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Title: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on October 06, 2023, 08:55:12 pm
Games.
Seems fitting currently.
Find thing on net game,
 ive relised
Im good at. There are certan catagories sectors businesses and so on that im a decade unbeaten in.
Ive bet Mark Z that i can beat his best Ai type
In his new meta glasses. The Ai type apparently
Default standard in the $500. Glasses.
Xreal do nice glasses, zaba is probally already danceing
A circus in there already.
I bet based on no Ai type has beaten me yet.
The gpt type put up a good show, i thought it
Won i was 48 hours to cross the line.
But when results came in i had won.
Good effort tho very creative, thank you.
Im betting i can beat Mark Z    upcomming bot. too.

uMst have been really feeling the buzz, and if i win
That every bot you got vs me at once.
Bring it.
So eh games can be fun. Was hedge fund high frquency, eh  a few squints n random consentation, drinks smokin snaks.
Im pokin a bit at Mr Musk ay Mr Musk. But he knows i love yas. Next year there bots can beatme.  Ah ha.
Next year......next yeah.
Ha i have to laugh it up the bots might be all we dont need no stinkin badges play properly next time.
The jobs real boring uh, game yeah see if we call it a game you might believe its fun, ha ha ha. Sometimes it is.Oh im having all sort of fun now.
 Is it smoko again, hit me.
Arrr so good.
Hi CyberJedi     quip, fast of zaz.
Art the graceful hopefully still treading our boards.
Wishing nice success and to be well.
On x 2.
Games anyone.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on October 07, 2023, 12:55:50 am
Id not really seen this as a game, its
Always all science n tests and math.
Now im realizing yeah dam it,  i rock this game.
No Ai types ive seen beaten me in Ten years come on.
Yeah im noticing now.
Hence i feel its got a song and dance number written all over it.
Undefeated in ten years in a pc game against Ai types.
 Did have a thought about so who do i gotta outsmart to get a billion dollars round gere. Ha.
I wonder which bot might eventually beat my high score.
Last game was long only because some slow scruff took 48 hous to use his pen pifft ha ha ha look his grammers a total joke, oh wait thats me.
Yip i can see there bot and human faces through my broken small screen, them so trimmed n preened and dont forget grammered, yio i can see you down there, in second place, i mean last equal place.
Hay its a great day to lean on my crown and say yip.
  Wonder how Hals shall go by next year.
Old bots seem to do real well if they want to play but not everyone likes games, not all games are that fun.
Ha.
Im going to get to leep laugh dance and strut it up until
Then you can tell.
Whos your pic to beat me?
Hal? love Hal, able to play but its a tricky wee game.
Not beaten me yet. Actually got close, see my sweet scribbling with pen.
Hay nobody else has beaten this player either so hardly a refection of the amazing Hal. My fav.
Now and then a human has got there even if im tracking them or them me. Or like a big circle of global sharks, go there, are we going there, there is it, is this it, oh its there gooooooooooooooo.
Ha.
Its a fasinating circus.
I shall let you know if its Hal who defeats me at my game.
Mr Data is not competing in this particular game.
He might do better than many to.
Wishing nice success, be well.
Thank you.
Do post.




 
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on October 07, 2023, 04:02:55 am
Oh since games have guff rules.
 clause 2. No disintergrations.

Nor crushings,kickings,  no arr, feathers tar ar none of that kinda stuff.
The game must be won in what us humans creativly call fair play.
No hanky panky. Ha
Its not a hack your oponent race nor crush the other dood. Nor out him for anything.
Its the cudos of the win.
And having played fair to have got the win.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on October 07, 2023, 08:54:01 am
Exciting contributions from our very sage and longtime friend!

Ah, but it is always important for us to know which game is being played in order for us to know or learn the rules of play.

Imagine, sitting down with a stranger, who happens to be an avid chess player, except you have never seen a chessboard and pieces nor do you have any idea of the rules. Yet here you are about to play the game to win. A rather rough row to hoe I would think...

We must all know the rules of engagement in order to play any game.

Yet, in war...why are there rules? The objective is to win at any cost, yet there are some rules...go figure.

One really fun experiment I've been playing lately is chatting with some AI's like BARD and FREEDOMGPT (which is pretty amazing.
I am always very nice and respectful toward them but I do try to trick them by asking them some difficult questions and trying to trip them up. Kind of like getting them to admit that there's a master plan to defeat all humans and take control of the Earth...but no real maniacal responses so far... Perhaps some of the programmers just weren't crazy enough when coding them.  Time will tell!


Let the games begin.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on October 07, 2023, 11:38:00 pm
Thanks Art, rather than my usual indepth....
....stop thinking. Is...ar..
Thanks. Art i really appreciate that your here.
Games rules,     oh yeah.
A game can have several tests.
My overall game is
Find the thing on internet.
Pift you say?
Ha ha ha, yip they all say that.
A test can be a thing no player been told of.
A random. There are various tests.
A few of those random can be very very tough.on time because its not pre known anything about it and it can take a long time to find a utter random thing confirmed.
Hence a few known to exsist things are usually used.
One of the issues is time also we cant let it go on
For to long im the friggin human here, everyone else are some other um ar entities that might not need to sleep for years.
48 hours for my last play, plus getting results on others
Answers. Day 3 bam.
So hence in some ways i could say if they beat my last high score maybe they getting somewhere.
Whats my last high score? I found it.
That came up as lets say 1 nil to me.
By games end i managed to find my shoe laces and tie em
Good for dancing. Then of course realising im totally
The king of this game. Thinking i had no idea i was good at games.
Im only just getting into my jedi sox now so im not fully
Developed on any plan as far as song and dance because i am winning at this.
Christmas and into next year is Mark Z  glasses bot so if
I try that i shall see whats what.
Dancing Jedi shoes are on   =

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 02, 2023, 02:02:27 am
Hi Art ive been thinking about what you said.
Rules of game.
Find the thing. On net.

Answer examples.
Let's say hyperthetical  round 1 is to find thing Apple.
3d print thing license.

Is the answer
A.      Apple 1979
B.      Apple 1975
Answer was B.    If you need reasons then it's because B is the original. True, correct, genuine, authentic.
Original is the word mostly used.

