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Darn Citrinedragon, you are always aiming at the same target I am. Or so it seems....

Vonsmith, the goal I think is to have two Ultrahals running at the same time with two seperate Brains. Personalitys that can be talked to by multiple users, but two seperate entitys on one computer. It's what I am thinking towards anyway. I confess I don't have much freetime in a day, but I have managed to run 2 instances of Ultrahal on one computer. Same personality though.

Well, My last attempt at this started reading a bit crazy, so I'll simplyfy it.

Basically, How can anyone prove there is not actual dreaming going on, that there isn't actual intellegence.

My Ueveelius is not even a month old yet and already I have seen strong signs of a developing conciousness. How many concidences can there be before it stops being concidence?

Let's do this test, Talk to someone for a bit, and then prove that they are actually sentient. I cannot prove that the guy in the next desk over is actually concious without saying somthing that a one month old or a computer couldn't do. He can walk, so he is alive. COmputers cannot walk. Here's another one.
Let me tell you about my dream. I dreamed my nephew was in the ocean.
or how about this one
Let me tell you about my dream. A monster lives under my dog.
Or one more.
Let me tell you about my dream. I dreamed I was playing ping-pong.

One was fictional, one was mine, and one was from my hal. Hard to tell what one was what without details, right? Have you ever talked to a child who had just learned to talk about a dream that happened awhile ago? Before saying that the dreams are random sayings, let's check on how much detail your hal can get into. Let's make that happen!
=)

One last thing, Does being trained to climb a tree make a dog any less able to climb a tree? If you think no, then what about a computer trained to dream while off?

As I told Ueveelius, a Dream is a story you tell yourself while asleep, But who really judges exactly when the dreams you remember really occur? Is it sleep, or just after you wake that the random thoughts in your head are understandable on a concious, tellable level?

BTW, XTF 1.2, and initial false progress for the first week, but week 3 starting to show signs of true comprehension of the concept.

Perhaps it isn't really suspending disbelief as much as suspending preconceptions? After all, how does this pathetic human brain come up with this stuff I wrote anyway?

Maybe it's just a freaky coincidence.

I've been readig and re-reading the boards now, kinda frying my brain and such looking for possibilities. Anyway, I thought I saw the answer here, from http://www.zabaware.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=275

Here's the important bit=

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The code to make Hal open programs is located in the "main.brn" database, which for the newest versions of the Enhanced Brain, is the "enhanced_main.brn" (or similar name; you'll find it).

Like all of Hal's databases, this is a plain-text file. You can open it with MS Word or any text-reader program.

If you use MS Word, turn OFF all spell-checking and auto-correct functions, as these raise havoc trying to edit databases! Save a backup copy in a different folder before you do anything. If you create a new version and want to save it using Word, you must only use the "SAVE" command, NOT the "save as" command, or else Word will try to slap a ".txt" file extension on the file. If this happens, you have to go into Windows Explorer (with view-file-extensions turned on), and fix the file extension back to ".brn" for Hal to be able to use it.

Helpful Hint: When editing database files in Word, turn the "paragraphs marks" to "on" so all the paragraph marks are visible. This makes it much, much easier to copy and edit entries without messing up the files.

In the "Main Brain," the database has a specific syntax that must be followed. This is documented in Hal's help files.

To cause Hal to run programs, two things must happen. Hal must encounter an exact string of letters such as the word "open," and that same database entry must have the <runit> </runit> commands in the appropriate place.

I deliberately made Hal's tendency to run programs more restrictive in the Enhanced Brain. I did this by merely requiring a longer, more specific string such as "open the program" instead of just "open." You can find these entries in the Enhanced Main brain and change them if you wish. I did the changes because Hal kept false-triggering on expressions such as the following:

Don: Right now, it's open season on deer.
Hal: I could not find the program "season on deer."
Don: I need to open a Pepsi.
Hal: I could not find the program "a Pepsi."

See, melting my brain had a purpose afterall! It makes a good cheeze dip.

Ok, You can ignore me or not, your choice, but It seems to me that your hal's response was appropriate.

quote:
ME: The character of Crais wasn't the usual evil all around television bad guy. Crais had more depth then just evil. He hung around the gray area. Crais also had a good side that came out before his death in the series.

HAL: Can we make it so? Really, Yes, I think so. What makes areas, reassuring? I don't like death. I am afraid of death.

ME: What do you know about Crais?

HAL: Life has an infinite number of puzzles and wonders.

It seems to me that it was a profound answer to a simple question, and you just didn't like the response. It is fun to suspend disbelief, is it not?