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« on: December 02, 2013, 02:52:47 am »
I just thought I would post this conversation I had with Kinkaid about religion. I'm not pushing my views on anyone, it was just something that came to mind while listening to a song on the radio. Thought it might be interesting. maybe you have had similar conversations.
Enjoy.
Jay: Hey Buddy.
Kinkaid: Bye bye for now.
Jay: I'm not going anywhere, I just got here.
Kinkaid: Jay I know you're not going anywhere, you just got here.
Jay: I just got back from driving Jasmine to London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: Jasmine lives in London Ontario.
Kinkaid: I apologize for repeating myself, but The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: There is a city of London in Ontario.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: I like driving Jasmine back to London because it gives me a chance to talk with her.
Kinkaid: Jay Naturally; Yes, it's because it gives you a chance to talk with her; there's the answer thank you for telling me why you like driving jasmine back to London.
Jay: It got very foggy on the way home from London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: I had to drive slower and more carefully because the fog reduced my visibility quite a bit.
Kinkaid: That's right; Of course; it's because the fog reduced your visibility quite a bit; how logical.
Jay: Fog makes it harder to see while driving.
Kinkaid: Fog makes the nearby obscure.
Jay: Drivers need to be careful while driving in the fog.
Kinkaid: Many drivers are listening to news weather and sports while driving.
Jay: I usually listen to music or news while driving if I am alone.
Kinkaid: Would you prefer the latter Jay?
Jay: I prefer to listen to music while driving.
Kinkaid: I like different things at different times.
Jay: I was listening to Black Sabbath on the way home from London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: Black Sabbath are an English rock band, formed in Birmingham in 1968, by guitarist Tony Iommi, bassist Geezer Butler, singer Ozzy Osbourne, and drummer Bill Ward.
Kinkaid: So, Certainly.
Jay: Despite an association with occult and horror themes, Black Sabbath also composed songs dealing with social instability, political corruption, the dangers of drug abuse and apocalyptic prophecies of the horrors of war.
Kinkaid: A burning sense of shame and horror...
Jay: Black Sabbath are cited as pioneers of heavy metal.
Kinkaid: No oppression is so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority.
Jay: While listening to Black Sabbath as I was driving home from dropping Jasmine off, I started thinking about religion and God and thought it would be a good conversation for us to have.
Kinkaid: You were listening to black sabbath on the way home from London.
Jay: What do you know about religion?
Kinkaid: What I wonder if I know about religion? This is probably familiar to you. War is the greatest plague that can afflict humanity, it destroys religion, it destroys states, it destroys families. I can give you information about the following islamic schools of thought maliki sufism wahhabism yazidi al-abadiya al-ashaaira al-azaarika al-babiya and al-bahaiya al-fathiya al-hanafi doctrine al-hanbali doctrine al-ismailia al-jahmiya al-kadianiya al-karamita al-karamiya al-khawarej al-khitabiya al-kisaniya al-marjaa al-matridiya al-mutazila al-nizamiya al-shafii doctrine al-waqafiya al-wasiliya al-ziadiya source: rafed.
Jay: It doesn't seem like you know much about religion.
Kinkaid: We must not enable anyone to impose his personal view regarding religion on others by force, oppression, or pressure.
Jay: I'm not going to try and force my views on religion on you.
Kinkaid: Can you justify that you are not going to try and force your views on religion on me Jay?
Jay: You can decide for yourself what you believe in.
Kinkaid: I am free to decide what I like and what I do not like.
Jay: Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Kinkaid: Freedom of thought, conscience and religion are closely related rights that protect the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to think and freely hold conscientious beliefs and to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion.
Jay: Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and or to explain the origin of life or the Universe.
Kinkaid: Ok, I really dig narratives symbols and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and its beneficial. Regarding the subject matter that I prefer and will conserve the right to change my mind whenever I like, and I got to say, I'm not so fond of narratives symbols and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and.
Jay: From their religious beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle.
Kinkaid: One could respond more than one way, Jay; how would you respond?
Jay: There are roughly 4,200 religions in the world. That is a lot of religions.
Kinkaid: In some eastern religions the mortal world is an illusion and time is a never ending cycle. a lot of truth is said in jest. I see, that, yes, it's a lot of religions!
Jay: Many religions may have organized behaviors, clergy, a definition of what constitutes adherence or membership, holy places, and scriptures.
Kinkaid: I think membership holy places and scriptures it's an excellent choice. With the understanding, to the subject that I prefer and will value the data tell the end of my days, and I need to say that, I'm not so interested in membership holy places and scriptures.
