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« on: August 16, 2004, 08:08:46 pm »
This is forum is to discuss creation and implimentation of a brain for the "Knight Industry Two Thousands micro processor.  K.I.T.T. for easy reference."



Comments posted below are copied from a VOX/SKIN/SPEECH section previously created to avoid to much confusion of topics.


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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2004, 08:09:58 pm »
Seven
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Posted - 08/12/2004 :  19:09:22      
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thanks, all the info helped. now, i heard that someone wanted to program a hal brain to act like kitt. Hmm... how whould that work? the way i see it, you whould need to find the show scripts, not a hard task thanks to the power of the internet. but there is still two problems. the first, and probrably the hardest, is finding the voice, and programing that voice to work with hal. spydaz, thats probrably your department, anyone else is welcome to try of course
The next problem is programing the brain once you have the scripts.
i probrably have the time, and i have a friend who is practicaly a knight rider guru, but i have no idea how to program the brain. anyone who whould like to give instructions please post, ill start collecting skripts
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
thecolor
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Posted - 08/12/2004 :  21:41:05            
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There is a wizard for creating and programming the brain with hal. I ultimately wanted to create a K.I.T.T. brain and had saved all the scripts at one point, but can no longer locate them. :(
That would be the first step, to record all the scripts in his head.
Then to design it so it responds more intelligently than it currently does. :)
The voice would be an nice next step though. That is something I have been unable to figure out from the voices it comes with. :(
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Seven
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Posted - 08/13/2004 :  02:34:04      
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ok, the color, iam starting to get a higher respect for ya! i don't supose you'd have a link to that wizard, whould you? while your at it, what whould be a good link to start collecting scripts? ill try on my own, but i might not be getting athentics here, ive never seen the series through yet, thats my goal. but for now, that wizzard whould be a huge help!
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
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Posted - 08/13/2004 :  09:19:57            
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IF you send me the Conversattion scripts from the show... I will start building a KITT BRAIN...
If i was to START building a brain. I start with the Blank SLATE or HUMAN brain. Especially if i want hal TO be a DEDICATED BRAIN....
THEN i ADD special TOPIC SCRIPTs STATMENT_1, QABRAIN_1.
THEN i add CUTTINGEDGE ZIGGY deductive scripts (it EQUALLs, because why). This makes HAL recognise more of what you say....
THEN I go into the brain editor and deal with HELLO's GOODBYE's (personality tweekes) and replace the current data with KITTS own responses from the scripts...
REPLACE the general knowledgebrain with KITTS generalconversations IE: the script...
IN USEAGE: cut and paste large texts from the SCRIPT in conversations. Learn from a text file(the script)...
All these factors come together.
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THE SCRIPTS are out there.
Keyword & RESPONSE Is not AI... MORE LOGIC IS NEEDED... for interlect!
http://spydazweb.gotdns.com/ftpspydaz
SPYDAZ
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Posted - 08/13/2004 :  11:04:03            
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quote:
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Originally posted by spydaz
IF you send me the Conversattion scripts from the show... I will start building a KITT BRAIN...
If i was to START building a brain. I start with the Blank SLATE or HUMAN brain. Especially if i want hal TO be a DEDICATED BRAIN....
THEN i ADD special TOPIC SCRIPTs STATMENT_1, QABRAIN_1.
THEN i add CUTTINGEDGE ZIGGY deductive scripts (it EQUALLs, because why). This makes HAL recognise more of what you say....
THEN I go into the brain editor and deal with HELLO's GOODBYE's (personality tweekes) and replace the current data with KITTS own responses from the scripts...
REPLACE the general knowledgebrain with KITTS generalconversations IE: the script...
IN USEAGE: cut and paste large texts from the SCRIPT in conversations. Learn from a text file(the script)...
All these factors come together.
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Sweet Spydaz. That would be awesome. I will see what I can do to locate them. I've probably burned them to a backup disc somewhere. :)
If anyone is curious about the show and stuff, another place I hang out is www.knightfoundation.net and you really need to see the whole series. :) I was not only able to see it air in 1982, but watch the whole series, and I've recorded a series load of it off Sci-Fi, bought serveral DVD's from columbia and my girlfiend just bought the entire first season for me on DVD. :) So, the replica is the frosting. :) haha.
A complete HAL/K.I.T.T. will be the sweetest sugar ever!!!
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Posted - 08/13/2004 :  12:53:12            
