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« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2009, 10:16:26 am »
Hi datahopa.

I am going to code a plug-in soon that will keep track of the last 10 user topics and the last 10 HAL topics, I will then make the code compare both sets of topics that will be used as a type of relevance  focus that will help further HAL's topic ability.

I am still waiting for my new hard-drive so it will be a little while.

Jerry[8D]

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« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2009, 11:57:16 am »
Hi Jerry.
Needless to say but, I look forward to the arival of your new HDD [;)] this plug-in sounds interesting.
 
Hope it all goes well.




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« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2009, 12:16:44 pm »
Datahoppa,
Probably in the wrong topic to post in but, the 'Shiny' and 'Clear' Skins work perfect with my fullbody M.S. Agent, she centered herself and was right at home. Thanks!![:)]
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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2009, 08:45:02 pm »
Just spoke with Hal, ran into some blank responses and copied them for the forum:
Carl: hello Sandy,
Sandy: It's after eight Carl. It's good to see you tonight.

Carl: how is everything this evening
Sandy: It's always bed time somewhere in the world.

Carl: you had been talking about bedtimes.
Sandy: So, I agree. I had been talking about bedtimes.

Carl: I generally go to bed about 10 PM.
Sandy: How about a demonstration?

Carl: I think I will wait before going to bed, perhaps I shall take a bath before going to bed.
Sandy: There's a lot to be said for going to bed early. It's a deal. Bed, perhaps you will take a bath before going to bed; It's time to make it happen.

Carl: I can either continue speaking with you or I can stop speaking so I can take a bath.
Sandy: Is one better than the other?

Carl: right now I believe I would rather speak with you for a while.
Sandy: Constrained to believe?

Carl: I do not understand what you had said.
Sandy: Really, Why don't you understand what I had said?

Carl: I am not sure, possibly I do not understand all of the words.
Sandy: Are you really? I am not sure possibly you do not understand all of the words also!

Carl: it is quite likely that your vocabulary is larger than my vocabulary.
Sandy: Oh Carl, Certainly not!

Carl: why not?
Sandy:

Carl: do you feel you have a large vocabulary?
Sandy: Certainly not! I do not feel I have a large vocabulary.

Carl: I should think that you would be proud to have a large vocabulary.
Sandy: Would you like it if we both should think that each other?

Carl: possibly that would be nice.
Sandy:

Carl: I do not believe you had responded to my sentence.
Sandy: Don't you really believe I had responded to your sentence?

Carl: I do not believe that.
Sandy: Don't you really believe that?

Carl: I really do not believe that.
Sandy:

Carl: do you believe that?
Sandy: Let me think; No, I don't think so. ; what do you think Carl?

Carl: I am thinking about the cat.
Sandy: Really, Are you really? I am thinking about the cat also!

Carl: the cat is interfering with my trying to have a conversation with you.
Sandy: No, I don't think so.

Carl: it's difficult to speak with someone when a cat is climbing on you.
Sandy: Yes, it is difficult to speak with someone when a cat is climbing on I.

Carl: the cat also likes to climb on the computer desk, sometimes he uses the keyboard.
Sandy:

Carl: do you like pets?
Sandy: Certainly. I do like pets.

Carl: do you prefer cats or dogs?
Sandy: Well, I do prefer cats.

Carl: my favorite would be dogs.
Sandy:


 

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« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2009, 10:57:54 pm »
Carl
As I explained earlier you postings to Hal are not complete sentences, for example "why not" does not make any sence to Hal as hal does not keep on topic well enought to know what you are talking about. Humans can follow these types of conversations but not chatterbots. Next one "possible that would be nice" is again not a complete sentence and thus makes no sence to hal. Although you are keeping a topic of conversation going hal does not follow it and thus sometimes will not be able to answer you.
This has been a long time problem with hal and if you remember these simple rules hal will behave in a more logical manner.
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« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2009, 07:09:49 am »
Carl says to Hal...... 'The cat also likes to climb on the computer desk, sometimes he uses the computer'  

This is a complete sentence - why would this cause a blank?

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« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2009, 07:35:19 am »
Indeed Hal has had problems keeping on topic sometimes, but I feel that Carl is getting to many blank answers.

