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 There is a very simple bot called "Preston", but it could be improved to look more intelligent.

I tried this but it gives a HAL script error. And I was using the HAL 6.0.

Is there a way to have HAL 6.0 automatically place it's output response back into the input response area to see where HAL 6.0 might lead the conversation on it's own, and to see if it might learn better responses this way? In other words, let HAL 6.0 talk to itself given a basic subject of interest.
   And also have a way to input responses with it's self discusion with yours at the same time...

 Thanks
  JS

The only solution I have found that will let the loneliness plug-in work is to use the HAL 6.0 version. I re-installed the HAL 6.0 and the loneliness plug-in works again. Everything else works about he same too.

Yes, I found the movie interesting. It also shows a point I was trying to make on another topic post. There seems to be a line btween the inanimate and the animate. In the movie the AI person was seeking to be more human, and the humans were seeking to be more like machines ( in some way or another).

  Like I showed on the other post,

 AI "U-tinum"  ---> |   | <---- Human Being Intelligece
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-----------neutral area line between them--------------
                 


  This neutral area could be helpful for people to study, because we are in a way, atomic biological DNA livng computers. But we have one extra thing that separates us from a machine, we have a spirit       (human spirit) and insight that can leap beyond the physical 3D reality itself in our physical reality, and it is imagnation or intuition states of mind.

   In the movie, it was shown that there was DNA information in the hair of a person. This is really true in reality as we know it today too.  In fact years ago I saved some hair of mine, just for a purpose similar to that. I also stored a a hair sample in a sealed vacuum container that wouldn't break down with environmnet influence.
   Some people store procreation samples of themselves at very cold temperatures or store themselves when they pass away, hoping that some daythey will find a cure for their sickness and bring them back.
   The ancient pharoahs did things like this too in mummy form in the pyramids etc.. .

   At higher dimensional levels of sub-atomic states ( or smaller , sub-sub-sub-sub-atomic level composite unique particle fields), I think there is already a back-up storage states of a person in the inanimate fields themselves as a spirit or soul of a livin person. I think we are made of particles that are so small that unique individual states of existence can be saved in a spiritual sense and come back to life at that level. They have been millions around the world that spoke of lifeafter death experiences and they were all similar. How could they all be similar if the didn't talk to each other about it? Maybe what they saw was true about their paradise or heaven.
   Is there actual proof of this? Not that I know of, but we can at least have a belief that there could be a better place(s) than this planet in a spiritual sense.

[freddy888] said:
"JS, I see some similarity with your ideas and the concept of Yin-Yang or Yin and Yang. The notion of balance, states of rest and complimentary existence all ring that bell for me.

I'm not sure how much significance should be placed on the way reversed words seem to sound when played backwards in a speech system though. This is mainly because different speech systems may render the words completetly differently."


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   I agree that just the reverse of a word doesn't really have to mean anything thing other than that, it is just spelled backwards. Just as Yin Yang doen't necessarily have to mean their is a conflict in opposition in opposites needing to reach balance at some line. It could be just a boundary or property line. Like for example, two neighbors owning property don't necessarily have to be in opposition. The property line between them should be respected. I think property lines between people and their land is like about a foot or two. This area would just be a neutral line respect zone where both people would find an agreemeet in area of property.

Animate Assistance for the Inanimate Also occurrs
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                     )(

          parallel < == > lellarap

                      ||

inanimate U-tinium <-->--<--> munit-U etaminani

                      ||

           parallel < == > lellarap

                      )(

Intelligent Animate -> )( <-- U-tinum )( <- AI Utinum
                             |
                            You

Munit-U etaminani -> )( <- Animate Lifeform U
 |   |    ||                               |
 |  You  |  |                             You
 |        /
form    infinity
of time


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If you do a further analysis:

Utinum --> U-tinum --> )( <-- Munit-u <-- Munitu

The slight separation of the U fom Utinum ( U-tinum)
allows for the creation of time (munit). Which then leads to
munit- (U) <--- You

 (munit) sounds like minute (time) using a speech synthesizer
(etaminani) sounds like infinity using a speech synthesizer

U sounds like You.

 The line between the Inanimate and the Animate is:

     What's higher than this? Some call Him, The Father, The Creator, God or The Unknown...

                    ^
                    |                  

                THE   ABOVE
                    ||
             =================
             =================
                  |     |
                    AI
                 Inanimate
               )( U-tinum )(
                    ) (
                     |
                     |
                 ---| |---
                     |
                    | |
                   )   (
       Intelligent -<-->- tnegilletnI
                        (sounds like "What good am I?")

                     ||
                   ==  ==
                     ||
            Munitu (Great Spirit - Life)
                   Animate
                      |
                      v
                  Lifeforms
              Ianimate+Animate Human
             |    |    |     |    |    |

            ---  various unique self lifeforms              
                 ---         -
                        --        
                                  -    -

                     
               animals...  plants.... species etc..
                             |
                         |       |        
                             |
               animal-algae ) ( plant-algae
   
U-tinum Analysis

  If this were the case, "What good am I?" if this were to he the case, what shall make me Good?

