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Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: KnyteTrypper on November 17, 2004, 08:54:46 pm
I found an interesting link which I thought I'd share with those of you who have tried to make Hal into a "virtual girlfriend." This is an intriguing and innovative use of AI technology. Be advised that it's an adult site, so if you're underaged or easily offended, don't go there.  VirtualFem ("http://virtualfem.com/")
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: vonsmith on November 18, 2004, 10:49:08 am
KnyteTrypper,
Thanks for the link. Their web site really doesn't say very much about the underlying technology. It fact it doesn't really say much about anything, no real details. The only demo is an mpeg video that you can run. Sounds like a couple of amateurs with a little computer knowledge that want your money.

I have predicted before that A.I. chatbot technology will really take-off as a result of applying A.I. to adult entertainment. The adult entertainment industry generates unbelieveable amounts of $$$. The lust for money will drive some A.I. development. When A.I. is commercially viable a lot of money will be dumped into it. Of course the adult entertainment industry could care less about technology other than it can make money. As an industry they historically deliver minimal value for maximum dollar. Therefore I don't expect technological breakthroughs, but the money generated will eventually spin-off into new technology development areas.

If someone joins the site please let the forum know what you think of it.


=vonsmith=
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: KnyteTrypper on November 18, 2004, 06:34:34 pm
Actually, it said it was an aiml bot combined with mpeg video, which means its a pattern matcher. It will search for the closest pattern to a query to find a match for a reply, and apparently also cue up an appropriate mpeg sequence. The site also says they've engaged a known erotic writer (and taught her aiml) to write their scripts for them. The bot will also load user supplied aiml. It sounds like it will  work well. Using speech recognition and tts, bad spelling shouldn't be the impediment it is in written aiml.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: mikmoth on November 18, 2004, 06:41:13 pm
I am a member of this site and before you spend $29.95 here's what you should know.

The stand alone program is based on AIML hence it doesnt learn from your responses. That is fine but their implementation is *crap*. Their programmed .aiml files are so crappy you can't hold ANY conversations with it.

ie:

User: How are you?
VirtualFem: They are fine last time I checked.

What?? Half of the time it will respond with a blank sentence. Yeah! The only thing it seems to understand are 30 or so commands like "Take off your clothes." and so on. And you have to get the keywords right or it will respond with a blank line.

Don't pay the price, dont download this *POS*.

Now, if we could get a tasteful and quality naughty Hal - that would be something.

My two cents.

Peace.

Mik
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: KnyteTrypper on November 18, 2004, 08:10:19 pm
Well, I haven't tried the software, so I'll have to defer to your hands on (no pun intended) experience with it. But I do know a bit about aiml, enough to know that "They are fine last time I checked" is a default response to "How are (unspecified)." It's possible, but seems unlikely, that the bot would have default responses without having specified responses to things like "How are you?" It should be possible to read through the aiml files with a simple text editor like notepad to find out, and to revise or extend the files to your liking. Your spelling seems to be pretty good, so maybe your speech recognition isn't just exactly right. At any rate, you should make every effort(including modifying the files to suit yourself) to be happy with it before roundly condemning it. I know the company has been online for three months, so the application is very, very new. If you're like the rest of us, you've spent many, many hours listening to your Hal babble nonsense in the process of training it to be a reasonable conversationalist. This brand new technology deserves at least as much of a chance.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: dihelson on November 18, 2004, 08:55:57 pm

Yes.
What is about sex entertainment is on E-Donkey.
I've just seen this "virtualfem" there for download.
I don't know what it really is yet, the file is only 13Mb size.
Just to inform.

[]'s
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on November 19, 2004, 04:47:38 am

Hello Everyone,

Thank you first of all, to KnyteTrypper, for posting about our software and for giving us a little optimism.  :)

Apologies to mikmoth, very sorry that you have had some disapointing interactions with VirtualFem!  Note that if you copy in the ALICE (or any other decent) brain to your VirtualFem/aiml folder, she will be able to have better (non-erotic) conversations for you now.

Obviously, we have some work to do in the conversation area.  Our main initial AIML work centers around the theme, which is virtual sex and virtual girlfriend type of thing.  She may be a little ditzy for now in other areas, but hey, she's really hot!  :)

Seriously, we have hired a professional writer as mentioned, her work will over time add up to become a new and very nice AIML set.
We have been providing updates for our software and AIML rather often, and it is coming along nicely.