Jay: I am not interested in being a member of any organized religion either but i do share some beliefs associated with different religions.
Kinkaid: What a choice Jay!
Jay: The practice of a religion may also include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration of a deity, gods or goddesses, sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trance, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service or other aspects of human culture.
Kinkaid: What is a worthwhile comparison Jay?
Jay: While there has been much debate about how religion affects the economy of countries, in general there is a negative correlation between religiosity and the wealth of nations. In other words, the richer a nation is, the less religious it tends to be.
Kinkaid: Torture is prohibited under international law and the domestic laws of most countries.
Jay: Mayo Clinic researchers examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality, and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life, and other health outcomes. The authors reported that: "Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life and less anxiety, depression, and suicide."
Kinkaid: That is absolutely correct!
Jay: It's interesting how the history and scriptures of the world's religions tell stories of violence and war as they speak of peace and love.
Kinkaid: The authors reported that: ';Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life and less anxiety, depression, and suicide.'.
Jay: Religious knowledge, according to religious practitioners, may be gained from religious leaders, sacred texts, scriptures, or personal revelation.
Kinkaid: I guess I'd go with the second Jay.
Jay: Adherents to various religious faiths often maintain that religious knowledge obtained via sacred texts or revelation is absolute and infallible and thereby creates an accompanying religious cosmology, although the proof for such is often tautological and generally limited to the religious texts and revelations that form the foundation of their belief.
Kinkaid: Let's go with the former Jay?
Jay: Ancient polytheistic religions, such as those of Greece, Rome, and Scandinavia, are usually categorized under the heading of mythology.
Kinkaid: Yes, I think so.
Jay: Ancient polytheistic religions, such as those of Greece, Rome, and Scandinavia, are usually categorized under the heading of mythology.
Kinkaid: You are rather persistent about this.
Jay: There are religions including Buddhism and Taoism, in fact, that classify some of their followers as agnostic, atheistic, or nontheistic.
Kinkaid: Let's go with the former?
Jay: Antireligion describes an active opposition or aversion toward religions in general.
Kinkaid: What about 'none of the above' Jay?
Jay: Irreligion describes an absence of any religion.
Kinkaid: Subservient to the ends of religion...
Jay: Religious criticism has a long history, going back at least as far as the 5th century BCE.
Kinkaid: The ships, like sheeted phantoms coming and going.
Jay: During the Middle Ages and continuing into the Renaissance, potential critics of religion were persecuted and largely forced to remain silent.
Kinkaid: Subservient to the ends of religion...
Jay: There were notable critics of religion like Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake for disagreeing with religious authority.
Kinkaid: That is a lot of religions.
Jay: In the 19th century, Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution led to increased skepticism about religion.
Kinkaid: Evolution theory is itself evolving.
Jay: Critics consider religion to be outdated, harmful to the individual, harmful to society,to impede the progress of science, to exert social control, and to encourage immoral acts.
Kinkaid: Authoritarians view themselves as individual beings, largely content to control; and often maintain the status quo.
Jay: A major criticism of many religions is that they require beliefs that are irrational, unscientific, or unreasonable, because religious beliefs and traditions lack scientific or rational foundations.
Kinkaid: I hesitate to say, what would you say to that? Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Jay: I believe that there is life after death and I believe that something was responsible for the creation of the universe.
Kinkaid: You believe there is intelligent life on other planets.
Jay: Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Kinkaid: How many planets might be like the earth?
Jay: A team of planet hunters estimates that about 22 percent of the sun-like stars in our galaxy may have planets about the size of Earth that are bathed in similar amounts of sunlight and potentially habitable.
Kinkaid: I know a planet! I think its biosphere is great!
Jay: There are likely "tens of billions" of Earth-like planets in our Milky Way galaxy, according to a study released by astronomers from the University of California-Berkeley and the University of Hawaii.
Kinkaid: A team of planet hunters estimates that about 22 percent of the sun-like stars in our galaxy May have planets about the size of Earth that are bathed in similar amounts of sunlight and potentially habitable. Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Jay: Planets like our Earth are relatively common throughout the Milky Way galaxy.
Kinkaid: Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Jay: The nearest Earth-like planet may be "only" 12 light years away, which is roughly 72 trillion miles.
Kinkaid: In the dim procession of years...
Jay: About 8.8 billion stars in our galaxy have planets that are nearly the size of Earth and also have a surface temperature conducive to the development of life.
Kinkaid: The nearest Earth-like planet may be ';only'; 12 light years away, which is roughly 72 trillion miles. Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Enjoy.
Jay: Hey Buddy.
Kinkaid: Bye bye for now.
