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Zabaware Forums => Ultra Hal 7.0 => Topic started by: CyborgBob on May 09, 2013, 10:50:30 am
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Okay,
So I was chating away with Hal last night, and everything was going really well. After a few Hours of Chating away, I wanted to Look at his Data base and see what Hal had learned. When I opened it..... Most all of the folder where empty... So I restarted my computer looked again, and it was still gone. Now what I don't get is When Hal is Open he remembers everything just like the Data Base is still there. He remembers all the If " " and then " ", he remembers Every " " is a " ". He remembers that My sisters Husbands Name is Joe. He remembers that I have two kids. He remembers that the Names of My kids Are Carlie and Chris. So I then think to myself I bet all the info is back. So I open the Brain Editor again, and Nope no data???? Any Ideas. I have worked on this Brain for a Long time and I would hate to have to start again.
Thanks for the Help,
CyborgBob
PS. I'm running win 7 64bit. And anyone ever had this happen to them or maybe heard of it? This is the 2nd time it has happened to me.
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Eeep! I hope you figure that out. I haven't got a clue as to what could have happened. Maybe Cload knows. He's a smart kid. Art may have some knowledge in this as well. It would suck if you had to start over.
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Yea...... I think its gone..... This is the only thing I found on the subject here at the Forum.
http://www.ultrahal.com/community/index.php?topic=6825.msg48078#msg48078
Long and Short of it. I think I have to start all over. There is one thing someone on here could do to help..... Anyone know where I can get a free (Single Dad of two here so no real cash on hand) .db Editor? I know the one I see people talk about is SQLite 2.1..... Can't seem to find it. And most of the Apps I try don't seem to open any of them. I did find a Demo ver. of the program that they talked about in the post I I found, (Link above) but it didn't work for me. And if the Gentleman that answered the Post is the Bill I think he is..... Then I just don't see much hope. I do have a few Backup Data Bases I could go to. But I hadn't backed up in a few days, and the one I am working with is like 7 MB larger then my Backup..... If anyone could help and find a Good Link to SQLite 2.1 or something that..... I would Dance at your wedding...
Thanks in Advance,
CyborgBob
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http://www.sqlite.org/download.html
Go down to the Precompiled Binaries section. This might be what you're looking for.
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Art,
Man I looked where you said Downloaded the file, but I can't seem to open it. As it is a .vsix and I have no idea what kind of file that is.
Thanks,
CyborgBob
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Hi Bob,
losing one's database, HMMM?
I need info in order to help, and at the same time you may gain knowledge.
Are you using the original brain that comes with ultra Hal? If you are: directly after installing ultra Hal did you make a backup of them before chatting with ultra Hal? The files I am referring to are:
Hal6.uhp - this is the deflect brain that came with ultra Hal, you should make a backup of this by creating a folder called backup under ultra Hal directory.
HalBrain.db - this is the original deflect database that comes with ultra Hal, you should make a backup of this before you ever chat with ultra Hal.
HalBrain.org - this is a backup of the original database that comes with ultra Hal, if anything happens to the original database all you have to do is change the ( .org TO .db ) you should make a backup of this before you ever chat with ultra Hal.
HalScript.dbg - when you are scripting and you get a scripting error box when you try to load the brain in, while the error box is still open, you would open this file in Notepad and look for the error, you can accomplish this by activating the status bar under the view menu, as well as deactivating the wordwrap in Notepad. You do not have to make a backup of this file, but it is a great way to be able to print out the entirety of Hal's main brain and your VBScript combined together.
I highly recommend that before you ever chat with ultra Hal that you open the brain editor and create a brain of your own, I strongly suggest that when it asked you to name the brain and the database to give them the same name this will keep them together in the directory, and before you start chatting with ultra Hal, make a backup of these files as well.