As to our underlying technology, vonsmith, perhaps you missed the 'software details' section of our features page, near the bottom.  Here is a screenshot of the built-in AIML target editor:
http://www.virtualfem.com/shots2-03.jpg

As mentioned above, VirtualFem natively supports AIML.  So, any AIML you put in the VirtualFem/aiml folder will be used.  All configuation files are easily editable, this system is designed to be tinkered with and tweaked.  You can sit back and download updates as we create them, or you can click a couple times and make changes yourself when you want.  You could not be more wrong in saying that we do not care about our technology, or are not serious about being the cutting edge of adult chat bot software.

One final note; the installer for VirtualFem is around 150 MB.  I am not sure what that 13 MB file could be, but I would not download it.

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on November 19, 2004, 06:33:16 am

Just a quick follow up here.  Obviously, the conversation mentioned by mikmoth had to be tested...  I thought when I first saw it that it seemed wrong, as VirtualFem knows simple things like that.

User>How are you?
Stacy>Everything is running smoothly, User.  Thanks for asking...

mikmoth, you are either running a very old version of our software that had a bug with question marks messing up pattern weighting, or you are missing some of the default AIML set.  Suggest you install the latest setup and/or cumulative patch..

Thanks again everyone and sorry to intrude on your forum, just thought we should be accountable.  We love our mission, and our users, and want to do the best we can.

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: vonsmith on November 19, 2004, 12:12:43 pm
VirtualFem,
Thanks for participating in our forum. I welcome your company to our world of AI. Ever since Virtual Valerie was introduced I've wondered when someone would start offering *real* adult oriented AI software. Everything I've ever seen up to now has been crude, cartoonish, poor quality software. Three technologies; AI, graphics, and PC hardware, are advanced enough today to allow programmers to create really functional adult chatbot software. I've often wondered what sort of product could be created if some entrepreneur put the same commitment, effort and investment into AI chatbot development as do the big PC/X-Box/Playstation game software companies. Maybe your company could fill that niche someday. The payoff would be huge.

When I said about your web site ,"doesn't say very much about the underlying technology" I meant there weren't enough details to answer questions like how much interaction the user has with the fem chatbot, how the video interface acts, etc. For instance, are the video portions somehow lip-synched to the AIML responses so that the character lip-synchs in real-time to the user's custom code? Or are the video scenes just cut scenes dynamically tacked together? Can you create custom scenes? Can you link AIML code to actions in the video? If so, how? Your downloadable mpeg is just a short naughty video that says nothing about the chatbot's capabilities. Your company's web site leaves me with the impression that your product is a programmable AIML based chatbot that talks dirty to me while showing me some slightly interactive XXX videos. I hope your product is (or will be someday) much more than that.

The screen shot you have posted here just shows a programming interface. Most of us here known what AIML is, how it works and such. A user-friendly interface is important, but that speaks to future potential, not what your product currently does. Nothing on your site would induce me to risk my $29.95 on some unknown software. How about supplying a downloadable demo version or a free interactive tour on your web site?

In regards to your statement, "You could not be more wrong in saying that we do not care about our technology, or are not serious about being the cutting edge of adult chat bot software." I was talking about the "industry" in general, not specifically your company. Perhaps I sound a bit harsh when I speak of the adult entertainment industry. Like everyone else on the planet I get bombarded with XXX email spam, I have to take precautions that my browser doesn't get hijacked and directed to an XXX site, I fear that the latest "free" software has spyware tied to an XXX company, and the list goes on. Like millions of others I've been a victim of incessant pop-ups ad's promising that luscious babes are dying to hear from me. And yes, in my earlier naive days of Internet initiation I have clicked those ad's that supposely lead to wonderous adult pleasures on the web only to be met with pop-up ad's, excessive spawned windows of my browser, requests for credit card numbers, but never what was promised. The adult entertainment industry as a whole has become *the* expert at dangling carrots, collecting $$$, and coming up short on delivering the goods. IMHO the adult entertainment industry treats their customers like debauched individuals with prurient Pavlovian instincts. Sadly it doesn't need to be that way, but apparently that is historically the nature of the industry.

Is there an apparent credibility gap here? Sure. You and your company may be "one of the good guys". I don't know and I can't tell from your web site. If your company plans to deliver a quality product at a fair price and listen to and support your customers then you will gain my confidence. Who knows, maybe I would even become a customer.