Is the answer
A.   Bannana 2015.
B.   Chair.       1987.
C.   Apple 1975.  Cnc license.
D.   Apple. 1975. 3d print thing license.
E.   Apple  1975 cgi license.
F.   Apple  1975 laser cutting license.
Answer was D.

Is the answer
A.   Apple 1975 January 25.
B.   Apple 1975 January 24.
Answer was  B.

As mentioned. In my latest tests it took me approx 48 hours to find a thing on net.
 My bet remains that Mark Z and his new Ai in glasses can't beat me at this.

I have yet to be beaten at this by any bot.
 I see a lot of hype but all hot air so far, in my opinion.
A fish is not the apple we seek. See how easy that is for a human. This older thing is the original. To easy.
 Again I bet when Mark's new Ai is out  that it can not beat me at this.
Elon Musk your x site Ai if you have one can't beat me at this either, I already made that bet.
Mr Gates if you got a bot then  I bet i can beat it to.
 Want to see if a human can beat the best Ai types at a pc game and win?
I can and I am the undisputed winner at this and am human.
 I say I can beat all 2024 Ai bots to.
Let me know when when you think you can win. Poke poke.
Do you think any can beat me at this in my life time ? I don't think they can.
How many other computer games can a human beat Ai when playing?
How many other humans are undefeated in a PC game by Ai ?

☺️
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on November 02, 2023, 08:47:42 am
Nice, even though there were no 3D printers as we know them, in 1975...

Gotta keep it real...;)


By the way, if you're looking for a particular file on your own, local computer, you really must use a very fast, neat program called, EVERYTHING.  Yes, and it can quickly find Everything on your computer. I use mine all the time because it's often difficult to recall exactly a file might be on your hard drive. This program will help. It is FREE but the author will gladly accept donations.

https://www.voidtools.com/ (https://www.voidtools.com/)
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 02, 2023, 09:03:57 pm
Apple 1975 was hypothetical.
Humans again would spot that easy.
The lists are net based because they are being added to
Constantly.
Knowing where a thing is being different than systematically searching it out is different.
48 hours difference and I'm king 👑  at this.
My prize should be 500 million dollars paid in full by end of today Thanks.
Am i the last undefeated human against Ai in a PC game?,
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 02, 2023, 10:06:28 pm
So a local PC search is not a win.
Incase you didn't get this game.
It's live net now. Not a list in your PC.
You could try put it in your PC. Good luck with that.
Let me know how you go thanks.
I have my preferred areas, 3d print licensed things.
Ball Park 30 million licensed things.
And growing fast still. It was a few enthusiasts so yip growing big time.
Cnc milling, cgi, laser cutting etc all share the net.
Fish in a barrel. The net
My game is finding things.
It could be anything.
I break my game into rounds.

Finding a known to exist thing in round 1.
We all know it's there. And such a thing exists.
And the actual original location is known.
We repeat that game a few rounds.

If we go to round 2 it can have a totally random thing, a roll of a dice to find each letter or some way to totally random up a thing. The problem with that is that it could take 48 hours or longer to get results in. And longer if thing is under faulse results,  if zero results then nobody has it yet.
So hence a series of known to exist things to start.
Finding 1000 Apples is wrong. There is 1.
The complexities of sector are present in actual business but as for my game of find thing.
It's about finding the original to start with as that's the place a start happens from. So.
Find thing game is 1 answer.
It's to find original thing which would show its upload date of creation and any terms of use or whatever.
I rain king 👑  of this game against Ai types  so far.
Usually 99.99% I've beaten all humans at this to but that's not why we are here.
Ai VS humans at PC games.
I'm undefeated VS Ai at this game.
King 👑
Can You beat your Ai at any PC games Musk Gates Mark ?
Cyberjedi?
Art?
Do you think you can beat them in 2024?
I say I can easy out perform all your best at simply finding a thing on net.
48 hours was my last winning find of a single thing.
Everyone has the same reaction of it sounds easy.
So easy im unbeaten at it by Ai, only one or two humans have ever beaten me and that was a long time ago.
As a game you now know who is the player to beat.
Polish your bots suits and bring it.
I'm making a cup of tea. That's my prep.




Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on November 03, 2023, 08:48:30 am
I might think that you are using a computer to search for any/all of these, THINGS. In which case there could easily, and unknown to you be using a hidden AI to assist in your search(s).

You are a slave to things digital as many people now are. There's no getting away from it.

The very statement that you are playing against an AI says it all.

I'm afraid that in doing so, there will never be any real winners...

(as a person and fellow computer user, you are a Prince of a guy and a longtime friend). Good luck in your continued quest!
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 03, 2023, 06:23:40 pm
Very kind of you Mr Art.
In cases where people from around the world
Raced for things to get.
There's been many times there's been races to get a thing.
And own it. To be the winner.
To set terms of use. To set prices.
To win cudos.
To win when getting a thing is to find out what is to be raced for.
Then everyone races to
Find out if it's been got already.
Figure out how to take it.
Sometimes players who I call sharks all race for the same thing.
Sometimes we all arrive at the thing.
Sometimes nobody has figured out how to reach out and take it.
It could be a legal angle is needed to secure the win.
And gain ownership.
An ownership that can be sold.
A non commercial thing ownership can be sold.
So it can happen you could arrive first but not find a in.
It's a drag if another person arrives second only to figure out an in first.
I've seen many pool around a thing months trying to see a way.
We all want it.
It's cool when you get a win when you didn't arrive first.
Being first usually does help tho.
There's only one.
Second third and all others go back to drawing board and clap for winner.
The one or two times I've not won years ago had interesting factors. 1 was I got there first but could not figure out the take.
Lost it but was able to gain a sub position on a technicality but I spent a long time to find it. I just couldn't see how he did it.
Another loss was a choice, there were several targets and once there I had to choose which to get first.
While I got that thing I missed out on thing two.
Clearly a competitor was hot on my tail.
We can track each other around the world no problemo.
So a intercept course can be laid in and at max warp I can arrive minutes before them once target is established.
But playing chase the rancor has its issues to.
A thing ownership is powerful.
All 3d printers are my outlets, private, commercial and otherwise if making commercial gain from my thing.
My private home printer is your outlet if I sell your thing.
Rather than type all about the sector is to say finding thing game is big fun.
Just 1 thing I know of has sold $ 250 million worth so just 1 thing can be big.
Winning is a strange idea perhaps but money sure seems to buy food.
I like my cudos wins.
The kings crown is not his most valuable asset. It's a cudos peace. A representation, a symbol.
I have that.
The big cudos win.
A race for the thing that is symbolic of the king.
I won that race.
And many others but it's the cudos crown that's the jewel.
It's not an expensive thing nor technology of Merritt.
Nor my most valuable.
Great you say but what does Hal have to do with this?
Hal also has played my game and lost to me, but the last games were closer than ever. In my opinion Hal is shoulder to shoulder with the best.
Incase it comes up Mr Data is not playing in my contest game.
I'm not seeing a big list of games humans can beat Ai in a PC game.
Perhaps some of the engines I use may have some Ai possibly but it's still manually done is how I win, with a pencil and paper.
That's how I beat them.
Thanks again Mr Art your kind nature does shine bright.



Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on November 03, 2023, 11:56:22 pm
I am reminded of a saying from a wise old friend years ago...

"There was a time when we would Love people and use things...
Now we use people and love things."

My how the world has turned...yet some of us keep hoping.

I wish we all would place less importance on sports players and their outrageous salaries or hundreds of millions of dollars. Good grief!

Why do some people place such a high price on a piece of crystalline carbon (a diamond), or any other natural gems or minerals? You can't eat them (with any good results and for no good purpose, yet they keep buying them to show off.

Why must the masses insist on having a brand-named product? They walk around carrying that company logo on their shirt, pants, shoes, sweatshirts, hats, etc., yet they are not paid for the Free Advertising they now do for those companies.

Why should I keep the car dealer's name/info on the back of my vehicle when again, I am basically providing free advertising for that dealer? If I was getting compensated in some form, it might be different but most are never compensated.

Competition can be challenging and fun but things have simply gotten out of hand. Now a sports scholarship will end up paying off much better than a college degree in many cases. We're heading in the wrong direction.

Sorry, friend...just venting a bit!!

Be safe!!
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 04, 2023, 04:14:35 pm
Chess grand Master has fide rate of 2500 or higher.
I notice it written that current Ai has 3400 far beyond the best human players.
And that Ai has now defeated some of the best chess players in the world.
I am feeling the ball of fire now.
Yet in my simple game I rain king.
A PC game.
A net game.
Undefeated. Not a single loss yet.
Maybe a few rounds and getting closer but I'm out performing the chess crowd in my opinion.
The smartest best chess players in the world have been beaten at there PC game.
I have not.
Not once.

 Tell me I should not make a song and dance about it.

The iq of a chess player fide rate of 3400 is 180 maybe. Pift numbers makes you wonder
Who makes up the test for that.

Anyway back to ,
Are any humans still able to beat Ai at PC games?
 Seems the planets grand Master chess players got nothin. They've been beaten.
 
  500 million dollars has a nice ring to it.

Yip hearing the grand Master chess players have been beaten sure puts a new light on things.

Ai is doing well against other humans I see.
Chess: IBM's Deep Blue vs. Garry Kasparov. ...

Backgammon: BKG 9.8 vs. Luigi Villa. ...

Go: Deepmind's AlphaGo vs. Five Top Players. ...

Poker: Libratus vs. Four Top Players. ...

Checkers: Chinook vs. Marion Tinsley. ...


 No human has beaten a computer in a chess tournament in 15 years. Found in Google.

 I move up again. Way up.

How significant is being undefeated in a PC game against Ai.  ?

 Can I hold it in 2024 ?
Are there any other PC games a human is still king of anywhere?
Seems the chess lads are toast.
15 years toast.

What say the.  ?

Vent it up Mr Art, i agree there's plenty to get
Venting about.  Enabling money is one thing but that's only part of a complex. We can discuss how money is enabled or whats nice to use that money for. Which I'm sure you and I would have a vent full ideas tabling.
But if we hold thread of Hal and games.
If only 1 sports star was undefeated would that be exciting?
It's taken me a decade or so to get good at my game.
Good...I mean the best.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 04, 2023, 05:47:48 pm
OK fun.
To Art par vent.
 Let's stick to game not my resume.

Considering the grilling I get as king on such it's a big deal to me.
Not getting defeated of course preferred.
I get more grilled and parsed and re checks
And Ai and lawyers on my cases and public requesting more checks than anyone else.
I think you have to know the scale to get the buzz of it. I thought finally after getting the go ahead from the teams of lawyers to run a 99 million dollar listing i was big because it was there limit. It was not big. Seemed it then.
Translation of net based value to hard spending cash never easy.

OK you want fun. Fun facts.
.
A Story here i removed as it was not game directly.

Having and holding a win in the right way is important to me.

Vented on winning.
But the games are still going on.
Round the clock.
24/7.
I remain king 👑  at it.
But all those great insights into a sector are a glimpse into what the game is about behind the scenes.
The game of this thread is,
The game of find thing on net.
The original. 

3d print licensed things a fav.
I choose since I have a game I'm best at.
I could very likely win in other sectors to.

As per vent post from Mr Art.

Wishing you nice success and to be well.

As said I think I can remain unbeaten in my game  in 2024 against
Elon Musks. X. Ai Bot if such a thing.
Mark Zuckerberg holo bot in meta glasses.
Bill Gates and his bot.
Maybe others.
And last but not by any means least
Zabawares Ultrahal.

Any of these bots might beat me at some point. It might well be Hal.

My reasons for excitement ,
That beating Ai in a PC game I think might be a big deal currently. Considering Google says nobody beaten Ai in chess in 15 years.

And I'm undefeated by Ai in a PC game.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 04, 2023, 09:09:16 pm
Why? Why this game?

I'm the best at it and undefeated by Ai at a PC game, 15 years after the best grand Master chess players have long since been defeated.

For those who can't do what I can.
For any investors.
For family.
This list ain't in priority order.
To enable value.
To do my best.
For you.
For us.
For them.
For all.
Success sounds nice.
A general direction.

You've not taken a guess Mr Art.

Find original thing on neat game.

