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Zabaware Forums => General Discussion => Topic started by: lightspeed on June 09, 2009, 05:05:04 pm
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here is a link is this suppose to be whats relacing vista on future computers ??
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2347652,00.asp
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Yes it is the newest version from Microsoft. Thet have tried to get me to upgrade several times already but I won't go for it.
The last laptop that I bought contained Vista and I don't like it even one little bit so I went looking for something else.
I found a duo core laptop with XP operating system so it is not my preferred laptop and computer that I use all the time.
I also belong to several other web sites and they are talking about Windows 7 and Sooner or later I will be able to supply the user here with more information about the new (7)
Bill
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I tried it too, but no good. Only ran 1/3 of the time. Wouldn't start up right. I'll wait for the bugs to get out of it.
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Windows 7 works great for me. [:D]
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Jack, depends which version you tried.
If it was the beta, yes I had trouble with it also.
But now with the release candidate, no worries.
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I tried the Beta briefly and quite liked it. Didn't notice any issues but I didn't use it much to be fair. Overall I think it looks good and I will probably get it. I've heard XP programs work better on it than Vista. Vista sounded poor from a lot I have read, but more people seem to be taken with 7. I'm glad I never wasted any money on Vista - I couldn't really see the need as XP works fine. Eventually I will probably get 7 though but not for a while yet.
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ok admit it markofkane you actually work for microsoft dont you ??? your not fooling us any lol ! didnt i see you on that "and i'm a pc to " commercial ? lol just kidding ![:D]
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No. I like fooling around with linux. But Windows 7 is faster than Vista for me.[8D]
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Hi,
i'm using XP as its the first operating system that i find works for me, the others i've had were just a big "DOH!" .
i've not tryed vista and am not really interested to.
why would i change to something when for the first time i can get my pc to keep going,
"do you think my pc is suddenly going to get sent a virus as soon as i post this".
i'm thinking surely its a good idea to have some stable ground to work from in these times, don't we need some system we all know and can allow some work to get done.
perhaps i see XP like the 98 used to be the minimum and everyone could fall back on if the new thing fell over.
i have said before that i'm sticking with XP for probably the next five years, everyone i know bar a few use XP.
its a operating system that finally works ok from my point of view, uh the thought of experimenting with untested systems and for what, so we can use the programs we already have.
I respect Microsoft and the work they have done and i do admire Mr Gates for starting from small.
i'm still small, um , ok i'm almost up to being small, [:D]
Mr Data is what i'm using my pc for and when he is learning and working he does not need fixing.
Thank you,
Bye for now and be well :) :]
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I tend to agree Will. I am perfectly happy with XP, it does everything I need it to and a lot I probably haven't heard of yet. I think I will give it a year or two before I seriously consider 'upgrading' to W7.
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Originally posted by jackgephart
I tried it too, but no good. Only ran 1/3 of the time. Wouldn't start up right. I'll wait for the bugs to get out of it.
windows 7 is the best operating system yet! pre order for a cheep buy. its worth it definatly, has xp virtual pc thrown in.... make sure you upgrade mother board and processor to amd-v intel-v mboard with hardware asststed virtulization... im running 64bit... smooth as a baby!
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THE Windows 7 RC2 all the way back to beta. Has been a smooth run....
1. YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. - Hardware assisted virtulization - Multi-core processor With Hyperthredding Technology
2. It requires less RAM Than the previous Vista memory hungry machine... Resource intensive Vista.... Windows 7 activates less memory resident resources....
3. Professional + is required. Home Editions "JUST DONT CUT THE MUSTARD" - missing important KEY Services.
4. Windows 7 Comes with XP MODE FREE VIRTUAL PC - now RUN SEAMLESS APLICATIONS- Install HAL HERE for Best results - Actually Install Most programs here for compatibility.... a free Windows Xp sp3.
5. if you really love vista - Quickly go out and buy one and microsoft will GIVE you a windows 7 equivilent FREE....
I cant say more, lol, I CAN... But well you have to decide....IS REALLY WORTH IT THIS TIME.... Get it early for the CHEEPEST PRICES. Microsoft will put the prices back up after OCTOBER 22-30th.
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Originally posted by freddy888
I tend to agree Will. I am perfectly happy with XP, it does everything I need it to and a lot I probably haven't heard of yet. I think I will give it a year or two before I seriously consider 'upgrading' to W7.
DON'T SAY THAT.....
Buy the vista ultimate upgrade QUICK.... ON PRE.... YOU GET A FREE windows 7 AS WELL.... Windows 7 Comes with a Free XP SP3 Virtual hard disk FULLY INSTALLED AND ACTIVATED....
XP applications when installed in the xp mode (VPC), their short cuts are also installed into you WINDOWS 7 Start menu, when you run the app, you get the choice Rn Just app SEAMLESS or load Whole Virtual PC.... It also Associates all relevent files with the installed xp app. ie DivX files for DIVX player, even when double clicking the file it opens in the XP APP....
Now is the best time to get it, Buy the time you wait you will be... way in the past....... this edition of windows can take a full 16gb ram
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Thanks Spydaz I am happy to hear your enthusiasm on this. [:D]
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Originally posted by freddy888
Thanks Spydaz I am happy to hear your enthusiasm on this. [:D]
In england its only £49! - home premium - £99 Professional
Even cheeper some places!
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Where can you get professional for £99 ?
So far I only found it on Amazon for £180...
Cheers.
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Ahh look what I found :
Pro £89.99 : http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/024588
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Home P £44.99 - http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/457250
Can you beat that ?
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That’s a good price there freddy, thanks for finding it. I think I might pre order.