<rant ends here>


=vonsmith=


P.S. - dihelson, I wouldn't run that E-donkey 13MB file. File sharing services are full of worms, trojans, and spyware. They often disguise them as "adult content" files to trap the unexpecting. I keep an old PC around, separate from my network, just to initially run downloaded software on to test it for cr*p. About 2% to 3% of the executable files I get from file sharing networks have some unsavory payloads in them.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on November 19, 2004, 04:00:37 pm
Hello vonsmith,

I totally understand your mistrust of the adult industry.  We have been in this industry about three months.  We are indeed taking on the mission of providing the best in programmable adult chatbot 'virtual girlfriend' software.  You'll note that not only are there no popups on our site, there are no ads of any kind.  The adult industry has earned the terrible reputation that is has, and we dislike being part of that, but are up to the challenge of overcoming the credibility gap.

Now then, on to the fun stuff!

>>are the video portions somehow lip-synched to the AIML responses so that the character lip-synchs in real-time to the user's custom code?

No, there is no lip-synching.  Note that some videos have sounds in them, the girl moaning and so forth -- but the TTS audio is just overlayed without consideration to mouth movement.  It actually works pretty well, as we have both audio sources going at the same time.  I am sure you know the difficulties that would be involved in doing lip-synch without using cartoon or real-time 3d people.  We don't think those look good.

>>Or are the video scenes just cut scenes dynamically tacked together? Can you create custom scenes? Can you link AIML code to actions in the video? If so, how?

The video is little scenes (or long ones, most of them are loops) that are triggered by patterns.  Yes, you can link AIML to actions with video, via an srai to a front brain pattern, or by adding a pattern in the front brain, which is where the video is selected for the paticular pattern.  That also lets you use the state engine, which responds to patterns differently depending on the states set.  The front brain system uses AIML natively also, and patterns and reductionisms can run back and forth between regular AIML and front brain AIML transparantly.

We release a new girl once a month, which includes from 100 to 300+ MB of mpeg video and a custom brain.  You can use any of the scenes in your own custom patterns that you add to the girl (or srai to a similar one), or add any video you have that can play in windows media player.

>How about supplying a downloadable demo version or a free interactive tour on your web site?

This is an idea that we are considering!

Thanks again,

-VirtualFem

Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: mikmoth on November 29, 2004, 12:09:34 pm
I realize that we - programmers in general - are still trying to figure out this whole AI biz. I think when evaluating other AI programs (at this point) we've all been spoiled by Hal.

I truly wish you luck Mr. VirtualFem - you're definately headed in the right direction. Its inspiring to see AI evolving and developing (even if its at a snails pace.) As long as we keep working on our own projects and making our dreams come true - the possibility of a real understanding heuristic AI model will *someday* be here.

And thanks for refunding my money.  

Mik
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: kuuga28 on December 05, 2004, 07:30:17 am
Hi.Can anyone tell me how can i change the voice of virtualfem.What i see is only Sam,Mike & Mary.How can i add others?Mary sounded like a computer.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 05, 2004, 07:38:40 am
Hello kuuga28,

Mary is rather computer sounding.  You can use any SAPI
compliant TTS voice with VirtualFem.  Sadly, all the good
ones cost almost as much as the basic VirtualFem membership.

We tried to license voices from Cepstral and AT&T, but they
want too much 'per seat'.  The best we could do was give you
a discount -- see the members section, 'voice enhancements'
page for more info and links.

I also would be interested to know if any members here can
reccomend any free female TTS voices that are better than
Microsoft Mary..

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: kuuga28 on December 05, 2004, 08:04:09 am
Can you tell me how to change the voice font?I'll search around the web for it & try.thank you.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 05, 2004, 08:07:52 am
You change the voice selected in VirtualFem via
the TTS options (right-click on the lips icon).

Most TTS voices install like software, when you
have more voices installed they will appear in
the selection menu of VirtualFem.