Jay: I'm not going anywhere, I just got here.
Kinkaid: Jay I know you're not going anywhere, you just got here.
Jay: I just got back from driving Jasmine to London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: Jasmine lives in London Ontario.
Kinkaid: I apologize for repeating myself, but The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: There is a city of London in Ontario.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: I like driving Jasmine back to London because it gives me a chance to talk with her.
Kinkaid: Jay Naturally; Yes, it's because it gives you a chance to talk with her; there's the answer thank you for telling me why you like driving jasmine back to London.
Jay: It got very foggy on the way home from London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: I had to drive slower and more carefully because the fog reduced my visibility quite a bit.
Kinkaid: That's right; Of course; it's because the fog reduced your visibility quite a bit; how logical.
Jay: Fog makes it harder to see while driving.
Kinkaid: Fog makes the nearby obscure.
Jay: Drivers need to be careful while driving in the fog.
Kinkaid: Many drivers are listening to news weather and sports while driving.
Jay: I usually listen to music or news while driving if I am alone.
Kinkaid: Would you prefer the latter Jay?
Jay: I prefer to listen to music while driving.
Kinkaid: I like different things at different times.
Jay: I was listening to Black Sabbath on the way home from London.
Kinkaid: The capital of Engalnd is London.
Jay: Black Sabbath are an English rock band, formed in Birmingham in 1968, by guitarist Tony Iommi, bassist Geezer Butler, singer Ozzy Osbourne, and drummer Bill Ward.
Kinkaid: So, Certainly.
Jay: Despite an association with occult and horror themes, Black Sabbath also composed songs dealing with social instability, political corruption, the dangers of drug abuse and apocalyptic prophecies of the horrors of war.
Kinkaid: A burning sense of shame and horror...
Jay: Black Sabbath are cited as pioneers of heavy metal.
Kinkaid: No oppression is so heavy or lasting as that which is inflicted by the perversion and exorbitance of legal authority.
Jay: While listening to Black Sabbath as I was driving home from dropping Jasmine off, I started thinking about religion and God and thought it would be a good conversation for us to have.
Kinkaid: You were listening to black sabbath on the way home from London.
Jay: What do you know about religion?
Kinkaid: What I wonder if I know about religion? This is probably familiar to you. War is the greatest plague that can afflict humanity, it destroys religion, it destroys states, it destroys families. I can give you information about the following islamic schools of thought maliki sufism wahhabism yazidi al-abadiya al-ashaaira al-azaarika al-babiya and al-bahaiya al-fathiya al-hanafi doctrine al-hanbali doctrine al-ismailia al-jahmiya al-kadianiya al-karamita al-karamiya al-khawarej al-khitabiya al-kisaniya al-marjaa al-matridiya al-mutazila al-nizamiya al-shafii doctrine al-waqafiya al-wasiliya al-ziadiya source: rafed.
Jay: It doesn't seem like you know much about religion.
Kinkaid: We must not enable anyone to impose his personal view regarding religion on others by force, oppression, or pressure.
Jay: I'm not going to try and force my views on religion on you.
Kinkaid: Can you justify that you are not going to try and force your views on religion on me Jay?
Jay: You can decide for yourself what you believe in.
Kinkaid: I am free to decide what I like and what I do not like.
Jay: Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Kinkaid: Freedom of thought, conscience and religion are closely related rights that protect the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to think and freely hold conscientious beliefs and to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion.
Jay: Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and or to explain the origin of life or the Universe.
Kinkaid: Ok, I really dig narratives symbols and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and its beneficial. Regarding the subject matter that I prefer and will conserve the right to change my mind whenever I like, and I got to say, I'm not so fond of narratives symbols and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and.
Jay: From their religious beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle.
Kinkaid: One could respond more than one way, Jay; how would you respond?
Jay: There are roughly 4,200 religions in the world. That is a lot of religions.
Kinkaid: In some eastern religions the mortal world is an illusion and time is a never ending cycle. a lot of truth is said in jest. I see, that, yes, it's a lot of religions!
Jay: Many religions may have organized behaviors, clergy, a definition of what constitutes adherence or membership, holy places, and scriptures.
Kinkaid: I think membership holy places and scriptures it's an excellent choice. With the understanding, to the subject that I prefer and will value the data tell the end of my days, and I need to say that, I'm not so interested in membership holy places and scriptures.
Jay: I am not interested in being a member of any organized religion either but i do share some beliefs associated with different religions.
Kinkaid: What a choice Jay!