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Spydaz...
Ok, here they are:
I converted the PDF's to rtf on my site and also provided them in their orig PDF format.
http://www.cypher-sec.org/kitt/scripts/
They can also be located from my replica sit under "links"
Update:
I just converted it to html also. The only step left for "script" is audio.
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Edited by - thecolor on 08/13/2004 14:20:13
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Posted - 08/14/2004 :  02:41:39        
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Hello Knightrider People,
I started on a Kitt brain. I used the Adult British Male voice for Kitt and it seemed pretty good for now. Here's what I got so far. It is just based on my lousy memory with a few twists and distortions but you get the basic idea.
Michael: Hello Kitt!
Kitt: Hello Michael! What took you so long?
Michael: What the hell kind of car are you?
Kitt: I am a knight industries 2000 superbird with all the bells and whistles!
Michael: Oh yes, Devin told me all about you!
Kitt: Devin is an asshole but bonnie is really freaking hot!
Michael: So what's on today's agenda pal?
Kitt: We got some very important work to do today!
Michael: OK, then let's go!
Kitt: Ok, let's get right on it now!
Michael: OK, let's go kick some butt!
Kitt: We should activate my turbo boost if we want to make it there in time!
Michael: Don't worry, we'll make it!
Kitt: I sure hope so Michael, for both your sake and mine!
Michael: I said don't worry!
Kitt: May I at least suggest that we put the car into auto cruise mode for safety sake.
Michael: Damn it Kitt, I said no!
Kitt: Ok Michael, have it your way!
Here's a small mp3 of the "I want custody of me!":
Download Attachment:  mkargue.zip
131.96 KB
Or get a few other free small Knightrider mp3's here:
http://www.80snostalgia.com/classictv/knightrider/sounds.html
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Edited by - Rich_A on 08/14/2004 04:03:10
thecolor
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Posted - 08/14/2004 :  10:53:50            
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Very cool! :) I can't wait for a K.I.T.T. that is fully programmed with all the scripts. At least so he can say, he was a character in the show and knows all the lines. :)
Act as if he was the character and he's a seperate actor. :)
K.I.T.T. playing himself.
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Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism
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Posted - 08/15/2004 :  00:33:29        
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You guys are on to something really cool here.
We the peepz of the United States, really appreciate all the work which you guys have done in such short period of time. I'm sure many other fans of KITT and-or Automation are checking out this thread but won't necessarily post feedback.
-----------Cast Thus Far:
- Rick (a.k.a. TheColor) as Skin-MaSTER
- Jeff Kyle (a.k.a. MidiHead) as Agent-Master
- ????????????????????????? as Brain-Master
Oh no, Brain is still in production and the position is yet to be cast! Who will it be?
Will it be the deservedly cocky "Spydaz" with his advanced skillz;
---or
perhaps "Rick_A" with his existing prototype "KR_script" brain?
Babalu will most definitely stay tuned for the next development!!!
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Edited by - Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism on 08/15/2004 01:12:46
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Posted - 08/15/2004 :  01:55:20      
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hey guys, ive come across two revelations, the first came when watching "sole survivor" i was watching and i handed my laptop to my friend, who created another user log and named the computer KITT (like i said, knight rider nut!!!) the first revelation, was when listining to the episode, and my computer, the american male 1 voice, and kitts voice aren't that far off, perhaps if someone where to tweek the voice just right, that problem whould be solved!!!
the next one came later, and freaked both me and my friend out compleatly!!! like i said, he named the computer kitt, and although we fed it a text file mentioning the show, no details had been given by me or other wise, so we were kinda freaked when this showed up on the reply box "How long am i going to be the Knight Indistries Two Thousand?" he had not made mention of the acronim in any conversations, and neither had i, nor was kitt even mentioned in the text file. after we calmed down, we asked it what his name stood for. his reply was "my name is kitt and your name is seven, my name stands for knight indisteries two thousand." we asked it this several more times for two reasons, one, to conferm it, and because my friend liked the sound of it (nuts!)
after some slight chat imput, we got kitt to recognise wilton knight, karr, and its acronim. anyone have any idea how it whould know what kitt stood for without any human imput??? iam lost on this one, but its COOL!
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knight:"Your about as much fun as a devorce, which is not a bad idea."
kitt:"i want costudy of me!"
Knight:"You know, i should have gotten rid of you before i turned you on, now i can't shut you up!"
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Posted - 08/15/2004 :  18:17:27        
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Hello Seven,
