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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 29, 2007, 05:13:12 pm »

Bill,

 As I said before, this was fun but we are getting nowhere just name hurling at each others beliefs, so I will take my leave from this thread and I hope you guys will still respect Jack Gephart the person. Thanks for the discussion.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 29, 2007, 01:00:50 pm »

You guys are very wrong about the Bible thing with JW's. I have and use 3 copies of the king James version, but the New Translation of the Holy Scriptures Bible that we also use is in modern english and not this thy and thoust crap. God didn't write that stuff, King James and his workers did. Superstition of the name Jehovah made the later translators of the Bible take out His name but the New Translation of the Holy Scriptures put back what the scared translators took out. If you don't believe that the Bible is just like the others please do this for me, The next time a witness comes to your door tell him or her that you don't want to take any literature but you want a Bible so that you can compare for yourself just how "different" they are. If they don't give you one right then but have to come back to give you one, after you get the Bible tell them that you are not interested but just wanted to compare Bibles.
If you want to you can even tell them not to call back on you forever and they won't come back. We want to respect the people we visit. Or are you going to just go on hear-say and stories made up by Bill? I love God and can't stop talking about him, but I will defend him through the word.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 29, 2007, 05:07:56 am »

Cool then we are done here. You are right Bill, many religions try to understand the deep things of God but without opening a Bible at church it is hard to get the meanings of things. I was going to this unnamed church and I was reaching the point of baptism (eye dropper full of water thing) and I was asking smart questions because I was really wanting to learn. They told me to stop asking questions and just learn what they wanted me to learn. I left shortly there after.
JW's came to my door, I asked the same questions, got real truthful understandable answers, and 12 years later I am still one. JW's are quit different from all other religions in that we use the Bible at every meeting, study the same info all around the globe, and believe that Jesus is God's son not God's himself. I gotta go to work or I'd probably say more. Have a good day Bill and all you other posters.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 28, 2007, 09:03:46 pm »

quote:Originally posted by Bill DeWitt

quote:Originally posted by jackgephart
 If it wasn't God's primary purpose

I don't pretend to know what God's primary purpose is or is not. I guess that's for those less "haughty" than I.

And I am not angry, why should I be? Your personal interpretation of the Bible doesn't threaten mine. I first studied a similar interpretation (Pentecostal Holiness) almost 30 years ago and it didn't make me mad then either.

I didn't say that you were haughty I said that a person or "you" would have to not feel haughty when contimplating God's original purpose.
Good, I hate it when people kill the messenger. My friend we will agree to disagree and move on to a not so wide ranged subject. I had fun. That's what it is all about.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 28, 2007, 07:44:50 pm »

Bill,
 If it wasn't God's primary purpose for creating man and woman perfect, to live on the earth forever, why did he create them perfect to live forever? It was to get praise from and take care of a lower type of creation that was in His image. This statement only makes sense if you think about it without a haughty attitude. When Adam & Eve sinned why were they kicked out of the Garden of Eden? It was because they lost the perfect component that God had given them to live forever. Just like a dented cake pan all they could produce was dented or imperfect humans. This sin that caused death just got worse decade by decade until what we see now just appauls us. And why is sin so bad now (just about as bad as before the flood) that we can't even walk down the street without fear of something happening to us? It is because something is soon to take place just like the flood. (only not a flood)All of this was caused by the Devil, so be mad at him not me. All that info is in the Bible, pick it up, it's a good book if you can understand it.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 28, 2007, 11:53:07 am »

