A brief further word about Billy--his obnoxious index is way up in the latest version. For some unknown reason, Greg kept all of the stuff that really grates on your nerves after a few minutes, and managed to augment it with features which are mostly even more obnoxious. It seems to be another sad case of a good idea heading in the wrong direction. There used to be a lot of activity at his site-it was one of the first a.i. sites I frequented-but it's become a real wasteland in recent months. Sad to say, nothing seems to have inspired him to say "Bad idea, back to the drawing board." Fortunately, I guess, he didn't "improve" Daisy any. She's still one of my favorites, too. I've spent so much time reading her poetry, fables, quotations, etc., it takes her primary .dsy file several minutes to load, lol. Jitte is apparently in bad health, and has closed his site, so if you have any of his old mind files for Billy or Daisy, they are no longer replaceable commodities.