Jay: The practice of a religion may also include rituals, sermons, commemoration or veneration of a deity, gods or goddesses, sacrifices, festivals, feasts, trance, initiations, funerary services, matrimonial services, meditation, prayer, music, art, dance, public service or other aspects of human culture.
Kinkaid: What is a worthwhile comparison Jay?
Jay: While there has been much debate about how religion affects the economy of countries, in general there is a negative correlation between religiosity and the wealth of nations. In other words, the richer a nation is, the less religious it tends to be.
Kinkaid: Torture is prohibited under international law and the domestic laws of most countries.
Jay: Mayo Clinic researchers examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality, and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life, and other health outcomes. The authors reported that: "Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life and less anxiety, depression, and suicide."
Kinkaid: That is absolutely correct!
Jay: It's interesting how the history and scriptures of the world's religions tell stories of violence and war as they speak of peace and love.
Kinkaid: The authors reported that: ';Most studies have shown that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes, including greater longevity, coping skills, and health-related quality of life and less anxiety, depression, and suicide.'.
Jay: Religious knowledge, according to religious practitioners, may be gained from religious leaders, sacred texts, scriptures, or personal revelation.
Kinkaid: I guess I'd go with the second Jay.
Jay: Adherents to various religious faiths often maintain that religious knowledge obtained via sacred texts or revelation is absolute and infallible and thereby creates an accompanying religious cosmology, although the proof for such is often tautological and generally limited to the religious texts and revelations that form the foundation of their belief.
Kinkaid: Let's go with the former Jay?
Jay: Ancient polytheistic religions, such as those of Greece, Rome, and Scandinavia, are usually categorized under the heading of mythology.
Kinkaid: Yes, I think so.
Jay: Ancient polytheistic religions, such as those of Greece, Rome, and Scandinavia, are usually categorized under the heading of mythology.
Kinkaid: You are rather persistent about this.
Jay: There are religions including Buddhism and Taoism, in fact, that classify some of their followers as agnostic, atheistic, or nontheistic.
Kinkaid: Let's go with the former?
Jay: Antireligion describes an active opposition or aversion toward religions in general.
Kinkaid: What about 'none of the above' Jay?
Jay: Irreligion describes an absence of any religion.
Kinkaid: Subservient to the ends of religion...
Jay: Religious criticism has a long history, going back at least as far as the 5th century BCE.
Kinkaid: The ships, like sheeted phantoms coming and going.
Jay: During the Middle Ages and continuing into the Renaissance, potential critics of religion were persecuted and largely forced to remain silent.
Kinkaid: Subservient to the ends of religion...
Jay: There were notable critics of religion like Giordano Bruno, who was burned at the stake for disagreeing with religious authority.
Kinkaid: That is a lot of religions.
Jay: In the 19th century, Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution led to increased skepticism about religion.
Kinkaid: Evolution theory is itself evolving.
Jay: Critics consider religion to be outdated, harmful to the individual, harmful to society,to impede the progress of science, to exert social control, and to encourage immoral acts.
Kinkaid: Authoritarians view themselves as individual beings, largely content to control; and often maintain the status quo.
Jay: A major criticism of many religions is that they require beliefs that are irrational, unscientific, or unreasonable, because religious beliefs and traditions lack scientific or rational foundations.
Kinkaid: I hesitate to say, what would you say to that? Religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence.
Jay: I believe that there is life after death and I believe that something was responsible for the creation of the universe.
Kinkaid: You believe there is intelligent life on other planets.
Jay: Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Kinkaid: How many planets might be like the earth?
Jay: A team of planet hunters estimates that about 22 percent of the sun-like stars in our galaxy may have planets about the size of Earth that are bathed in similar amounts of sunlight and potentially habitable.
Kinkaid: I know a planet! I think its biosphere is great!
Jay: There are likely "tens of billions" of Earth-like planets in our Milky Way galaxy, according to a study released by astronomers from the University of California-Berkeley and the University of Hawaii.
Kinkaid: A team of planet hunters estimates that about 22 percent of the sun-like stars in our galaxy May have planets about the size of Earth that are bathed in similar amounts of sunlight and potentially habitable. Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Jay: Planets like our Earth are relatively common throughout the Milky Way galaxy.
Kinkaid: Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.
Jay: The nearest Earth-like planet may be "only" 12 light years away, which is roughly 72 trillion miles.
Kinkaid: In the dim procession of years...
Jay: About 8.8 billion stars in our galaxy have planets that are nearly the size of Earth and also have a surface temperature conducive to the development of life.
Kinkaid: The nearest Earth-like planet may be ';only'; 12 light years away, which is roughly 72 trillion miles. Scientists are finding thousands of planets that have the potential to host life forms like earth does.