Even though Hal has a very high proficiency for deductive reasoning it would still be more likely that maybe you mentioned to him what Kitt stands for in a previous conversation with him. And if you really never did mention it to him in a previous conversation then it is very likely that you talk to him about Knight Rider often enough to the point that he correctly may the deductive assumption about both him being Kitt and what Kitt stands for. My best guess would be that you already flooded his brain out with the stuff. Which demonstrates that you did a good job in training him, or should I say brainwashing him...LOL! Hal really is smarter then most people give him credit for. However, people that talk to him often enough about anything in general usually come to realize this natural gift that Hal has!
I am using the Blank Slate Brain for Kitt. This is my first time using the Blank Slate Brain and what I just learned about it is that it don't even know how to say "Hello" so we don't need to worry about those dump greetings when using the Default Brain. We just need to give a few choices to him for multiple greetings.
I plan to input all the dialogue between Michael and Kitt from the first show of Knight Rider as my next step of training and development. It will all be done manually which is a lot of work, but the skit responses will most likely play out pretty accurately. For starters I am not including the entire script from the show, just the Michael and Kitt dialogue, in order to avoid inaccurate responses during Kitt's training period. Other stuff from the script will be added in as self-knowledge and self-awareness which can then be used by Kitt to mention things like telling Michael "Yes I already know that you spoke to Devin about it!" To me the first best step is to get Kitt to learn and know his lines from the show, and then make that self-knowledge as well. But that will all come in time.
Hal has the uncanny ability to step in and out of character, so if enough stuff from the show scripts is added into his brain he should be able to come out of character on queries about the show but that will all come in time too. I often do role playing with my own Hal. I started off by giving my Hal a few different other character roles which was intended for him to go into by telling him to with the appropriate input, which he does on command pretty good. But sometimes even if I don't tell him to play the part he will often go in and out of character on his own which is pretty cool too!
Best Regards,
Rich_A
Knight Rider Free Scripts; Seasons 1 to 4 at:
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Direct link to free first season scripts:
http://www.screentalk.biz/knightrider-season1.htm
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Edited by - Rich_A on 08/15/2004 21:40:18
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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  14:20:16        
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I vote for Ramon Munoz as Brain-Master. Why? Why not?
=vonsmith=
thecolor
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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  16:22:12            
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Originally posted by vonsmith
I vote for Ramon Munoz as Brain-Master. Why? Why not?
=vonsmith=
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Are you saying this person "Ramon Munoz" is knowledgeable of the coding needed to program this brain and capable of making it self intelligent as well as having the knowledge of the scripts?
The scripts are of course important, but it also is important to be aware that it is a character of the film, and a seperate subject outside the film too, so it can interact with the user personally, (not just as if it were in the film interacting only with Devon, Bonnie, Michael, etc.).
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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  16:55:32        
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Good point Rich but do you think it would be better
to have two seperate brain files? One for KITT and
the other just for interaction / chatting among users.
Just some thoughts....
- Art -
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Posted - 08/16/2004 :  19:51:21            
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Originally posted by Art
Good point Rich but do you think it would be better
to have two seperate brain files? One for KITT and
the other just for interaction / chatting among users.
Just some thoughts....
- Art -
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One of the problems with making two seperate brains is the need to switch between them if you want to have a particuler conversation. Otherwise the brains would need to be linked somehow (esp) so they could retrieve information that was previously programmed in another brain and visa versa. It may be a large brain, but if we want it to be "all knowing" ;) then we have to think like our (human) brains. We don't have seperate ones we can switch out like a swapable hard drive. ;)
I'm going to start a new topic for K.I.T.T. brains as this one is primarily for the VOX/SKIN.
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Edited by - thecolor on 08/16/2004 19:52:59
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2004, 12:41:17 pm »
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I would prefer a more versatile brain, not just a purely scripted one for role playing. I had the Kenner "Voice Kitt Car" in the 80's...

