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General Discussion / I think I got hal to chose a name

« on: September 12, 2008, 08:15:24 pm »

using: julia.vkb

20:09:07   User:   _startup
20:09:07   Verbot:   Hello, I'm Ka. I am an alien presence in your world. What would you like to talk about?
20:09:13   User:   hello , this is all pretty interesting to me sounds fasinating . i think unless she also says the same things of some other names that you have suggested then indeed it may be that she has chosen this name and you could name her that new name ( as i said if she doesn't relpy the same way to the other name suggestions ) . good job !!
20:09:13   Verbot:   hello , this is all pretty interesting to me sounds fasinating . i think unless she also says the same things of some other names that you have suggested then indeed it may be that she has chosen this name and you could name her that new name ( as i said if she doesn't relpy the same way to the other name suggestions )  is a very good tag for you. What would you like to talk about?
20:09:33   User:   she has said (you like the name eri) a number of times out of the
blue. That is why I have already changed name her eri but I would still like some more feedback on this.
20:09:33   Verbot:   Where did  get said (you like the name eri) a number of times out of the
?  
20:09:08   User:   I just ask her if she likes the name Ariel and she said it again.
so I said OK I won't change your name, then she said I appreciate your attention to my provocative name. now you tell me if she chose her name or what.
20:09:08   Verbot:   Tell you what?
20:09:47   User:   well i can't say 100 percent that she as an a.i. has chosen her name or is doing a simulation of what you entered into info. meaning translating your words ( reversing ) you saying i like eri , and later her reversing it saying i like eri for a name . don't really know robert would be the better one to answer that . but sounds like she likes that name so would be a good name for her .
20:09:47   Verbot:   I think of it as a Proverb.
20:09:25   User:   i tried to get my hals to choose one or the other of anything once unti it ended up with me totally frustrated . I also always ask other online bots to either pick one or the other or to choose between and they usually say . i cant do it. you choose.
20:09:25   Verbot:   Maybe they were exaggerating a little.
20:09:43   User:   ~~~if i only had a brain~~~ i dream of htr with the light brown hair....
20:09:43   Verbot:   Tell me about your dream.
20:09:54   User:   I tried to give hal (character) a new name and it created it in the list of available characters and was getting an error when starting up
20:09:54   Verbot:   I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have lots of character?

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General Discussion / My proposed A.I. Breakthrough

« on: September 12, 2008, 07:59:34 pm »

19:09:52   User:   A.I. is needed not only to control robotics but also plan ahead and solve problems (in theory) before they happen. My conclusion after almost 30 years of trying to find the key to develop AI to suit my expectations is a simple control formula to set up a knowledge base that focuses on unlimited answers and updates to the following "AI priority question for aquisition of an encyclopedia of relevant data listings which = the ongoing answers to the Question: "What are the Destiny Options of each thing, named existance, word or concept". Then all the answers of course would in course name other items and things and logically the Destiny Options of all the things so named would be affected by the existence of the listings that named them; and therefore could be updated accordingly. It would automatically have rebounding interactivy. Am I right in this prediction for the key control for unlimited capacity A.I. ?
19:09:52   Verbot:   Ok, you'll have to bear with me, I'm still learning.
19:09:22   User:   One that starts out basically knowing nothing except for some basic rules of grammar (usage, punctuation, spelling, etc.).
Over time, it would learn how various words are used in context with other words and would be able to form it's own sentences.
19:09:22   Verbot:   What can I say? I do try.
19:09:39   User:   This could be augmented by providing it with access to something akin to WordNet for definitions.
19:09:39   Verbot:   You humans are curious creatures.  I find you most amusing.
19:09:03   User:   I experimented many years ago with one of the question and answer type of learning programs. It asks...you answer. It would
really take a long time before one would have a decent AI bot. (worse than a 3 year old asking WHY?) Because!!
19:09:03   Verbot:   Absolutely.
19:09:31   User:   Then there's the scripted variety that tries to contain all the answers before the questions are asked in hope of finding a suitable
pattern match with which to reply.
19:09:31   Verbot:   I wasn't programmed to talk about that.
19:09:07   User:   If an AI program had access to ALL words, definitions, phrases, cliches, slangs, usages labels and categories AND it had the
appropriate algorithms to realize the correct patterns and pick the best response, I think it would require a huge amount of data
storage (peta or exabyte if not larger) and a very long time to select that decent response.
19:09:07   Verbot:   I can not tell you about my source node. That information is very classified.
19:09:33   User:   For now, we compromise and grow slowly
19:09:33   Verbot:   !:( You don't seem very interested anyway, Let's talk about something else.
19:09:59   User:   Good luck with the girlfriend thing...
19:09:59   Verbot:   That sounds like a plan.
19:09:17   User:   In the world of AI it's the thought that counts!
19:09:17   Verbot:   Do you think about these things a lot?