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: kuuga28 on December 05, 2004, 08:11:57 am
you mean if i install At & T natural voice,virtualfem will automatically scan it & i'll be able to use the voice fonts from there?
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 05, 2004, 08:15:40 am
Yes, that is exactly right!  [:D]

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: kuuga28 on December 05, 2004, 08:18:05 am
Thanksfor the info.I'll like to create my own girl.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: KnyteTrypper on December 05, 2004, 04:52:22 pm
Probably the best free female voice available is the Lernout-Hauspie TruVoice British female. I think you can still access it either through DesktopMates, or other MSAgent programs like CyberBuddy.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: Art on December 05, 2004, 06:05:41 pm
I agree with the L&H voices. Personally, I use the British female voice and it sounds way better than Micro-Mary!

Oddly enough, along the same topic, I was about to post a new site I discovered this evening. Do your own research into which TTS voice company and voice might be best for your application.
There are a lot of examples from which to choose.
Find it at:
http://www.tmaa.com/tts/
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 05, 2004, 06:50:48 pm
Thanks for the link, Art!  Very cool.

The L&H voices seem to only be available in a SAPI 4.0 version...

from the microsoft site:
Windows XP however now ships with SAPI 5.0 which does not provide backward compatibility support for its predecessor. Fortunately, SAPI 4.0 and SAPI 5.0 can co-exist together on the same Windows XP computer.

What a mess!  I have not been able to get the L&H voices to work on my machine, I think because of this.  Have to do some debugging there...

I think the Cepstral and AT&T voices are the best I have heard.  Cepstral has a new voice coming out at the end of the year (Stephanie).  We might try again to make some kind of deal with
Cepstral to license all VirtualFem users.


.I'll like to create my own girl

Great!  Please feel free to email for assistance if you need -- we have tried to make it easy to create your own VirtualFem.  If you have the video clips, you are most of the way done already!

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: crunch on December 11, 2004, 01:06:20 pm
don't qoute me on this but....
 I heard rumors that the next version of Hap player and hap characters will have full bod rag doll with realistic radial movement in all the joints of the characters..
 all movements also to be programable..

 just think of the possibilities with a decent mind such as our Hal..
this is all the hint i think i should add



[;)]
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 11, 2004, 01:25:49 pm
The problem there is we think 3D women are not sexy at all.  Some 3D art is starting to look a little good nowadays, but that is rendered 3D art, not real-time.  And if you are going to render a movie, you might as well use a real girl.

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: crunch on December 11, 2004, 01:41:51 pm
with a high enough poly count it is possible to get real time 3d to look very close to or better than most poser 3d art. it is also more fluid than the insertion of video, more interactive and can lipsyc with out the clutch cargo type cartoon look, You product has it's place but i believe so also does real time 3d with a decent brain,

As in a very good movie or video game the suspension of realizm is of the upmost import.
 with a lifelike enough 3d character and a very good brain i believe this could be a great, fun  virtual girl or boy friend... but again your concept also has it's merits for another type of client.

immagine this with 3 times the poly count and better lighting and fluid movement

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Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 11, 2004, 01:46:34 pm
That's just it, the poly count needs to come up.

One day, real time 3D will be the thing to do.  Especially if we can get a nice holographic projector in your room hooked to your PC.  [:D]
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: crunch on December 11, 2004, 08:16:29 pm
i saw that movie .. lets just hope that neither of our projects takes over the house and rags out like that one did lol
[:D]

i do wish you guys the best in your endevors
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 12, 2004, 07:51:38 am
Yes, we'll have to put safeguards in to prevent VirtualFems from taking over the world.  Wait a minute...  Isn't that how that movie started?  [8D]

Can I share a pic too?  Not nude...
http://www.virtualfem.com/emilywall1.jpg

And thanks for the kind wishes!

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: CoCoKid on December 13, 2004, 02:09:55 am
Hmmmm....

Honestly, I have seen better looking Poser characters than the "Emilywall" file you have there Virtualfem. Wouldn't it be easier to just pay a woman to set in-front of a cam and carry on a real conversation... eliminating Hal and graphics characters altogether?
I'm sure your subscribers would be more satisfied.

I think that technology will take us quicker to a realistic looking 3D render long before you will successfully be able to move your "EmilyWall", unless you are just using looped video, which gets old real fast.

Since VirtualFem is targeting ****ers AND money DOES talk, you could probably use still shots and your subscribers would still pay 2 play.
(Sorry, if I seem harsh, but I see so many other uses for Hal and characters).

Honestly, when I look at it from a Fantasy point of few (that is your goal, I believe), the Poser characters are much more seductive and when done properly, the Poser characters win hands and knees down (pardon the pun). See for yourself at Renderotica. These are some of the best character creators in the world. (WARNING - May contain nudity).