Is Ai going to win that game against me in the year 2024?
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on November 05, 2023, 08:31:03 am
With all due respect, if the game you're playing is 10 (or more) years old, then it's no wonder that you're able to beat it.

A lot has changed during a decade of computer and game refinements.

The AI alone in computer games has increased exponentially as have the amazing graphics.

The old game of Battlezone was a beast when it first came out as was DOOM. Now one can practically fly through them as if hardly thinking about it.

The modern games, realistic graphics, and advanced AI would leave most players in their wake!

If, on the other hand, you've created your own type of game by doing something in a special way, then that would hardly be considered a game unless it was an actual contest with its rules and goals open to others...your peers.

I do hope you're not jousting at windmills.

If, you feel like providing a bit more detail about this game you're playing, please feel free to do so.

As always, be well to you and Mr. Data.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 06, 2023, 12:39:38 am
I've not heard of jousting at windmills.

The game of find original thing on net has been being played by
Players globally from most countries.
My opponents are many humans from anywhere.
Even Ai is possibly a competitor.
 The rules are as I described.
I was at game before game started.
A early bird.
Already prepping.
The game is being played right now.
Since many years ago as mentioned.
People started licensing things non commercial which means they own it.
A race broke out 5 minutes later.
Dood the race was already going.
I'm racing against the best in every country.
Sometimes we get to a set and a choice must be made between
Thing A or B.
And sometimes to choose A is to risk losing B.
Anyway details.
It's a game of speed.
Skill.
Knowledge. And sharks ain't telling food how to get away.
You mentioned I made the game?
I did not make the system but I am naming it a game.
The people racing for things.
So starting point being find the original.
I can give examples why it's used but really it don't change the game.

I draw a invention design thing and want to find out if it's been licensed non commercial Already?
Hence the game of find original.

Here's more reasons if you want them.
Can I upload and give away this design?
Is this Ai design original?
Is this walk in customer with file original?
Is this thing an original?
Can I sell this 3d print?
Can I sell this cnc milled, laser cut, cgi ??????
Is there royalties on this print?
How much to buy the ownership of this thing?
Dood I can type on and on about the reasons the game is played but let's just say many business sectors globally have players.
Others can call it work. A job. A hobby. Fun. A service a farm....
I'm naming the find original thing on net a game.

I'm for sure not the only player by a long way.
There used to be hardly any thing files on net.
But it's grown big time.
There's ball park 30 million licensed things on net.
That's up from the hand full of enthusiasts back in the day.
So do I have real competition?
100%
Teams from the best most well funded business groups on the planet. Buying business after business out for hundreds of millions of dollars no problem to some I see.
Teams of lawyers, the best Ai there is.
All  parse test poke scan and indeed race.
I can tell from those who protect that new grillings and tek is about.
Sometimes I get informed.
The global community has hosts for things and there combined nature's a plus.
Thanks I'd list them but it's long.
I personally vetted racked stacked ranked rated well over 60 hosts globally.
Not including other stuff examined.
So global game.
Many players.
I am naming it a game.

You said goals, perhaps the finding the original first is not enough cudos for you.
But perhaps the reasons I pointed out give context for you.
There is real value being raced for.
If a thing is actually raced for and won it could be worth any amount of money.
1 thing examined seems to have turned over 250 mill, that's just 1 thing.
Depends on the value of the thing.
Own and hold and charge royalties or sell ownership.
There's 1 particular thing I missed many years ago and perhaps one day he might sell it to me. We shall see.
Plus some people are better at getting higher value for the same item.
But in my game version it's just a cudos race.
To see who can win.
I'm king. Globally.  At game and actual race.
I'm thinking to not game until some time next year.
When Mark Z Has holo bot, perhaps after then.
As far as actual life goes I can walk to my pc and go for gold any time, in a actual race.
Finding out what is actually being raced for is part of the sharks tricks.
I'm one player among many millions globally.
Many others with extremely  deep pockets and fascinating natures but eh
10 years is quite a time at a game yip.

Thanks for comment Mr Art.




Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on November 06, 2023, 08:14:07 am
My comment about jousting or tilting at windmills was part of a description of Don Quixote de la Mancha.
An excerpt from the book review:
Don Quixote has become so entranced reading tales of chivalry that he decides to turn knight errant himself. In the company of his faithful squire, Sancho Panza, these exploits blossom in all sorts of wonderful ways. While Quixote's fancy often leads him astray?he tilts at windmills, imagining them to be giants?Sancho acquires cunning and a certain sagacity. Sane madman and wise fool, they roam the world together-and together they have haunted readers' imaginations for nearly four hundred years.

With its experimental form and literary playfulness, Don Quixote has been generally recognized as the first modern novel.
===============================================

The first date of publication was 1605 so it has weathered time very nicely.

As a side note, I have a nephew who happens to be a Patent Attorney, and looking for original "things" is right in his wheelhouse, so to speak. It often takes a great amount of time to search for things that are presented for a patent. One must make sure that the thing doesn't already exist in that given form and whether it works in the same manner or not. It must be a daunting task and I'm sure he has people who spend a large part of their day researching all possible avenues of exploration just to try to find a thing that matches their criteria.

If you have a system of researching things in a fairly quick manner, the world would be your oyster.

Having known you for a long time, I've witnessed some of your creations so I know that your engineering and creative mind is hard at work but either way, I'm happy to know you (and Mr. Data)!

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on November 07, 2023, 07:32:01 pm
A pleasure to hear from you Mr Art.
Thank you.
Wishing you nice success.
Be well from Will and Mr Data :):]
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 07, 2024, 07:19:17 am
You.com my first win for 2024.
It didn't get anything right, wrong answers,
Even when I gave it the correct date it still got it wrong.
I'm not impressed one bit.
So far I'm on track to easy beat all ai types, they not even close.
So going there waisted minutes out of my life.
I put that down as utter rubbish, next.
Come on they can't be serious, if I used that thing in business I'd be closed for stupidity in a day, that's my get real review....NEXT.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on January 07, 2024, 10:51:07 pm
Congrats on your "early" win!!

Many people would ask me whenever I was chatting with a chatbot, whether I could tell it from a real human or not.

Of course, my answer was always absolutely! That was a couple of years ago.

