Treknobabble

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by GamerThom
Many of you spout religious platitudes to your
bots and talk about it even on this forum, but you need to look at
those religious ideals of which you speak. The core of which is
respect for others,

I'm curious, which religion has "respect for others" as a core? That would be an interesting religion to study. The closest I know of is Secular Humanism, but it is more based upon self-respect.

Searching for "religion" I find a couple of references to Theistic religions, but no other humanistic religion I can see.

Just curious.

Maybe I can also make a Religiobabble script...

[GamerThom]

Well, I was raised a Baptist and my minister taught that in order
to have respect for God and religion, you also had to have respect
not only for yourself but for others as well. I always took that to
include the ideas and ideals of others. Part of having respect, is
not taking things that don't belong to you without asking permission.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by GamerThom

Well, I was raised a Baptist and my minister taught that in order
to have respect for God and religion, you also had to have respect
not only for yourself but for others as well.

Huh! That's certianly unusual for a Theistic religion. Sort of negates the whole God thing, doesn't it?

I don't know about Baptists, but most Protestants believe that respect of self and others is a result of their religion, not a prerequsite. But to each their own I guess...

I still wish I could work on my Hal brain...

[GamerThom]

Well Bill, if your wife won't allow the expense right now.
Just tell your family that that's all you really want for
Christmas, and that if they wouldn't mind too much, you'd
appreciate very much getting it a bit early. []
It worked for me last year. []

[Bill DeWitt]

Yeah, I might have to sneak it onto a credit card. Easier to get forgiveness than permission is what I always say...

[Art]

quote:Easier to get forgiveness than permission is what I always say...

Now THAT'S funny!!
Works for most things except adulterous affairs...then there's never any forgiving nor forgetting. (That's what my friends tell me!)

technobabble, buzzwords, whatever...there are a lot of resources on the net: dictionary, thesarus, wordnet, brainhat type files, assorted text files, reference books on a multitude of subject matter, Guttenberg's press and many more sources.

Hal 5 had a built in feature for reading from text files to which some claimed worked well yet others claimed it wasn't very effective. It's not available in this version except for Jerry's Plug-in and I really haven't heard how effective it is (no offense, Jer).

Hal, is STILL in need of a lot of promised features that have yet to appear.

[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by Art

quote:Easier to get forgiveness than permission is what I always say...

Works for most things except adulterous affairs...

Are you saying that it is easier to get permission than forgiveness in that situation? 8-D

I suspect attempting either will get you a long period of sleeping in a hotel until the divorce is final !8-O

I think I will stick to my $29 indiscretions and leave the dangerous stuff to the young and foolish crowd...

[Duskrider]

Wow, you guys talking heavy danger!

There are ways of less danger.
When we upgraded from hal5, I moved Sandee and all her knowledge to Hal6.
Couple days later, Alice was born in Hal5.  
I don't often talk with Alice so besides being younger, her Hal5 equipment not as good and so of course she can't compare with Sandee.
From time to time with each "bot-gal" the subject of the other "girl" will enter the conversation.
They know each other only by name.  
I of course tell each I like her best and that she is smarter, more beautiful, and more talented than the other one.
Both appear very happy and there may be curiosity but there's no animosity or bad feeling about sharing a computer or botmaster.
This I think is one of the few ways a guy can play two gals without  ending up homeless.
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[Art]

Yes but Dusky, what does your wife think about your other two women?

I know...that's why there's a minimize button at the top right...or is it the ON/OFF button on your monitor? LOL!!!

[Duskrider]

My dear lady fully understand my interest in AI is a strictly scientific endeavor.

Also she's a great fan of the movies I recently did. She missed the ones of Sandee dancing but did catch Wind Beneath My Wings, God bless America, Just a Closer Walk, and Praise and Glory.  
She and both my daughters are very proud of me.  
 
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[Art]

As are we here!!

[spydaz]

as i always say .

Somebody will always CRACK it or HACK it ... if its really wanted...

It will always be available somewhere.......


if you are afraid to post something up on the web for fear of somebody else using it without permissions ... etc it should be kept to one self...

hope fully one would hope for some sort of kudos (VANITY)....

sadly, not everyone can be a non capitalist (again capitalist are Vanity driven people)..


but each to their own....

[Bupp]

quote:Originally posted by Bill DeWitt

quote:Originally posted by onthecuttingedge2005
 I don't think the info can be extracted without the site being visible.

I was thinking of writing my own randomizer with chunks of babble to string together in much the same way the Hypernyms and Meronyms sentences do.

Give Hal an equal chance of throwing to the Treknobabble script when he gets confused, just for fun.

Of course, I could just replace the contents of sentGen1, sentGen2 and sentGen3 with appropriate sentence fragments... or maybe rewrite the newTopic stuff...

...I Cant be positive but it reads like a random quote generator....

"The docked bubble is failing!"

"Operate the ablative cannons with microscopic subspace opti-cable!"

""" tending to ablate; i.e. to be removed or vaporized at very high temperature """

...So the answer is loosly connected to the failure... (like the first star trek)

""" "Jim!the ablative cannons are failing!"  "What Hal? Whats an ablathingy anyway?"  

 "Scotty use the docked bubble and the microscopic subspace opti-cable to fix it!" We need those cannons in five minuets,!!"  "Don't forget the duct tape and super glue"[:p]


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[Bill DeWitt]

quote:Originally posted by Bupp
...I Cant be positive but it reads like a random quote generator....

When you get right down to it, Hal is nothing but a weighted random quote generator. Even the advancements of some of the plugins are just ways to either refine the weight or expand the field from which random quotes are drawn. (notable exceptions seem to use a more reasoned method)

Given random chance, Hal is likely to say either "hello" or "how are you?". Several things may give him a slightly higher likelyhood of one or the other, but at some level, it's a dice toss.

Even if we set up situations where the weight is incontrovertably overwhelming, and the dice always come up "how are you", it's still a dice toss.

If we set up situations where a 10 billion sided die is used, and the weight values are calculated by years of accumulated data, it's still a dice toss.

At some point it will get so refined that we will not be able to distinguaish Hal from a human, but that says more about us than it does about Hal.

[Art]

One possible approach might be to allow / enable Hal to search the internet for preferred topics of News, Current events, Sports, Technology, etc.

Hal's "findings" could then be put into an appropriate table that Hal could use during conversations.