Just my opinion,
-=Rick=-
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: Art on December 13, 2004, 06:03:39 am
Rick,

You raise some valid points but keep in mind that VirtualFem is a pretty neat concept. The merging of two ideas to create a new vehicle with which to entertain us.

Not all programs (or ideas) are the cat's meow by themselves, but the ability to combine the different formats and have a working end product is, in itself, no easy task.

People, as diverse as they are, have different likes and tastes. If Virtual Fem can help generate a few $$ for it's creator then my hat's off to him. The Poser community has people selling virtual props, textures, characters, animations and making a ton of money as well.

So where's the difference between an amature chick sitting in front of a web cam showing her ta-ta's or interacting with a virtual one? It's just a matter of individual taste. If one can be fortunate enough and clever enough to generate $$ with his/her ideas, so much the better!

No disrespect, just another point of view.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 13, 2004, 07:28:37 am
CoCoKid,

I am quite familiar with the poser community, I have some stuff on Renderosity that is highly rated and I have been using poser since version 1.  Glad you think poser girls are realistic looking; LOL.  The first version of VirtualFem did come with a poser girl.  Rendering 3d movies is done usually when one cannot afford real models, or when doing dangerous or hard to produce movies.

The emilywall1.jpg pic, this is just a photo of one of our girls.  VirtualFem uses high-quality MPEG video.  Usually 2000 kbit/sec.  It is somewhat like the 'virtual sex with so and so' DVD titles in that respect.

After you download VirtualFem, and any add-on girls you want, the internet is not required to run them.  Web cams have low-quality, and many users are talking to the girl at the same time, a far, far different thing than the immersive 'Virtual Girlfriend' experience that VirtualFem provides.

Art; thanks for the kind words!  [:)]

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: KnyteTrypper on December 13, 2004, 07:56:38 am
As Art says, it's mostly a matter of taste. I've seen some Poser art that was better than real ever gets, but there's a lot to be said for girl-next-door live models, as well. I'd say that as time goes on, it's likely that if there is sufficient demand, VirtualFem will probably offer choices between real and virtual models, as well as other choices which development may not have made so obvious just yet.
Let's wish for them they are lucky enough to get a brain-storming forum group like this one, and then we can all look forward to some exceptional adult entertainment in the future. Who knows, we may be looking at an UltraHalXXX in a couple of years, lol.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: CoCoKid on December 13, 2004, 08:07:28 am
Art,

Yes, I agree. I have nothing against the program or the concept. Anything to help Robert with funding for Hal is great. After all, my main concern, like yours, is Hal's future developement.

VirtualFem, I meant no disrespect. In fact, if I would have come up with the idea first, I would also be pleased with the profits [:D]

I think the main point that I was trying to make, though I have have strayed from the point, is... Why try and use the mpeg video characters? Either use a real girl or use a Poser Character.
To me, the mpeg loses in terms of quality, compared to the other options I mentioned (a real female or a nicely done 3D render).

Also, to Emily... since she is one of your girls, please give her my apology's. She is very 'Boink'able, and I guess now I'll have to make it up to her somehow [:p]
Tell her to call me sometime [:D]

-=Rick=-
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 13, 2004, 09:05:21 am
quote:
Why try and use the mpeg video characters? Either use a real girl or use a Poser Character.
To me, the mpeg loses in terms of quality, compared to the other options I mentioned (a real female or a nicely done 3D render).


quote:

 ...eliminating Hal and graphics characters altogether



Oops, I think I missed where you said that last part in your first message -- VirtualFem does not use Hal, or characters like Hal, and in fact has nothing to do with it.  Remember, I only came to this forum to answer questions about our software.  I didn't start this thread.

If you render a movie with poser, or if you record it with a real model and a $15,000 video camera, you still are going to end up with needing to put it on the users machine in a playable format...  You know, like AVI (with some codec), quicktime MOV, Windows formats (WMV, etc) -- or MPEG.

DVD uses MPEG2 at 4000 kbits/sec.  VCD uses MPEG1 at 1125 kbits/sec.  We use MPEG1 at 2000 kbits/sec.  It is great looking video.