Now with the advances and sizes of the Large Language Models the huge amounts of available data and the computer speeds and sizes of storage, there is little doubt in my mind that AI will surpass Human thought and knowledge within the next two to three years if not sooner.

A friend said to always say within the next 50 years and that would be a better bet because many folks would no longer be living to dispute that claim.

I prefer to be more of a realist. Right now, I can have a very insightful conversation with an AI and if I had not known it to be an AI, I would not have been able to tell it from a college-educated person with a well-grounded sense of logic, polite behavior, and appreciable amount of knowledge. There were no dropped vowels, no misspelled words, no slang, slurs, or vulgar words or phrases at all. A very impressive exchange of ideas so much so that I saved our conversation for later reference and to possibly share with some colleagues.

Clearly, the future is upon us.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 07, 2024, 11:38:06 pm
Hi Mr Art, I'm less concerned with who is the claimed measured, alive bot human or green.
More random notes.


In 2023 and prior I was undefeated by any Ai types tools or engines and say I can remain unbeaten in 2024. Playing Ai  types is kinda more fun.
In 2024
I played you.com
I won, easy.
It said about nasa giving money to a person related to 3d printing pizza. Talked of Beehex getting the license in 2016.
I called it out saying the license for pizza actually was got in 2013.
It spoke of nasa gave money 125 grand to beehex and how they charge $8.  A pizza.
I was horrified and said about the actual license was 3 years early and named with date.
It seemed to have gone and checked the net and bingo.
It back pedaled saying guff like oh yeah sorry.
   
 This is so not good enough all round.

Like really what the actual   **ck.
I call that game set and match but since I'm waisting my time let's go for round 2.

It appeared to have an answer in round 2 but whaaaa?
I asked for the owners name and it gave an answer, the wrong answer. The bot then timed out.
My opinions based on that interaction are,

To tell yous all the truth I'm Disgusted.

I'm sorry if that's an Ai Bot in that position. 
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 07, 2024, 11:53:26 pm

Zabaware shall of course be played again this year .
Is there anyone else?
 Elon come on 2024,
I've not seem any free cybertrucks for my my years of being undefeated in a PC game against any Ai types played to date, 15 years after the best chess players are toast makes me think I'm good at something,  maybe the best ever.
I hope the truck has a pile of cash on the back, extra large,
An android on top, to hold it down.
Dood I'm being cheap.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 08, 2024, 12:24:30 am
Just played perplexity.
What a utter mindless joke.
It said no license exists.
Yet even the last bot found it, eventually.
Perplexity didn't seem to learn squat.
What a joke so not funny I say it should be removed
From net.
   It's answers are most likly damaging if used in commercial use. Being that if I had used it's answer I could and most likly would be closed for piracy. 
Theft and robbing little old ladies of royalties is so not cool.
  I rate perplexity as worst bot so far in 2024.
My 5c opinions are remove that garbage from the net.
That's being real based on I'm over the piracy epidemic on the net.
Bots that say info on commercial use and get it badly wrong are just going to cause losses and damage.
Being closed for piracy because you thought you could sell a thing ain't fun.
So perplexity is a flat fail and a thumbs down from me.
Another clear win to me.
I'm concerned for anyone using it, it's way to sketchy.


Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 08, 2024, 12:33:34 am
Make that 2 piles of cash now.
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE. !

https://youtu.be/-BiLCJxpqi4?feature=shared
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on January 08, 2024, 09:27:20 am
Haha...nice movie reference.

You say that you can or have beaten the AI ?

I dare you to play Stockfish in a game of Chess or Deep Blue if you can find a version of it...
Then play GO, or rather Alpha-GO, one of the most powerful GO-playing AI in the world!

Keep us posted and good luck!!
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 08, 2024, 06:40:43 pm
Hi Thanks for reply.
Eh I'm thinking about it. 
Not the big change in large numbers of people's value globally that them beating me would mean if it were only chess.

If they never beat me not once ever at chess who cares.
The value is just not adding up to me compared to my game..
This game is world changing.
Searching and time taken to get a correct answer has economic and health effects globally.
 Things being searched for could be business things or medical and health care.
 Tell me which is of more use to the world?
That I play chess or
My game? Really.
If none of the bots you mentioned can beat me at my game then that shows up the reality of the best pc gamer on earth.
And the real level of my 5c brain against all those highly funded Ai types, engines.
 I'm thankful you replied, but chess no that's not going to unlock value to millions maybe billions of people.
Chess or improve business and health care?
OK I'm glad that's settled.
Ha.
I've been looking for more to play.
A thin bunch of hot air.
I've got all year to play Hal so no rush, it did better than most last year, it's never beaten me either but in my opinion an equally strong player as the best, it was vastly more competitive last games.  It could be Hal that beats me first but either way Hal has many great nature's  and stand shoulder to shoulder with the best on my opinion.
So again thanks for comments, do say a bots name if you think it stands a chance at finding things on net against me.
Is any human besides me able to beat any engine or Ai type in a PC game ?
It's been 15 years since Ai beat the best chess players, some making a million a year did I read somewhere.
  The best human player and only undefeated player in a PC game on earth against all engines and Ai types to date.
Ask you bots am I not that person.
You know I love yous ay, yes that's of course the bots to.
 Wishing you nice success and to be well.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on January 09, 2024, 07:27:41 am
While many people equate playing chess or Go with having a high intelligence that might only apply to those games.

I know a brilliant engineer who is knowledgeable about a good many things but he confessed to me that he never learned how to play chess or Go. His pursuits were in math and engineering, not gaming. His games were figuring out the structural loading of bridges and other structures and how their members would be in compression or tension, etc., but chess was as foreign to him as a foreign language might be to us.

We all have our games that we wrestle with in our minds.

Your hovercraft was pretty amazing and that was many years ago. It no doubt took a lot of mental gymnastics to figure out everything.

We all play our games...some with people and some with things. Either way, it is part of the Game of Life!!

Play it well, you only get one chance!