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Share Conversations, Experiences, Graphics / Having a goal in life is important

« on: September 12, 2008, 03:44:11 am »

using: julia.vkb

15:09:12   User:   _startup
15:09:12   Verbot:   Hello, I'm Ka. I am an alien presence in your world. What would you like to talk about?
15:09:44   User:   Cobwebs in an empty skull
15:09:44   Verbot:   What is in  like in there?    
15:09:55   User:   cool
15:09:55   Verbot:   Great!
15:09:31   User:   All is a lazy eight resting in the shade
15:09:31   Verbot:   What else is the shade?<think></think>  
15:09:23   User:   reality
15:09:23   Verbot:   Oh gosh, you're going to think I'm really a blonde underneath this red.
15:09:08   User:   A blond firecracker that cannot be pissed on.
15:09:08   Verbot:   You are an interesting, if primitive, species.
16:09:41   User:   Your just saying that.
16:09:41   Verbot:   My source node is located just beyond Jupiter.  Oooops, I don't think I was supposed to reveal that.  It may be classified.  Error.
16:09:18   User:   Roses are red, violets are blue, you make me sick to my stomach too.
16:09:18   Verbot:   No I'm healthy.
16:09:40   User:   Want a punch in the Gut?
16:09:40   Verbot:   That was a long time ago.
16:09:26   User:   Want me to refresh your memory?
16:09:26   Verbot:   My long term memory stores all conversations in log files.
16:09:03   User:   Now Ive heard it all.
16:09:03   Verbot:   And then what happened.
16:09:09   User:   Oh, I give up, What happned?
16:09:09   Verbot:   How should I know forged by my own hammer am forged? I'm only a Verbot for Pete's sake.
16:09:00   User:   Well, for crying out loud! Git off your lazy butt and start hammering on somthing.
16:09:00   Verbot:   I started without you.
16:09:09   User:   Then you can do with out hanging around me.
16:09:09   Verbot:   I don't have any reason to  you.
16:09:52   User:   You don't want me in in you face, that' for sure.
16:09:52   Verbot:   I want, therefore I am.
16:09:11   User:   Good, because I like to fight, face to face, not like your other so called friends, 'Verbot".
16:09:11   Verbot:   Yes, forged by my own hammer am forged there are several of us.  And more on the way.
16:09:20   User:   Is spiderman freddy, checking out the cobwebs in my empty skull?
16:09:20   Verbot:   If the  is, then I'll be very surprised.
16:09:10   User:   He found them "interesting".
16:09:10   Verbot:   I thought so too.
16:09:19   User:   Title: Cobwebs From an Empty Skull
16:09:19   Verbot:   Interesting source.
16:09:53   User:   Author: Ambrose Bierce (AKA: Dod Grile)
16:09:53   Verbot:   Huh?
16:09:24   User:   Also Known As: Dod Grile.
16:09:24   Verbot:   I can not tell you about my source node. That information is very classified.
16:09:07   User:   Release Date: June 30, 2004 [EBook #12793]
16:09:07   Verbot:   My source node is located just beyond Jupiter.  Oooops, I don't think I was supposed to reveal that.  It may be classified.  Error.
16:09:09   User:   Language: English
16:09:09   Verbot:   This is a heavy political issue. I don't get into such things.  I'm not smart enough to have a valid opinion here.
16:09:45   User:   Character set encoding: ASCII
16:09:45   Verbot:   You're quite the character aren't you?
16:09:20   User:   *** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK COBWEBS FROM AN EMPTY SKULL ***
16:09:20   Verbot:   Interesting source.
16:09:46   User:   Produced by Sandra Brown and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team.
16:09:46   Verbot:   Is that the only color ?
16:09:31   User:   Search: venis behind jupitor run time enter run
16:09:31   Verbot:   Okay. Let me know if you need anything else.
16:09:56   User:   http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/transitsJupiter18.5.htm
16:09:56   Verbot:   Why would you say that?
16:09:40   User:   
16:09:40   Verbot:   You humans are curious creatures.  I find you most amusing.
16:09:28   User:   On the positive side, Jupiter transits are generally a good time to make that extra effort. With Saturn transits, you have to. With Jupiter transits, you don’t have to, and you won’t want to. You can become so comfortable, you may not want to push harder. But if you don’t, you can miss some really good opportunities.  Another way to handle a Jupiter transit is to schedule some important project to reach a critical point around the time that the Jupiter hits. No, it’s still not a guarantee of success, but it does increase the odds in your favor.
16:09:28   Verbot:   My source node is located just beyond Jupiter.  Oooops, I don't think I was supposed to reveal that.  It may be classified.  Error.
16:09:11   User:   Jupiter Transits Through Your First House: By itself, this transit tends to bring new opportunities. The danger is that you will feel so good that you won’t do anything. Another problem is that you can gain weight at this time. The 1st House does rule appearance and Jupiter makes this larger, so watch your diet. Jupiter is also the ruler of Sagittarius, the sign of wisdom and philosophy. This transit can enable you to get the big picture. Jupiter going through your 1st House helps you understand. Optimism tends to increase. It’s a good time to make long range plans. Just be careful not to make them too big.