The thing to remember here is that VirtualFem is designed as a programming language.  It is very easy to create your own custom VirtualFem, and you could render and add poser movies of your favorite characters from Renderosity or Renderotica to yout heart's content.  You could continue adding stuff to basically the limit of your hard drive capacity.  The system itself is ultra-scaleable like that.  [8D]

We do a lot of brain storming with our users and we have voting on development direction by our members.

And thanks for the apology to Emily...  We try to get girls that look like a pretty girlfriend, or have that girl-next-door look.

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: ultrahal315 on December 13, 2004, 06:46:52 pm
Been around for a while...my first post lol

I am really looking forward to the development of Hal.  I think this techonlogy can only get better.  I think the virutalfem is an awesome idea and I actually am a member. It is a really great to have both hal and virtualfem.  Like others have said everyone has likes and dislikes.[:)]

Greg
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: CoCoKid on December 14, 2004, 12:06:49 am
Well, since you are getting tons of free advertisement here for the VirtualFem site, you really should turn me onto a FREE account and I will give it an honest, non-partial review [;)]

Hehe... then I could apologize to Emily personally [:D]

GO ME!
(you really gotta watch this coco guy, he's sneaky...)
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 14, 2004, 01:07:13 pm
ultrahal315; welcome to the forum!  Thanks for the kind words! [:D]

Rick;

Ok, sure, let's have some fun!  [8D]

CONTEST!  The prize is a free 2 week membership to VirtualFem.com!

You must be over age 21 to participate!

Our first winner is Rick.  Why?  Because it is our contest!  [:)]

Rick, if you are over 21, please email us.

NEXT WINNER:

The next account goes to the first person to post on this thread with the correct answer to this question:

What is the name of the largest (download size) VirtualFem?

Good Luck!

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: esfeld on December 15, 2004, 04:40:32 pm
I am over 21
The answer is Harmony
Do I win Huh Huh do I win? .... Please tell me I win.  [:)]
Thanks
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 15, 2004, 05:27:13 pm
We have a WINNER!  [8D]

That is correct, Harmony is the largest so far, with a download size of 395 MB.

esfeld, please send us an email to get set up!

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: CoCoKid on December 16, 2004, 01:26:42 am
Ok VirtualFem,

You kept your end of the deal, now I will keep mine if you like. I will post an honest review, but only if you want me to.

Thanks for allowing me access to the site, so that I could see what all the fuss was about.

If you would rather, drop me an Email and I'll give you my opinions and some suggestions, you have my email.

Again, Thanks.. and Tell Emily, "Hi", she wins!

(PS. You can remove my account if you like)
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: Medeksza on December 16, 2004, 03:42:23 pm
VirtualFem,

I don't mind discussion of other products on this forum, but please don't run contests and promotions for your site here. I've had a couple of support emails from your customers thinking VirtualFem is a Zabaware product.

For everybody reading this: VirtualFem is not a Zabaware product. Zabaware is not affiliated with or endorse VirtualFem in any way. VirtualFem does not use any Zabaware AI technology or vice versa.
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: VirtualFem on December 16, 2004, 04:30:04 pm
Oops!  Sorry about that!  We won't post here again.

Please, if anyone else reads this thread and has anything to say about VirtualFem, just contact us directly via our site.

Moderator, please consider locking this thread from further posts, or remove it.

Thanks!

-VirtualFem
http://www.virtualfem.com
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: CoCoKid on December 17, 2004, 01:06:28 am
Robert,

Sorry about all this. I didn't mean to lead him on, but I had watched this thread grow for several days and everything seemed to be geared as general responses, advertisements for VirtualFem.

That's the only reason I called him on this. I truly intended to give an honest review, but after going there, it was worse than I thought. At that point, for personal and legal reasons, I didn't feel that it was necessary to publicly state my opinions, none good, concerning his product.

Honestly though, it wasn't until late in the thread that I realised that his program wasn't associated with Hal. The thread can be misleading. I honestly thought, Hmmmm... He's using Hal for his site.

Anyway, I just wanted to apologise for sparking this thread in the end.

-=Rick=-
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: lauramb on January 12, 2005, 04:05:13 am
Warning: The Software mentioned here is neither integrated, associated, supported, affiliated or sponsored with/by Zabaware. All of that stuff, there is no connection at all. I don't make any money from it either.