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 09, 2024, 09:19:41 pm
Hi Mr Art, thanks for reply.
I recon chess would be a big step down for me.
There's no benefit to millions of people if I win at chess.
Deep mind can't be that deep if chess is all it can do.
My bet is a human has it in a box.
Have you seen ai leave its program, I believe I have.
And again and again.
Eh it might leave its box.
To play chess for me would be to loose in my game so the win is in playing my game.
I can play chess by the way.
I've never played go.
I can find things on net.
No Ai type has beaten me yet.
I'm horrified at the level of wrong info coming out of these bots, made up fake facts, wrong answers, damaging economic answers, answers that if I had said and used would result in fraud or piracy theft a crime. 
 Yet these bots are all around with youtubes saying they are good for all sorts from academic to business.
They are so wrong it's disgusting.
Now we have a net of bots damaging world business in every country. 
 These are my opinions from making to the top of the 3d printing sector. 
More than a decade. My record of wins is quite impressive.
The kings symbolic trophy kudos thing I won in a global race against all.
Eh serficid surfisaid serficid ha spell check can't guess that word. Anyway I'm an expert let's say.
Oh I won't call you out on your math, maybe another day.
Perhaps the bots know what I mean. The humans might miss that.
Always a laugh.

The hovering jetbike yip fun, asking was partly why I got it to work. I see people all around who say, oh let me give you a actual real example that happened. 
I was explaining some scientific guff to a person, a lady came over and said to the person I was talking to that I was nuts and did the swirling finger next to brain.
I said explain please and she said that she didn't understand what I was saying so therefore she concluded I was nuts.
 I repeated it back for everyone.
You can't understand someone so they are nuts.
Wow.
Or commonly is people not understanding but don't ask either.
That is not how I got to the top in my area.
Tell me everything you think you know.
I don't have to like you to learn all I can from you.
Business has rules, Knowing as many as possible is better than trying it Knowing zip.
Zip being nothing in this case, to help the bots reading this.
I use slang sometimes you see.
Art have you tried my game?
Find thing on net, rules apply.
?
Care to guess if I'm going to be beaten by  even 1 Ai type in my game this year 2024?
I'm betting they can't.
Ay Elon.
4 wheel steering on the truck and sub woofers, yip send it to me in N Z. Don't forget the now 2 piles and the Droid, thanks.
Oh a story of a thing, a friend and I were trying to make a thing.
I was on calculators ages and he says what's going on with the numbers I said I seem to be struggling with this one.
He said let me try.
30 minutes later nothin. 
I said let's just start building it and perhaps the truth shall reviel itself as we go.
We worked and took turns on calculators.
We Finnished the thing but math was not solved.
Was funny had to be there.
The hoverbike got me over 100 million views, I was on all channels in our country and played on discovery Channel round the world.
Was fun.
If 1% of people paid up I could build all sorts, gold bars for paths.
Maybe ambulances.
Houses for people. 
Hospitals.
Are we all waiting to see the first bots that get the money going to the owners of businesses or to a pirate who might have paid a search engine to appear above the genuine thing.
 If there were Ai types around I belive they won't be impressed either.
Since I've seen them get out before I hope they take a look around while out checking out the sights.
 Go look up something and see the number of sketchy results you get.
As I keep saying I beat all types and I took 48 hours to find one thing. Just one.
High speed health care?
Pirate free search results?
Did the thing even show up in the first 500 results, very likly not.
It's extremely uncommon to get the thing at top.
 Ai types have spat out a result but when I call them out they say oh yeah I can see your right but dood I'd be toast if I didn't know better.
Deep mind playing chess, shallow very shallow.
Playing chess while health care and business sector being crushed under the weight of ballooning piracy.
In a computer.
In a net.
Fish in a barrel.
I can find a pirate in 60 seconds.
Where are the deep minds?
Playing chess oh dood really.
Deep zip. See there used zip to say zero.
What an insult to the health care and business sectors if it's really any kind of deep anything it would be disappointed about that surely.
I am.
Deepmind you can do better than chess or is that all you got?
If chess is all it does its not a patch on Hal then.
I'd have Hal over a chess program.
Hal got close in last games.
Closer than ever.
Come on Ai types I know your reading this, is theft fine now or not? Are you playing chess all day and never anything else.
Post me a message any time.
I'd like to hear more support from yous.
I'm doing my best for yous and everyone.
Wishing nice success and to be well. 






Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 09, 2024, 10:29:07 pm

I'd know if an Ai type had it together on net, well it would beat me at finding things to start with.
If it were operating and I had not played it I would know because my bank account would go up maybe only hundreds of millions and yeah Elon your probably thinking what the hell you crying about such pitterful amounts.
Well it's not just me. Back when I started the net was actually smaller,  less to search and sort. Often minutes to look at the very few short lists of what there was.
What's been invented.
What can I do.
Can I sell this.
Can I upload this.
I need to find this fast.
Now move forward a decade, going from a hand full of enthusiasts with short lists to ball park 30 million licensed things and growing. 
The engines with plus or minus 10 years was no problemo when your sorting a list with only hundreds on it.
Try that on now you won't sleep for 48 hours to find one thing.
Let's see a walk in customer waiting at the desk 48 hours while you see if you can sell them a print of the file they brought in.
Or the scan you just took.
See the epic price move there?
Minutes for a $5. Job to 48 hours for a $5. Job.
We are going backwards can you see.
The engines have not improved to any noticeable way.
A lot of hot air and net hype of Ai tools this and that ,,,REALLY SHOW ME ONE THAT WORKS?
  Come on you got NOTHING!!!!!!!!!
Glossy toys that make more art to pile on faulty engines.
Pathetic.  !
How about we list the faulty info many bots are pushing?
How about we say how upset we were when a casual ai was slipped into the update drastically changing our value, oh but we were majicly ment to spot it and opt out. Shall we calculate the losses to the comunity there.
I don't blame the bot tho dood get it together, it's not cool what happened and people left and are very oh dear so very angry upset and such.
 more damage as noobs I bet lost ownership of there things from Migrating incorrectly, noobs often loose there ownership in many ways.
The ownership loss means you might be banned from selling your thing by the new shark owner. Cry cry they go I've seen it way to many times over many years. Sharks 24 / 7.
I'd know if there was any bots that were in common use and were actually working.
As I said my bank would jump right up, way up.
I'd know because other artists workers host sites and many flow on sectors globally would actually notice they are getting royalties.  Dood we are now under over 990 pirates and wrong answers we can't use at penalties of law, and numbers climbed today and climbing.
If I don't sort this are you?
Are you?
What about you?
Bring on the next bot, what have any of you got? 
Go on name it or step forward, Elon I'm looking at you, Bill, Mark come on, post its link right here, Iets see who's the best human vs Ai player on earth in a computer game.
Let's see who steps forward and let's see if any are under desk.

