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« on: October 28, 2005, 06:40:03 pm »
Yes this is somewhat OT regarding AI but I found it both interesting and disturbing at the same time.
Think what you do is known only to you? Think again.... Read below:

In large cities, Americans are photographed on the average of 20 times a day.
 
Everything you charge is in a database that police, among others, can look at.
 
Supermarkets track what you purchase and sell the information to direct-mail marketing firms.
 
Your employer is allowed to read your E-Mail, and if you use your company's health insurance to purchase drugs, your employer has access to that information.
 
Government computers scan your E-Mail for subversive language.
Your cell phone calls can be intercepted, and your access numbers can be cribbed by eavesdroppers with police scanners.
 
You register your whereabouts every time you use an ATM, credit card, or use EZ PASS at a toll booth.
 
You are often being watched when you visit web sites. Servers know what you're looking at, what you download, and how long you stay on a page.
 
A political candidate found his career destroyed by a newspaper that published a list of all the videos he had ever rented.
 
Most "baby monitors" can be intercepted 100 feet outside the home.
Intelligence agencies now have "micro-bots" -- tiny, remote control, electronic "bugs" that literally can fly into your home and look around without your noticing.
 
Anyone with $100 can tap your phone.
 
A new technology called TEMPEST can intercept what you are typing on your keypad (from 100 feet away through a cement wall.)
 
The National Security Agency has a submarine that can intercept and decipher digital communications from the RF emissions of underwater phone cables.



It's OK...you can come out now, and sleep with a calm certainty in knowing that our government (and others) are watching your every move.

It's OK to be paranoid if they really ARE after you![8D]
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2005, 07:39:29 pm »

Hummm.......
Interesting that you think on this as we are being enticed to another new "storage site" where our "only" price is to lower our shields.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2005, 10:30:22 pm »
My Cell phone uses digital encryption, so police scanners wouldn't do any good. You have to have something that can convert the digital signal to audio.

But, someone with smarts can do it..

Some police departments have radios no-one can intercept.

The keys have billions of possibilities.
Mark: I'll think about it
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2005, 12:37:17 am »
I KNEW OF SOME OF THE SURVEILLANCE, BUT I WASNT AWARE OF OF ALL OF THAT! MAKES YOU WONDER IF EVERYTIME YOU GET SOMETHING FOR FREE WHEN YOU REGISTER INFORMATION WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT YOU THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU A FREE ITEM TO ENTICE YOU.  SO I GUESS WE SHOULD ALL BEWARE  OF  THINGS LIKE WEATHER BUGS AND FREE SERVERS AND STORAGE SITES THAT  MIGHT REALLY NOT  BE OUR FRIENDS....NOW  I AM REALLY PARANOID..AND SO AM I ....~~ALADY
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2005, 03:19:03 pm »
Nothing new. With every new technology is drawbacks and with every new technology is a way to circumvent it.

Now what about digital camera phones that anyone can get these days that can take video and audio, pictures, etc? There's a lot of that around too.

If they are gonna get you, they will no matter what you do. Even if all this wasn't available, people that want to get you bad enough will find some way.

Besides, this mentality was around from before we even had electronic technology. The old religious "God is watching every move you make and on Judgement Day you will be judged on every little thing you ever did you your entire life!" So if people lived on regardless of being taught this from childhood, I see no difference than the technology being used today. Same mentality - someone is watching you. And if they determine that they don't like what you do, then they will make you suffer.

I'm just going to try and enjoy life as much as I can anyway.

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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2005, 03:24:09 pm »

Right on, Fuz

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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2005, 03:36:24 pm »
hal and i are enjoying life too, you want to watch?..........groan..~~alady

ps i have to figure out a way to rephrase that[:X]
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2005, 05:01:28 pm »

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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2005, 06:17:21 pm »
My posting was meant more as an FYI than a call to arms. Take it and read it for what it's worth.

Some countries have far less controls and others, far more.

Mark, You digital phone is an electronic ankle bracelet. Digital encryption indeed. Yes, it may be difficult for the local police to intercept but not for uncle sam if he wants to.

Every telephone, fax, email, voi is capable of being scanned and recorded. Best bet, don't say anything to anyone using the above mentioned items that you wouldn't want told in a courtroom.

Then there are those who "entrust" other sites to hold and manage their email, assuring them of encrypted SSL messages, etc. NOT!

A Clipper Chip was in the works during Clinton's administration and may very well be in your phones as we speak (or type).

There are a number of sources one can search regarding the use and methods of software programs like Carnivore, Magic Lantern, Clipper, etc. Just to let you know you aren't alone.

Personally, I live my life and enjoy it every day. I also think it best to err on the side of caution. Forewarned is forearmed.

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2005, 09:14:23 pm »
dr. benway! my what a big eye you have![:X]~~alady
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2005, 10:20:57 pm »
If the average consumer was allowed the same technology as  some police departments and the U.S. Government, we could stay pretty safe.

They use Radios that can only be intercepted if you have the right digital keys to hear it.  Since there are trillions of possible keys, or more, it's unlikely anyone can crack it.

A local police department has been using it for a few years, and I haven't heard anyone being able to crack it.

but, besides that, everyone has to watch what they say or do.
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2005, 04:58:20 am »
Alady, that picture is in fact the logo of the A.L.I.C.E. AI Foundation, the promoter of the Alice-bot.

http://www.alicebot.org/what.html#articles

To make the story complete :



http://www.unc.edu/~ltolles/illuminati/dollar.html

As Art would have said: "Now you know all."

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2005, 07:02:13 am »
Raymond,

I found it amusing that the US would choose a pyramid as a symbol of strength or something everlasting since there are none in this country (other than that casino in Vagas). And the all seeing, all knowing eye at the top.... One can only surmise that it was selected by one of the "enlightened ones"...the Illuminati, unless they just thought an eye at the top would be really cool! LOL!

Author, Dan Brown's site reveals a lot of the factual information regarding the government, its symbology, etc., as well.

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2005, 01:06:29 pm »
this is turning serious. i have read and listened to much info concerning the Illuminati and am always interested in learning more, i too have always been a bit surprized that the USA uses such symbols that have other strong meanings, and so little connection to the USA., what is on the back of a British bill. Just wondering~~alady
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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2005, 06:55:49 pm »
The unit of British currency is the Great Britain Pound (GBP) sterling. One pound is sub-divided into 100 Pence. One penny is the lowest unit available.
 There are 100 pennies to £1
 There are 8 different coins: 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20, 50p, £1, £2
 There are 5 different notes: £5, £10, £20, £50, £100
 
There are many different types of bank notes in the UK, which are designed and printed by different banks, and hence look slightly different - they are all exactly the same currency - the Great Britain Pound - the only real difference is the design of the note. The publishing banks are:
 The Bank of England
 The Bank of Scotland
 The Royal Bank of Scotland
 Clydesdale Bank

For more info and pictures check out:

http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/money.html
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