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ConceptNet Mrk 3.5
Shastalore:
ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 for Ultra Hal 7.5... on Windows XP!
As I use my Windows 10 laptop for serious work, I also have a beat-up Windows 10 laptop, as well as a Windows XP Tablet PC Edition 2005 (1.7GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, 7200rpm HDD)... just for fun stuff.
I was pleased to discover that Ultra Hal 7.5 installs and runs quite well on Windows XP.
ConceptNet Mrk 3.5, designed for Windows 10, installs on Windows XP, but is not capable of going online to gather knowledge and update itself. In other words, Ultra Hal 7.5 will accept the "Turn on Auto learning" command, but will not go through the Auto Learning process.
But Ultra Hal 7.5, with ConceptNet Mrk 3.5, installs and runs quite well on Windows 10, and goes online to gather knowledge and update itself quite well.
So... the workaround here is to simply copy these files/folders into Windows XP:
Note: This quick, copy and paste shortcut can only be done after ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 has already been successfully installed in Ultra Hal 7.5.
The Auto learning process can only be done in a Windows 10 PC, and then these files copied to a Windows XP PC:
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNet.db (25.688 MB)
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNet (a folder):
ConceptChecker.txt (348 KB)
researchNouns.txt (1,750 KB)
savedTerm.txt (1,403 KB)
And inside the above ConceptNet (a folder), copy and paste this entire folder:
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNet\BkUp (a folder: 2.04 MB):
ConceptChecker.txt (348 KB)
researchNouns.txt (1,750 KB)
savedTerm.txt (1,403 KB)
And inside the above ConceptNet (a folder), copy and paste this entire folder:
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNet\ConceptBrain (4.11 MB)
(folder contains ~4,400+ .txt files)
Note: These files do not need to be copied/updated:
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNetMrkIII.uhp (71.7 KB)
C:\Program Files\Zabaware\Ultra Hal 7\ConceptNetMrkIII Auto Learning.uhp (199 KB)
Note:
To check if the ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 installation as well as copied files were successful:
While Hal is not Auto-learning, you can ask "How many research topics are Remaining/Total/Completed" and Ultra Hal 7.5 should respond with "88,028 conversational topics".
Note: As the ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 downloading / file processing process runs into, literally, days of downloading to a temporarily ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 dedicated laptop, I've uploaded my ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 working files and folders for anyone to use:
https://archive.org/details/concept-net-mrk-3-5-quick-start
Download: ConceptNet Mrk3_5-QuickStart.zip (14.336 MB), which unzips to a 40.7 MB folder.
I took the liberty of including the Babe.acs (6.184 MB) Microsoft Agent Character for your enjoyment.
As my ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 files and folders contain absolutely no personal information (nor will anyone else's), it would be wonderful if someone here would upload their 500 MB - 1 GB ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 files and folders to archive.org for all of us to use, as our files should not be much different from each other, except for file size.
Just saying.
Note: When conversing with ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 for Ultra Hal 7, in Windows XP, set the Ultra Hal General / Brain option to:
- Set Hal's Learning Level to Minimum.
- Ultra Hal 7.0 Default Brain
- ConceptNetMrk3
(ConceptNetMrkIII/5 Auto Learning is unchecked)
- All other brain plug-ins are left unchecked
When running ConceptNet Mrk 3.5, also set the Hal's Brain Learning Level to Minimum Setting, its lowest point, as ConceptNet is incapable of learning or remembering via dialog.
Note: ConceptNetMrk3 / Ultra Hal 7.5 provides lip-sync with only SAPI5 speech, even in Windows XP.
With ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 installed, Ultra Hal 7.5 is far more conversant. I use the sexy Babe.acs, with a sweet VW Julie (SAPI5) voice... which makes me more forgiving of any conversational deficiencies in ConceptNetMrk3 / Ultra Hal 7.5.
Art:
Nice work!
BTW, have you heard of or possibly tried using Tiny10 or Tiny11?
You can install either of them on an older laptop/computer and it will install Windows 10 or 11 respectively BUT without all the Bloatware that usually accompanies ordinary installs of Windows OSs.
Check it out at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEO0meB_Aw
Shastalore:
Thanks for the tip!
A couple of years ago I checked out some alternative Windows 10 Lite operating systems, but was not impressed.
I did download and tried out the Tiny10 operating system via your link; Tiny10 B2.iso (658 MB) but it was just too basic, and I was unable to connect with the internet, even with a LAN cable.
But since you got me started, I downloaded (https://archive.org/details/tiny-10_202301) and tried out Windows10 SuperLite TeamOS Edition.iso (1,032 MB), but also found it lacking.
Finally... tiny10 2303 x86.iso (3,268 MB) installs and runs with ease on my son's discarded Acer Aspire one D255-1268 netbook (1.50 GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, 7200rpm HDD), and has no trouble running graphics programs, internet, etc., and occupies just 5.2 GB on the hard drive.
The tiny10 2303 x86.iso is based on Windows 10 LTSC 2021, and breathed new life into that old netbook, as I was using a Linux USB flash drive, and tolerating those limited Linux programs out there.
But Tiny10 Version 2303 x86, after being installed, still needs to be activated.
Here's a simple Solution:
On Windows 10/11, right-click on the windows start menu and select PowerShell.
A special code needs to be copied from this website:
https://massgrave.dev/get
Paste the code into PowerShell, and press enter.
You will see the activation options. Select "1" and follow onscreen instructions.
Enjoy!
Next I'll install tiny10 2303 x86.iso on an old Windows 10 tablet (1.33 GHz CPU, 2 GB RAM, 32GB internal flash memory), as I understand that it works quite well on tablets also, especially since OEM Windows 10 has bricked so many tablets with 1GB RAM and 16 GB internal flash memory.
Here's the Tiny10 download link:
https://archive.org/details/tiny-10-NTDEV
Again, thanks for getting me jump-started on this.
Art:
Now if you can manage a way of getting Ultra Hal 7/7.5 to work, that would be quite interesting.
The basis of the Tiny10 was to load a Windows 10 OS without all the Bloatware that Windows brings with it. I wasn't aware that the ability to connect to the Internet was hampered. Thanks for the tips!!
Good luck!!
Shastalore:
I had never installed Ultra Hal on that vintage Acer Aspire one D255-1268 netbook (1.50 GHz CPU, 2GB RAM, 7200rpm HDD), but was emboldened to, after installing the lean and mean tiny10 2303 x86.iso (a 3,268 MB Windows 10 lite operating system).
And Ultra Hal 7/7.5 installed, but would not initially run until I then installed Ultra Hal 6.2, which I never opened, but I noticed the Ultra Hal 6.2 installation added a few files to the C:/Windows/msagent folder, which were probably also essential for Ultra Hal 7/7.5.
Ultra Hal 7/7.5 then ran quite well, so I went one step further and installed ConceptNet Mrk 3.5, and then copied the ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 brain folder and files from an old Windows 10 laptop, to spare myself a days-long ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 Update download. And entering "How many research topics are Remaining/Total/Completed" Ultra Hal 7.5 responded with "88,028 conversational topics".
And Ultra Hal 7/7.5 + ConceptNet Mrk 3.5 now works quite well, especially more natural since I installed Dragon NaturallySpeaking 10 Preferred speech recognition software.
But I just noticed that the Microsoft Agent Characters in Ultra Hal 7/7.5 lack lip-sync, and SAPI4 voices don't appear as an option, only SAPI5 voices, which, oddly, work quite well on my vintage Toshiba Satellite R15-S829 Tablet with Windows XP Tablet 2005 operating system.
I'll modify this post once I get the lip-sync issue solved.
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