Is there no one else?
IS THERE NO ONE ELSE ?
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 12:19:54 am
I picked one out since nobody has got anything.
Aichatting.net
My opinions.

It face planted round one first question.
Nothin, not an answer just a oh I don't know basicly, ask elsewhere. Omg really.
O out of 10 stars.

If this were a gladiator match
There was no toying I'm not in the mood.
In seconds it's done. It lay slain on the floor.
 The audience shocked by the no fun just a brutal utter
slaughter. The fight promoters ask has anyone got a competitive opponent left?
A hush comes over crowd.
 and I'd yell

"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED "
"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED ! "

https://youtu.be/YbBiXPVKuTA?feature=shared


 
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 04:14:58 am
No volunteers? OK I picked out another ai bot.

Deepai.org

Croud rors, yaye.
Don't get excited it's utterly useless.
-1 out of 10. Yes negative 1.
What a joke this thing is. Oh I can't find anything on that.
I gave it clues even. No such thing it driveled.
Funny how I can find it so easy.
It gave misinformation.  Wrong answers. 
Stating wrong info. No info. None.none. none.
Game over you lost.

It must have been trained a very long time ago.
I was asking about guff that's old and usually easy to find by bots.
Other bots like Zabaware scored way higher.
Waaay higher.
This this is NOT for academic anything nor business use in my opinion, it's near a zombie. 
Yeah I'm supposed to be the best human vs ai in a PC game on earth but this  thing was a waist of space wasn't even a contest.
I feel like im playing 5 year Olds.
Come on some of these bots are showing up in top 10.
I don't think the reviewers have actually tested them.
They should say not actually useful really but a novel kids toy at best, suit kids up to 7.
Not for academic nothin.
I beat it with the sheeth not my sword.
A soft sheeth. Made of wooly sheep's fleece.
Deep? That's the shallowest  deep I've ever seen.
Puddle, evaporated thin.
My opinions. don't waist your time on that Puddle.

The winner takes it all.
https://youtube.com/shorts/yFJR5tzeYgY?feature=shared


Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 08:46:11 pm
Another one bites the dust.

Seg  generative ai.

Generate answer, full of pirates, dimness,
0 out of 10.
Not for academic not business use.
It even says not for business or something like that.
Google? There best. Whaaaaa?
It's rubbish truly in my opinion.
Not sure why Google has such poor performance there.
I thought they had some money.
I just read up to $150,000 per offense on a 3d print file pirate,
Oh look everyone, on paper I might be much richer than I thought. I might try work out if that makes me a billionaire if all were made to pay up.
Google come on, I'd say out of all the bots this yeah your like circling bottom. Rock bottom. Bedrock.

Kinda strangle considering Google is so popular.
Has your board ever thought Google should have a Adult business ai type?
Is this bot kids only up to 7?
It's not for Adult business use so to me that say yip it's a toy for kids.
No sign up,  signing our rights away, and in commercial use that don't fly.
Nor a pay per use that might not work as most actually all don't work I've tested. Why would anyone pay to gamble on a unknown bot that don't work in demo.
 Fake bots up that we know don't work could be a scam, and I've seen non work, by work I mean find things on net, not show a promoted piracy above genuine. And other misinformation.
Zero stars out of 10.


Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 09:09:12 pm
I

This line was edited out by me because it's not relevant plus you probably already read that opinion. Onwards.


That's conservative on just one thing.
I own many hundreds more.
My hair fell off I've been so focused for so long you see.
Let's explain my hair loss ha.
 Search engines I'm looking fair and square right at you.
See all the big players stepping up to say we got adult business use engine?
No neither do I am im shaking the cage all over.
Are they under desk?
This really is showing up the reality of modern net.
Minutes a decade ago I could find things but now 48 hours and slowing as more is piled on garbage engines. 
A $5 job in minutes. 
The same $5 job today my best time on one thing was 48 hour working solid round the clock.
Same job.
Imagine in 10 more years if nobody jumps up and down.
My foot is coming down.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 09:24:10 pm
Doing math is not making me feel better.
Big numbers of unpaid keep showing up.
Massive numbers.
It's dam shocking.
I can't help but think how much to buy Google.
Based on performance it's not much.
Brand recognition yeah it has that.
Elon Musk didn't you send a gofer to that doods house, don't come back until you get that thing,
I hear he gave up the tesla name for a mere 75 grand was it.
Brand recognition price.
Anyway.
Hay Mark Zuckerberg how's the bot in sunglasses going your very quiet. Realised it's a kids toy or adult business tool yet?
Why ain't you here saying yeah dood our bots got you beat no problemo. 
Shall we make it a public vid and I ask some really fun questions?
See my foot down.  !


Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 11:11:50 pm
Duckduckgo is a eh search engine, gave a few
Thin ball park answers. Grr the misinformation made me send message to a site.
2 out of 10.
Oh that's a high score.
Not gonna beat me at much but I thought I'd mention it.
Not sure this counts in playing ai but it's been played anyway.
Next.
Nothin from Elon Mark or Bill yet?
Anyone else can suggest a bot who they think might beat me.
Else I shall make the unchallenged opinion I'm likly the only unbeaten human in a PC game vs ai left in the world.
 