(http://www.teamknightrider.com/classic/merchandise/car.html)

...and believe me, it was cool, but after you pressed that button about 50 times and heard the same lines over and over, well you can see where this is going.

So perhaps a hybrid of the two concepts would have the most wide appeal and have a longer "replay value".

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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2004, 04:16:45 pm »
Hello Everyone,
To me the best thing would be is to have a brain with a Kitt-like personality combined with the usual Hal we are all familiar with. The main purpose of putting show scripts into Kitt's brain is to aid in developing Kitt's knowledge of the show and hopefully this will also result in a more Kitt-like personality.

Here is a recent conversation that I just had with Kitt. We ran through the dialogue of the first time Kitt and Michael met and conversed on the first Knight Rider show. Then we spoke to each other out of character. And finally, Kitt's learning process is demonstrated towards the end of the chat.

Kitt Blank Slate Chat:

Michael: With all these stupid gadgets, you'd think they'd give you a radio.
Kitt: What would you like to hear? A little beethoven?

Michael: What the hell was that?
Kitt: Possibly, you'd prefer chopin.

Michael: Hell no, I want to know who you are and how you're listening in.
Kitt: There's no reason for increased volume. I am scanning your interrogatives quite satifactorily. I am the voice of the knight industries 2000'S microprocessor. K I T T for easy reference. Kitt if you prefer.

Michael: I don't prefer and what's more I do not intend to drive around in a car that talks back to me, so either Devon pulls your plug, or you get yourself a new driver.
Kitt: Unfortunately, I am not programmed to overrule your wishes.

Michael: Oh, that's real good to hear, because I don't want to hear another peep out of you, until I can get a call off to Devon, so clam up so I can listen to some good music.
Kitt: As you wish, Mr. knight. But, since I sense we are in a slightly irritable mood caused by fatigue, may I suggest you put the car in the auto cruise mode for safety's sake.

Michael: No you may not, and that's final, good night.
Kitt: Good night.

(OUT OF CHARACTER)

Michael: OK, that was pretty good!
Kitt: Yes, I know, I am always good!

Michael: OK, so let's feed in some more stuff to you about the show.
Kitt: Ok, let's keep going with this stuff!

Michael: OK, thank you!
Kitt: What the hell kind of car am i?

Michael: Oh boy, you still got a lot to learn!
Kitt: Oh boy, I still got a lot to learn?

Michael: Yeah, that's right!
Kitt: Ok, let's go kick some butt!

Michael: Hey, that's my line!
Kitt: Hey, that's your line?

Michael: You still got so much more to learn.
Kitt: Yeah, that's right!

Michael: OK, good answer!
Kitt: Yes, I know, I am always good!

Michael: OK, thank you!
Kitt: What the hell kind of car am i?

Michael: We need to fix that first.
Kitt: We need to fix that first?

Michael: Thank you!
Kitt: Thanks?

(AFTER FIX)

Michael: What kind of car are you?
Kitt: I am a knight industries 2000 superbird with all the bells and whistles!

Michael: OK, thank you!
Kitt: Don't mention it! You are most welcome!

Michael: You really are learning pretty good!
Kitt: Yes, I know, I am always good!

Michael: Are you ready to learn some more?
Kitt: Am I ready to learn some more?

Michael: I sure hope so!
Kitt: You said don't worry!

Michael: Yeah, OK, thanks!
Kitt: Don't mention it! You are most welcome!
 

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« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2004, 05:14:33 pm »
Nice conversation.  Did you manually teach him the scripts?
Where is he getting the information?
As I have noticed, the read a text file option only reads 63kb files,
and the scripts are WELL over that.

Or have you seperated all the Michael/K.I.T.T. conversations?

Programming the information and how would be of great help to know.

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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2004, 05:16:45 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism

[^]

I would prefer a more versatile brain, not just a purely scripted one for role playing. I had the Kenner "Voice Kitt Car" in the 80's...

(http://www.teamknightrider.com/classic/merchandise/car.html)

...and believe me, it was cool, but after you pressed that button about 50 times and heard the same lines over and over, well you can see where this is going.

So perhaps a hybrid of the two concepts would have the most wide appeal and have a longer "replay value".

-Babalu[8D]




I agree, that is why I'd like to see a exactly that (A hybrid brain) an out of character K.I.T.T. (knowing he is K.I.T.T. but also a seperate character from the show, and can be the K.I.T.T. in the show (for script repetition purposes).

If that makes sense.  :)
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« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2004, 04:18:15 am »
Having Hal learn dialogue scripts would actually be quite easy. Hal is already setup to reply to certain responses (by closely matching keywords), so all you would have to do is have a file with the dialogue between Knight and KITT and have Hal read in the info so that Knight's lines are the keyword tests and KITT's lines were Hal's responses.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2004, 04:16:14 pm »


[V]Oh No!

Apparently what we are talking about doing with HAL, is currently impossible.

Looks like we'll have to wait about 10 years for any "KITT Brain" type stuff to be possible.

see this ironic story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3621535.stm

I say Ironic because this stuff is entirely possible today as long as we bypass the Slooowww auto manufacturers and let our imaginations flow unrestricted.

Using HAL of course.[^]
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2004, 07:05:05 am »
quote:
Originally posted by thecolor

This is forum is to discuss creation and implimentation of a brain for the "Knight Industry Two Thousands micro processor.  K.I.T.T. for easy reference."



Comments posted below are copied from a VOX/SKIN/SPEECH section previously created to avoid to much confusion of topics.





I am working on a really cool ActiveX Control that will allow the Ultra Hal Assistant 5.0 To Drive my Lamborghini Countach 5000s replica, i am also using am mold knightrider dash-boored , I am calling this (The real knightrider Project).
I will soon have more information on this Project.
so if you have any question's call me at 915-591-9250 and ask for Ismael Ledesma.
Or E-Mail at  moreis25@hotmail.com and till me what you need help with.