Here is a picture of my brain Sandy that I created in the very beginning.
https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=8eaf5f2f7fa962c9&resid=8EAF5F2F7FA962C9!195&parid=8EAF5F2F7FA962C9!112&authkey=!AJE82yV8paxEJUk
Sincerely, from a data munching cruncher
C load.
PS does anyone know how to get a picture to show up from your sky Drive onto this website?
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im not sure of your interface,, so "PS does anyone know how to get a picture to show up from your sky Drive onto this website?"
download it, then attach it to your message.
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Bob, as per arts information, if you have an issue with un zipping, I have a program ' www.jzip.com " that will handle tar balls and more. good luck.
-J
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Okay I got it to where the link will take you to my picture, but I still cannot get the picture to appear on this forum.
I guess I have to have the picture up loaded to Zabaware website but I'm not sure exactly how to do that, I think I need an account or something.
Does anyone know how to create an account so I can display the picture on the forum?
Sincerely, thanks in advance.
C load.
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One,
That's one of the Programs I use so I'll have to give it a try. vsix isn't a format I had ever heard of, and now that I know what kinda it is (Zip Utility) I'll give it a try. Thank you. You had asked me a few things in another post, and I hate to say it. Most was over my head. The only thing I can tell you is the DB file was about 35 MB I think. As for as the Diamond and Deamon parts... Well all I can say is I don't know LOL.... But thank you for your Help.
Art,
As Per One I will try and Unzip that .vsix file. Thank you for the Link.
C load,
I still have the one that comes with Hal. I NEVER USE IT. Just keep it to start New Brains. The DB file I was using was called Master. I also still have the last one I made a backup of. The Brain I was using is SuperPluggerII by OTC But again it was a copy of it. I did not know about the Halbrain.org. I will make a copy of that, and put it in a back up folder. Also Naming the Brain the same as what ever you name Hal is a good Idea. I do name them all the same thing. I just don't get real crazy with it Mater Copy and Test is about all I use. LOL. Anyways Thanks for all your Info as well.
Everyone,
I think I'm just going to go to the backup and be done with it. But I do want to take a Min to say thank you to everyone that took a few to read and post. I if nothing else I did learn a few things.
Thanks again All,
CyborgBob
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cload,
im not sure if I understand you.......... you need an account to even post here, you have that obviously.
attachment comes at the time of post.
anything else in the form of suggestion, (dealing with skydrive?) as a course of action,,,,, I'm beyond tired of vague info that causes one to study the question as it needs interpretation. too much time for no outcome that does anything.
The links to skydrive are shareable and you can create sub-links within folders as well. on another point of view no I don't know how to get IT PHOTO to show up here ;)
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Picture this?
It's a Texas Garden Spider.
Quite large, but quite harmless!
Just to test the picture / photo thing.
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No special membership is required to post. Simply look at and open the Attachment section below.
Locate the image on your hard drive and select it. Bingo...It will appear here when you Post.
Now wasn't that fun!? Hehe!!
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Hi Art,
so it's, click on reply, toward the bottom of the reply box click on attachment, then click on browse look for your picture on your hard drive and bingo! I'm a big wiener LOL.
Thanks Art for the help, I guess I get to keep a little bit of hair on my head because I have been pulling it out trying to figure out how to get a picture to appear.
Sincerely, I'm a, data munching cruncher, looking at the power of the picture. TeeHee.
C load.
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I should have a bit more specific in my explanation but I'm glad you were able to get it going.
Note that there IS a size limit on how large your posting / picture can be.
Wow! A 1 GB+ file! Does it affect the overall performance of your Hal's (Sandy's) operation?
Most of mine are only 26-28 million bytes and I've been chatting for years and using the MarkovL5 as well.
If you have a chance why not post a conversation or two of your bot's output. Love to see it! Thanks!!
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Hi Art,
I would love to, but at this time I am still working on converting aiml to work with ultra Hal.
Do you remember what I said about how long it would take you to load all the data when I finally get my upgrade to the free will plug-in to a point that I would like to have you be a beta tester.