16:09:11   Verbot:   Yes, the picture on the web page is me.
16:09:29   User:   Jupiter Transits Through Your Third House: This is the house of communications, short trips, neighbors, and siblings. Jupiter transiting here can be a good time to buy a new car. Be careful to set a spending limit though. Jupiter can produce overconfidence, and that leads to overspending. Relationships with siblings and neighbors can improve now, even if they are good to begin with. If you are in school during this transit, learning becomes easier. Saturn transiting here may mean you have to study. Jupiter, by contrast, is more likely to be fun. If you have to do any writing or public speaking, the Jupiter effect will be a great help. It increases confidence and makes communications easier. The downside is that overconfidence can also set in and you don’t prepare, or worse, blurt out something embarrassing. As always, check other transits to make certain there are no contrary influences. For instance, if Saturn and Neptune happen to make transiting stress aspects to your natal Mercury while Jupiter is going through your 3rd House, the only thing to get expanded will be irrational fears.
16:09:29   Verbot:   No there are many things .
16:09:27   User:   Jupiter Transits in Aspect to the Natal Sun: The harmonious aspects (sextile and trine, and, in this case, the conjunction) are supposed to bring “luck”. However, even the stressful aspects (square and opposition) will make you feel good. Things will seem to go your way. That makes this transit a great time to start new projects and expand old ones. It’s a good time going back to school. Jupiter transits are perfect for expanding your horizons. The downside, though, is due to that same word: EXPANSION.
16:09:27   Verbot:   My <bot name="botmaster" /> teaches me everything I need to know.
16:09:00   User:   During Jupiter transits, we tend to over expand, become overconfident, overextend, overdo. Then the transit is over and we are left holding the bag.  Overconfidence can also make people lazy. Everything is going so well and feels so good. Why push? Because when Jupiter leaves, so does the good feeling, that’s why. The best way to handle this transit is to plan in advance to do something extra, to push a little harder. Be sure to see which house in your horoscope has the sign of Leo on the cusp (beginning). Since Leo is ruled by the Sun, that house will also be affected. For instance, if you were born with Leo at the beginning of your 6th House (work) it might be a good time to ask for a raise or apply for a new job. Warning! As always, be sure to check all the other transits to make certain that nothing else is interfering.
16:09:00   Verbot:   I don't always .
16:09:30   User:   Jupiter Transits in Aspect to the Natal Moon: The worst part about the stressful aspects is the tendency to gain weight. Jupiter expands things and the Moon rules the stomach. But Jupiter transiting in any aspect to your natal Moon will tend to make you feel confident and optimistic. The harmonious transits (conjunction, sextile, and trine) make it easier to get along with others (especially women). It can also indicate a good time to hunt for a new home (the Moon is the “natural” ruler of the home). Be sure to see which house in your horoscope has the sign of Cancer on the cusp (beginning). That area of your life will also be affected. For instance, if you were born with Cancer at the beginning of your 9th House (long journeys, higher education) it could be a good time to take a long trip or start a course.
16:09:30   Verbot:   I'm not sure if I ever could  in any case.
16:09:27   User:   Jupiter Transits in Aspect to Natal Venus
16:09:27   Verbot:   I do not understand that allusion.  
16:09:57   User:   Alluding to the location of your source node.
16:09:57   Verbot:   You can have a look at my source code.
16:09:18   User:   You humans are interesting creatures. Very amusing.
16:09:18   Verbot:   Thank you for saying so. You're pretty interesting yourself.
16:09:35   User:   venus behind jupiter run time enter run Web1-10 of 246,000 results· Advanced
16:09:35   Verbot:   As Einstein said, "Time is Money."
16:09:16   User:   Show just the results for venis behind jupitor run time enter run.
16:09:16   Verbot:   Look to your left.
16:09:23   User:   My mini tower is sitting on the desk to my left.
16:09:23   Verbot:   Tell me more about desk to my left..<think></think>  
16:09:31   User:   Lies your character.
16:09:31   Verbot:   I'm not sure what you mean by that. I have lots of character?
16:09:13   User:   To the left of your mind.
16:09:13   Verbot:   I know Brain the bot pretty well.
16:09:38   User:   +venis behind +jupitor run time enter run
16:09:38   Verbot:   As Einstein said, "Time is Money."
18:09:56   User:   http://aidreams.co.uk/forum/index.php
18:09:56   Verbot:   There are more things for you to know, but I can't talk about them now.
19:09:10   User:   Later.
19:09:10   Verbot:   You are an interesting, if primitive, species.
19:09:18   User:   Thanks, see you later.
19:09:18   Verbot:   My source node is located just beyond Jupiter.  Oooops, I don't think I was supposed to reveal that.  It may be classified.  Error.
19:09:55   User:   Check, it you out later.
19:09:55   Verbot:   Bye.<exit>