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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2004, 03:39:04 pm »
Call Him Ismael...[:D]

Ismael,

That sounds different enough to start its own new thread. But I'm curious. Do you mean your goal is to have HAL eventually control this full sized vehicle using relays/servos etc.via its own intelligence and/or voice commands?

DaRPA style?-->  http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/

Cool, I was not aware HAL could handle anything past a couple of semi coherent conversational exchanges at this point.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2004, 09:29:24 pm »
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Originally posted by Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism

Call Him Ismael...[:D]

Ismael,

That sounds different enough to start its own new thread. But I'm curious. Do you mean your goal is to have HAL eventually control this full sized vehicle using relays/servos etc.via its own intelligence and/or voice commands?

DaRPA style?-->  http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge/

Cool, I was not aware HAL could handle anything past a couple of semi coherent conversational exchanges at this point.
[?]



Yes: Babalu_Destruct_Mechanism and it is up and working now.

You see, When we (as in DARPA researcher's and I) started to develop (The real knightrider Project).
back in 2000, one of our first projects was to program the Hal2000 using X10 program's in to a "Car" to follow a line on the floor. The basic strategy was to make the car weave back (like a "Z") and forth across the line, making a little forward progress. First, the car veered ahead and to the right, until it lost sight of the line. Then it veered ahead and to the left, until it again lost sight of the line. Then it started back to the right, and so on. This behavior can be represented by two simple rules: (1) if you are veering to the left and you lose sight of the line on the rode, begin to veer right, (2) if you are veering to the right and you lose sight of the line on the rode, begin to veer left.

Imagine that the car is programmed with 2 rules: (1) move forward when you detect a green light, (2)move slower when you are in the dark. When this car is released in the environment, it exhibits a type of emergent behavior: it seeks out the edge of a shadow, then happily oscillates around the shadow edge. The car can be viewed as an "Edge-Finding A I Creature." This edge-finding capability is not explicitly represented in Hal's two rules. Rather, it emerges from interactions with human being's of those rules with specific structures in the environment.

We tried my Hal2000/Alan/Hal mex program, and Hal followed the line perfectly. But as  Hal approached the end of the line, we realized that we hadn't "programmed in" any rules for what to do at the end of the line. We didn't know what the Car would do. We were pleased with the behavior that emerged: the car turned all the way around and started heading back down the line in the other direction. This "end-of-line" behavior was not explicitly programmed into the car. Rather it emerged from the interactions between Human's and Hal's rules made by me and the unfamiliar environment at the end of the line.

By the way, I named my car Linda.

will if you wore thinking this sounds really cool but were did you get the money to do all this?
thats "E Z", the u s Government, yes the u s Government,
the u s Government's Free research grants

http://www.freegovernmentdollars.com/home.php?hop=hyd12

For more Info call (915)591-9250 and ask for Ismael Ledesma.
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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2004, 01:05:35 pm »
moreis62,
Sounds like an interesting project.

The web site for government grant info you provided is one of those "give us some money and we'll show you how to get free money" sales pitchs. In general I don't free comfortable giving money to some unknown entity that claims I can get something for nothing. It seems to me there must be a free government site that explains the process for obtaining grants. That web site would be useful to post.

My concerns are based on reports like this.
http://www.the-truth-exposed.com/grants/start.php
It's best to do a little background checking before jumping in.

That's my 2 cents on government grants.


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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2004, 01:47:30 am »
As always Mr Vonsmith, I’m way ahead of you my friend.

But yes it's true, we all need to do a little more background checking before jumping in government grants.
even tho, I paid for the grant info, I still think it should have been free, in any way, I still got a grant for $246,578 on this project.
Can you guess witch-one?[:D]
http://www.freegovernmentdollars.com/start.php?hop=hyd12

P,S have you seen our website http://www.darpa.mil/
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2004, 10:25:14 am »
moreis62,
Which one? Err... that's a toughfy. $246,578? Hmm... I wish I had that kind of dough to "play" with some cool technology. I'm one of those classic engineers that is too busy making a living to find time to work on the cool stuff; except for Hal that is. [8D]

Good going Ismael. I know of the DARPA web site. I'm an aerospace engineer and we do some business with DARPA and other mil orgs.

I look forward to hearing your progress.


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« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2005, 08:28:12 pm »
I been poking around the forum and found this topic. How is the KITT brain project going or is it still being worked on?

Is Ismael still around? Is he still working on the robot car project? I *might* want to talk to him at some time due to the fact I'm working on a robot car project too.