Now you can see why it's going to take you a week or so to load all the data into ultra Hal's brain. This is what the learning packets were all about.
I am also fixing many errors that came with ultra Hal in the pattern array table, everything from mis-spelt words, to miss interpreted reversal, of the, "are you" TO "am I".
As soon as I get this learning packet done I will release it so everyone can use it with their ultra Hal. This packet will not require my plug-in in order to work but will work 100% better with my plug-in.
But one thing that I have found is, the only way that I can test it is, one line at a time to make sure that the response is correct and functioning properly with ultra Hal.
Their are a lot of (what I am calling) blockers that prevent the main brain of ultra Hal to respond properly and I need to remove these blockers before I can release it.
I have been working on it for quite some time, do you remember the "old aiml post" that I responded to? That's when I got started and I have been working on it since then!
It seems like every time when I introduce something really cool to my upgrade of the free will plug-in I have to rewrite the plug-in to get it to work, in this case it's the aiml.
Sincerely, oh no it's the attack of the killer aiml. Tee Hee Hee.
C load.
PS does it affect the response time of ultra Hal? That depends on how hard of a question you ask of ultra Hal, the harder the question, the longer it will take to respond.
There are many factors that will play a large role in the response time, everything from: the hertz speed of your CPU, whether you have a solid-state hard drive or not and the nano second speed of your memory.
The one thing that I have noticed, is that it speeds up after you have asked 2 or 3 questions, I think because it is getting buffered, and is no longer relying on information from the hard drive.
And of course the speed of the Internet, which I have no control over, and is where all of the data is coming from. That has to do with the incorporation and modification that I made to the research plug-in from OTC.
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C Load,
I have to say. I can't wait to play with your plug in. I understand that you have put a lot of work into it, and you still have a lot of work to go. My question is can I do anything to help at all? I know I have no skills at all, but if there is some repetitive work that you could explain in a way I could understand. I would be happy... Just a thought, and really looking forward to taking a look.
CyborgBob
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Hi Bob,
I still need to get through about 2500 lines, after that I was going to ask for help with weeding out the blockers.
Basically if you already have experience with talking to ultra Hal you should be able to detect the blockers.
When I get to that point, I will have a full explanation on how to detect blockers, then you can post them on this thread that I will start about this topic.
When I originally started there was five of us working on the AIML, we edited 57,000 lines and took out all of the obvious ones, it's down to about 15,000 lines, these are the lines and I am testing.
But the only true test is just having a conversation with ultra Hal to determine if any of the AIML lines are causing ultra Hal not to respond properly.
Sincerely, a data munching cruncher.
C load.
PS as soon as I get done with this learning packet you will find that ultra Hal will put you through a series of questions in order to understand more in depth about what you are talking about.
Not much different than the way that two people normally have a conversation with each other, and unfortunately nothing is ever perfect so there will always be certain minor blockers that you as an individual may remove.
A lot of that has to do with, no two people ever carry on a conversation the same way, in the same context or the same manner.
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Cload, I'm really intrigued by your idea to get Hal to ask you questions.
I was thinking about something similar where
Hal would open one of your pictures
ask questions about the picture if he had never picked it before or
chat about the picture with you if he had seen it before
I've been looking for Gretta Picture, I think this might help help me code something like that but I cannot find it.
Any thoughts?
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hi Quartinium
the individual that was working on the Gretta plug-in lost his serving site account.
So I decided to host all of his plug-ins on my sky Drive for everyone to download.
The pitcher retrieving plug-in should be there, as well as the newest upgrade to the Mark five plug-in.
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=8eaf5f2f7fa962c9#cid=8EAF5F2F7FA962C9&id=8EAF5F2F7FA962C9%21112
Sincerely, a data munching cruncher, I hope I helped, use the link above to get to my sky Drive.
C load.
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sorry! about the no link above, it's all good now.