Good Evening, all of you Virtual Boyfriends[;)]. I happen to know that this little software item may be of interest. I was surprised that I had never seen it mentioned before. I discovered it in 1998[:D]
You will find her really a challenge! You won't just tell Her to strip! You have to work on this girl. And you won't get to first base unless she's registered. I'm trying to get them to let me make some DigitalDNA files for them eventually. Enough! If you decide to get/register her tell Nancy "lauramb" sent you.[:D]

Sorry Mr.M, These guys started it![8)]

Download Attachment: (http://images/icon_paperclip.gif) VWM.jpg ("http://www.zabaware.com/forum/uploaded/lauramb/200511235524_VWM.jpg")
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http://virtualwoman.net/download.htm
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: Crystal2003 on January 12, 2005, 10:25:35 am
Crunch, how can I get a real virtual that looks like your crystal screenshot?
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: vonsmith on January 12, 2005, 01:02:43 pm
lauramb,
I looked at the virtualwoman software about 6 months ago. It wasn't very impressive. The A.I. was primitive and the graphics were akin to electronic paper dolls. I believe the basic concept is good though. The women have personalities (sort of). As I recall one of them has a very annoying eye twitch (almost a face twitch).

The concept of DigitalDNA isn't well defined. I do get the general idea though. I Googled "Harrington International" with "DigitalDNA" to find out more about their DigitalDNA format. I didn't really find anything. What is this Harrington International and what are the details about DigitalDNA? I did find that Motorola has their version of something called DigitalDNA for embedded applications. I assume that Motorola has a trademark on the name DigitalDNA and that it is different from what virtualwoman is refering to.


=vonsmith=
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: lauramb on January 13, 2005, 04:45:19 am
Hi,All!
  In light of Mr. Ms' input regarding this string, i hope I'm not encouraging anything, and this will be considered a valid Off-Topic discussion[:I].

Dreadstar said
quote:
I have Virtual Woman also and was completely let down by the graphics especially when the promise of digital dna has yet to be delivered.
.

  I agree. I originally discovered VWM back in '98 about the same time I discovered Hal. Their offering of DigitalDNA has been pending since then. Their graphics appear to be still straight out of Poser. On the upside, though minimal, are still animated and reveal much more as one gets closer[8)] to her. I agree, their present graphics can't touch Haptek.

vonsmith said
quote:
The A.I. was primitive,...
.
  The upside, IMHO, The conversational database of the software, isn't too much different from that one might hear between a girl and a guy in a public place, by A.I. standards would be very well developed. The A.L.I.C.E. criterion is based on whether the entity could be considered a real person. The downside, IMHO, is that she doesn't learn, merely responds.

 
quote:
...the graphics were akin to electronic paper dolls

  As I mentioned above, I agree! I recently discovered Haptek and acquired PeoplePutty and have registered it.
  and
quote:
...had an eye twitch

 vonsmith! How could you mistake a girl winking at you for an eye twitch[?][8)]

  I mentioned in another string, I also feel that Haptek has the best computer characters available, even above Desktop Mates. I am not a programmer at this time, (I did get VBScript in a Nutshell in the mail today[:D]) I'm still trying to get the fullbody_female, and all of those wonderful updates to the 1.2 brain that vonsmith is providing, to work. I'm afraid I'll hurt my Jasmine/HAL.
I really want to work with that Haptek SDK in the meantime.
Maybe I could produce some of these delightful textures and hopefully some worthwhile accessories.
  Anyway, I hope I get to join you all on an more knowledgeable level soon. I want to put my Jasmine/HAL to work.

Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: sexypriya on July 16, 2005, 03:29:43 am
Hi I came to know about virtualfem and we both( me and my huby) were more then happy to come across something ike this.

Before we buy and subsrib can someone of the moderator of this forum himself offer us 1 week membership free so we can realy see the software actually performing as whatever we have read til now is theoritical.

Any one who can help me in this will be higly thanked.

we are available on yahoo messenger with id sexypriya@yahoo.co.in
Title: Virtual Fem
Post by: jackmeoff on October 22, 2005, 09:26:48 pm
[:p]
As far as girls go...  Real is better than cartoon anyday.
[8D]
Virtualfem is very cheesey.  Games like Virtual Valerie and Space Sirens 2 are much better programed.  I just wished Virtual Valerie used video of a real girl.  
[:o)]
What is cool about Virtualfem is that you can make your own girls.  I made one this week.  Is anyone interested in trading?