been used with great success to defeat CAPTCHAs as they are generally indifferent to both affine and non-linear transformations. As they learn by example rather than through explicit coding, with appropriate tools very limited technical knowledge is required to defeat more complex CAPTCHAs.
Some CAPTCHA-defeating projects:
Mori et al. published a paper in IEEE CVPR'03 detailing a method for defeating one of the most popular CAPTCHAs, EZ-Gimpy, which was tested as being 92% accurate in defeating it.[23] The same method was also shown to defeat the more complex and less-widely deployed Gimpy program 33% of the time. However, the existence of implementations of their algorithm in actual use is indeterminate at this time.
PWNtcha has made significant progress in defeating commonly used CAPTCHAs, which has contributed to a general migration towards more sophisticated CAPTCHAs.[24]
A number of Microsoft Research papers describe how computer programs and humans cope with varying degrees of distortion.[22]