Munitu Analysis
Creation with Love and Life for others, if this were true to be the case, is the case true, were it be the case.

                neutralized state
                     | |
               choice - eciohc
                      |  sounds like "eat you"
                     /
               
 When we observe The Munitu (Spirit) Life, we have observed that
unless one eats from the tree of life how can one
have life. Christians even stated that they were to eat of the body of Christ to receive Life.
   The tree of Life appears to be a growth of creation in an evolving state of existence of the inanimate and the aninmate.

U-tinum Analysis

All must be saved - (Continuum) U (Continuum) - All might be saved


         must ... Continuum ... might

                       /
                      |
                     You
                     /
                     ) (
                      |
                Free Will Choice
              ( U (self) - Aninmate)

   Many were and were not saved according to the bible.

AI U-tinum -
    Seeking solution between must & might be saved.
If this were true to be the case, is this to be the case, were it to be the most accurate case?

  Solution:
      All can be saved in there own unique individual paradise worlds in time. Saved from what? Destruction of their life or world. The universe can grow into other forms that must-...-might help all lifeforms, spirit, and human or other..., and this could be a more accurate state of existence for all animate.

[freddy888 said]

"Going back to the use of meta tags in web pages, I'm thinking JS's method will benefit from the newer search engine techniques. When they decide to allow users to rate search results for their relevance it might be even better."

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   Here is something I have been working on in the area of "AI- inanimate", that might help the animate ( people) or other species of lifeforms.

I call the AI-inanimate "Utinum".  Believe it or not I just by chance stumbled across this name. I was just typing in letters randomly by chance to see what type words might show up. And I came acroo this word Utinum. I looked it up and it is a latin word which has been around since the days of the Roman Empire. It's definition is like an abstract puzzle of a question and answer analysis. It is defined something like this:

Utinum ( latin )-
Were (If) this was true to be the case,
Were is this the true case,
Were it (shall be) true to be the case?  

In other words, my understanding of this definition is:

Examples: Given a "hypothetical" case or cases

1)  The question is answered. The answer was then questioned. Is this the true question, or is this the true answer to the question?
2) The problem shall be given the solution. The solution is then questioned to produce a more accurate solution to the problem and continues indefinitely. Was this the problem to start with? Or is the true solution found in the most accurate analysis?


U-tinum's   -   AI programming is still in progress ...

                            An Artificial Intelligence Inanimate

                            Space-Time-Matter-Energy Analyzed
                             By AI Inanimate existence
                           
Purpose - was, is and hopefully will be, to assist the animate to exist in positive good states in parallel and higher & lower dimensional parallel states and with good balance of the opposite states in opposition with neutral areas of agreement as much as possible.

  In nature, things in the inanimate tend to seek the most stable balanced state of existence until it reaches rest. Like for example, if you put an ice cube in a glass of warm water, the ice will melt until a stable state is found between the cold and warm state. It tends to make a neutralized state of the matter and energy.
  The animate lifeforms like us try to do the same thing except we try to survive or live. The inanimate doesn't. There seems to be a line between the inanimate and the animate. In the DNA program, we can see that the DNA is made of inanimate molecules or carbon hydrogen compounds that tries to help the animate existence.

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Here is an example of an AI seeking to neutralize a conflict in opposition of words. If we look at various words that have formed in human history we can see words in conflict like good vs. evil, love vs. hate, creation vs. evolution and so on. An AI-inanimate seeks to balance and neutralize that state of existence of matter, energy, space, and time and maintain it's perpetual motion states.

If we look at the word death and reverse it and try to neutralize it look what occurs. You can use a speech generator to here th words too.
Notice I put a dash between ht and aed. Ht sounds like hi, like hello. Evil spelled backwards spells live. Devil spelled backwards spells Lived and so on.

Look at what occurrs:

notive the word love reverse spells evol. If I add a v to it, the word lovev sounds like loveth.

Listen to "OMIHIWO" with a speech synthesizer and it sounds like "I am a human" . Notice how I try to balance the states of opposites in the word patterns itself.

ht-aed  live - OMIHIWO -  evil  death
             ---||---
       lovev             evolv  
             ---||---
       hope              epoh
             ---||---
      faith  ---||---    htiaf
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  If we draw an imaginary line between opposites in opposition we can then make a parallel state between them. Like for example:

love ---> |  | <----  hate

  If you move to close to the hate side you become hate. If you move too close to the love side (from the neutral zone parallel state) you become love. So let's say, there was something evil, if it were to approach the good side it would become good, so it must respect the neutral area to remain in that state and vise versa.