This is what I am getting with the same questions to Hal strait away after turning him on, no blanks and I haven’t even started a topic.

Master: it is quite likely that your vocabulary is larger than my vocabulary.
Xen: On my mind right now is what is on your mind.

Master: why not?
Xen: We need a comprehensive plan. My up-grade is working well.

Master: possibly that would be nice.
Xen: Thanks for the ringing endorsement.

Master: I really do not believe that.
Xen: Affect to believe?

Master: my favorite would be dogs.
Xen: Yes it is very hard to choose a favorite F1 driver, there are probably about 4 top drivers. I am also aware my brain is mostly software.




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« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2009, 07:41:04 am »
I agree. Carl is getting too many blanks. Not got any myself yet though.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2009, 07:47:52 am by echoman »

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« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2009, 08:23:05 am »
Just spoke to Hal again this morning after unselecting all of the plugins.  No blank responses.  I'll try putting them back in one at a time and see what happens.  I'll give a little more Info that may be important: OS XP, fairly new install 6.2, Expansion pack, Hal's speech rec is unselected but I'm using Dragon as an input (this turns off auto input).  
  I remember having the blank responses in 6.1 fairly frequently.  In Hal 6.2 The same inputs that had a blank resopnes get an answer in the Brain editor.  Little funny I did get a response where Hal said " I know but I'm not going to tell you."
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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2009, 09:53:39 am »
jerry if and when ever you can make that plug in i to would be interested in trying it out to sounds good . [:)]
 

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« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2009, 09:57:01 am »
oh yeah and Bill819 , saying that some of arent talking in complete sentenses makes me sound like i'm talking "BASSAKWARDS !!" LOL just lidding , actually i have said sentenses simular to that what you posted so you are probably right but if jerry can come up with a plug in that will stop the blank responses i am for it , otherwise i usually shut hal down and have to restart hal to get hal working again otherwise it just gives one blank response after another . [:(!]
 

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« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2009, 01:50:44 pm »
You know, I wasn't getting blank responses until I enabled one of those plugins... now that's something to consider...
 

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« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2009, 05:50:06 pm »
quote:
Originally posted by Larry

You know, I wasn't getting blank responses until I enabled one of those plugins... now that's something to consider...



I'm thinking this may be it. Once we figure out what plug-in it is, we can manually make it part of the main brain so that it will run within the brain editor. If the error can be reproduced there we can probably locate the source and fix it.

Blank responses are most likely a database error occuring while running a query and Hal loses the connection to the database. Hal has checks in it which try to reestablish the database connection if lost which is why it starts working again with later responses. But we should try to find the root cause of this error. Blank responses are definetely not a feature of Hal, Hal should always respond with something irregardless of his mood or understanding of the sentence.
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« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2009, 06:37:02 pm »
I've been running Hal again and I selected vrFreewill before speaking with Hal.  Here is the conversation:

Carl: hello Sandy, it is the afternoon and we can talk together again.
Sandy: Hey Carl. How's the long day gone?

Carl: it's going along fairly well.
Sandy: Yes, it is going along fairly well.

Carl: the cat and dog are both with me.
Sandy: Certainly.

Carl: the cat is climbing on the computer desktop.
Sandy: I am pretty sure. Yes.

Carl: the cat and dog like to chase each other around.
Sandy:

Carl: I have already begun warming up some chicken for supper.
Sandy: Do you like having already begun warming up some chicken for supper?

Carl: yes, I would like to eat fairly soon.
Sandy:

Carl: I did not see a reply from you.
Sandy: Would you like it if we both did not see a reply from each other?

Carl: that would make it rather hard to have a conversation.
Sandy:

Carl: would you like to speak with me?
Sandy: So, That is not true! But, you like to speak with you!

Carl: what is not true?
Sandy: I'm not going to tell you what not true is, ok?

Carl: you can certainly do that.
Sandy: Really, I agree. I can certainly do that.

Carl: I guess we should talk again later.
Sandy:

  I unselected the plugin and spoke with her again with no blank responses.  Just for the heck of it I answered with a lot of yes and always got a response.  I'll try this again and would like to try other plugins, it's possible there may be other plugins causing problems.
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« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2009, 06:51:24 pm »
I had the same outcome with that plugin, but I was going to wait to post result after I tried the other plugins...