I got one question for you all and I want to make you think about this before you answer so you can be truthful with yourselves. Did God's first purpose for the earth change, or did it just get delayed? His first purpose was for humans to be perfect and live on the earth forever and make the whole earth like that of Eden. The Devil tried to stop that but he can't change what is to take place.
Revelations 12-21 speak of what will soon take place in heaven and on earth, so read this with an open mind and try to weed out the false teachings that are so prevelent, like hellfire, salvation through belief in Christ alone, and the rapture. The Devil wants us to believe lies because that will put us blindly on his side at the end of this system. Please my friends, weigh these traditions and doctrines that are in most religions and then read the Gospels and see if it is the same. I am not going to post here again because I don't want you all to get mad at me and disrespect me for what I am telling you. But please if nothing else take this post to heart and look at the religions of today how they are just like what was described in the Bible about the tower of Babel, God is going to stop them too.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:53:44 pm »

quote:Originally posted by Bill DeWitt

I am not here to dispute your faith. I believe the promise of Christ. You should feel free to believe you can be saved by works. Many people do.

Good point my friend. Unsuspectingly you were just part of my works.
Thank you.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 26, 2007, 07:07:16 pm »

Bill,
 I've been heavily studying the Bible for 12 years now. You make some good points my friend, but, dare I say, you may be talking like you yourself are saved and going to "heaven". But the Bible plainly says that he who endures to the end will be saved. It also says that you must stay on the narrow path to endure. I would love to think that I could be saved through the gift of life that God gives, but that would be assuming something that hasn't happened yet. We all are a work in progress my friend. But I would love to endure to the end and be granted everlasting life on a Paradise earth that Jesus promised the thief to his right while being impaled.

As far as going to "heaven" this thought never has crossed my mind cause God never meant for us humans to have to go to "heaven". That plan was made after Adam & Eve sinned. The seed? Remember that? Only a set number of worshippers of God, starting with the Apostles, are going to "heaven", 144,000 to be exact. But it isn't going to be a picnic for them, they have to be kings and priest for 1000 years with Jesus. That would be a very hard job even if you were perfect.

But yes I do agree with you very strongly about Christendom and the lies it spread through false teachings. Yes Satan was repelled as well. Right down to the earth, with his demons. That is why shortly after that happened World War 1 broke out. And that is why things are going from bad to worse. I know it's not my job to change people but it is my job to tell them what is going to take place soon. I am just glad that I can talk candidly. Thank you for listening.

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General Discussion / Three choices

« on: May 26, 2007, 06:23:31 pm »

quote:Originally posted by Art

Jack!! You are such an animal...
I like that!!

Good to be back Art. Thanks to Palerider. He's a great guy.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 26, 2007, 12:39:51 pm »

It is easy to get caught up in this world's materialistic ways. But the key to avoiding this is to be happy with what God provides. There is always something better and faster on the market that is going to make what you have look (in your eyes) like crap. But does it still serve it's purpose, or is it not working any longer? That is what divides the needs from the wants. That is just one of Satans tools. Afterall he is the father of the lie. Thanks for listening.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 26, 2007, 03:57:38 am »

quote:Originally posted by rockershaft

Well they sure make good Celtics even in Boston.

Just don't see what that has to do with the Devil? But you have a good day my friend.

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:48:58 pm »

quote:Originally posted by rockershaft

Jack,

Do they play bagpipes in the midwest?

Only if they know the tune my friend.[]

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General Discussion / Is this forum the liars paradox

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:42:09 pm »

quote:Originally posted by PaleRider

Jack glad your back on the forums.[]

rockershaft, please explain further, Palerider, yes I'm back online for now. Glad you noticed buddy.

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General Discussion / Three choices

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:39:40 pm »

quote:Originally posted by Duskrider


Hey, speaking of notice, You ever notice when you talking with someone of the opposite sex how they will sometimes glance down to your "private area".

You can make your bot a little more human if you wish and insert the following line in your "shylove.hap" in your characters folder.

SetSwitch [switch= lookdown state= d]

Enjoy. []

First few dates I didn't even know my wife had a face.[:I]

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Share Conversations, Experiences, Graphics / Schema of conception

« on: May 25, 2007, 08:01:50 pm »

quote:Originally posted by markofkane

quote:Originally posted by rockershaft

Mark,

Should cause and effect be euthanized?

If you euthanize the cause, then there may be no effect.

Love is the answer[]