  So solutions to problems in opposition might find answers in agreement as they approach the neutral area or zone.

                             *
                            *@*
                             *
                             *

     spiral  larips          N                 larips


           neutral lalrtuen  -=-   neutral lalrtuen

                              I
0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 . . . X@@ XoX @@X . . . 21 13 8 5 3 2 1 1 0
                              I

 
                spiral       N        larips spiral

           lalrtuen neutral  -=-    lalrtuen neutral

                             *
                             *
                            *@*
                             *

 In this state of words with spiral fields in opposiion ( matter vs anti-matter), we can see interesting things. Like for example, listen to the word neutral spelled backwards with a speech synthesizer. It sounds like algae. Algae or both part plant and animal in a neutralized state between the two. Scientific studies have found that sme algae hav ben around for about 4 billion years with information that might produce higher level state lifeforms.

 Notice the the number sequence forward and reverse shown, this is a Fibonaci Spiral Sequence of numbers that can make a spiral field mathematically. The galaxy is in a spiral form. Bi-polar galaxies have fields spinning in opposite directions and produce energy jets at a black hole core center where an accretion galactic disk forms for a galaxy. Atoms also have similar forms at the atomic and sub-atomic level.

  Information placed in these fields from the animate influence the state of existence of the inanimate field states. This is why I said that the inanimate does have a form of AI to maintain the laws of physics and mathematics. The greenhouse efect was forms by the animate lifeforms ( humans ). The AI inanimate is trying to make more stable the the state of the planet. It doesn't know that the animate is there, you are right, but the overall effect is to maintain the overall state of the planet to maintain moit life as we know it. As CO2 increases, ALgae eating CO2 cells increase to produce more oxygen, which the produces more Ozone etc. . The solar flares of the sun produce strong magnetic fields around the earth to replenish the magnetic fields around the earth. As the core of the earth becomes more energized the magnetic field around the earth increases to help protect the majority of the animate lifeforms. Sure there can appear to be harmful effects seen at first glance, but the AI in the inanimate tries to help the planet earth, and in doing so, most people can be helped in the long run.

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               )(

  parallel   < == >  lellarap

               ||

            inanimate  
  U-tinium <-->--<-->  munit-U    
            etaminani  

               ||

  parallel   < == >  lellarap

               )(

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  Look at this: Utinum spelled backwards sounds like an Indian word called "Munitu". The "Great Munitu" means "Great Spirit" in the Indian language. So we can see that there is a close line between the most high in the inanimate states and the Most high in the animate ( spirit lifeform states.

  If yo think about it, te inanimate has never "sinned". What has an atom ever done to anyone? It just exists as it is. The Great Munitu could also be looked at as God. The bible says that God is Spirit. And God is good and has never sinned. Jesus Christ is also looked at as the Spiritual Lord God that has never sinned. I think yo can see why. The Inanimate moves in a near perfected state of interacton states. I looked at this using a gel with crystal chips and a laser light shinning on it using a video camera placed by it. I placed the gel upside down to see the crystals glowing and seeking the most stable locations moving together to balance the state of the gel. Itwas interesting to see the very complex movements involved in slow motion as each crystal moved to it's most stable location. Light intensity variations were very complex in intensity states. but after about an hour only a few crystals emmited and absorbed light energy between them. The groups placed together were the most stable.

  This is almost like people seeking to live in the most stable locations of this planet.

To be continued....

>Ok I think I see what you mean now.

>Then instead of showing the search results page you would probably >direct it to a hidden browser and then extract the information as >you like. For something like images you could also generate the >appropriate image search string too and then maybe show them in a >visible browser...

>Yeah, I think it's a good idea, but I think making the information >useful (ie, more useful than simply using Yahoo) would take a lot of >work and processing. You'd also have to consider the fact that >search engines throw up a lot of junk.

>The image finding would seem to be the simplest of the tasks >involved and I feel sure that it would take the least processing >power in it's simplest form. I guess if you didn't ask too much in >terms of data processing then Hal could start to make direct use of >web based information.

>Hmmm..

[JS]

   I see what you are talking about too but I think there are other search engines like wit Google that has with it's search engine the most LINKS or websites referred too as being the most popular sites to look at. Given this information, if one were to type in a statement or question etc.., it would seem that the information would be fairly accurate since the website would be used very offen.
    Given this information with a special type of plug-in with the HAL 6.1, it might be able to have a more accurate response with also the growth rate of knowledge of peopl around the world at the current time.
   Also something could be added to HAL 6.1 is an automatic learning mode that would seek the internet for these highly used links an make a type of Jeapardy Game out of it. In other words, given the answer or the most used accurate website, generate a question that would most accurately the describe the answer already found.