Been trying Win7 for a while now, first the beta 32bit and now RC1 64bit and there are some things I really like about it: I never much cared for Vista.
Its media center is much improved over XP media center, and they got the red button working.
Its boot time is quicker than Media Center XP
Games play as good as in XP (with the right drivers)
Hal works in Win 7 too [8D]
Oh but I hate the nag screens:
Are you sure you want to use your computer? We think you might be stupid and are sure that you don’t know what you are doing!
You cant install this driver, the author hasn’t paid Microsoft many $ for signing it. (really annoying on the 64bit Win 7 you cant turn off driver signing unless you hit F8 on every boot)
The network icon in the systrey is almost useless it doesn’t show network activity.
And no e-mail client shipped with it, that’s a pain, Outlook Express was perfect and a lot of people don’t like Live Mail, me included.
Oh! This post has turned into a rant [?]
Hmmm! Im still not sure about Win 7
Freddy what does the E stand for in these versions?
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Yes nice price - I bet a lot of people who use Amazon don't shop around either - shame lol. Actually I like Amazon but their price is surprisingly expensive compared to PC World. Another thing about PC World is it includes shipping.
I liked the beta from what little I played with it. Especially the way it loads drivers for you. I think most of my present system worked with it OK. I got on-line which is one of the main things for me. The rest will hopefully be sorted out by using the XP Mode.
Thanks for the heads up on using f8 for drivers. I am sure I will need that.
On email - I use all web-mail and I haven't used Outlook for years. I would have thought you could download this from Microsoft anyway, so not a biggie. I know it doesn't ship with IE either - personally I only use Google Chrome for surfing now. I would need IE for some of my web-site designing though.
I took the bait and ordered it - just to be sure I get in while stocks last - I figure I can always cancel it before October if something terrible happens to me!
After a lot of digging I found the 'E' stands for 'Europe'.
See this page :
http://microsoftontheissues.com/cs/blogs/mscorp/archive/2009/06/11/working-to-fulfill-our-legal-obligations-in-europe-for-windows-7.aspx
Excerpt:
"Windows 7 will be offered in Europe in all of the versions that will be available here in the United States, both 32- and 64-bit, with an “E” at the end of the product name (for instance, Windows 7 Home Premium E). The E versions of Windows 7 will ship at the same time as Windows 7 ships in the rest of the world, and they will be available in 23 European languages."
It comes with both 32 and 64 bit versions inclusive which is a plus. I'd like to go for 64 bit, but I am not sure about issues with that - got any pointers ?
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Ahh! the E stands for Europe, thanks for looking that up Freddy, As I was typing it I thought why don’t I just go look it up [:o)]
I’m surprised at the prices on Amazon too even more surprised they have been beaten by PC world. Hehe … nice find.
You ordered it, you did it, you actually did it ;)
Did you get Pro?
It comes with both 32 and 64? Really that’s cool.
I have to agree with spydaz, if you can get the 64bit working with all drivers, it is silky smooth and seems to run everything I like to use my PC for.
If I was you, I know I’m not ;)) but it might help you when you get that shiny new disk, I would go and get the latest RC and get it running with all drivers and software I like to use, its taken me a while to get to the bottom of some of the problems I’ve had with drivers, Its not just hardware that need them, some software installs drivers too, normally not a problem but on the “64bit Win 7” drivers now have to be signed.
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Hehe, no problem, I was wondering that myself too anyway.
Yes I went for the Pro version. I just don't want to get half way down the road and find something I need to do isn't supported - I've always used Pro versions.
And yes it's great it comes with both 32 and 64 bit, so no worrying over which version to get, because you can try both.
Thanks for the advice :~)
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I would go for Pro as well.
Make sure you have a web browser on disk or flash drive I see its not shipped with one. That could be very annoying for those with one PC in the house.
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Ah yes, good point! Hadn't thought of that.
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Just found PC World upped their prices :
£159.99
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/002753
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After the PRE Time period has finished all prices went up... AMAZON could not be bothered... so they just released it at its full price.... quick bit of "SKIMMING THE CREAM" << standard business practice !
I DO SUGGEST PROFESSIONAL Not Ultimate, after all the comparisons there is nothing to be GAINED from the ultimate version, previously they had minor lockdowns on pro (DEFINATLY HOME) now its just a minor... Pro could probalbly UNLOCK those extra feature quite easyly...
PS: HAPTEK does tend to jam a little bit on SEVEN 64-BIT, BUT...
I found that if you install things like ultrahal into the XPMODE then you have it working FINE!... MS AGENT HAs transparency issues in WIN7 & its not even installed at all the download is required... even then you will need to CUT and SAVE & ZIP the previous VISTA( WINDOWsMSAGENT folder to replaced the newly installed version. this will fix any transparency issues.... NOT THE XPVERSION .....
If you do have such problems then Just install any MSAGENT dependent software in XPMODE and It will Run in Seemless mode...
just copy the shortcut from Virtual Windows XP Applications folder to your startmenu startup folder and it will launch the virtual application at the start of windows.... it ZABAWARE STARTUP!
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That pre selling period didn't last long then. I am glad I got mine ordered before it went up though. Saved myself a lot of money.
Thanks for the tips, I'll probably want Haptek on my PC, but I never rated MSAgents very highly, just not my thing.
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Windows 7 is now being released to PC manufacturers, a friend of mine that has an account with MS has the final release in his hands, its closer than you might think.
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I thought if win 7 detects a XP program it will run it in VM 'mode'?
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OOPS!,
Yes that was me 'fingers a blarin' without reading the good info that had already been discussed.
J.