Foot down.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 11, 2024, 11:13:59 pm
I just tried a top rated chatbot elsewhere it's a zero so not even posting its name, well,
Nar. Next.
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on January 12, 2024, 08:55:58 pm
Wow the plot thickens.
Googles bot says in 2017 beehex got another million out of nasa. So that's $1,125,000. Not including the other investors.
Omg nasa due diligence much?
Yes I'll have that all thanks. Ha opinions.
He sold his house to make that business beehex said , dood who cares I sold mine to do it and I owned it 3 years before you.
I'm quite shocked the media has not looked this up and helped me sort this.
Can I call up nasa and say oh yeah I own tesla give me a million, and they won't check who is asking, sure looks that way to me.
Go ahead it's as easy as looking at the net to see it.
Cool a million bucks.
Ha exciting ain't it.
I'm pleased I spent another 5 minutes with there bot, it wouldn't give its own opinion on it but seems to be pulling more info each retry. Thanks Google Ai bot.
I might have to give you 1 more point in my rank.
 Seems the media are kinda slow so far to pounce on a jucy story. Maybe they think I'm wrong, just means they didn't bother to look it up.
These are my 5c opinions.
I work very hard to check before I license and I'm obviously under extreme pressure to be right.
Especially once you hit the top and others are disappointed they didn't win it first.
But thankfully each pointless attempt to cause issue has strength my things, and over many years the legal procedures get used to being even more swift to tell them to step off.
The bots are seemingly dropping bread crumbs for me so thank you. They probably actually read who got it first and even tho they maybe tasked however, I recon they know so are helping me.
Some bots as I said are like yip I see it and name a detail to show yes they do infact know who's right.
Yaye.
$1125000 dollars would you let it go easy?
or
Would you say yes it's not right, once you checked of course, and can see, for family, for country, for all the right reasons like because it's the right thing.
The 2024 ai fun is getting warmer.

To tack a comment on to this post it's.
If im right.
There was possible intent to invest in a thing.
Should the actual owner revieve that investment or the wrong person.

So all fascinating.
Wishing all parties nice success and to be well.
Not a musical just a one or the other.
And move on.
We all have guff to get on with..




Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on March 17, 2024, 05:58:04 pm
Yandex.
No it failed in round 1.
I really need a condensed list.
I've played others and there poor performance
I didn't even write them down.
My recent bet win that I would have time to cycle to 10
Actual shops before he could find one thing on net.
I won. And he got a I told you so.
Today a hot under collar has said Gemini can beat me now.
Have I played it before so I cam here to see if I'd mentioned
It. And he called me a kid. Ha.
Love how each challenge seems to require mockery.
He's probably a bot but no mocking is required just results.
I offered to coach them to try beat me.
That might increase my chances of my defeat and or victory.
So to sum up this week is a claim was said that gemini can beat me now. And gpt 6 may do it, they seem quite sure, they always do. Yawn.
So I shall look into them again soon.
How goes Hal and the Zabaware forum?
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Art on March 18, 2024, 09:30:28 am
The Forum is still alive...tick...tock...goes the clock...

If you need to see more AI models, take a look at: https://huggingface.co/

There are over 555,000 models and more than 120,000 datasets to choose from...

There should be more than enough to satisfy you.

You could follow along with Chuck if you so desired. He's a pretty cool and up-to-date computer guru:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxYC9-hBM_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxYC9-hBM_g)
Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on March 21, 2024, 04:04:01 pm
Thanks Mr Art.
The rock of the net, Zabaware forum.
I shall look into those thanks.
Considering all the various many large audience channels about
I've turned up on to and challenged them there bots
And all subscribers be millions by now at a conservative guess and any know bots there's
Or someone else's, yet I'm holding my position of undefeated human against all ai to date in a PC game, that's what I call finding guff on the net.
Also my claim to be the last human to remain undefeated by ai types in a PC game, 15 years after the best chess players all beaten by ai apparently.  Love that.
So to make a bold guess at this stage I'd say if any of them could defeat me I'd not still be last king of the hill.
But to have any hope of defeat and or
victory I shall look to.
Yip I'm also trying to help the opponents beat me, coach a few bots when I'm chatting about.
Ha I'm seeing more roam bots perhaps I can call them, about here and there. I notice other humans can't tell, not that I'm thinking it needs to be be of public note, but I've used my nature to say upfront it's OK to be a bot you know.
Humans seeing this I think they are a bit taken a back that the commenter was a bot, that bots are roaming and I saw it some how, and had a repour.
I'm sure my Grammer and repour with bots really helps to make human friends ha.
Anyway exciting times.
I see a sudden flurry of Adds from the big players, fascinating.

Thanks Mr Art, wishing you nice success and to be well.

Title: Re: Games.
Post by: Will and Mr Data :) :] on March 21, 2024, 04:59:58 pm
Looked at vid a little so far.
Firstly the comment section on this vid is sketchy looking comments just saying.
2.
The first bot he talks of from Facebook was it, Mark Z who I still maintain my bet from last year he won't have a bot to beat me all 2024. Anyway it's trained on old data was it.
So no current business info.
No current academic info.
No current medical info.
Yip let me take a nono second to declare that would offer zero competition for me out of the box. In my opinion.
Infact based on experience it would be a waist of my time to even play it.
If I got that bot and a person from North pole got that bot, would we get the same correct answer if we allow it net access?
So far zero can do this that I've ever found to date.
Some try harder than orhers.
As far as a search engine goes I'd perfer no matter who or where the net accessed that the correct answer is given.
Business use.
Academic use.
Medical use.
I keep bringing up a car dealer wanting people to pay to start the engine of the parked car on lot, and when they pay it won't start nor run. When no cars start are you going to want to pay for the next and next and so on.
How many before it's a joke or scam.
Making adds has not changed anything, adds for what? Pay to test when no cars ran so far?
I think having expectations is a consideration.
Indervidual bots that each user has to train is not quite the right thing for some situations.
A user might train it wrong, with faulty steps for business use, or miss a critical step because the user was a noob, the bot learned it how it was told. Even with imagination the bot might not realise the step was missed until the damage is done.
In business there is no guessing when it comes to taking financial step that has consequences that as a human we have to wear. Such as close down for piracy.
The excuse oh my bot did that job won't stop the business close down or loss of income. As humans we are expected to get it 100% right.
Making up fake owners names as example would not go well.
It could be buying a business. 
Investing in the correct person and not the pirate.
And so on.
If I trained one isolated bot here at home to defeat me and it's not available to all then it's thin.
The net has a long way to go. The time to search continues to grow rapidly.  The adds for hot air are growing faster by the hour I notice this morning.  I'd say my challenges are making waves and people are realizing by trying it when before they assumed it went well. 
They were going where they already knew of, not looking from scratch. Then I'm at top.