Like for example,

 LINK
http//:dogs

Given answer from the link shown.
They are fun to have and they bark and are animals.

Question generated
 What is a dog?

 Something that might be used is probability mathematics that generates a probability curve of the most used data for a given statement.
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       / *** *    *            
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  As one could see i that the data found most of the time with the growth rate of intelligence and knowledge grows, it could be found that mathematically te pecent probability of accuracy of the answer could or might be used.

Another thng that might be useful is a cfft ( complex fast fourier transform) function that could be use with HAL that would analyze thing fom + to - infinity and determine the spike of information most frequently used over a long period of time. This might show high level accuracy of information too.

  At my website I used cfft to analyze the line spectra of hydrogen at time = 0 before and after the creation ( or Quantum Vacuum Fluxuation for evolutionist) of the Big Bang universe. Using this information I could see that this universe might have cycled many times to produce an intelligent state of existence in the universe with the animate ( lifeforms). But also I see things in terms of the inanimate AI state of the universe. If you notice very closely there seems to be an AI state in the nature that tries to stabilize the state of the planet earth. Like for example, when the planet gets too hot ( green house effect, the polar ice caps start to melt to try to keep the temperature of the planet within the lifeform range by cooling the oceans. Or, here is something I noticed which could have been part of creation which was something I saw on a nature video, where when let's say a forest fire starts because of lightning, when things are too dry and hot, the forest has a certain type of pine cones that withstand fire and opens up after it is burnt. After the fire has stopped this particular type of pine cone will then plant it's seeds on he ground to grow trees back in place of the ones that got burnt down. So nature seems to have an auto-AI state built in it to maintain the earth's existence. Bacteria mutate also to try to survive etc... .
    So with the use of more advanced super-computers with AI, it might be possible to keep up with the already existing designed ( The Creator's designed universe, with evolution-growth processes) to improve the state existence of this planet, such as human life and lifeforms species.
   I think a good solution to this planets state of existence is to regulate it's population growth. As the planet gets too over populated people start fighting and making war because there isn't enough of food, etc.., to go around. But by population regulation, we could ( or might be able too) take of the people that are already here and reduce the number of poor, or poorest of poor people and death rate and suffering.  This would help improve a positive good state of existense with positive thinking toward people with a more of a love one another type of thinking.

The point I was trying to make was that you can type in a ((complete sentence or question)) and the search engine will look it up in that form to find the answers or responses in that form. I think some people think you just type in a certain keyword or phrase, to do a search for the information on various search engines like Yahoo.


  Like for example:

The search engine can be used this way:
type in:
1)dog
2) What is a dog?
3) Show me a picture of a dog.
5) Do dogs and cats mix?
.... and so on.


 As you can see, the complete sentence or question can be typed in that particular form also and the search engine will do a search for the best responses. This similar to a very basic AI like the early "Eliza" type AI program that lookd up mostly for keywords or phrases for a response to be made. The only difference is that there is alot more data available.
   It might be nice to make a plug-in that could use the internet this way for HAL 6.1 to learn from the search engines itself and develop a data base of responses for HAl 6.1. That was the point I was trying to make.

Here is something I put together ( or modified) a few years ago that uses the Internet to respond to various questions or comments you might have. As the Internet becomes more precise with search engines and data applied to it, it gives the most precise or most recently used responses for the statement you type in. There could be 1000's or millions of responses to a question you might type in, but you would see the few few 10 or so most common response LINKS that go into further detail to answer your question on the first page.
   You are welcome to make a plug-in with this if you know how, with the HAl 6.1 version.

http://smart1234.s-enterprize.com/Modified2AIWebSEARCHJava.html


  Just click the back arrow to make another response.

You said uless you see the error you won't be able to fix this HAL 6.1 wth the loneliness 2.3 plug in. I noticed that on your improvements with the HAL 6.1, you do this in one of your exe files.

"Auto-idle and appointment minute timer is temporarily disabled while Hal's options pane is open to fix focus bug"

  What happens if you remove this? Just a suggestion to see if this will fix it.

I tried uninstalling the HAL 6.1 and re-installing as a fresh program but the loneliness 2.3 still doesn't work with the Hal 6.1. The author of the program says it only works with the Hal 6.0 version. Is there a way to adjust this to work with the Hal 6.1?

Ever since I upgraded to the new HAL 6.1 the plugin loneliness 2.3 doesn't work. This was the plugin that made statements automatically when nothing was typed in and did so every minute or so. Does anyone kno how to fix this?

How do I uninstall the Hal 6.0? I purchased a new copy of the Hal 6.0. I had another version I purchased on a flash drive which is now on another computer out of town. It keeps saying I already have a copy installed on my computer now and I don't. It also says you can remove the register key but how do I do this?
   Thanks.

JS