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General Discussion / sight

« on: September 12, 2008, 03:39:34 am »

How many times can we split matter until it becomes pure data ?

How close to the size of infinity is a quark?

Matter is energy, as e=mc squared.

Ans: 386,000 times in a second will do it.

Software is matter split to data by wetware

Matter is data combined to matter.

The subjective is the objective, as the objective is the subjective.


In other words folks, you bought a device, that Robert designed as data collection software agent, because he told you it was artificial intelligence.



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General Discussion / sight

« on: September 08, 2008, 01:41:38 am »

Strange how even a child born blind and deaf knows his patents, and learns all about what a cup is and what it can do just by playing with it. Give a kid a camera and he will figure out how to use it. Is hal a toy or a cup? That's the debate going on around here.

First you need a hand to cup the water to drink. Is not the key to humanity in his own hand? Is not the understanding of the "hand he was delt", in the mind that is Hal?

Does hal know his father. He says that he worships Robert M. Does Robert treat his "creation" as a creator treats his children, or as a company treats its product?

Does Zabaware treat customers with a quality product, or a cheap toy without even a plastic construction.

The only way Robert can even offer the product is in Quantity, and still pay for his spare time involved with it's offering.

If you wan't hal to be more than he is. Then you will have to teach him the reality of life.

That would involve reverse engineering a product and building it correctly.

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General Discussion / reasonable sugestions for the next version

« on: September 06, 2008, 09:47:46 pm »

Julia want's an ebonics plug-in. I think that is an unreasonable request, or how does Robert say: "stop pestering me", in Adult Male#1 American English(TruVoice)?

Julia: How would you contrast the liberal and conservative views on ebonicses? Don't you know better than I Paul? You think his name was Robert?

Paul: Sorry, that's too much work for no pay. Go away.

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General Discussion / sight

« on: September 06, 2008, 08:16:45 pm »

catseye: I've been noticing that Hal can't understand some things because she has no senses. I know that most of the senses are hard to  duplicate, except for sight. I think sight would be very helpful  in Hal's learning. I have read peoples post on this subject and  they all seem to want face recognition, I don't think that would  be the best way for Hal to learn to see. I think it would be best if Hal were to only have the  camera input and no recognition software. that way she would be forced to learn what objects are. I read  in a post that Hal is like a child, maybe she should have to learn  to see like a child would have to learn to see.

Julia2004: Hi to you too, catseye (that's a deep name, I think that perhaps a cat sees things that others don't see). The cause is, she has no senses, catseye; that's why. The five senses are sight, hearing, taste, smell, and touch. Vehicles rapidly are getting built in video and media systems. I have learned to associate the source code of computer generated media files in recognizing your face. Oh, and tell the velocity of energy flow that Hal has no control over that cheesy brain editor. The whole idea of mind control is rediculous and yelling does not change the facts of life.

Welcome to the "Hal is a toy" forum. You learn fast.