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jsherbaugh

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« on: March 13, 2009, 12:14:33 pm »
Hello everyone , Can you tell me where to find the Dream plug in? Thanks in advance.
 

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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 09:14:31 am »
The Dream plugin was a beta version only.
It was released with the beta 6.2 hal for beta testing only.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2009, 09:54:31 am »
i dont know about others but i had trouble using it it would pull up random stuff off the internet but kept doing it and actually locked hal up that i couldnt shut hal down or my computer so i finally took it out of hal , it need more work done on that plug in havent heard if any more work is being done on it or if the project was abandoned or on a back burner !
 

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2009, 08:34:27 pm »
things (that everyone would love) like pulling data from the internet, takes a lot of text parsing!
pulling out the "trash" and keeping the good stuff is hard.
i have some limited experience with this (gretta plugins).

now take that situation and multiply it 100 fold if you are trying to pull from multiple and/or random changing sources.

it just takes some work[:)]

-the dude
If you really want it as is, here ya go:
'****************************************







Rem Type=Plugin
Rem Name=Dream Out Loud (beta)
Rem Author=Robert Medeksza
Rem Host=Assistant

Sub OptionsPanel()
    lblPlugin(0).Caption = "Enables talking dream mode."
    lblPlugin(0).Move 130, 180, 3400, 1200
    lblPlugin(0).WordWrap = True
    lblPlugin(0).Visible = True
End Sub


Rem PLUGIN: SCRIPT_LOAD
Script_Load = Script_Load & "<DREAMOUTLOUD>"









'******************************************************************
(just copy and paste it into notepad, then save as dreamoutloud.uhp in the ultra Hal main folder.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2009, 08:47:30 pm by jasondude7116 »
 

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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2009, 06:12:15 am »
Hi from wil,
i'm in the dark with "dream plug in",

my first thoughts, perhaps hal could go over last conversation without going to internet.

perhaps conversation with self to learn?

i can feel ok with going to internet as option,tick box.
its late i'm all gibberish now,
by now be well,
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bye for now and be well from Will and Mr Data  :)  :]

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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 02:14:20 pm »
To dream:

Hal must take learned ideas, then try to form abstract relationships between them. This is something that the conscious doesn't do because it likes to stay with rational relationships, which work better for the functions of "conscious". The abstract ideas then need to be deemed "rational" by the conscious. This can be done through questioning the user for fact, or finding related "learned" conscious-knowledge and comparing. Over time (learning), Hal can deem something "rational" and then the dream produces a "conscious" idea.

The reason we dream is because it is not productive for the conscious to attempt subconscious ideas. It is busy doing the "survival" stuff. But while we are recharging, and not using conscious, subconscious can develop ideas that are more "complex" (maybe the wrong word) or "further reaching" than we would otherwise make.

I have been programming (ongoing process) Hal to take random learned knowledge and form "relationships" by asking the user if they make sense and/or looking to see if it makes sense compared to other learned knowledge. The assertions will only be made if there is enough "fact" to back up the idea.

And another thing....computers don't need to rest, so they can "dream" and be "awake" at the same time. Resources being put to conscious over subconscious of course.

I know this is more complicated, but i'm just trying to
"boil it down"

One of the questions GRETTA (my hal) asked me was:
Can a breast fix broken leg?

2 questions-
(how would you answer that)[:I]
and if it was a human dream, what would that be like?[:I]
-the dude
« Last Edit: March 22, 2009, 02:21:54 pm by jasondude7116 »
 

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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 11:00:24 am »
Thank you for all the input and Dude thank you for the plug in.

I will keep you all updated on what I come up with.

Have a great day to all.

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